>Sex before marriage is degenerate
>Sex as a casual activity or a consumer product is disgusting
>Gays are mentally ill evolutionary mutations
>The success of a society is directly related to the chastity and modesty practiced or enforced by its women
>men must be strong, women must be modest
And thats why you are most likely still a virgin
I agree with all of those, my man.
>>27263713
Found the assblasted roastie lmao
>>27263687
desu I completely agree
also
>sex is the most intimate thing a couple can do is reserved solely for a man and his wife
>>27263687
>sex drives society
>women are the muses, men are the hands
>if men do not have access to sex and love by becoming successful, there is no motivation to become successful
>society is slowly driving itself into the fucking dirt and men are being taken advantage of
We can't keep going like this, there's a point where it all goes to shit.
Roflmao smells like virgins here
not OP, but yeah, that's why i'm a virgin. i was raised by the cult of Jehovah's Witnesses and you go to hell if you have sex at all.
then later on they change it when you get older and say, "oh you can have sex when you're married".
it took years for me, i can't even imagine how long it takes for people who leave the religion in adulthood.
>>27263713
using virgin as an insult is a weapon of the media to destroy western youth and familial stability.
Into the trash you go, degenerate genetic filth.
>>27263713
>The reason you're a virgin is because you're waiting till marriage to have sex
Is that supposed to insult OP or anyone with that view?
The pendulum is swinging back. We will have our nuclear families with virgin brides again. Roast beef and marxists will be defeated.
if i'm going to be honest, i don't really care about anything other than casual sex and one night stands and shit like that
i don't care about sex before marriage, as long as it's with your bf/gf. outside of that, i find casual sex and especially one night stands absolutely disgusting and completely degenerate.
don't really care about anything other than that.
>>27263799
>ass mad incels becoming prudes because they can't get any
>>27263687
>Sex is unnecessary, yet it is the core of western soceity.
>One must conquer his own need for sex in order to become genuinely free.
>Telling someone that you have overcame your need for sex will probably result in disbelief or laughter even if it's true.
>>27263862
The women in your picture is guaranteed a slut anon
If you actually believed any of that you wouldn't be on this disgusting imageboard.
Sex is a good thing and people should have it. Sometimes it can be meaningless, and sometimes it can be really intimate and vulnerable and special. The meaningfulness of sex isn't a quantity that necessarily diminishes in value the more you have it. Just depends on the circumstances.
The more casual you want to be about it, the more responsible and careful you have to be. Fucking around a lot and not using protection or regularly getting tested is immoral.
Hookers are just fine, as long as they're in that profession on their own terms.
It's ok to be a slut (again, if you're responsible about it) and it's ok to be a virgin.
I love you.
>>27263968
why? because she's beautiful?
stunning Nationalist Christian women do exist, especially in eastern Europe. The backlash against the left in the continent is also increasing the odds of returning to the ideal structure.
>>27264002
People like you deserve to be hanged
>>27264002
Same guy; actually, I'm gonna qualify my statement that "sex is a good thing and people should have it". Abstaining from sex can also be a good thing, if you find that to be fulfilling and meaningful to you.
>>27263687
I would give a shit if I was active.
>there is nothing wrong with casual sex
>dont marry a virgin since you don't know what she likes or how often
>women only get turned on by dominant men.
>the thicker the dick the better the sex
>>27264030
I hope you find a way to be happier than you seem to be right now.
>>27264002
>The meaningfulness of sex isn't a quantity that necessarily diminishes in value the more you have it.
>depression
>divorce rates
>single motherhood
>lower birthrates in nations with these statistics
>b-but I like the warm tingly sloshy feeling
fuck off from civilization you impulsive animal
>>27263687
your vies on sex?
just don't be a slut about it.
>Foreplay starts outside the bedroom.
>Casual sex is OK. Not for me but OK.
>Sex takes up way too much of our society.
>Virginity is nothing sacred.
>Size matters.
OP, but what about masturbation for males and females? Is that degenerative too?
>>27264024
>especially in eastern Europe
Top kek go look at the abortion rates in Eastern Europe. The sheer amount means that your nationalist would need to getting them too
>>27264183
>Is that degenerative too?
Yes
>>27264083
countries with higher birthrates are all monogamous and they have less sex?
>depression
meme
>divorce rates
legal and religious issue, has nothing to do with sexuality. divorce rates are rising even though people in the 70s and 80s were far more promiscuous.
the only problems correlating with "more sex" are more sexually transmitted disease and more time spent not doing something else. if you noticed that the same people that can hold stable relationships usually have fewer partners over time, congratulations you can do basic math. but it's also a meaningless observation when you consider that money and education are much stronger indicators, and people change over time in any case.
>>27264183
masturbation is immoral.
>>27264183
Pornography and excessive masturbation distorts sexuality and weakens the will of man
It is extremely degenerate
>>27264238
>and people change over time in any case.
you're a fembot arent you
>>27264083
There are definitely bad ways and bad reasons to be promiscuous. But I submit that promiscuity itself isn't to blame.
Lemme make an analogy, and up front I'll admit it's not a one-to-one comparison, but bear with me: food is a good thing. We all agree on that. Even if we didn't need to eat to survive, we'd all still agree that it's enjoyable and worthwhile. There's still tons of problems associated with food consumption though; emotional issues can lead to over-eating, leading to obesity, disesase, depression, social ostracism, etc. Food sources for an imbalanced diet (as in America) can lead to ecological devastation. Demand for cheap and varied food in all seasons creates demand for inhumane labor overseas. All these problems would be fixed if we'd just stop eating food (again, in a hypothetical world where it's not necessary).
But food is still good, and it's still totally possible to eat it in a way that avoids all these problems. Sex outside of marriage is the same way.
>>27264024
>white women ever not being whores
>>27264310
back to the jungle or desert, shitskin. shoo shoo
>Sometimes sex scenes turn up when I'm writing something
>They're always completely unromantic, even between characters I feel have chemistry.
>I can only describe it mechanically, with no kind of feeling behind it.
>If the male is initiating, then it's either just him letting off steam or just going through the motions of what a normal relationship is like.
>If a woman is initiating, she's either trying to manipulate her partner or again, going through the motions.
>I was doing this before I even saw 4chan, let alone /r9k/
>I'm not a virgin either, I know what sex is like, but on a base level I'm somewhat put off by itonly exception is 2D, then I'm fine.
I think I'm just fucked in the head.
>>27264324
>Implying I'm not white
>Implying the white race can ever be saved from itself
Stay delusional cuck
>>27263687
>Sex as a casual activity or a consumer product is disgusting
meh I'm not in agreement since a monogamous couple can has sex often and cleanly.
>The success of a society
Means different things in different societies but bastard is an grave insult in many societies for a reason. That reason is it implies the father was a coward and is not interested in a family. And like father like son, so.
>men must be strong, women must be modest
Women will do what they will and try to increase the're social value. But I agree men must be strong for a society to stay intact since women's true nature to be submissive and to compromise on almost anything to avoid conflict with a stronger force. Men are also just as rarely inclined to plan for and wage warfare but since men have a lineage and hard earned resources to protect; they take the burden as a necessity.
>>27264287
no.
>never witnessing someone change their mind
>>27263687
as an antinatalist I find sex pretty insidious and I have stopped fapping and acknowledging my own sexuality for that reason.
>>27264421
you should just say "feminist"
>>27264421
>antinatalist
you're worse
if you're a woman you're mentally ill. If you're a man you're a weak omega. Bear offspring; preserve your people and family lineage.
I agree with OP.
But listen to me faggots. I met a girl on a german tinder app. I know this condradicts itself, but I wanted to try it out once in my life. So this girl gave me her number, we talked a bit and she wants to get fucked. Pretty hard. Told me what she wants me to do and what she is willing to do. She looks pretty hot to be honest. If I think about it, I have a hard time resisting this offer. Wanting to fuck her brains out.
But on the other hand, that is pretty fucking degenerate. And I don't want to be a degenerate.
I just don't know what to do. Should I just fuck her and give a shit about anything or should I stay strong and not do such a degenerate thing?
>>27264780
Don't do it you weak cuck
Save it for your wife
>>27264828
I'm not a virgin though. Had sex once.
>>27264881
Don't make yourself even more shit anon
>>27264780
If this chastity thing actually helps you out and makes you feel better about yourself, then stick to it. But if it's just some bullshit philosophy you picked up on /r9k/ out of anger towards normies and it's making you miserable, then go get yer dick wet.
Am quite happy enough fapping and too lazy to bother to seek it out.
>>27264370
>robots
>change
Pick one
They long for change, but are too lazy and set in their ways to try.
Why would I have a view on something I've never experienced.
>>27263687
>I don't care what sex other people have just don't tell me that you have it
>get your gay sex out of my face
>get your sexed up advertising out of my face
>get your yoga pants out of my face
>get your slutty attitude out of my face
>stop making me a freak for not being that into it with strangers or anyone who is not my wife really
>i think it's the best with someone you love, aside from that I don't see the point, buy a fleshlight/dildo
>>27265066
By all means, I don't belief in that chastity thing like "staying pure for your perfect wife later on". But you see, my situation just is pretty degenerate after all. I think you know that yourself.
It's more like that I can't decide if I want to have such an experience once in my life or stay strong to my 'beliefs'. And that's the point. I don't really know if those beliefs really are me. But I appreciate those and would like to be like people living after those beliefs.
But on the other side, I think I want to experience the normie life just once in my life. Just to get the experience and know even better after it, that it's not for me. Also, the sexual urge man. That girl looks pretty hot and is even willing to swallow. Also pretty scared tbqh. Would be my second time sex. Don't know if I can reach her expectations.
I just don't know.
ITT: christiancucks whine about all the sex they're not having
>>27265409
Unless a situation has, like, a clear ethical answer, then I say you should prefer gaining new experiences and perspectives as opposed to calcifying yourself within your convictions. There's always so much more of life to learn, and so much less objective truth to be convinced of.
>>27265532
I guess you're right. Even my friend told me I should do it. He said I should get the experience. Then I can see if it suits or me not. Nothing wrong with that. He reminded me of the saying 'nothing comes close to learning from experience'.
So yea, I guess I'll do it.
Thanks anon, you actually made me feel a little better about myself now. Even if you said nothing new really.
>>27263687
>tfw anime messed up my views of love and sex
>>27263687
How do I find a woman who thinks like this
>>27265664
Strong religious families. Like, really strong.
Muslims. But that's another thing. Muslim women aren't degenerate because they are killed if they try something degenerate.
>>27265651
Have a good time, anon.
>Sex is just 2 or more people jerking each other off
>If you both haven't ejaculated at least once by the end of it you're doing it wrong
>never go ass to mouth if it's spontaneous sex. that's how you get pink eye
>>27265658
>start reading http://exhentai.org/g/907846/2a17b0929b/
>hate it because it's not real, it's just a super power making girls fall for him
>other doujins and shit are just people being in "love" but all they do is fuck each other and don't hang out or are even friends with each other really
>>27265651
>>27264780
giving in to the temptation of flesh makes you a weak willed man. Sexual "experience" makes you another cock in a whore. You'll become jaded and it removes the opportunity to have fun figuring it out with your wife.
Fuck you and your puritan practice.
Just because your mom was a bitch growing up and because you have had no luck with women you don't get a free pass to shitpost about condemning half of the human population.
>>27265732
Will think of you when I blow my loads into that girl.
>>27265792
>no arguments, just uninformed vague insults from what your idea of the other person is like
it's almost as if you're an idiot
please let me find a nationalist virgin gf before I'm 30
>Humans as a species fuck, and fuck way too often, which is why STDs were put into place in nature.
>Sex is way too taboo, yet not taboo enough to keep it interesting and normies to supply money for condoms and be guinea pigs for contraceptive pills.
>No such thing as a virgin, you can't tell the difference unless someone is truly sexually frustrated
>Western culture, especially women can't make up their mind about exposing their bodies, they want to feel empowered and free to wear what they want, but get upset when a person of fiction shows too much and they want to shut it down
>Sex controls everything you do, from the money you make, to the hobbies you enjoy, to the clothes you wear, it's all somehow rooted in sex.
>Monogomy is only needed when raising a child, once the child can take care of its self, unfortunately it's getting to be the age of 25 with all you NEETS with over compensating mothers it would probably be naturally 12-15 depending on the maturity level.
>>27263687
Sex is nothing special.
It's a physiological process where two people seek mutual benefit in the form of physical excitement.
It is also used for procreation.
There is nothing romantic about sex. There is nothing interesting about sex. There is nothing especially fun about sex.
If you're a virgin, you're not missing anything.
If you've had sex more than a couple of times, you know that I'm right.
>>27264002
Well said, anon. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
>>27263713
But he's entirely right.
>>27263687
I'm sorry for using tumblr buzzword but i'm as close as it can to be as demisexual. I couldnt have sex without some sort of romantic investment. Casual sex in party is absolutely disgusting for me.
In theory I don't care about a woman's sexual history as long as she's happy with me and loves me.
The truth is that most women never stop comparing you to every other dick they've taken.
Women keep stacking up encounters while my number is still zero, and they have no clemency for virgins.
I wouldn't care about your number if you didn't care about mine.
From someone who's had sex before, I assure you: It really doesn't change your life that much, fellas. It might give you a brief confidence boost, but that's about it.
Thing is, you're always going to be horny. Just because you have sex once doesn't mean you won't be horny again in a day or two. It's no different than eating. You can eat the finest gourmet meal in the world for lunch, but you'll still be hungry by dinner.
>>27263757
This. We are slowly heading towards hypergamy, hordes of useless beta men and a societal collapse thanks to easy contraceptives and technological progress.
I want it now
>>27267024
that's not the point of this thread
>>27263713
How exactly?
Inb4 it's 2016!
I'm an autistic perma-virgin, so there is really no reason why I should care either way what consenting adults I don't even know are doing with each other. Even if I did care, what could I do about it? Get assblasted about "MUH DEGENERACY" on 4chan?
>>27263687
i dont care about sex i just dont want to be lonely
>>27264238
>people change over time in any case
For the worse, when they're promiscuous.
John Zmirak put it best: promiscuity inflates the sexual currency. Sex is the most profound way two people can give themselves to the other. If a sexual partnership is one among many, then the partners only masturbate into one another for momentary pleasure, gradually killing the all-important link between the physical act of sex and the emotional, spiritual love it's supposed to foster.
>>27267903
>I'm an autistic perma-virgin, so there is really no reason why I should care either way what consenting adults I don't even know are doing with each other. Even if I did care, what could I do about it? Get assblasted about "MUH DEGENERACY" on 4chan?
the way in which society conducts itself and the rules of reproduction absolutely do affect you, retard.
>>27268567
How does the way society handle sex affect me when I have no part in society, nor do I have any sex life?
19 f khv here ;^)
>sex without love is degenerate
>sex as a casual activity or a consumer product is disgusting
>gays are fine, i don't really care about them, its possible their presence has some evolutionary benefit to society but there hasn't really been enough research (see: http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/282/1809/20150429)
>i don't really have an global opinion on chastity or modesty, its just something i personally practice
>i don't believe in legally or culturally confining people to one role based on their sex, but there are obviously very strong correlations and ppl who claim men and women are 'the same' apart from the physical are objectively wrong
idk why i even bothered to type all this out, this thread is cancer desu. i was just bored
>>27268700
You'll realize your part in society when it crumbles too far to sustain you
>>27267304
>>27268945
>society is going to crumble!!!
Yeah, ok, miserable asshats like you have never been wrong every time before have you?
Lemme know when we've created Slaanesh and I'll give you your well-earned props.
>>27263713
ARE YOU JOSHING MY JIMS?
>>27268038
>gradually killing the all-important link between the physical act of sex and the emotional, spiritual love it's supposed to foster.
When I see stuff like this on 4chan, I can't help but wonder if stuff like "love" and "spiritual connections" are already lost to me. I'm a kissless virgin, but I feel like things like me being literally autistic, spending too much time on the Internet, and general social isolation have all sapped my humanity and made me into a machine.
Agree, but in todays world where marriage is most often a bad deal for men and where almost no women are marriage material I think that sex outside of marriage is acceptable.
>>27269088
I know they don't teach history in Lesbian Cavediving Theory 101 but pick up an objective history book sometime
>>27263687
>The success of a society is directly related to the chastity and modesty practiced or enforced by its women
This is in the Srimad-Bhagavatam I believe. One of the signs of the Kali-yuga is unrestrained unchaste women.
I think it's important to find a good middle ground. Obviously, it isn't healthy to make everything into a big public orgy or something, but at the same time, I really don't think people should be too wound up and sexually repressed, because then people will just end up being cranky and more violent, like how people are in the Middle East.
>>27269254
>because then people will just end up being cranky and more violent, like how people are in the Middle East.
Islam is a badly constructed religion, but you can't deny its reproductive success or its expansive energy.
>>27266611
>unfortunately it's getting to be the age of 25 with all you NEETS
>tfw 26 and counting
I honestly have no problem with people having casual sex or sex before marriage but I do have a problem if people aren't responsible about it or trying to talk their way out of facts.
I have more tolerance( and respect) for women who admit their sexual nature rather than brush it off and act like they've been a good girl whose done nothing wrong.Because the former is consistent and don't need to worry about as often. the latter can fuck you over just by being in the same room.
>>27269412
>I have more tolerance( and respect) for women who admit their sexual nature rather than brush it off and act like they've been a good girl whose done nothing wrong.
I feel the same way, mainly because I really don't think that denying your own nature as a human being is healthy. If there's someone who has a high sex drive and strongly craves sex, but also had a very prudish upbringing, I would much rather that the person relieve their sexual urges in as healthy a way as possible, rather than tearing themselves apart over two parts of their mind that contradict each other.
>>27263687
>i don't believe in being "friends first"
trying to have sex (animal urge) under the pretenses of friendship (higher, altruistic social contract) is the antithesis of fucking friendship. i think it's ok for young people - if i had a daughter, i'd absolutely teach her to get to know a boy in terms of his social morals. but as a 20-something adult, when a girl pulls "friends first," i just fucking cringe.
>women flaunt it more openly, yet are less equipped to handle the repercussions
cleavage and see-through pants to attract chad because "betas are boring." but no one tells the girl that she's boring, overweight, and stupid, so she gets pumped and dumped. does she take responsibility, like a man, figure out how to avoid that, and move on? fuck no. it's "muh emotional bond, men don't even, womyn body is temple, where r real men." friendzoned betas at home jerking off have no sympathy. women are shocked by this. ignore betas who actually give a shit even more.
>women are hilariously inept at being sexy
they either just lie there, or over-exaggerate. very seldom is it natural. but again, god forbid you say that. because only men can be brainwashed by porn and rape culture and durr.
I have a pretty low sex drive myselfprobably due to my sendentary lifestyle., but I get that most other people are too obsessed with sex to go without it, so I don't begrudge them for their urges. Even on 4chan, people never shut up about "tfw no gf", or their waifus, or whatever.
My gf politely refused to answer the question when I asked her if she was a virgin and I just can't see it the same way. For fuck's sake, I had never cared about this before today yet it's driving me crazy, the fact she might be comparing me to someone even if I turn out to be bigger/better is incredibly humiliating to me and I feel like I got someone's unfinished plate. She's a fine girl in every other aspect but I can't shake the feeling I'm getting retroactively cucked.
>>27269788
>My gf politely refused to answer the question when I asked her if she was a virgin
Did you try asking her son?
Sex is fun. Committed relationship sex is fun. Just having sex because of attraction is fun. Waiting until I am legally committed to have sex with a woman is not fun. Gays dont affect me.
>>27269813
No, and as far as I know she's only had one boyfriend before me but it was a very long relationship (3 years) so it's practically guaranteed they fucked.
Well, I watch a lot of porn, and everytime I click on certain porn video there's a string of recommendation links besides this video, and they aren not always related to my fetish in any way. One day I was alone at home, and my first thought was jerking off to porn. Well I clicked in some conventional sex? But mysteriously, it redirected me to gay sex. Now don't get me wrong, I was very horny at the time and I had never seen gay sex before, and I was like "well why not, there's only me in here anyway". I liked it at
I heard that the most successful people were either completely sexually chaste virgins who never masturbated or sex addicts who got off whenever they could.
>>27263687
In the end you wish you were the degenerate you pretend to look down upon
>Sex is special
You're a fucking faggot if you honestly believe this.
It's literally just the means in which our species reproduces.
Society, acquaintances, the media, and your family hype the fuck out of it just because it feels good for like 3 seconds of orgasm.
If it feels good, do it. :3
>>27264238
>countries with higher birthrates are all monogamous and they have less sex?
The biggest enabler of all of this is contraception you idiot.
>depression
>meme
great argument
>divorce rates
>legal and religious issue, has nothing to do with sexuality
>>>>>>>>divorce has nothing to do with sexuality
see >>27264083
This entire argument is logic vs itfeelsgood hedonists. Fucking mindless animals destroying society.
>>27263687
>Sex before marriage is degenerate
[disagree]
>Sex as a casual activity or a consumer product is disgusting
[agree, although not in favour of censorship i wish it was significantly less popular]
>Gays are mentally ill evolutionary mutations
[disagree, both for reasons of the definition of mental illness (essentially socially defined), and for the implication they're undesirable (while gay culture isn't my thing, they're no more harmful than what i am.)
>The success of a society is directly related to the chastity and modesty practiced or enforced by its women
[disagree with directly-related, would suggest that there's a correlation between the two caused by outside factors.]
>men must be strong, women must be modest
[definitely disagree, no interest in being strong and believe almost everyone should be modest.]
t. guy who claims to be asexual because he has no interest in real world sex as he's concluded masturbation is superior (my hand is far less disgusting than an ass/vagina and has no risk of STDs, I can fap any time I'm alone instead of needing to find another person who's willing, etc.)
I don't like talking about sex, it doesn't interest me. people who talk to me probably think i'm childishly naive about the topic instead of just uninterested in discussing it. if offered sex, i would refuse. (both out of disinterest, fear, and interest in proving to myself "i can refuse this thing other people want so much")
so to be honest i don't really care what people who have interest in having sex do, although i tend to judge people who have a saviour complex towards women, or those who think returning to <1960s social values instead of forging new ones is desirable. (both /pol/ and tumblr views on sex and sexuality lack appeal to me.)
>>27264083
>correlation = causation!
BAN THE LEMONS
>>27263687
Pretty much agree. Unfortunately it makes finding a decent girl pretty tough.
>>27271216
Here is the reply to your shitpost.
>>27263687
>Extramarital sex is most often a bad idea.
>If casual sex gets socially accepted it seriously endangers the success and health of the people and society.
>Monogamy is neccessary for society to be stable and healthy.
>I understand male homosexuality, but its bad for society and should therefore not be accepted by people.
>>27268038
>Sex is the most profound way two people can give themselves to the other
Who honestly believes this bullshit?
>the sexual currency
Sex isn't a currency, it's a product.
The influx in casual sex is people slowly realizing that it's actually pretty worthless. For hundreds, perhaps thousands of years the value of sex was held artificially high - and now the market has been liberalized and prices are crashing. It's not inflation, it's a market correction.
>killing the all-important link between the physical act of sex and the emotional, spiritual love it's supposed to foster
Why does there need to be a link? Why can't you have emotional, spiritual love unrelated to sex?
>>27264279
>weakens the will of man
because being a chaste cuck slave to a roastie is really what builds willpower
>>27271100
This tbqh. Sex is overrated. Well sure, we all have this sexual urge, and we fuck each other to get rid of it. It feels good for a couple of moments, and that's it.
There really nothing special about this. Of course sex with your beloved gf may be more fun.
But people looking down on other people having casual sex are stupid.
People love to fuck, get over it guys. Nothing wrong with it.
Not trying to be the normie here though. Virgin myself here. But especially vorgins and robots like us should really shut the fuck up about it because this >>27271090.
I bet my fucking ass you would take the next opportunity of a women wanting casual sex with you.
just accept the fact that it's your fault you're still a virgin and stop looking down on people having sex outside of a relationship.
>>27264474
>Bear offspring; preserve your people and family lineage.
>Children should have to suffer this horrible world, made worse by his shit genes, because "muh family!"
The only thing wrong with antinatalism is that we're not teaching it as gospel to the third world.
>>27267348
I kek'd really fucking hard to this post but I'm not sure why
>>27268038
>sexual currency
if sex is a currency, is a hooker a currency exchange?
>Sex before marriage must be punished severely, even by law
>Sexuality (a private matter) should not enter the public sphere
>Homosexuals must keep their behavior quiet and unseen, or prepare to be executed
>Religion & fear must be used to guarantee the virtue of the masses
>>27271339
>Not trying to be the normie here though. Virgin myself here
It doesn't matter, you are still a roastie. I can tell you are a woman because you don't have the moral courage or heart to judge and condemn people ("People love to fuck, get it over... shut the fuck up about it").
>you would take the next opportunity of a women wanting casual sex with you
Only in a feminized society like ours would this ever be considered a serious argument. God, I wish we could bring back witch burning. Men used to be ashamed of their weaknesses, you know. But now the attitude is "I'm always right" - a culture of infantile masturbators. Go fuck yourself, whore.
>>27263687
>WAHHH WAHH WHY AM I A VIRGIN
>>27271722
good thesis and hypothesis
>>27271709
I would love be a woman anon.
Unfortunetely I'm not though. I was born with a small phimosis penis.
If you don't believe in degeneracy you have no real moral values. Having moral values means that consistently breaking them is degenerate.
>>27272015
this is true only in the most technical of senses.
on 4chan, 'degeneracy' has connotations of a very specific kind of moral values, and everyone without autism understands the value of context when using certain words.
The thing is, degeneracy is bad, yes. But do you guys really think casual sex is degenerate? Or at least THAT much degenerate it's literally destroying society as you say?
I don't think so. Casual sex can be very degenerate, yes. For example one night stands with complete strangers in a drunken state.
But there is nothing wrong with meeting up for casual sex. Both parties know it's just casual, want to fuck because their urge tells them to and both know there's nothing more. That's okay to be honest. After all both benefit from it and no harm has been done.
This solely applies to single persons though.
>>27272165
>completely harmless
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>>27272155
I'm not sure I understand you. Everyone has different moral values, though many have similar ones.
>>27272247
Let's say my moral values are that not having gay sex every day and forcing every child to have a sex change is wrong.
Now, technically, to me any sane normal person is a degenerate.
However, in the context of 4chan posting, "degenerate" is used to refer to violation of a certain set of fuzzy moral values, and I'm the degenerate within the context of those values, if I was to say "Letting your child keep their birth sex is degeneracy" I'd be accused of baiting and I'd be violating the implied "rule" (for lack of a better word) as to how the word degeneracy is used here.
>>27272196
Okay maybe I should be more specified.
I'm thinking more of the younger generation. Between 16 and 25.
Look, I also think people should form families with proper values and all that kind of things. I know what you're on about.
But look, it's not like people are able to form families with the age of 18 or even 20. Not in this year of 2016. I think you pretty much agree. Education, good, stable income, etc. You have that at least at the age of 25.
So what about all those 16 year old teenagers who have nothing in their mind than getting their dick wet? There is nothing wrong with having casual sex, as I explained in my post.
I get your point, yeah.
Also
>wanting to contribute to this overpopulating world
>>27272332
>accused of baiting
Yes because that's such an uncommon value to hold morally.
Sure there is a hivemind of what is degenerate and what's not but everyone has different morals and therefore different definitions of degeneracy. I see what you mean about my first post. But morality is not 100% objective and known by many for all. Everyone may have different moral values. Though some people will make up their values to suit their needs, it is not wrong to have personal moral values that are not the same as the majority.
>Premarital sex is predatory in nature
>Divorce rate, Marital dissatisfaction and Suicide correlate too strongly to promiscuity to be a coincidence
>Individuals who are negatively impacted by sexuality should be counselled in a similar manner to rape survivors
>Preferring to marry a virgin is evolutionary, natural, and logical, and is not a form of slut shaming
> sex within a permanent relationship is important in preventing conflict, to the point of sometimes becoming a necessary evil
> as long as it's between a consenting married couple, very few sex acts are actually degenerate
> Female sexual predators are not punished as thoroughly as they should be
> attempted seduction is an abhorrence
>>27272989
>attempted seduction
do you mean picking up women?
>>27271293
>Sex isn't a currency, it's a product.
>The influx in casual sex is people slowly realizing that it's actually pretty worthless. For hundreds, perhaps thousands of years the value of sex was held artificially high - and now the market has been liberalized and prices are crashing. It's not inflation, it's a market correction.
Sex for a moment's pleasure, not for forward-looking things like relationship and procreation, really is worthless. Real sex is a valuable currency you spend to show and strengthen love. With casual sex, at best you show you find someone sexy or fun.
Why do you think sex was so controlled in practically every human society through history?
>Why does there need to be a link? Why can't you have emotional, spiritual love unrelated to sex?
Hopefully you do- with friends and family. But it's obviously not the same kind of love as marriage, which is by definition a unique sexual union.
>>27273127
Women attempting to convince men into sex, as well, in fact, since a woman in this half of the world has such an easy time shaming men into sleeping with her, and since suicide rates jump higher in men who get coaxed into premarital sex, that's probably worse
How many people have premarital sex now, over 80 percent?
>>27272431
>muh dick
It's called getting a girlfriend/boyfriend, something which most teenagers are perfectly capable of.
Spineless cowards like you are the reason that the family unit is broken.
Casual sex for both men and women is destructive, when people have sex there is a bonding chemical released in the brain. To go against that causes issues.
>overpopulation myth
>not just stopping africans/arabs/indians from breeding like rabbits
>>27264268
Like I could give a fuck about that.
>>27273338
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>>27274264
>not just stopping africans/arabs/indians from breeding like rabbits
they breed like rabbits and die like mayflies
>>27274851
Doesn't mean everyone is actually like that. Still a lot of decent people left.
Sex is like taking a shit, or eating. It's not a big deal and frankly we should stop making one out of it.
Likewise, just as eating, you can also be healthy about sex, and what modern trend is definitely not healthy in any sense of the word.
Women should be castrated as a solution to it desu
>>27274970
>sex is not a big deal
>women should be castrated
u wot m8
How do you view affairs?
Isn't that just men being strong? But it is sex outside of marriage.
Premarital sex is degenerate. How can you fully love a girl who let another guy get intimate with her?
just do whatever the fuck you want
I'm really tired of all this bullshit and if you still have energy you're a normie
>>27274997
Yeah. Imagine if people were super addicted to this toxic food that guaranteed cancer and made them die in their 30s
Society would go to shit really quick.
The way roasties are going on about sex is similar to that - they are scum of scum because of how focused they are on fucking instead of being prudent about it.
>>27275101
are you a roastie?
why do you care them?
let those bitches fuck themselves up
I'll just prepare my popcorn when divorce epidemic happens
>>27275135
I forgot there are actual robots here. What I'm asking for is for social hygiene, which is basically making women stop craving the cock so much so things can stabilize instead of going to shit.
If that would happen, maybe your numbers would dwindle.
>>27263713
>HURR DURR LOL UR JUST A VURGIN XDXDXXDXD
kill yourself
>sex before marriage.
Get out you disgusting fucking normies.
>>27263687
Sex before marriage is alright if they've known each other long enough (if you're living together and it's been about a year, year and a half it should be fine).
"Bootycalls" and "one night stands" I'm not a fan of, but I don't hate people who do them.
Sex should be something more than just a way to relieve yourself. Whether it's tenderly holding each other for lustful passion or banging each other until exhaustion, it should be something mutual that's connecting the two people.
I always thought strip clubs were dumb as hell.
>>27275173
lol I actually want the number of single mothers to skyrocket until government is obliged to cut benefits or purge them
>>27275240
Cool. I want mandatory female castration on birth and post-birth abortions up to the 45th year being lawful when done to robots and nu-males. It's sad that neither will happen.
>>27275258
I wish it were legal to take children away if two people make any more than 3 and prove repeatedly they can't take care of them.
And I mean just kill them since they're kids. But that's "too mean."
>>27275199
>sex period
how about you fuck off, bateman?
>>27275221
>it should be something mutual that's connecting the two people.
Why?
Why must sex always be special?
Sex occasionally being nothing more than mechanical pleasure doesn't mean it can never be special again.
>>27276108
>Sex occasionally being nothing more than mechanical pleasure doesn't mean it can never be special again.
There's clearly something special about sex, even for one-night stands, because people can seek any level of merely mechanical pleasure with themselves.
And it does make the experience of sex less special, just as drug abuse dullens life's joys by misdirecting the brain's reward pathways toward pure pleasure.
It's funny watching disgusting normie filth destroy themselves over and over again.
>>27277142
>just as drug abuse dullens life's joys by misdirecting the brain's reward pathways toward pure pleasure.
what a terrible analogy.
in that case, it's literally fucking up the pleasure receptors in your head. in the case of casual sex, it's more like eating ice-cream for every meal.
>>27263687
>I want to have it
you have any argument to back that up?
>m-muh tradition
>>27276108
>Sex occasionally being nothing more than mechanical pleasure doesn't mean it can never be special again.
Yes it does
>>27275221
>Sex before marriage is alright if they've known each other long enough
No it isn't
>>27277875
Why?
Does talking being a universal action preclude special conversations? Does driving to work mean you can never take a pleasurable road-trip? Does holding hands with your mother to cross the street as a child mean you can never value holding your girlfriend's hand, or hold your own child's hand as they cross the street?
It's gross but I really don't give a shit about how much sex other people have
I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of promiscuity
>>27275221
strip clubs are dumb as hell, but not for that reason.
traditionalists just want everyone to be miserable. they're like equal-opportunity feminists (who just want men to be miserable.)
the stupider ones think everyone would be happy if you just forced them to get married to the first person they decided to fug, stick together for the good of a child neither of them wanted, etc.
>>27277942
They would be happier
Get fucked degenerate
>>27277957
>people would be happier doing what i force them to do than what they choose to do
will you take your gulag in red or in yellow?
>>27277905
on /r9k/ this is part of the general rhetorical stream of blaming the age for the state of their lives; if only they'd been born in a stricter, less free time, surely they would have been successes, and they only withdraw from the market because they disapprove of it, not because they can't enter it.
the only thing i disapprove of on this board is bullshitting ourselves about the state of our lives. swallowing down this kind of false nostalgia is just hiding your head in the sand, refusing to face the horror of your own life. if there's any small dignity our lives deserve, it's for them to be understood for what they are.
i seriously cannot imagine why anyone would want to be forced to wagecuck for a woman and ungrateful child, with the threat of divorce still looming overhead.
actually, i can, but i can't imagine why anyone would be so naive. or believe that the past was actually a better time, as opposed to one that just tried harder to paper over the cracks.
contraception fucked everything up
>>27278351
yep. things were so much better in the days of vaginal lily root and infanticide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_birth_control
