Why do people vote against there better interest? Do you hate brown people that much that you would be willing to vote in someone that would make your life worse?
I hope every neet welfare fag is forced to work Mexican jobs for a dollar an hour for corporate assholes
How do you know he will make it worse ? How do you know someone else will make it better?
>>27172317
The man has no experiance in goverment, better the devil you know.
>>27172341
That's true. Romney Kasich then?
>>27172317
he will most likely get gut welfare and fore people into work like I stated
>>27172370
I've never been on welfare.
>>27172369
Don't care honestly, not an Americuck
>>27172370
> he will most likely get gut welfare and fore people into work like I stated
And this is great. Less budget on welfare, more budget on something useful.
>>27172296
I'd happily work a shit job if it means the Mexcrement leaves
>>27172407
>something useful
Like Trump signs
Trump actually has my best interest in mind, senpai. Plus Trump doesn't hate brown people, that's the Jew media's meme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI9MCvK2MGs
he posts on /pol/
>>27172296
>a nation you can be proud of
>a life worth trying for
or
>free shit
>diversity
>>27172296
Trump isnt against my interests bernie"whites cant be poor" sanders is.
The truth is even low-to-no income people like me will be voting for Trump. Your post demonstrates exactly the issue with so many Americans.
>why don't you vote for someone who will give you everything for free out of other peoples' pockets?
Sure, it benefits me, and plenty of other people here. But I think I speak for most people here when I say it's about values, it's about how we want the nation to be.
I don't want to be a socialist country. I want to believe in the American Dream. I want to know that I can work hard, make a lot of money, and that money is mine, not someone else's who decided to not work at all and vote Democrat.
It's a destruction of what the Founding Fathers wanted, and it's a fundamental difference between conservatives and liberal, at least generally- liberals believe themselves to be entitled to other people's spoils, while conservatives look at someone's riches and hope to become them some day.
It's voting on immediate self-benefit vs. voting on principles and the future.
>>27172407
You mean his wall across mexico that the mexicans WILL NOT pay for?
You mean larger military that is literally bigger than the 2nd to 16th largest militaries combined?
Welfare is less than 5% of the total budget and actually stimulates the economy by giving broke as fuck people money for food, housing, and power. The United States citizens pay nearly ten percent more overall in taxes than the fucking Eurofags and yet get even less back from the government.
Please explain how anything Trump is doing is going to be useful to anyone?
>>27172513
Why don't these broke as fuck people go find themselves a job? You should earn your food if you want to eat.
>>27172513
>how will making people work (i.e. produce capital) stimulate the economy?
come on man
>>27172456
The American dream is a meme right now, if you want a real opportunity then you need to even the playing field. You have 90% of the wealth being held by 1% of the people and don't even pay taxes on it by offshore bank accounts. I agree with your belief of values but in order to make them a reality there needs to be more regulation on the giants to let the little guys earn something.
The current system isn't fair because the big corporations have broken it. Once it gets fixed yeah, it'd be great for someone to work hard and make their way into the big leagues. But right now it simply it's very unlikely for it to happen from pure hard work. We need to reward hard work but as of now it's all based on a gamble.
>>27172576
You're right, but conservatism is not corporatism, and liberalism is most definitely not the answer. Liberalism is what brought us the extremely pro-corporate current Obamacare plan. Larger government during times of heavy corporate control just lead to programs founded on the backs of corporations, keeping them alive and well.
>>27172513
Jesus why are all of you libtards so uninformed?
Welfare, social security, and Medicare make up the largest portions of the budget
>>27172317
Because he's gonna cut taxes for the people who don't need it, raise military spending for no reason, and cut programs for the poorest who spend the highest percentage of their income.
>>27172296
I hate Trump, but not as much as I hate feminists. I actually like Bernie a lot more, but he would just stroke feminists cock by doing whatever the fuck they want.
same ctjydsxfcghjb
>>27172620
Ok, look at Obama did he cut taxes for us?
>>27172296
Voting for him is in my better interest. I work a minimum wagekek job, and you can bet your sorry sweet asshole that there are fifty mexicans lined up outside our door whenever a 'help wanted' sign is put up. I'd love an opportunity to get to argue for a raise without getting laughed in my face.
>OP doesn't know about Big Don's tax plan
lol family
>>27172296
Every vote this election is a troll vote. Bernie is the least troll.
>>27172296
>Do you hate brown people that much that you would be willing to vote in someone that would make your life worse?
Even though for me, Trump is in my interests, the awnser is still yes
>>27172697
Are you a rich old man? Otherwise I doubt he has any of your interests at heart
>>27172642
Who is us?
>>27172714
>literally wants to close Wall Street loopholes for the majority of tax income
>if you make less than $25,000 you don't have to pay anything in taxes
>none of your interests at heart
??????
>>27172714
I'm a white man, so I'd say its in my interests. Also in education so I'll be trying to get a job eventually. I don't see how a commie trying to get as many donations as he can before his campaign dies, or Shillary, have my interests any closer to their hearts my friend.
>>27172296
How would he make our lives worse? Do you even listen to Donald Trump? Donald Trump will deport Mexicans who come to this country AND TAKE OUR WEALTH THROUGH WORKING HERE AND SEND IT BACK TO MEXICO. This increase wealth inequality because Mexicans aren't buying products here. Do you understand? He wants to focuses on putting tougher tariffs on outside goods which will encourage jobs to come back to America. This will help the poor with these jobs.
What does Bernie Sanders want to do?
Destroy the economy by making college free, healthcare free(take in mind doctors are paid like 500k a year in America and they are the most expensive in the world), make black criminals immune to police, legalize illegal immigrants will just devalue U.S citizenship more and destroy our culture.
Please see the error of your ways. You lack common sense, please gain wisdom, please gain knowledge.
>>27172620
The lowest income bracket would pay 0% in income tax under Trump's plan
>>27172606
Because they don't actually learn. They regurgitate memes.
>>27172317
this is not an argument for voting for this retard
>le if he hasnt shared any of his policies, then le he technically has never been wrong meme :^)
you are among the dumbest of the dumb, my friend.
>>27172732
Why not vote Bernie at that rate? And his tax plan would fuck us, while giving the rich even bigger tax cuts. You get crumbs while they get steak and your praising the thought. Go read the tax policy center PDF on it
>>27172735
Bernie would like to not let you get cucked in college. And Trump doesn't give a shit if you're white if you currently happen to be a poorfag
How is it in my long term interest to become a minority in my own country?
>>27172767
Because I don't want tax rates for everyone to start at 50% and progress as income brackets raise.
I don't think I'm entitled to everything for free.
>>27172762
>Don't ask me how Trump will make everything worse he just will OK? GOD!
>>27172767
>Bernie would like to not let you get cucked in college.
But there's no rational reason to allow people to study humanities degrees or social science degrees for free dude.
>>27172767
>why not vote for Bernie? And his tax plan would fuck us
Holy shit you cucks don't even try anymore, take your shilling elsewhere.
>A commie who's promising free shit will have a better tax plan
how deluded are you?
>Would not let you get cucked in college
He would make the degree i've already put thousands into worthless. Trump may not care, but Bernie actively dislikes me, thinks I don't know what its like to be poor, and thinks I need to apoligize for slavery. No thanks kike.
>>27172783
>don't ask me how Bernie will pay for everything, he just will OK? GOD!
>while we're at it, don't ask how raising minimum wage will increase employment
>>27172296
33 year old poorfag here. Never received a dime from the government. Received thousands of dimes from evil rich people.
>>27172606
I don't think he's referring to welfare as an umbrella term for ridic amounts of money we spend on old people to live longer for no reason, rather the welfare that people complain about the most that goes to the poor (TANF/SNAP).
>>27172781
But Bernie's tax plan doesn't significantly increase your taxes, anon. And healthcare/education are rights in many other first world countries. Is clean water and breathable air also an entitlement?
>>27172786
>implying that's what most would do
Should schools with big performance arts sections not get public funding because some kids like drama club? An educated society is a good thing
>>27172805
What you call free shit developed countries call human rights. And no one should be able to get a degree because you have one? You're against him because you're against the idea of your tax dollars helping people instead of corporations
>>27172829
>Should schools with big performance arts sections not get public funding because some kids like drama club? An educated society is a good thing
It's a gigantic public expense to send people to college to study things like History and Philosophy dude, and this is coming from someone who actually respects aspects of the (non-politicized) humanities.
Engineers and scientists are the people who create wealth in a society, and jobs. You're throwing billions upon billions into a black hole if you want to send every American to college for free to study any old subject.
>>27172829
>doesn't significantly increase my taxes
But it does increase my taxes, so that retarded know it alls can go and study worthless humanities for free.
>is clean water and breathable air also an entitlement
Not air, but I pay for water, and so do you if you're not underageb& which I suspect you are.
>>27172829
>rights
Nice try kike, but I'm not trading my actual rights (read: Gun rights) to give Pajeet, Raheed, and Tyrone free healthcare and college, sorry senpai. Also, he would increase taxes on everyone but the parasite class, so no, he wouldn't help me.
Free shit is not a right, its as simple as that. The government doesn't have to buy your gun for you, they just have to allow you to purchase one legally. Same with health care and education. Sorry I don't agree with your communist collective.
>No one should be able to get a degree because you have one?
Did you fail to read my post, or comprehend it? Anyone can get a degree dipshit, its just not my job to pay for it. And I'm not going to pay for something that devalues my own investment, sorry I'm not cucked to the core
>>27172865
More educated societies do better in almost all aspects. You're implying that most college students will study gender studies or other related shit when that's not true. There will still be cs and engineering majors, just coming out with a degree and far less debt
>>27172887
>not my job to pay for it
If you don't pay taxes that's true
![[teleports behind you].png](https://i.imgur.com/swyIm3z.png "[teleports behind you].png")
>>27172912
>my taxes are required to go to health care and college tuitions
You seem to misunderstand exactly what I'm voting against my friend. By voting against these things, they are, and will remain, not my fucking job to pay for.
I know I'm being strung along, but I needed to vent anyways
>>27172912
>You're implying that most college students will study gender studies or other related shit when that's not true.
Ok, then make it degree-dependent, if we're agreed that some degrees do not help create wealth.
>educated societies do better
Correction:
>wealthier societies allow people to study subjects that are superfluous to productivity
Do you think if you went back to the Middle Ages and taught everyone gender studies but nothing about modern engineering, that they'd suddenly get cars and planes?
>>27172296
>Where best interest?
>There best interest!
>>27172605
Liberals had nothing to do with obamacare's corporatism. We wanted single payer like every other advanced nation. Medicare For All, easy as that. But because of the obstruction in congress we could only get warmed over shit from 90s era Heritage Foundation
I don't have the energy to "hate" brown people, but I'd prefer to not be around them.
>>27173065
As an immigrant to the US, I vastly prefer the American system over my old European "free" one. First of all I pay much less for it because of private insurance through my company. Secondly the wait times for me under the other system were terrible. Like 2 months to get an appointment in some places.
Not to mention the superior care you get in the US.
>>27172829
>Bernies tax plan doesn't significantly increase taxes
Daily reminder that this is only considering his health care proposals and not "free" college
>>27172642
My taxes went down under his administration, yes, as did my healthcare costs.
>>27172296
You have to go back Pedro.
>>27173108
You're paying more on average. Your employer is "paying" for it but if they didn't have to they could afford to give you more cash compensation.
Insurance companies are a big bunch of assholes. They take your money on schedule but it's always in their best interest to keep it and let you die. Their whole business model is based on paying back as little as they can possibly get away with. And they're afraid of government competition even though FedEx is doing fine vs the post office and private schools are doing fine vs public. Fuck them forever.
>>27173108
>Secondly the wait times for me under the other system were terrible. Like 2 months to get an appointment in some places.
I live in America and have to wait over 3 months to use the dentist
>best tax plan for middle n lower classes out of all candidates
>b-b-but he's bad for poor people and minorities doing shit work! He wants to free up loads of jobs for lower and lower-mid classes by deporting illegals! Think of the poor little illegal immigrants!!!!
Fuck off op
>>27172296
>Do you hate brown people that much that you would be willing to vote in someone that would make your life worse?
Absolutely. Their huge lips, garbage hair, and loud and obnoxious behavior are extremely repugnant and I don't want to suffer their presence.
The consistent ability to get working class voters to vote against their best interests is the Republican parties greatest achievement
>>27172622
Nah Bernie won't give a shit once the back lash rails in. Clinton is the femwhale enabler we need to stop.
