I need some help /r9k/. I need you guys to judge if I am degenerate or not.
I was just doing a little bit of self reflection, and everything in my life is going well. I won't bore you with the details, but one of the things I'm happy about it is that I haven't watched porn in months.
I have been working out, losing weight quickly, and masturbating in a way that makes me feel very pure and happy. I collect these pictures of celebrities I like, only non-nude still images, and have certain fantasies about each one.
For images of this girl, I have fantasies of her being my sister, and loving me very much, so when she notices I may be sexually frustrated, she'll relieve me with her hands. She does this not out of dirty, attraction based romantic give and take relationships, but out of pure familial love. Unconditional love, that is why I fantasize about it, it feels very loving and pure.
Anyways, this isn't that bad, but I have an armpit fetish, so I imagine her telling me she loves me and jerking me gently, lovingly until I cum in her pits while she encourages me.
While I masturbate, I view the picture on the left, and when I am about to cum I switch over to a picture of her smiling, like the one on the right, so that she is clearly happy about helping her brother out, and loves me very much.
I do this because I do not like romantic relationships and their sex-based, give and take nature. I feel that this fantasy is very pure and loving.
I personally feel very pure and happy after doing this, and I have been advocating doing similar things to some anons on this board. However, my self reflection has made me question whether this is truly pure, or if fantasizing about armpit-incest is degenerate no matter the reason.
So I have created this poll and I hope you can help me sort out whether I should be feeling so pure after doing it.
http://strawpoll.me/7095603
Thank you anons.
This is the single most degenerate post I've ever read.
>>27188470
I suppose that does not bode well for me.
>>27188451
wow, kekd so hard anon.
thank you.
I should clarify, I'm not really concerned about /pol/'s definition of degeneracy, I'm just wondering if maybe I had rationalized my fantasies to myself more than I thought.
>>27188451
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>>27188577
I figured my post would entertain people, I really hope you guys get a good laugh out of it but please vote in the poll if you're going to stop by. Thanks friends.
It looks like I have one vote for pure right now, I want to say I did not vote in the poll, so it isn't biased in any way.
This is troubling
>>27188451
>my self reflection has made me question whether this is truly pure, or if fantasizing about armpit-incest is degenerate no matter the reason.
Holy KEK
You can't write this kind of autism
Going to bump this thread in the hopes of getting more actual responses and not just votes.
>>27188599
You meant pure right?
OP sounds clean to me.
I made you something OP, I hope you like it.
>>27188451
I think I saw a post from you in a different thread. Forget what the thread was though. Are you the one who said he fantasized about being daisy ridleys little brother and her helping you through your life or some shit and supporting you as her little brother. There had also been mention of her teasing you for your cumming face and vice versa after she jacks you off and after you "finger her to completion". This is all i remember from the post.
>>27188874
Kek'd, thanks anon, pretty funny.
As it stands I'm not looking too good.
>>27188898
Yeah I remember that one as well. Or maybe he posts his fucked up wincest fantasy all the time, not sure.
>>27188898
Yeah, well someone who looks like Daisy Ridley as my sister yes. But yeah that was me, posting in an obscure feels thread.
>>27188935
Thats right, i remember a reply saying "thats an obscure fucking feel m8". I replied with this image and some comment I forget cause I found it fucking hysterical.
>>27188926
I've only posted it twice before, both in obscure feels threads. No one seemed to think it was that odd, although I guess I didn't explain the whole method of masturbation.
I'm beginning to feel a little ashamed. I somehow rationalized this to myself as a very pure thing, but after writing all this out, it's clearly pretty out there.
>>27188935
That's it, dude. I thought you had to be trolling since it was so random, but now I see you're the real deal.
>>27188978
I remember at least 3 replies saying how hilarious that was due to it being so odd.
>>27188986
It was sort of an elaborate fantasy, but it was more about establishing the background of why we ended up relying on each other so much.
>>27189011
It was like two or three long fucking paragraphs dude
You're one fucked up hombre, OP.
>>27188999
Checked trips, nice anon.
I don't. Maybe I left the thread by that point.
It's amazing the bounds the human mind will go through. I now understand how trap lovers rationalize it being not gay.
>>27188978
>I'm beginning to feel a little ashamed. I somehow rationalized this to myself as a very pure thing
Nah dude, why would you be ashamed, we all have some weird kinks. Now, I wouldn't be feeling more "pure" or in any way better than anybody else because of your fetish if I was you.
Just enjoy, man.
>>27189042
I can tell you this much, if I also was to have a fantasy where my sister supported me through my life and ended up jacking me off and me fingering her occasionally, I would go with Daisy for the sister. She has a face for it for some reason.
>>27189020
Yeah, it was background. If I don't have a fleshed out background, it's very hard to convince myself it's real while masturbating. It seems more believable with a detailed reasoning why we ended up in that situation.
>>27189038
I see that now.
>>27189092
These autism levels are very high
>>27189076
Yeah, or Natalie Portman. There's something about those Star Wars chicks and incest, isn't it.
>>27189045
I suppose you're right.
It's just that it was something very new to me, as I quit porn a few months ago, so masturbating to non-nude still images seemed very vanilla. I guess I just didn't really factor in the fantasies themselves. But that feeling of purity was something very nice. I guess it was more of I could convince myself it was loving and sweet, and even after cumming I felt happy and positive.
Going to be difficult to have that now, since it was based not just on kinks or fetishes, but in my eyes unconditional love.
>>27189076
Thank you for the support anon. I agree. She just has that sweet, happy face I thought worked well.
>>27189124
I wouldn't know, I think anything after episode 3 is un original money grubbing trash (I post on /tv/ if it wasn't obvious).
>>27189109
Recently I've been suspecting that I may have Asperger's for several reasons. I guess this is just another thing to add to the list.
>>27189124
Sisterly faces is the best way I could put it.
I'm kind of bummed now friends. The poll is increasing in voters, and it looks like degenerate is decided upon.
>>27189156
I am pretty passionate about Star Wars and I can honestly say I really liked Ep 7. Of course it's money grubbing, but it had more heart to it than most movies these days. It reinvigorated that Star Wars magic for me. I am also a /tv/ regular.
>>27189172
Cheer up, fellow perv. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
No, seriously, if anything it's healthy for you to be in tune with your degenerate proclivities, so you don't end up like those repressed "religious" types that end up being molesters and stuff.
The thread only has 9 posters, but the poll has 31 voters.
If you voted pure, could you please explain why?
>>27189258
I suppose. It's just troublesome because the more I realize it is degenerate, the more it begins to feel purely sex-motivated, and in that it ruins the fantasy of it being a pure loving relationship.
Very troubling.
>>27189290
>feel purely sex-motivated
But do you think about this brother-sister relationship when you're not masturbating or about to? If so, what facets of the relationship you think of, other than her relieving you of your sexual frustrations or what not?
>However, my self reflection has made me question whether this is truly pure, or if fantasizing about armpit-incest is degenerate no matter the reason.
This is without a doubt the most autistic and degenerate sentence I've read. Holy kek.
>>27189374
I do, yes, that or my other familial fantasy. I guess that makes it a bit better, but I'm honestly more embarrassed to post about what those thoughts.I like to imagine she's holding me in bed and whispering me off to sleep, I stack my pillows in such a way that it feels like I'm lying my head on someone else and I whisper to myself pretending to be her. I have posted about this particular part twice before and each time there were anons telling me I shouldn't do this.
Whether or not that makes it more pure is not clear to me.
>>27189403
Kek, well I'm really glad that my post entertains. I love this board because some people can relate and others can just have a good laugh. It's a good place.
>>27189445
So, it kinda sounds like what you have built is an incest imaginary waifu sister thing. As other waifu relationships, they're not all about sex and not necessarily degenerate in nature.
However, it is highly autistic. And potentially a mental health hazard, but I'm not a waifu expert.
>>27189514
Eh, she's not really my waifu, I don't have one really. I don't know, maybe. Something similar maybe.
This thread is really shedding some light for me. It's connecting all these different habits I have, history, it's all coming together in a way I don't really like. I can now genuinely understand how a man can convince himself liking traps isn't gay. Rationalizations are very powerful.
>>27189577
>I can now genuinely understand how a man can convince himself liking traps isn't gay. Rationalizations are very powerful.
Dude, you're autistic but hilarious. Please keep posting.
I'm going to ask once again, to all the people voting but not posting, please give me your thoughts. If you're voting pure, why is that?
I would really appreciate more input.
>>27189577
>I can now genuinely understand how a man can convince himself liking traps isn't gay
I wish I'll get that kind of epiphany one day, anon. I still don't understand that one.
>>27188451
Tip on making strawpolls: You need to have a joke answer to weed out the responses from people who don't give a shit. People will vote in the poll without reading the post.
>>27189606
Heh, I'm flattered anon, really.
>>27189615
Hopefully you will. It's incredibly powerful. It's as though I've finally plugged in a cord I couldn't figure out how to for a long time. This is sort of an "Aha!" moment, in the worst way since it's about my incestuous armpit fantasies.
This thread first turned me off to Daisy Ridley in general. As the posts went on, however, I've beginning to wish there were nudes of her.
>>27189638
That's actually really smart, I considered it but I felt maybe it would just get everyone to skip the text and vote for that. I can guess though that a lot of people are voting without reading anyways.
>>27189677
There are, bruddah.
>>27189677
There is a picture of her topless in a morgue, but it's the only picture I didn't save of her because it kind of ruins any innocence if I see it in my folder.
>>27189661
I've been replying here for a while, and I just wanted to tell you that I share the armpit fetish. It's almost as if I have to lick my wife's armpits to get off.
And let's face it, we all enjoy some wincest every now and then. Certainly not with our own family members, just the idea of other people, of course.
These are the current results. Pure is making a little bit of a come back. I'm really confused as to why people are choosing it now though.
>>27189716
I'm glad I'm not the only one here with that fetish.
Right, I've never had an actual incestuous fantasy about my family members.
>>27189684
>>27189695
Thanks for the tip, anons. I do wish for better nudes than that autopsy scene thing, but something is much better than nothing.
>>27189766
No problem, enjoy my friend.
>>27189746
Oh, you're certainly not the only one. Speaking of >>27189638
http://hollywoodlife.com/2012/09/19/kristen-stewart-interview-robert-pattinson-sex-lick-armpits/
>>27189746
You'll get there soon enough if you keep pretending Daisy Ridley is your sister giving you armpitjobs.
>>27189788
I don't think so, I don't have any female family members. Grandmothers are both dead.
>>27189782
That makes me feel better.
>>27189782
>http://hollywoodlife.com/2012/09/19/kristen-stewart-interview-robert-pattinson-sex-lick-armpits/
Based Rob
>>27189788
Oh boy. Armpit fetish guy and Becky Lynch fag here.
Thanks for the keks in this post anons. :)
>>27189839
No problem anon, I'm glad it brought you some amusement.
>>27189808
shes so beautiful.
originalll
>>27189863
She really is. Not in the sisterly way at all, either.
OP I love your thread but I'm seeing some things that bother me.
>>27189445
>or my other familial fantasy
Which is?
>>27189797
>I don't have any female family. Both grandmothers are dead
The fact you say you have no female family but only specify that your grandmothers are dead and not your mother is bizarre.
What is going on in your mind bro?
Its fine as long as you understand its a fantasy and not something to center your life around
>>27189917
such beautiful eyes desu.
originall
>>27189963
I would never do that, basing your life around sex is just wrong. Thank you though anon.
>>27189962
Kek, those are things I would rather not get into.
>>27189962
>or my other familial fantasy
How the hell did I miss that one?
>>27189988
>Kek, those are things I would rather not get into.
Come on, dude, you're among friends here.
>>27189917
I wouldn't mind her being my sister, if you get what I mean.
>>27189988
If you visit any kind of online forum where people open up about their fetishes and fantasies(or just go to fucking /d/) you will see there is a large number of "normal" people with all sorts of weird fetishes,its how adults are
>>27189988
You anonymous armpit fucker. Tell us your secrets while we still have armpits to post.
>>27189808
I need some stinky kstew pits in my life
>>27189993
>>27190008
>>27190035
I don't know anons. I'm nervous about doing that. Some anons already recognized even just small excerpts of my feels:
>>27188898
>>27188926
If I explain the rest the feels might be recognized and people would connect the dots and know that all of these things come from the same person. I just don't want to become as recognizable as a tripfaggot.
>>27190034
They're not really fetishes, at least not all of them.
>>27190078
>Some anons already recognized even just small excerpts of my feels
Dude, it's because it was just so memorable. The attention to detail, the randomness of the scenario, so early in a weird feels thread, it was the perfect storm.
What are the chances of your other feels posts having the same impact?
>>27190117
Heh, well I am glad people appreciate the detail.
>What are the chances of your other feels posts having the same impact?
I suppose you're right. I was surprised that anyone remembered that one in the first place.
Alright, I will explain, give me a minute.
>>27190035
Don't worry we won't run out of armpits.
hey OP, im also an armpit fetishist and and often do similar things where I imagine people as close friends helping me out, not necessarily family. I find my fetish disgusting and it makes me want to kill myself. send help
Be prepared for some autism here.
>other familial fantasy
I have never seen a Jurassic park movie, but a few months back I was greeted with a picture of this woman, who is an aunt in the new Jurassic World movie. People affectionately refer to her as auntyfu. Much like when I saw a sister in Daisy, I saw, more than an aunt, a mother in auntyfu. She just had the perfect motherly look to her. This was important to me, because to answer the other question >>27189962 presented, I don't really count my mother as family because she was rarely around growing up.My dad divorced her when I was very, very little because she was a raging alcoholic and got full custody of me. He raised me very well, but I always have felt a hole. It grew as I aged. It wasn't so much that she was absent, it was that she was not good to me when I did see her. She blew smoke in my face and don't me she didn't care about me while drunk, she drove with me in the car while hammered once, which she went to prison for cause she hit another car, things were never good. After a while I just started filling the hole with "waifus", all faded away quickly except for when these two fantasies developed in my mind, for auntyfu and for Daisy, mother and sister respectively. The fact that the love is pure and unconditional is very important to me because it means they won't leave me. They can't, we are connected by blood and it means something to them. The other familial fantasy is doing the same self-snuggling as with Daisy, but with auntyfu as my mother while I talk to myself as her. I also masturbate to her in the same way as Daisy, you can imagine what I mean with pic related. So I also have a mother-son incest armpit fetish. I enjoy the Daisy fantasy more because it's easier to believe and less connected to real life events.
I will probably have to change all of my filenames now.
Please forgive me for the stupid melodramatic story.
>>27190194
I don't know what to tell you family, I don't think it's really that bad. Like the other anon said, you can embrace it. Most everyone has some sort of fucked up fantasy, at least one.
Masturbating to still images of celebs is so much better than porn imho.
>>27190299
I agree, porn was really awful for my brain and gave me ED for a while until I quit.
>>27190282
i let my fantasy effect my real life. I ask my close female friend to send me pictures of her armpits on a frequent basis. every time i think of what she thinks of me i get a panic attack and honestly consider suicide. i dont know what to do. i cant stop
>>27190331
Huh, I don't know anon. I would recommend serious therapy if it's effecting you that badly. You should apologize to your friend and tell her you have a problem. It will be okay.
>>27190264
This uh, isn't what I was expecting.
>>27190264
I don't want to sound like a queer or nothin but you're my favorite poster on /r9k/. just felt like saying that since maybe we'll all get lucky and be wiped out by aliens in our sleep.
>>27190371
I figured kek, I warned you.
>>27190373
Well thank you friend. I appreciate your kindness very much.
>>27190264
I see, that's pretty interesting. You seem to be almost completely aware of where your fetishes and fantasies come from. Even if you sound rather young, you seem to have self awareness beyond most people here.
I wouldn't be ashamed in the least of your fantasies, anon, just don't lose perspective of what they are, how they came to be, and what place they have. I say that since, as you're surely aware, those issues might have an impact in future relationships with women if not dealt with properly. I believe the proper way does not involve feeling ashamed at all.
And now I think I understand where this "purity" idea was coming from, it's how important the "unconditional love" part is to the whole fantasy. How can love be degenerate, you ask? It's a fetish for love, pure, unadulterated love, the kind of love that's only possible with those familial relationships.
Love and lust seem to be intertwined in our minds, anon. Enough feeling of love can make our hormones fire and our genitalia to feel funny.
>>27190406
I appreciate that anon, very much.
I'm not ashamed, definitely embarrassed a bit, but shame is different from embarrassment. I definitely notice an impact on my female relationships, in that they don't exist, and on all my relationships, in that I only have one friend, who has been my friend all my life.
>It's a fetish for love, pure, unadulterated love, the kind of love that's only possible with those familial relationships.
I'm really glad someone else can understand that. It took me a little while to understand it myself.
>Love and lust seem to be intertwined in our minds, anon. Enough feeling of love can make our hormones fire and our genitalia to feel funny.
Heh, well I'm glad someone can relate and understand. It's interesting to read back through this thread and see it all slowly coming together. It's a hard pill to swallow and I have never exposed the full situation before, not with all of these components.
Thanks for your kindness anon.
This thread went from a very humorous original post to an incredibly in depth psych profile of OP.
What a journey
>>27190264
I would like to change my vote to "Pure"
>>27190482
Final thought, do you write at all, OP?
You seem to have the kind of tortured soul and women abandonment issues that made Edgar Allan Poe such an awesome writer.
>>27190580
I do write quite a lot. Usually just very, very short stories, or greentexts. Nothing that's actually good, just things to get feelings out.
I've already exposed myself very heavily, so I will post the final element to this mess. I collected all of the greentexts I wrote to cope with not having a mother into a Pastebin. I changed the name to Chastain and contributed it to the mommyfu threads on /hr/.
I will stick around in the thread and talk to anons if anyone is interested, but consider this my parting gift.
http://pastebin.com/VmixpUt7
>>27190516
Tell me about it. I ended up formulating theories in my head, I think now I understand the whole incest fetish thing, and the scary reasons why it doesn't really work with our own family members.
>>27190620
I appreciate it, OP. I've gotten more out of this thread than any other in the entirety of my stay in this hell hole of a board.
And also consider my vote changed to "pure" as well, for the reasons I gave here >>27190406
>>27190692
I'm flattered anon, really.
>consider my vote change to "pure" as well
Kek, thanks m8.
Wish you the best.
Just to let you guys know, I have screencapped the whole thread and I will work on making a collage, I don't want to forget this thread. It might take a while because this is a huge thread, but I'll have it done tomorrow or the next day.
Thank you for this wild ride OP.
>>27190740
I'm glad you liked it anon, I don't know if I don't want to be forgotten but if you really want to, it would be neat.
>>27190620
>have Mommyfu Chastain
>it's night time
>got my Samurai Jack playing on the TV
>she opens the door and walks to the bed
>kisses me on the head, I reach up and hug, she hugs me back
>"Goodnight sweetheart, you sleep well okay? I love you."
>m-mommy you forgot
>she smiles, pulls my covers down, pulls up my shirt
>blows a raspberry on my tummy, I giggle which makes her giggle
>she sighs a contented sigh, looks me in the eyes
>"Hmm, I think you forgot something too honey."
>w-wha-
>she puts her armpit over my face and says
>"Stinky pit attack!"
>i giggle and laugh, she pulls away laughing
>hug one more time
>she kisses me on the head one more time
>walks over to my door, turns off the light, and walks out
>before shutting the door, she leans in
>"Goodnight buddy, sweet dreams."
>goodnight mommy, I love you!
>she shuts the door gently, turns the hallway light off, I hear her footsteps as she walks back upstairs
She would then go upstairs and maybe have a couple of adult drinks (liquor) before going to bed.
It would just be mommy and me, happy as can be.Mommy's little boy, her pride and joy.
H-how deep does the rabbit hole go...?
>>27190799
Kek... it goes deep anon. It goes deep.
What the fuck is going on in this thread? Can someone tl;dr?
>>27189092
This is the kind of guy who would buy $7K sex dolls
>>27190921
Just some pure pitpussy love
>>27191019
Just finished reading
This is the most emotionally exhausting thread I've ever seen. This is an experience more than anything. I laughed, I cried, etc.
Jesus
>>27188451
>any lewd thoughts relating to your waifu/celebrities
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