What do you think your life would be like without porn?
If you had 0 access to it. Would it force you to seek relief from the sexual frustration? Would you turn to violence? Rape?
I recently went a week and a half without it and I felt noticeably different. I still fapped, but I was totally focused on sex especially near the end of the week.
I was wound up like a spring. I felt agitated, aggressive. I started noticing more and more women as sexual objects.
When I got home and could look at porn again I spent 4 days binging on it just to ease the tension again. There's no way I have the self control to cut it out of my life. But it got me wondering what a life without porn would motivate me to do.
Maybe I'd be more desperate and my sexual frustration would overcome my anxiety, leading to dates and gfs...
>>27230148
Exactly the same because i dont watch porn, degenerate.
I'd still be autistic, but probably less lazy and more driven on work and self improvement. I was an autist before I ever had internet or fapped, I'd just read books or sit alone in the schoolyard digging for insects. But porn probably made it worse. I could have been some crazy inventor or researcher but instead I'm just an average STEMcuck wageslave engineer
id probably just jack off to my imagination like i did in my teens
but honestly the better question to ask is how would your life have been without any internet or computers
>>27230346
>>27230311
here and I would definitely be smarter and better read if not for the internet. As a kid I would read textbooks for fun during class instead of paying attention, and that stopped once I got my first laptop at 15
>>27230346
yeah I guess so..
But I fought boredom with other stuff like TV and reading. Porn or lackthereof is the only one that I've really felt change my mood and demeanor.
I'm totally addicted to it and see no hope of changing.
When I go camping for a few weeks I don't miss the internet, I miss porn.
I don't miss video games, I miss porn.
And it's not even so much the porn as it is just seeing an attractive woman.
I'd be more peaceful. I'd still be reclusive and wouldn't be a complete normalfag. But I'd be calmer, more relaxed, and probably have some productive hobby.
Same if I didn't have the internet.
If I had any guts I'd get rid of my computer, I wish I could break it apart right now. But I'm in too deep, I don't know how to live without it.
>>27230479
honestly I don't even start to miss porn at all unless it's been over 2 weeks, I just start writing out fantasies or using my imagination. But I miss 4chan after even a day without it and I think forums have changed my behavior even more
>>27230625
At least you aren't that guy on /lit/ who pretended to make threads on 4chan in a journal when he didn't have internet. Without internet I'd probably be better off cause books. However I'd probably have a hard time with loneliness and I love porn because I can't be arsed with women
>>27230539
That's the bitch of it, I couldn't function in this day and age without a computer. I'd fail the fuck out of school for starters.
And even if I got rid o that I still have my phone.
I've gone without internet more than most I imagine. My parents liked to get rid of it from time to time as I was growing up. Porn or something like it is surprisingly easy to find if you want to find it hard enough.
I got by on television, 2am girls gone wild commercials for example. Also movie channels would run sexy movies form time to time. Sports illustrated documentaries, hooters pageants, I remember FUSE used to have a show called pants off dance off, that was fucking amazing.
>>27230625
I tend to binge on 4chan for a few days and then leave until I hit rock bottom again. This is where I come when life has me down.
Porn on the other hand has me by the short hairs.
If somebody walked me into the forest and put me through a 3 month detox on it I have no idea what would happen. I've been looking at porn or at least some gratifying sexual imagery nearly every day for at least 15 years.
I can whack it to porn or without, but I notice that when I binge-watch porn it's very hard for me to get it up without porn. It's a physiological response that I don't seem to have any control over; watch porn --> no hard-on during the real thing. So if I know I'm going to be with a girl I'll abstain.
Porn also fucked with my standards something fierce. I can't accept women who are less than 8/10, while I myself pretty much have nothing to offer. I'm pretty sure if I got serious about not watching it I would be more connected to other human beings and less shallow and more sensual. But meh, it's too easy and too good and I don't give a fuck.
>>27230148
>Seek relief
I'm too much a spiritual, and shamanistic being to be persuaded in any manner to coerce with both porn and sexual frustration. My relief is one with the universe. Any and all frustration is expelled within minutes of reaching my destination as a person. So because I abstain from these desires and allow myself to fast, life as it is, is exactly how it would be in that situation.
I don't watch porn anymore, haven't in months. I could never go back, it ruins the brain and gives you ED.
Only vanilla images for me now.
Anyone else would be a violent rapist?
I know I would. After about 5 days, all I can think about is sex, I would fuck any girl, all I think about is getting them alone so I can hold them down and fuck them.
It is dangerous for me to go too long without fapping because I legitimately go insane.
>>27230872
Even before I had discovered the wonderful world of porn I had what you might call a "fetish" level attraction to really hot girls. I'm talking like kindergarten age here too.
WWE divas, baywatch girls, I was always obsessed with the hottest girls in school and tended to ignore the others.
If my standards are a product of anything I think it's anxiety. I've asked out 2 girls in my life and both of them have been drop dead gorgeous.
My desire for them seemed to overpower my fear of failure.
When it comes to an average girl the risk and fear of failure is greater than the reward in my eyes so I don't bother.
I really don't think porn has had much of an effect on what I find attractive. It's always been pretty faces and big tits for me since day one and it still is.
>>27231002
Interesting that you think it comes out of anxiety because I've had a massive problem with anxiety for most of my life. An obsession with hot women, too. But what's the connection between anxiety and 10/10s?
>>27231085
Fight-or-flight response I'm sure. 10/10 women drive the best in him while average woman leave him anxious. It wouldn't help if he got a positive response from the first two women.
>>27230923
I don't know if I'd take it that far.
But I do some desperate shit when I go without it that I end up regretting later.
I tried craigslist encounters once. I've dropped hundreds on strippers. I got scammed by a "sex text" thing on my phone years ago that billed to a family plan so I had to explain wtf that was about.
>>27231085
sort of a round about connection I guess. Not really a causal explanation. I have noticed that when my anxiety is lessened my standards tend to drop. On the other hand when my anxiety is running high my standards jump way up.
The attraction to super hot girls isn't that weird I suppose. I think it's just anxiety that intensifies it.
I tend to bat way above my league and see no problem with it. Back when I still had them, my normie friends would look at me like I was crazy. They seemed to have the inverse, they'd chase obtainable girls, but get nervous around the really hot ones.
Strangely, my anxiety actually drops when I'm interacting with a really hot girl.
Fuck all you porn luddites. I bet most of you are fucking shills of the anti porn agenda.
Before I had porn I just jerked it to my imagination. Now I fap with something visual to look at. I'm better off with porn because I've been introduced to things I never would have dreamed up of.
Despite my porn usage, I still managed to get several gfs. It has no real impact on my life aside from me now knowing exactly what kind of girl is my ideal aesthetically.
I have strong desires to rape even with porn, so I'd probably have raped a lot by now if not for porn.
I'd probably be better off too.
>>27230148
I've abstained from porn on and off for years. My longest abstention was 6 months. It didn't improve anything apart from the time I saved. It was mostly frustrating because my libido actually increased and I became more sensitive. Tame stuff like seeing a leggy woman in stockings or overhearing a girl with a cute voice made me instantly diamond hard. It was difficult to go about my daily life comfortably. I was not more motivated to get a gf, my hair trigger boner made me anxious around women.
Pretty much the same. When I was 18 I wanted to get laid so bad I pretty much starved and lifted, I guess my hormones did the real work, because I was cut and horny as fuck. Found one of the hottest insecurity to hot ratio girls in my school, and proceeded to manipulate he into having sex with me. Always look for the super insecure hot ones, they're great practice.
>>27230148
You would find porn some way or another, and if you couldn't, you would be living in such a different time period that the question becomes pointless.
A study showed that people who masturbate to porn reacts more to sexual stimuli than people who don't masturbate. Arguably most porn abuse comes out of addiction, not out of a high libido.
>>27231363
that sounds like me except I think my dick is broken because I have never been able to keep erections without stimulation.
Even when fapping to epic porn my dick won't stand up on it's own for more than a few seconds. It's like the one way valve in there doesn't work properly or something because I get erections just fine, but they don't stay long unless I'm lying in a kind of fetal position. I think my vein is fucked up or something.
anyway... seeing hot women out and about is super frustrating but also enjoyable. So I just get the sexual frustration/tension without having to worry about the boners.
>>27230148
did nofap for like 3 months once
at first it's as you describe
>start noticing more women
>you start finding random things really appealing, like a shape of a thigh on some middle aged woman
>gives you a little confidence booster
>seem to be able to focus on your goals more
>month later your libido drops off
>you don't give a shit anymore
>flashes of imagination don't even have an effect on you
>you're mentally resigned you're never getting laid
>get a little depressed
I think it's about moderation in my opinion. Don't overdo it and become a vegetable.
>>27231593
I can never make it more than 2 weeks into no fap. I've jacked off in some terrible places because I couldn't stand it anymore.
>>27230148
I started watching porn at 10 and of course it would have been better wayyyy better and I think a lot of people are starting to realize this the sexual experiences I had would have been much better and I would be been better at sex more sexually responsive and I wouldn't be were I am now I'd be more social I'd be better because I wouldn't have been so calm (in a bad way) I'd be more bored and it would force me into other things it's terrible especially when you're developing mentally sexually it really does rot your brain if I were you guys I'd stop not necessarily because morality (they're all trash anyway) but just because it's in your best interest to
>>27232914
I'd stop if I could. But the only thing stopping me is my willpower and that is nowhere near strong enough to cut it out.
It's impossible when it's only a click away. This is why I imagine not being able to access it at all even if I wanted to.
And it's not a big enough problem for me to hit rock bottom and see that I need to change or it's gonna kill me, like heroine or something. There's no intervention or come to jesus moment to be had here.
>>27230148
I'd fap less and use my imagination, which only kicks in when I've gone without for a few days and get horny. Apart from that, nothing would be different.
Porn isn't even good. It's nowhere close to real life - I don't mean like a scripted TV show isn't real so it can't be good, but it's just terrible.
>>27233131
what the fuck are you watching it for the story?
half the time I don't even turn the sound on I just admire their bodies.
>>27233186
I was saying how TV not being real doesn't make it bad, maybe it was a bad comparison. Just 20 minutes of "OHHH!! FUCK!!" - it's too easy to see how soulless it is.
I mostly jerk off to /e/ tier stuff. Does that count?
Lately I've been using pictures as inspiration and just jerk off using my imagination, because like, porn is bad and stuff. It's only been like 2 days consecutively, but I haven't really noticed any changes.
I would be one of those Japanese upskirt photo guys
>>27230890
Are you vibrating at a low frequency or something?
