>tfw will look like this with some work, my normie friends even agree
who aspiring chad here?
>>27160800
>Some work
Yeah some isn't the right word here. It more like constant work.
>>27160800
Not without steroids op. You can either be big ie built but fat. Or lean ie small but ripped. You can't be both naturally.
Being ripped doesnt make you chad.
>>27160951
he's not that big though. i can easily put away 10,000 calories in a day and have, steroids aren't necessary
>>27161349
You're missing my point. Yes you can be big naturally by eating 10000 a day but you'll have zero muscle definition without the use of steroids. That dude is big and lean which requires steroids
>>27161437
>That dude is big and lean which requires steroids
you lack a fundamental understanding of thermodynamics, friend. being lean requires only that you have low body fat, steroids are for gaining mass
He's not even that lean
>>27161512
this. he's hardly vascular at all
>>27161475
Ok I'll bite the bait. What part of BIG or LEAN do you not understand? You can only choose one without the use of steroids and no steroids can you used to cut or bulk depending on the steroid
>>27161544
but that's wrong entirely
>>27160800
>my friends
>thinks he's a robot
eat shit and fuck outta our board faggot
>>27160800
>tfw you just want to be an emaciated stick figure but you live with your mom and she would be worried
I don't even deserve someone who cares about me that much
But still, wish I could go balls to the wall ana for a bit
>>27161610
i never claimed to be a robot. i'll stream my suicide if i ever identify with you
>>27161649
then fuck off, fatty
>>27161565
Please refer to my chart I posted earlier. You can not claim numbers higher than those without the use of steroids. If your numbers are higher than those listed you are not lean unless you are taking steroids.
>>27161668
make me, spergo
>>27161672
your chart sucks
plan on getting back there. i use to be able to lift things but can't curl 28lb dumb bell. i got a gut now. improvements.
>>27161705
If my chart sucks please feel free to prove it wrong I'll wait. Oh wait you can't and you're just b8ing on a Japanese origami website
>>27161742
curling is meme tier anyway. focus on your shoulders and forearms
>>27161750
>inb4 a few months from now you accuse me of roiding
>>27161783
Trust me anon I won't lol. In a few months of eating 10k cal a day you'll just be a massive fatass no matter how much you lift if you actually remain natural that is. Go ahead and waste your time
>>27160892
> constant work
i dont think people realize that to keep the muscle mass you've got to keep eating/training..
>>27161849
i love it when people say i can't do shit.
you're going to witness human discipline at its finest
>>27161349
the fuck? your arms look tiny as fuck
>>27161976
i'm one of the lucky few who didn't fall for the biceps meme
>>27161935
What I'm saying has nothing to do with discipline. It's physically impossible without the use of gear. More power to you anon go be the best you can be you just don't seem to understand your limitations. I'm actually a personal trainer who's been lifting for ten years and even though you've been baiting me hard I'd be glad to actually help you form a proper diet and routine. If you'd want
