why don't you lift? Chad didn't get buff without hardwork. If you want the grills mirring, you better put in some effort.
I've been lifting for 6 months and getting nowhere, but I'll keep at it.
>>27229127
I forget this dude's name but he is only 5'5 or something like that. I know he is manlet as fuck.
>>27229138
You gotta eat big to get big bro
>hardwork
And steroids
lifting is a 100% raw unfiltered meme
>>27229127
but Anon, she's not mirrin she has the flu.
>>27229181
I've got to lose weight first, though. I look really skinnyfat.
>>27229181
eating big requires lots of expensive meat and dietary products, as well as time to still work out when not dealign with homework or a job
Chads are from well to do parents who don't care if their children are book dumb
>>27229191
and steroids, which cost money and requires nepotism to gain access to
>>27229127
I want to be loved for who I am. What's the point of pretending to be someone I'm not, I would not be the one who gets the love, but a mask. I wouldn't fool anyone but myself.
>>27229138
Keep it up anon, took me around 1.5 years to really start getting noticeable gains. It will pay off eventually.
>>27229251
don't listen to this guy, this is how ugly people think
>>27229251
>being physically fit is pretending to be someone else
You don't suddenly change personalities when you are healthy.
>>27229251
so what you are saying is you are a loser who doesn't aspire to be something better than human waste.
>>27229127
I don't think my heart could handle steroids.
>>27229127
I see a lot of out of shape ugly motherfuckers with qt girlfriends. No, they aren't rich.
I dont see any physical changes from the last time I did weight training and I'm low on motivation to begin with
>>27229251
The quicker you realize that's not how the world works, the happier you will be.
>>27229251
Lifting doesn't make you anyone that you're not, it's entirely up to you what you make and perceive it as.
It's a great healthy lifestyle for everybody not just retarded bench bro's focused on smashing pussy.
>>27229429
focus on things you can actually control, instead of making excuses
>>27229251
There is no "you" in that sense. Arguably there is some sort of core personality but that doesn't mean that you cannot get fit and so on without "faking". Identifying with and holding onto some sort of victim-mentality makes nobody happy.
The normalfag advice of "fake it until you make it" is old and grating but it's also true to a large extent.
Lifting isn't the hard work. Lifting is God's gift to anger management/stress relief. Lifting lets you exert yourself without anything holding you back. Lifting reminds you what it feels like to have a physical body, what animalistic power you can achieve.
What's hard is dieting, that shit fucking sucks, yo.
>>27229127
>lifting for girls
please stop this meme
Most chad types I've met have been dyel types with very outgoing personality. Lifting to get girls is a misguided waste of time.
Steroids aren't some magical "easy-mode" enabling drug.
You actually have to workout even harder and longer to see significant results.
People who justify using them are usually insecure meatheads anyways.
muscles only serve as a multiplier for the already-attractive
if you're ugly like me, people just think you're "compensating"
>going to the gym
>going out in public at all
>I'd just be a robot with more work to do anyways
>>27229251
Except women don't (and won't) like you for you, they want what society tells them they should have. You don't need to be buff like the guy in order to find pussy, but you can't be some drooling slob that sits on his ass all day.
It's basically on par with lanklets bragging to manlets about how they can score pussy to easily. Women don't give two shits about the person they're fucking - they don't care about their needs, feelings, etc. they only care about the visual aspect of the person and how other people perceive said person. Women tells society they need a tall man, so they go after tall men. Society also tells women not to settle for losers like you, so I guess you're fucked.
>>27229765
Actually a study showed that "steroids" build more muscle together with no exercise, than no steroids coupled with vigorous exercise.
>>27229822
The whole "compensating" thing is a sort of insult produced by the intimidation that the person feels because of your fit body or career etc. Essentially they sense that you are making an effort to improve your status and they try to instinctively hamper your progress for their own gain. Remember this if someone tries to shit on you for your efforts.
>see fitness/lifting "transformation" from dweep to reasonably muscular
>invariably the person has started to dress like a douche with tattoos and shit
lol why does this happen
>>27229923
this is so fucking true fampai
why is there so little on fitness that doesn't require lifting shit tho. what if a person is too poor to go to the gym or afford a place where they can actually store equipment?
also why is almost everything written basically bullshit? it's more work to swift through the misinformation than it is to actually work out.
>>27230240
sift through*
>tfw too scared to go to a gym
I do bodyweight exercises and some dumbbell stuff at home but it's incredibly slow
I do, but I'm 5'7 so it won't change much except I'll be a bit healthier.
>>27229765
This is total bullshit. Steroids are literally magic. I've done several test/tren/deca cycles and I can not imagine ever lifting without them again.
>>27229127
>Get picked on my whole life for being a fat fuck
>Girls ignore me because of this
>Decide a little over a year ago to start lifting
>See myself get more defined.
>Hope this will help me attract a qt gf
>It fucking didn't
>The only attention I get now are from gay men and fat black women
Guess it just wasn't in the cards for me. Oh well, at least I like how I look in the mirror and I can actually find clothes that fit me now.
>>27229127
Why do you guys assume she finds him attractive? She's a reporter. She is suppose to smile.
>>27229127
>chads dad loved him
>chads dad encouraged him
or
>chad grew up in an unsafe enviroment
>instead of sperging, he adapted and overcame
they dont just train, they have the motivation to train in the first place
>>27230443
she bites her lip and stares longingly and seductively
>>27229138
Takes about a decade to get big natty you faggot.
>>27230576
What if that is just what she likes to do? You guys are too paranoid about these so called Chads.
>>27229251
Because no remotely attractive female wants a socially inept, skinny white boi who faps to hentai and can't even protect himself, much less his grill
I have actual creative interests that take up my time.
I don't live my life for other people.
What more reasons do you need?
Are you not getting enough of the attention you crave in person? Is that why you're turning to /r9k/ of all places seeking validation from others?
>>27229127
>implying it's not all about face
obviously, pic is outdate
>>27230136
>The whole "compensating" thing is a sort of insult produced by the intimidation that the person feels because of your fit body or career etc. Essentially they sense that you are making an effort to improve your status and they try to instinctively hamper your progress for their own gain. Remember this if someone tries to shit on you for your efforts.
boosting signal
>>27229251
Lifting changes who you are. Contrary to the opinions of those who don't lift, it takes a lot of hard work and dedication. More so than devoting yourself to study or an art or anything else.
>lifting for girls
>wanting girls
smdh normies
>>27231114
>More so than devoting yourself to study or an art or anything else.
Thanks, I needed a genuine laugh.
i do mma. i can beat the shit out of lifting meatheads
>>27229765
Steroids are LITERALLY magic. In some test, the group who only does steroids without exercise were exceeding muscle built compared to those exercising withouts steroids by more than double. Those who do both were gaining muscle at almost 10x the speed. Steroids are LITERAL magic, and once I finish my current bulk, and then a cut, I plan to start a cycle to unlock my true wizard powers.
>>27231153
enjoy your heart attack
>>27231135
number of "lifting meatheads" you beat up: 0
>>27231189
lifting meathead detected
People like you are retarded and normie scum attentionwhores.
Always in threads posting your bodies pretending to be sad.
Youre on the same level of guys talking in comment section on porn, or guys who ask for gfs/ skype/ kik / snapchat.
Fuck off with your dude bro yolo lift mentality
>>27231127
It takes 20x more effort to be a mediocre lifter than it does to be a mediocre artist. And no one can compare if a amazing lifter or an amazing artist works harder, since they require totally different things. But all you supposed intellectuals reading or learning an instrument or a craft for self-improve will never actually know what it means to push yourself. You never have to push yourself to get better in those things, they just happen by doing it. With lifting, the more you break your records the harder it gets to break it again.
>>27231175
Sure, if you are retarded or just have the worst genetics ever. The only steroid you need is testosterone, which is perfectly safe if you know what you are doing. There are some unavoidable, unwanted side effects like hair growth, smaller balls and lowered fertility, but all except the hair growth reverse naturally once you are off the cycle, and hair growth is simple to remove via lasers. Oh, unless you are a women, in which case test fucks your body up good and you can never completely recover.
>>27231255
>20x more effort to be a mediocre lifter than it does to be a mediocre artist
How? Lifting requires picking up weight, putting weight down, and repetition. That and time. Art and academics takes time, effort, creativity, and overcoming a massive learning curve.
>all you supposed intellectuals
Fear of anything that requires thought. Sounds about right.
>will never actually know what it means to push yourself
Outright lie.
>You never have to push yourself
Another outright lie
>they just happen by doing it
Biggest lie yet. I suppose becoming stronger while lifting and following a diet plan isn't "just happening by doing it"?
Good job, I guess. I replied to your bait.
>>27229822
That's like saying "I'll never be able to afford this ferrari so I might as well drive this shitty 96 nissan sentra with 180,000 miles on it" when in reality you could buy a 2013 jeep
>>27231255
Lets take drawing as an example, before i became mediocre i was drawing 5ish hours everyday a week, and im a fast learner. Are you that dedicated to your lifting? How does lifting take any skill at all? It takes will power, but so does anything else.
In drawing theres always room for improvement, even for the pros, how are they not pushing themselves? If nobody pushed themselves they wouldve stayed scrubs
>>27231374
>Art and academics takes time.
FTFY. Have you ever actually lifted before? Actually tried to push beyond your limit? Even at a beginner level, you can end up collapsed on the floor completely exhausted unable to even do a single rep more because your body literally cannot do any more. Unless you spend literal days practicing an art you will never come close to complete exhaustion. And mediocre artist don't need creativity, they just copy the road laid out by others. There is no effort in walking that path, only a pace decided by talent rather than effort.
>Biggest lie yet. I suppose becoming stronger while lifting and following a diet plan isn't "just happening by doing it"?
100kg never stops being 100kg. It never requires less energy to move (ok slightly as your form and CNS improves during the first stages). Your body gets stronger, you are able to push harder. But if you never push harder, you never lift heavier.
>>27231480
I'm done replying to your bait. Don't get too worked up meathead, all those roids aren't good for your heart.
>>27229138
How many days do you workout? If you're only working out 3 days a week of course you're not seeing anything. I work out every single day for 3 months and i'm seeing noticeable gains everyday. That or you're too hard on yourself. Also eat a lot of protein and shakes after workout etc.
I repeat, working out works. Use to be pudgy pale etc and i've been taking lifting seriously for the last 3 months. Last night friends and I picked up 2 girls on the beach and brought them home for sex/orgy. It works.
>>27231420
>In drawing theres always room for improvement, even for the pros, how are they not pushing themselves?
Because they are never forced to stop, not at the rate any person bar the truly exception work at. You can draw for 2 hours, 4 hours, 6 hours, and run out of "drawing strength". You stop because you get bored, not because you have to. A lifter working out, depending on how hard they are working, from a beginner to a pro, can push themselves to complete exhaustion or even injury within an hour. The truly driven might do that in half the time.
>Lets take drawing as an example, before i became mediocre i was drawing 5ish hours everyday a week, and im a fast learner. Are you that dedicated to your lifting? How does lifting take any skill at all? It takes will power, but so does anything else.
My lifting is usually 4-6 hours a week, 4x 1.5 hours sessions a week. During cuts it goes down about half but is replaced by an equal amount of cardio. It doesn't particularly take skill, but in that way is equal to all (barring stuff like genetic disorders or injury or disease n stuff). Anything that one person knows can easily be learnt by anyone else. and it takes more willpower than any non-physical activity bar none. See above for reasons.
>>27231480
Hello, I do both (actually art is how I make a living), lifting is not remotely close to being as difficult as perfecting an art. For the last year I've just been brainlessly following rippletoe and the year before that I was doing calisthenics in my bedroom. There is no comparison. The only common factor is that you have to be dedicated.
>>27230317
>not lifting primarily for gaining self discipline and satisfaction
>>27229127
I honestly have no desire to be a swole musclefrog, I would feel incredibly uncomfortable in my own skin and it would make my condition worse if anything.
>>27230240
you can save up for a power rack, barbell and weights, unless you are literally slum tier poor. in which case you have bigger problems
>>27231619
Clearly youre just speaking of physical effort.
Anyone can put out their best physical effort, when youre completely exhausted you cant continue and take a break.
Youre saying that no artform take nearly as much effort as lifting, not taking into account knowledge, mental exhaustion, time, techniques, muscle memory, thinking, concentration, creativity etc
Not sure if youre a troll or not but whatever
>>27229127
>you will never succ his dicc
>>27231399
if the nissan gets me where I need to go, why bother?
having a nice car will not make me happy. just like having a nice body will not make me happy.
>>27229218
I was in the same situation. Just so you know 10 pounds of muscle changes your appearance more than 20 pounds of fat if you're scrawny.
>>27232004
I can say with 99% certainty that you would enjoy having a nice body anon, it might not solve all your problems and make you a happy go lucky person, but you'd definitely be better off than you are right now, you've got nothing to lose except for maybe injuring your joints, but you're going to do that anyway sitting in a chair 15-16 hours a day for the rest of your life
>>27229251
thats beta logic anon
>>27229127
honestly the only reason why i wont go to the gym is because i dont want to be bullied for being such a skinnyfag.
does that happen at all?
>>27229127
I got a small dick. Would look weird with a small dick and huge body.
>>27231556
I've been doing SS for 3 months and have seen noticable gains.
>>27232443
Bro... LITERALLY no one in the gym will give a FUG.
Everyone is too busy concentrating on themselves- they don't have the time or feel the need to drop everything they're doing and bully you for being skinny.
Also, making fun of a fat or weak/ skinny guy at the gym is the same as making fun of a homeless guy at the job centre. It doesn't make sense to make fun of someone obviously in an environment to improve themselves.
If anything, it will be a positive experience. Most lifting bros will spot you, give you advice, converse etc if they can tell you are genuine.
The gym feel is one of the only feels in my life right now that makes me content. It's not even a meme- people are genuinely nicer at the gym. And even if you don't want to socialise, nobody will bother you if you look weak, so don't worry.
>>27232267
I used to be a ham, and now I'm in shape. I feel nothing. I feel the same. I still feel disgusting and unsightly. What will muscles do? Nothing.
>>27230576
If If you watch the interview, it's because he's talking about something sad. It has nothing to do with attraction, he's talking about something sad he uses as motivation and she makes a sad face.
>>27233697
thanks /fit/ bro
>>27229127
Not bad friend,
Instead of lifting maybe try learning to scrap i.e. bjj and mauy thai. I really want to try both, would be nice knowing (if you were actually good at either) you could beat up most people if you wanted to...
be gud 4 self esteem
>>27233966
Yeah, that's what I heard too. He says something sad and she's trying not to cry
>>27231135
Nice, are there heaps of douchebags at the gym you go to, or is not too bad?
Was thinking off starting mma?
>>27230240
>Body weight exercises
>Dumb Bells take up no room at all
>A milk crate or two or something similar for a bench if you really want to go full jew
It generally doesn't matter what you're doing so long as you're doing it right If yore starting dont get to involved in the science behind putting on mass. put some mucsle on and get basic form down before caring about shit like which variation of a row is best for developing you interior deltoid.
>started lifting 6 months ago
>decent gains
>catch flu a week ago
>bedridden for 5 days
>lose all my gains
welp
>>27230240
Misinformation in the 'fitness' industry is rampant.
It's basically because there's a million different snake oil salesmen each trying to catch enough suckers in their marketing net.
Just go with something simple that makes sense. You can't really go wrong with a decent barbell strength program and eating a lot of food.
>>27234381
usually the douche bags get weeded out it is a humbling sport
>>27229127
HAHAHHA HARDWORK, JUST BLAST TREN TO GET BIG LMAO
>>27229127
That woman isn't mirin' him, if I recall correctly he's talking about one of his family members or friends being in hospital.
>>27229127
Imagine if this was some dude who took a second to stare at a model's tits on live tv...he'd probably get fired
>>27229229
>eating big requires lots of expensive meat and dietary products
bullshit. whey is a cost-effective source of protein and meat isn't in any way, shape or form required to get big. find your maintenance and then add ~500 calories in good carbs/fats.
>as well as time to still work out when not dealign with homework or a job
unless you're working like 100 hours a week, then this is also bullshit. plenty of working/studying people find time to workout.
>and steroids, which cost money and requires nepotism to gain access to
steroids aren't required to get big.
>requires nepotism to gain access to
what?
i don't even work out, because i'm an unmotivated, lazy sack of shit, but at least i don't try to kid myself with nonsensical excuses.
>>27234373
she's not trying not to cry, lol. all she's doing is making a sympathetic face.
>>27234471
if you lost all of your gains in 5 days then you had practically nothing to begin with.
Yeah sure was lifting yesterday in military gym
>was doing high bench press.
>one hand fall to other side when i was about to put barbell down.
>instant shoulder luxure
>meds say have to stay 3 weeks in splint
>plus im in army that mean cant go out
>mfw going celebrate easters in army
Not going lift ever again
>The whole "compensating" thing is a sort of insult produced by the intimidation that the person feels because of your fit body or career etc.
lol. Nobody is intimidated by buff manlets or ugly fucks who lift became some gym membership shill from 4chan told them to
