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Why are lolicons tolerated on 4chan?
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Why are lolicons tolerated on 4chan?
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>>27258042
Because kawaii girls anon
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because moot was one
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It doesn't seem to be a predictor of IRL violence against children. (If this is incorrect please give information otherwise, I really would like to know.)

I don't like it myself, the sexualization of even fictional kids sits poorly with me.
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>allowing your employer to be aware of your online presence
baka desu senpai
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>>27258073
Increased prevalence of pornography has been linked with a decrease in rape...

Soooo...
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>>27258073
I don't really think there's good research done on this subject
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>>27258073
>It doesn't seem to be a predictor of IRL violence against children.
I doubt there's a single research paper looking at lolicon hentai at all. It doesn't matter either way because even being a true blue pedophile doesn't matter if you're not going out and molesting children.
Trying to say everyone who likes lolis are at risk of molesting children is like saying all men are at risk of raping women.
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>>27258073

The sexualization of drawn children is better than the sexualization of real ones.

My philosophy is that if no one is being hurt, what's the issue?

Now, I am not a psychiatrist, so please don't take anything I say as "fact", but I feel that loli is not a "gateway drug", the jump from drawn socially acceptable porn to illegal, publicly demonized, morally reprehensible, real-life version, is so so so large, that most people won't make it.

The sad thing is, people who have sexual urges towards children are not monsters, not until they act on it. They are victims of their own sexual fetish, and if loli allows them to have an outlet for that without them progressing past it... I'm all for it. Even if I do find it creepy. (though honestly, it's all about context and art style, a lot of what is marked as lolicon has girls acting like 20-something year olds, the stuff I simply can't enjoy is anytime the child-ization is overly apparent, e.g. child like features combined with child-like behavior, or straight up toddler-con)
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>>27258194
This post is basically my opinion on the matter, I mean heck even I have fapped to loli shit but I would never touch a real life young person because that's actually fucked
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>>27258042
Because they're a fucking drawing, not a person.
You can't sexually abuse an inanimate, 2D illustration.
I love how normies will give us shit about waifus not being real, but when it comes to lolicon they treat it as if they're real children.
Also, that picture is the fakest shit I've ever seen.
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>>27258550
But be sexually attracted to a transgender don't make you a faggot :^)
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>>27258550
And even if someone is attracted to that shit as long as the arent an irl kiddy diddler or something it hurts no one. Once they cross that boundary tho they deserve to be beaten and thrown in prison.
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>>27258550
No, being sexually attracted to children makes you a pedophile.
The two are not the same whatsoever.
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There's two things not tolerated in this Western Society. White people with dreadlocks and pedophilies.

You can have tattoos, piercings, fuck people of the same gender, be a furry but you literally cannot be a pedo.
Gay people can't help being born that way but you chose to be a pedo.
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>>27258657
You keep playing mental gymnastics with the whole "sexual characteristics" shit.
So if you like a 25 year old girl with a flat chest that makes you a pedophile?
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>>27258042
4chan was founded by lolicons, it's the normies who need to gtfo
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>>27258090
Why is child porn illegal again?
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>>27258732
Roasties banned it because they couldn't compete
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>>27258732
That's so retarded.

It's as retarded as:
"Study suggests showing heroin addicts videos of people injecting heroin lowers incidence of opiate addiction."

I swear mate someone is fucking trying to ruin this world. Which is fine by me but how retarded can you get?

All you need is the word "study" in there, once you have that, you can push any ridiculously fucked up idea/concept.
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>>27258793
>roasties
>compete

Nah, it was banned because your parents didn't want someone pumping your toddler intestines full of air until you die.
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>>27258823
Well, do people normally masturbate to videos of other people injecting heroin?

There's a method in which it works, pervs jack it to pictures instead of forcing themselves on the girl next door, pretty simple concept.
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>>27258137
Actually it does matter. If you're not molesting kids you're not doing anything wrong, you're right. But there's always that risk. You wouldn't let a pedo babysit your kids even if he hadn't molested any in the past, what if your kid is his first victim?
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>>27258852
>All intergenerational relationships have to boil down to violent intercourse

Open your mind man
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>not deleting all negative representations of yourself off the internet

the only thing that comes up when i search my name is facebook and some shit from high school and papers my name was published on. none of them include my online handle so they can't even find out i like videogames.

how do people fuck this up so hard?
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>>27258732
Because actually child porn is pornography of a real world child that they are not able to consent to people jacking it too, imagine finding out that some guy had pics of you as a 5 year old he jacked it too all day, shits fucked up.
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>>27258732
That's pretty stupid, you're just condoning one aspect of child abuse.
>It's okay to fap to a child getting raped, but if we find you doing it you're fucked
Probably the dumbest shit I've read all month.
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>>27258042
Because we were here first. We are 4chan.


Better question, why are normies like OP tolerated on 4chan?
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>>27258891
>>27258901
Allowing it seems stupid, but not allowing it makes more children get raped which seems stupider.
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I dont understand how people can be so stupid.
You can fap to the drawings of rape, murder, scar, incest, degradation, humiliation, any other form of violence, monsters, bestiality etc.
>lol makes u a lil weird but whatever floats ur boat

Faps to loli
>SCUM OF EARTH you should be hanged you probably molest kids! Or dream of doing it, you can snap at any moment! You probably have a small dick lol enjoy being raped in prison

its been proven several times that things like this dont influence us, a voilent movie wont make you more violent, satan music wont make you kill people, videogames dont make you lose reality.
How is fapping to a fetish/scenario any diffrent
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>>27258931
This tbqh

4chan was always home to the loli, because we all wished to be the little girl.
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>>27258985
Allowing a lesser evil so a worse evil doesn't happen isn't how society works these days, its like letting psychopaths beat people up regularly to stop them from killing someone later someone still has to take the beating.
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>>27259044
more like letting psychopaths get off on looking at drawings of fictional people being beat up if you want the proper comparison.
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>>27259044
I will accept that answer when you tell me how fapping to pixels ten years after the video was produced in any way damage the girl in said video.
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>>27258862
It's a matter of time before you get depressed/fed up with your little video and you'll look for the real thing.
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>>27259066
>"fictional"
What do you mean by this unless you mean the government making children from scratch with computer software or something a real child would still have to have sexual photos taken of it for the purpose of pedos batting to them. I mean I don't know how easy it is to make realistic looking kiddy porn that isn't of real children but I mean if that was possible and doable then I guess that's fine, mainly its just the fact that no real child should be subjected to being sexualized in that way by someone
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>>27259096
Which is why we don't allow normal and/or BDSM porn because we all know the bastards will eventually put their penises into real women.

oh wait
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>>27258878
Yeah

>open your mind man

Be in a romantic relationship with a 4 year old girl, open your mind, man.

Kill yourself.
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>>27259111
Look, you said allowing a lesser evil to exist isn't how society works. You were comparing the situation to a psycopath hurting a real person so he doesn't hurt real people.

The real comparison here is a psychpatch looking at a drawing of fictional people an artist drew in a situation that gives him pleasure where nobody at all gets hurt.

Do you understand? It should be simple.
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>>27259134
Yes but in real life child porn the children are real human beings on this earth not fictional ?_?
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>>27259111
>>27259134
nevermind, you were talking about 3DPD. I retract what I said.
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imagine claiming being lolicon instead of being a 2d perfection worshipper

That's why those people don't feel like a danger, they look more like mentally challenged people instead of a danger to society

OPs pic was hilarious
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>>27259019
What? You're comparing way different things.

If you're into jacking off to little girls, you want to fuck one, and given the chance you will. Don't even try to say otherwise.

I jack off to grown women because I want to fuck them. Not because it helps me not actually want to fuck them. And if you get nothing but the videos eventually you get depressed because you're not getting the real thing
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>>27259152
nevermind, pls see >>27259154

I fucked up.
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>>27259166
What do you think you would do if you never had those videos in the first place?

Would the answer be something along the lines of "go out and get real girls as quick as possible"?
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Pedophiles are as mentally ill as transgender retards.
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>>27258698
I guess it means you think that liking flat chest makes you a pedo. How's the autismbux ?
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>>27259166
Yes i wanna fuck them, but guess what
Theyre TWO DIMENSIONAL. Its FANTASY. People can keep fiction and reality apart is my point. Lolis are not real
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>>27259248
>implying Muhammad was an aberration for liking little girls
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>>27259215
A rapist is a rapist regardless of whether porn exists, but can porn wake the rapist within someone who has the potential to be one? Yes. Can you blame porn for it? To an extent.

Pedophile is a pedophile regardless of porn. Can a pedophile mature in his preferences and perversions with the help of porn? Yeah.

How can you dangle something someone wants in front of them and act like the act of isn't simulating the need further?
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>>27259285
Insult mai waifu again n ai swear on me mum m8 I'm gob ya.
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>>27259285
This. If 2D became 3D, we'd either vomit or scream in terror.

>tfw you will never become 2D
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>>27259290
Is that all ? Pretty disappointed desu senpai
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>>27258042
I don't get the left really. They are anti loli and shota, but pro pedophilia...
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>>27259166
>>27259285
And it has nothing to do with "trying to cope so i dont do the real thing grrr im so frustrated" The 2d in loli is the fetish. The thing that theyre not human is whats attractive, the anime, the style. Again how is this so hard to understand?
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>>27259301
Multiple studies have shown that more net access, more porn access has decreased the rate of rape.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/30/smut_freakonomics/
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>tfw lolicon who admits it's pedo
>argue with other lolicons who act like fapping to drawn children isn't pedo in any way, shape, or form.
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>>27259344
Yeah and correlation doesn't equal causation right?

Everyone who took this medicine got cancer, but that doesn't mean it caused it. Right, goy?

How long did those studies last for anyway? A month?
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>>27259404
Did you actually even read the article or are you just throwing shit at walls to see what sticks?
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>>27259415
He's a /pol/ack. What do you expect
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>>27259337
Yeah, ok.

>understand

Why don't you go and masturbate to Thomas The Train then? It's 2D.

Why not jack off grown 2D women? Why pick something that clearly represents a 7 year old girl?
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>>27259415
How can I take something that undermines basic human instinct seriously?
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>>27259337
>The thing that theyre not human is whats attractive
No. If it truly wasn't human you wouldn't fap to it. You fap to loli because it is an anime child.

>the anime, the style
So someone who faps to 2D feet and only 2D feet isn't a foot fag using your logic. I mean they're only fapping to highly stylized 2D anime feet. The feet aren't real so their desire for feet isn't real, right?
No one buys your mental gymnastics, even many lolicons.
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>>27259500
>basic human instinct
There have been many points throughout human history where child/child or child and adult sexual contact wasn't prohibited, or even encouraged. This instance of your 'basic human instinct' is actually just a god you've been trained to worship that doesn't actually exist.
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>>27259451
Personally i jack it to both, depends on my mood.

i dont know why im attracted to it but i am, its a fetish Theres no clear explaination but probably combination of things, theyre cute, innocent, its taboo, tiny etc. Why does it matter what it represents when its fiction? It works becuase its fiction.
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>>27259524
>If it truly wasn't human you wouldn't fap to it.
What is feral furry?
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>implying there's anything wrong with lolicon or pedophilia

i've never seen anyone friendlier than the underground pedo community.
prove me wrong if you can.
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>>27259524
Well my main point is that its fantasy, and if you dont think most people can keep fantasy and reality seperate youre a moron.
But yes there's more type of lolicon that are attracted to the real deal too which dont matter becuase they can seperate reality and fantasy. If this wasnt the case japan and pretty much any other country would have crazy amount of attacks on kids, do you even know how popular loli is? For all you know your dad or brother beats to it too
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because 4chan was created as a website for internet weeaboo subculture, where lolicon is prevalent
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>>27259686
big chance he punished his snake while changing his diaper too.
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>>27259686
>if you dont think most people can keep fantasy and reality seperate youre a moron.
Where did anyone say that? You're conflating "pedophilia" with "child molester".

I mean it's just being honest with yourself. I fap to loli and I realize that makes me a pedo. Just I stick to 2D doesn't change the fact I'm still fapping to children.
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20 y/o Pedophile here
have to pick my major soon

what should I major in?
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>>27259763
japanology
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>>27259763
Electrical Engineering or Computer Science.
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>>27259763

i love how you can be young and still be considered a pedo
>omg he's marrying an underage girl who's 4 years younger than him!
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>>27259763
developmental psychology
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>>27259722
Becuase thats how most people see pedos, mention pedo and they instantly think child molester. Calling yourself a pedo is a deathwish
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>>27259789

I like 11-13 y/o's.
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>>27259763
gunshot injuries to the brain 101
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>>27259815
stay mad normalfag
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>>27259801
The sorts of people who think fapping to anime children is the same as molesting children are the sorts of people I'd never mention the word "lolicon" to.
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>>27258732
I hate children, but child porn is made by abusing children. Forcing them, beating them, etc.
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>>27259571
Thank you

Or scalies

Or monsters

Or food

Or vehicles

Or non-dildoable household objects
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>browses lolicon
>pedophile

Pick 2.

Anyone that looks at loli is a pedophile end of story.
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>>27259841
you realize loli is broader than " girl who is a child" right? It also encompasses women who are of age but are very petite.
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>>27259830
Not him but banning CP that's already been made won't unharm those children. We don't ban gore videos after all.
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>>27258732
I think simulated child pornography, such as 3D imagery, lolicon, shotacon, etc. should absolutely be legal. It's fucking ridiculous to think that preventing imaginary children from being molested is going to prevent real children from being molested and in fact probably counter intuitive since it would give them an outlet for their sexual desires.

So countries like Canada and the UK that have made it illegal to jerk off to drawn pictures of children are actually potentially endangering real children.
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>>27258042
REE RI RO RUM

I SMELL THE PRESENCE OF NORMIE SCUM!

BE HE A STACY OR BE HE CHAD

I'LL SHITPOST HIM OUT OF HIS OWN THREAD!
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>>27259882
The universal aspect that appeals to lolicons are youth. Even on weeaboo site like Gelbooru, you'd have to search "flatchest" to get what you're talking about instead of "loli", which is mostly full of underdeveloped girls.
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>>27259122
I didn't know you were a Muslim. Congratulations with your relationship anon and thanks for your diverse opinion.
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>>27259882

Oh look, another pedo trying to downplay his pedo habit.
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>>27259912
if you're petite, you can still have breasts and a chest that isn't flat
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>>27259938
nah, it's true. You ever meet petite adult girls? Japan calls them lolis too, even though they're of age. Take it up with Japan.
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>>27259953

Loli is majority underage depictions. 99.9% pedo.
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>>27259892
That is an amazing point, actually.

I don't personally like gore threads, but yeah, that really is an incredible double standard.

Holy shit.
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>>27259942
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=petite

http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=loli
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>>27259960
Sure it is, kid. Sure it is.
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>>27259964
You're going to cite Gelbooru and not the actual Japanese meaning?
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>>27259960
hentai in general is 99.9% underage depictions considering the majority of all anime characters are in high school
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>>27259892
if you kill a person, it's not like he will care anymore, sure
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>>27260012
The etymology of a word doesn't always define it. Lolita was 13, but "Lolita complex" is now used in Japan to describe anyone from people attracted real 3 year olds to people who fap to early-pubescent anime girls.

>>27260050
In that case we should ban gore and murder videos. The person killed is only one victim. Their family and friends are all affected, as are their friends and their families.
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>>27259815
that's not a major you idiot
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what is the best anime to watch with qt lolis in it /r9k/?
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>>27260911
Perhaps prisma illya. It's the show that just keeps giving.
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>>27260911
Strawberry Marshmallow
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>>27260940
Prisma Illya has some serious pedobait
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>>27258550
I am attracted to anime tits because they look like normal boobs and along with the cute anime faces they trigger a sexual response from me. It is probably similar for lolicons. Thet are attracted by the carteen faces and child like features.
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I used to use my company's internet to post antisemitism and racism. Never had a problem.
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>>27262256
Because your boss is a racist xenophobic biggot like everyone else in the 1%
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>>27258042
As with gays, it's important to distinguish between having a desire and acting upon it. Sexual acts with the underage is statutory rape (legit rape if they're prepubescent), but there's nothing inherently wrong with being a pedophile or ephebophile.

Loli porn is allowed in some places on 4chan because drawings are not people. Raping or murdering a real person is a serious crime. Drawing such a thing is art, which has repeatedly been ruled to be covered under freedom of speech, widely regarded as a basic human right.

The guy in that pic was showing poor judgement in having a job with kids and a loli blog. Whether or not he would've molested the kids, it was cause for his boss and co-workers to mistrust him. That ends your ability to work there regardless.
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pedo here I have sex with a 14 year old girl and a 15 year old girl on a weekly basis while having sex with a 10 year old on a daily basis. they all love it, there's no pain or trauma involved. law and order svu is just propaganda
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>being a pedo is robot culture/robot

Lol. It's closer to normie. Searching for taboos/lusting after the vulnerable for sexual release is dopamine craving normie shit or creating idealized delusions of purity is the same shit stacy does to chad so she can get her headrush fix.

You're literally just criminal normans and loli is a meme.

>b-b-b-but we're one of you
nah m8
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>>27262739
>pedo
>14
>15
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>>27262758
i came here to say this also
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>>27262687
Back to plebbit. Or tumblr.
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>>27262758
well im 26 years old and according to the law, im grade SSS pedo
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>>27262798
Pedophilia means an attraction to pre-pubescent children. You're a/an ephebophile/hebephile.
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>>27262798
ayy senpai keep it real with that shit
but srs how were you able to fuck a 10 year old?
did she come onto you?
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>>27258891
Making it should totally be illegal, but once it's been made, withholding it from pedos will only increase the demand for new videos to be made. If they have access to plenty of free stuff, they will be less likely to pay for someone to produce more videos.
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>>27262840
she's the little sister of the 15 year old and I've known all these girls since they were born. I'm the only guy they ever spend a lot of time with since boys nowadays are minecraft/pewdiepie fags and their dads are kind of neglectful and their brothers (which is how I met them) are assholes to them.

I remember how these girls looked like before puberty, and I wouldn't fuck them then. the 15/16 year olds went trough puberty when they were 12/13 and thats when I started wanting to fuck them. The 10 year old still hasn't had a growth spurt, but her hips have grown and she's starting to get bigger tits than her older sister.
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>>27258042
>lolicons tolerated
>not shotacon
I just need somewhere to fit in pls.
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>>27262937
Faggot pedophile
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>>27262933
This really sounds like nothing more than a fantasy. I mean you've just got these young girls willing to share you in your awesome harem. That makes no sense, girls are possessive and jealous.
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>>27262965
Fight me nigga
Shota are cute as fuck
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>>27262798
>according to the law, im grade SSS pedo
Well no since the law doesn't have any definition for pedophilia.
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>>27263004
the 16 year old doesnt know the other two sisters and she's the one im willing to drop if she gets possessive. the two sisters dont care that they're sharing me an frankly they dont have a say in it anyways.
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>>27258732
Because if it was legal there'd be a bigger demand for it, therefore more of it made and more children abused.

Pretty easy concept you sick fuck.
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>>27263172
>Because if it was legal there'd be a bigger demand for it
So you're saying that the average person is a pedo and the only think stopping them from looking up cp is because it's illegal?
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>playing grand theft auto doesn't mean you want to go out and bulldoze people with a car
>reading ol yeller doesn't mean you want to go shoot a dog
>watching saw doesn't mean you want to put bear traps on people's heads
>fapping to an image of konata izumi means you want to go to a kindergarten class and pick out a date
When will this idiotic meme die?
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>>27260067
>"Lolita complex" is now used in Japan to describe anyone from people attracted real 3 year olds to people who fap to early-pubescent anime girls.
Said no one ever.
Try actually learning something about the shit you're trying to spew.
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>>27263472
"Lolicon" in Japan does not differentiate between liking 3D and 2D.
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>>27258324
You fapped to kids, you're already fucked
Pot kettle black
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>liking hina makes you a lolican

bitch got tits like no tomorrow
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>>27258823
No it would be like saying legalizing heroin leads to less heroine abuse.which is factually accurate
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Oy vey, think of the imaginary children.
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>>27258042
4chan was created for the sole purpose of dicussing anime AS WELL AS the freedom to post lolis.
That's actually the most important part.
All of 4chan's original userbase came from the SA forums where loliposting is a permabannable offense. 4chan literally started off as a meme site to parody SA's dumb rules.
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