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I want to be a feminist
It feels right and that it's the right thing to do
But I'm not because it doesn't make sense to me
Someone red pill me on popular feminism, preferably with documentation and studies

I don't understand the wage gap:
If a woman makes 78c on the males dollar, how is this calculated, and is there a possibility that because there are simply more males in a given field that the chances of the range of salaries could be larger?
Or, is the data also examining female dominated fields and the average for males is still higher?

I don't understand 3rd wave feminism:
Why do people say feminism helps males when feminism is literally the advocacy and belief in the advancement of womens' rights and equality to males? To specify, I don't mean that society will benefit if women are equal to men (which I already believe), I mean- If I'm a male who is a minority, does my male privilege disappear because simply because everything I would have gained by being male is lost by not being the right color?
Studies have shown that people (males in particular) who aren't tall, in shape, or attractive in general don't get treated as well as people (or males) who are, how does feminism change this when it doesn't seem to be based on anything that results from the limitation of female rights?


I don't understand privilege:
Is there an absolute presence of privilege or can it actually be based a person's actual effect on his bearings?
Other than the example with the male minority, does local privilege exist? Does a male's gender mean he's more likely to succeed in a relative system where females answer to more females, such as a female owned female led company, just because on a global scale men do better? Or is privilege just a status that people assign to others based on their apparent and relative advantage, to specify, is a person privileged simply because they are male and powerful people are also male?
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Stop being a fucking retard. Feminism isn't a fucking religion. It's just a bunch of people whining about problems that don't exist
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>>27152503
ROSTIE WHORES LEAVE MY FUCKNG BOARD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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TL;DR kill yourself failed normalfag
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>>27152522
This is an example of what I don't want in the thread
If you don't consider yourself a feminist, why would you respond
Why would you ask the average bald person on hair style advice instead of a hair stylist
Why would you ask an atheist about religion instead of a monk?
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this should sum it up nicely
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>>27152555
So obviously you didn't graduate highschool did you?

If you don't want to hear all sides of an argument, then you should just kill yourself. You're about as intellectually sturdy as a teenage girl
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if you're not from a third world country then fuck off. there is no major male privilege in first world places
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>>27152555
>Fuck off roastie. You don't go somewhere feminism doesn't belong, so why come here?
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got the hell off of rk9. You can't be a bot and a feminist.
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>>27152586
>If you don't want to hear all sides of an argument, then you should just kill yourself
Feminism isn't an argument, retard
What you're arguing are relevant issues, and what you literally said was "it's a bunch of people whining about problems that don't exist"

Nice argument, faggot

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>>27152632
pls leve
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>>27152672
>Feminism isn't an argument, retard
It is when you ask "should I be a feminist?" you cockgobbler
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>>27152578
>the source for information is just a link to the website where that is literally the same thing as the image
this is another thing I didn't want
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>>27152716
but I didn't ask that, asswhore
of all the questions that I asked, "should I be a feminist?" was not one of them
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>>27152720
ok then faggot, since you're too lazy to google statistics here's a general one with sources
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>>27152503
To provide a serious response:

Feminism as it stands today is a direct result of entitlement culture. As the government continues to increase its distribution of benefits in the form of welfare, medicaid, social security, etc., our society as a whole believes that it's entitled to a living wage, good living conditions, and other positive aspects of life that the working man labors to maintain.
Feminists have treated this culture as a justification for their entitlement to a supposed equality with men. These low-intelligence women believe that helping the poor and helping the oppressed are the same thing. They are not intelligent to realize that they are not actually oppressed. Whenever anyone tells them this, they simply respond with buzzwords such as "sexism" and "patriarchy," even though the system we have contains neither of those entities.
The wage gap that's often cited is, in reality, an aggregation of all of the salaries earned by men and women in the United States, and doesn't take into account the fact that men work longer hours, work more dangerous jobs, are more likely to pursue higher positions, and are more likely to go into higher-paying fields of education such as engineering and business. When you take these factors into account, the wage gap shrinks to almost nothing.
The idea of privilege is just another means of justifying the cause of 3rd-wave feminism. By portraying our culture as biased towards men, and portraying men as being unfairly advantaged from birth, feminists attempt to diminish the accomplishments of men, and provide further justification for their supposed entitlement to "gender equality." The idea of male privilege is folly, however, considering that companies are now actively looking for solely women to fill STEM roles, and far more women go to college than men.

TL;DR The feminism of today is stupid women telling everyone to give them things to make them "equal."
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>>27152720
>>27152730
Here you go you fucking child. I'm going to basically spoonfeed you here

https://youtu.be/ZSG4xqjDqnM?t=4m14s

The wage gap does not exist and it is really 1 cent difference that is completely unexplained. His sources are in the description
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>>27152754
But that doesn't directly answer any of my questions
I never asked whether or not male privilege exists, I asked how is it determined, which is why someone who doesn't believe that male privilege exists wouldn't be able to answer the question
You don't even have an argument
You aren't even arguing against anything that I presented
You're just posting literally anything that seems relevant instead of answering the questions, literally any of them, that I asked in the OP
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>>27152775
I want a feminism to explain feminism to me
The wage gap does exist, but it all comes down to how it is determined, how you average everything together
which is why there are numbers like 77%, 84%, and the fallacious 99% which hasn't been backed by literally any study other than some asshole on youtube you deem to be a "source of information"

>>27152762
Thank you for the opinion, but that answers literally none of my questions
You are just providing your opinion on why you think there shouldn't be those things, not how feminists determine those things
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>>27152797
>I asked how is it determined
what the fuck are you even talking about? are you being retarded on purpose?
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>>27152797
The idea of privilege is flawed because it assumes that every single person with one trait is in the same way in life. The only real privilege is money. Arguing about something that doesn't exist is an exercise in complete futility and a total waste of time.

But to answer your question, privilege is determined with no particular reasons. Gays used to be pretty not privileged but now because feelings they are more privilege. It's fucking retarded and attempting to understand how an idiot's mind works will just make you more of an idiot.

Although you seem to already be a fucking retard.
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>>27152503
This is going to be a very barebones explanation, just because I'm a lazy bum.
>I don't understand the wage gap:
The wage gap is calculated strictly 1:1 in that, IIRC, it looks at the average salary for women and the average salary for men and compares the two. It doesn't take into account any variables such as choice of employment, the fact that men are more likely to negotiate for a higher salary/promotion, hours worked, etc. In my opinion, barking up the 78% tree is the wrong approach. Feminists/progressives need to address the "why" aspect of why women are less likely to pick high-stress/high-pay jobs, or are less willing to negotiate their salaries, or perhaps they need to address the fact that many high-paying fields are often related to STEM majors, and that women are less likely to go into those fields and the reasoning as to why they don't go to those fields, and I mean beyond the "girls are discouraged from them :(" route. There is more to the disparity in employment choices than societal influences alone.
>I don't understand 3rd wave feminism:
Word of warning, 3rd wave feminism, and many political/ideological movements, like to imagine that their works will go as planned. However this is rarely, if ever, the case. In an ideal world, feminism would blur the distinction between how society defines masculine and feminine, allowing young boys and men to act however they please without risking societal backlash and shaming. What ends up happening though, is that you get "effeminate" boys and young men who have little to no place in a society that still places a decent amount of value on traditional "masculine" traits. Additionally, the women who champion this cause are slow to change their taste in men, often leading to the more androgynous young men being at a disadvantage when it comes to dating.
>cont.
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>>27152840
Privilege is certainly assigned on the basis of a person being male. Feminists refer to history, and how men have more or less always been in power. There are some exceptions, but for the most part, most famous historical leaders and conquerors are men. Feminists use this example to make the claim that being male gives you an absolute advantage in the scheme of society. They also refer to statistics showing that most CEOs are men, and that most political leaders are men. They make an assumption that being male has given them an advantage in attaining these positions.
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>>27152840
>I want a feminism to explain feminism to me
Then you're a fucking retard. Just like you want a nazi to explain national socialism to you? They're just propaganda pushers and you are intentionally disregarding facts because you are a retarded troll
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>>27152840
Hey you fucking retard here is the fucking links
http://www.aauw.org/files/2013/02/graduating-to-a-pay-gap-the-earnings-of-women-and-men-one-year-after-college-graduation.pdf

http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2006/oct/wk1/art03.htm

http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2008/jun/wk4/art04.htm

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/gender-equality/files/2007report_on_equal_pay_for_pub_-final_en.pdf


So tell me again how it is only one guy on youtube you fucking idiot.
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>>27152503
SHIT TIER BAIT MY FRIEND. THIS IS NOW A CAN OF BEANS THREAD. POST YOUR FAVORITE CANS OF BEANS
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I need feminism because it's my body, and I choose how much heroin I put in there.
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>>27152960
I need feminism because the 49ers are a sports team, not a sex position for your fetishes.
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>>27152892
You literally never had to respond if you thought this thread was retarded

>>27152894
>The idea of privilege is flawed
Where are your sources?

>>27152918
I would ask a nazi to explain nazism to understand how nazis think to see with I agree with how nazis think
If I'm a troll, then just don't respond

>>27152911
You probably have a good point, but you're also a tripfag
I'm disregarding your opinion, fuck off tripfag
I'm not saying you're wrong, I just think you should fuck off
Responding to you was a mistake
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>>27152960
I need feminism because birth control is a right, not something I should have to buy at the store.
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>>27152960
I need feminism because depicting girls as ugly aliens in cartoons is not OK.
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>>27152990
>You probably have a good point
>I'm disregarding your opinion

lol
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>>27152945
>So tell me again how it is only one guy on youtube you fucking idiot.
It's one guy on youtube combining various studies to come up with his own hypothesis
Just because he cites his sources doesn't mean he is more correct than studies that actually answer the question, especially because none of his sources actually corroborate his facts
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>>27152503
Wrong board. Enjoy your ban familia.
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>>27152960
I need feminism because women have every right to be on the front lines of war that men do.
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>>27153044
>wrong board
this isn't the "repost the same 'I hate wage slave' board"
this is the discussion board with the focus on original content and posts
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>>27152960
I need feminism because anime sexualizes women and should be banned.
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>>27152960
I need feminism because my boob size should not dictate your penis size.
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>>27153034
Nope you fucking idiot, the last link proves that the gap is 1 cent that is completely unexplained. Get fucked faggot
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>>27153096
>>27153079
>>27153049
>all a minimum of a minute apart
we get it, you like same fagging
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>>27152960
I need feminism because the patriarchy doesn't view these girls as pretty enough.
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>>27153102
Where's the information about the american wage gap for the last link?
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>>27152960
I need feminism because men should be able to get pregnant too.
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>>27153117
>that qt on the far right
but honestly, wouldn't you fuck them?
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>>27152960
I need feminism because posting "benis" is discriminatory.
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>>27152897
>I don't understand 3rd wave feminism: (cont'd)
Interestingly enough, there was a recent study done that showed a strong correlation/association between women who felt insecure in their personal safety, and a preference for dominant, aggressive, masculine men. 3rd wave feminism should have been more about the existential aspect of what it means to be a woman, yet its turned into a bit of a victim olympics, which really hurts women themselves, because the more they feel like victims, the more likely they are to go for the masculine men they are trying to rid society of. Bit of a vicious cycle, really.
>I don't understand privilege:
I'll be honest with you senpai, I'm not all that familiar with the concept myself, so take this with a grain of salt.
>is privilege just a status that people assign to others based on their apparent and relative advantage, to specify, is a person privileged simply because they are male and powerful people are also male?
This is my take on it. Consider the fact that as a minority, you are at a disadvantage to the majority simply because you are different. However its a bit more complex than that as well. An attractive/confident/etc man is looked favorably upon by both men and women. An attractive woman is looked favorably upon by men, while a successful woman is still revered by men, but markedly less so. The issue I have with the concept of privilege as it is explained today, is that people are expecting hundreds of years of societal norms, which have been pretty uniform across most cultures and are in part influenced by biological drives, to be overturned within a century (if we're starting from women being able to vote in the US) simply because "progress."

>TL;DR
Essentially, third-wave feminism is potentially noble in its alleged purpose, since "equality for all" is a very feel-good slogan, but it fails miserably in execution. It neglects the very complex aspects of societal evolution and the dynamic between men and women.
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>>27152503
>I want to be a feminist
>It feels right and that it's the right thing to do
What makes it feel right?

>wage gap
Feminist explanation: Women as a group earn less than men because of discrimination.

Non-feminist explanation: If one compares men and women who have the same job, experience, hours etc there is no wage gap. The aggregate difference in earnings between men and women is due to women holding different jobs, working less hours etc.

Feminist rebuttal: Women are pushed into lower paying jobs or working less hours because of sexism in STEM education and having to choose between their career and family.

Non-feminist rebuttal: Women are actually the majority in nursing, veterinary and other biology related sciences. Female engineers and computer scientists have higher employment rates than their male counterparts. There is no reasonable basis for the assertion that there is sexism in STEM. While women do have to choose between family and career this is something that cannot realistically be avoided. In a merit-based work environment anyone (not just women) who takes time out of their career falls behind those who do.

>3rd wave feminism
Feminist definition: Women suffer beyond the realm or legal discrimination, our culture itself is misogynist. Popular portrayals of women reinforce patriarchal gender roles and subjugate women.

When feminists say that Patriarchy hurts men too they mean that the traditional gender for men forces them to be aggressive, emotionally-stunted, violent and shames/attacks men who don't fit that role.

Non-feminist definition: 3rd wave feminism is the application of theories of class conflict to sex, race, sexual orientation etc. Feminists' assertion that gender is a social construct is outright denial of scientific fact on par with Creationism. The truth is that sex-differences are primarily biological and the cultural aspects are either extensions of those physiological differences or minor and trivial.
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>>27152555
Why would you go to Atheism: the board to ask about religion? Did you think this through at all?
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>>27152720
Business Insider is pretty reputable. Its no buzzfeed or anything. You can take their things seriously. Surely they must have sourced some of if not all of the stats.
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>>27152897
>the "why" aspect of why women are less likely to pick high-stress/high-pay jobs
Couldn't it include female biased factors such as willingness to accommodate for reproductive type faults (pms, pregnancy, etc)
>beyond the "girls are discouraged from them :(" route
but females have been shown to act like males, or at least more like males, when given less prejudice or opportunity
one study about casual sex (Department of Psychology, Johannes Gutenberg-Universitat Mainz) shows that females, without having to assume risk factors, behave more like men than thought
I'm sure there are more examples of people looking into the reasons why the wage gap exists, but "girls are discouraged" is still an answer

>"effeminate" boys and young men who have little to no place in a society
you mean betas
> often leading to the more androgynous young men being at a disadvantage when it comes to dating
This actually has nothing to do with societal expectations and more due to the fact that they just aren't as attractive as other males
What I mean by this is that attractive males who are effeminate are treated like the new chads, I mean look at all the people who say things like "What happened to men who looked like Humphrey Bogart and why did men like Justin Bieber replace them"

>>27153191
>a preference for dominant, aggressive, masculine men
Isn't that just because they can't defend themselves from dominant aggressive men
Did the study consider women who don't cite "men as being aggressive" as a factor?
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>>27153255
>Atheism: the board
we don't have that board
r9k isn't the angry manlets who hate women board, and just because other people treat it that way, doesn't make it right
this board still places a focus on original content and discussion

>>27153294
My problem was with the image's lack of source citing, which reflects on the person who made it, and also whoever reposts it
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>>27152503
>Someone Red Pill me with documentation and studies

Here are some videos:

The Red Pill Documentary by Cassie Jaye Extended Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK7n_XA40V8

Michael Buerk on What are Men for? (Living in a Feminist Man-Hating (Misandrous) Matriarchy)
Parts 1 - 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0L3ik9fp-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx0dewP6dgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd7oN7xjNpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQTlhp70VPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXncoLzPfY0

Men are more likely to successfully commit suicide, are more likely to work menial labor, are more likely to work full time, are more likely to get killed in wars, are more likely to be incarcerated, die at a younger age and are more likely to get killed for any reason at all.
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>>27153377
>Couldn't it include female biased factors such as willingness to accommodate for reproductive type faults
Of course. In fact you hit (one of) the nail(s) on the head. The fact that men and women have different biological functions has an impact on their job choice as well. Many times women will opt for jobs that offer better options for maternity leave and are relatively less-stressful over the potentially high paying job. Obviously that is in part due to the biological aspect, but also from the societal aspect as well, since women are often expected to be the ones to raise the child, as opposed to the father.
>I'm sure there are more examples of people looking into the reasons why the wage gap exists, but "girls are discouraged" is still an answer
Again, you are correct, however the issue is that the "girls are discouraged" answer is often presented as the only option, and many expect the solution to that to be to throw more money at scholarships/programs to encourage women to enter the fields in question. I believe that the variables that effect how a person acts are both biological and social/societal. One side cannot be addressed while the other is ignored, otherwise you only end up creating conflict.
>Isn't that just because they can't defend themselves from dominant aggressive men
>Did the study consider women who don't cite "men as being aggressive" as a factor?
Forgive me, I seem to have forgotten the exact specifics of the study. After a little digging I found it.
>http://www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138%2816%2930003-4/abstract
>"Our research suggests that the relationship between feelings of vulnerability, as measured by fear of crime, and women's preference for physically formidable and dominant mates is stable, and does not update according to environmental circumstances or relative level of protection needed."
Mind you, their actual risk had no effect on it. The only thing that mattered was if they /felt/ victimized.
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>>27152503
Third-wave feminism is a Marxist/Hegelian appropriation of classic feminism. It is a sociopolitical tool and nothing more.

Literally just be a good person and treat people with respect and you'll be a classic feminist. Can you handle that? Good. You've already done it. Congratulations. Welcome to the same club as every rational person on Earth.

The only reason you "want" to be a feminist is because you're beginning to be brainwashed by "white guilt". Even if you're not white, you're probably male, and have doubtless been bombarded with fallacious arguments as to why you should regret having ever been born. That's the grotesque beauty of third-wave feminism -- everyone is guilty, and nobody really knows why. It is a radical ideology which, like all radical ideologies, have been designed to be unfalsifiable. This means that its premises are incapable of generating actual arguments, as they are inherently illogical.

You don't understand privilege, for example, because it doesn't exist. You even put it in your own words, "apparent and relative advantage". That's what they're afraid to say. In their worldview, the socially successful are inherently advantaged, rather than as a result of apparent and relative advantages.

Also, responding to a bait thread. Whatever.
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You're on r9k, why the fuck would you even care about women getting equality?

You newfags/moralfags should lurk more
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>>27153854
>moralfags
>doesn't realize that /b/ was only actually malicious in order to give tough lessons about the real world
You're probably a pedophile though, so anything you say is automatically invalid.
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>>27152503
>I want to be a feminist
It feels right and that it's the right thing to do
lol. The cuck gene is for real
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>>27152960
I need feminism because I need something to laugh at
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Feminism shouldn't even be a thing. It should be a basic component of your humanity. If you don't have the traits of a feminist, you're scum, plain and simple.
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>its a tumblr raids /r9k/ episode
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>>27152503
'scum manifesto' by valerie solanas.
read it.
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>>27153989
I don't give a fuck if women don't hve equal rights or whatever the fuck the kikes are saying

Its not my problem if a bunch of whiny bitches are mad because they're gender is a meme

Fucking numales kek

Nice b8 too Doj btw what are you gonna do when your internet gf fucks some Chad irl??
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>>27154056
Your entire English is a meme, kiddo.
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>>27154093
nice retort bro. if you are out of answers, just make fun of someones grammar.
you sure rekt him butt.
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>>27154093
Sorry Doj I'm fucking drunkyea nut can you answer me please?

Ignore the other cuck and answer my q thanks
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>>27154093
>can't reply for shit
>sidesteps conversation and deals what is in his mind a clever, hard-hitting one-liner to end it all
>ends up looking more spergy and retarded than if he'd just answered the question
Classic tripfag.
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>>27154147
you will never be a good feminist. you are a male swine, now be a good piggy and go shove your face in shit like all the other males...er, swine, do
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>>27154132
>>27154147
>>27154194
inb4 Doj hides the thread to save his fragile ego
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>>27154132
>butt

>>27154147
>WOAH DUDE IM SO DRUNK THATS WHY I CANT SPELL XD
Look kid, I can still spell perfectly fine when drunk, and so can you. You're not drunk. You're just trying to be "cool" or something. Sad.

>>27154194
Meme replies get meme replies. It's not hard, Anon. Stop these mental gymnastics. They might damage your brain.
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>>27154320
>mental gymnastics
Ah, you've already gone full retard. I understand. I'll stop making you use more than a tiny fraction of your brain on the big bad 4chins.
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>>27154407
Holy fuck. At least try to use English properly.
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Feminism for women: "I should be able to eat what I want, fuck who I want, and leech all the resources I need from whoever put a baby in me."

Feminism for men: "I lack many personality traits that a young man like me should have. I also like really gay shit and don't want to be shamed for any of it."
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>>27154320
ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESRION

WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN YOUR INTERNET GF KEKS YOU
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>>27154447
What will you do when the bad boys come for you?
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>>27154320
Where the hell is that picture from? I am so captivated by it. Was it from some video game or anything?
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>>27154466
Please Doj I need to know man

your gf needs physical stimulation m80 and you can't give it to her

One day shell find a hot nigger or Chad and get fucked and pumped full of cum.

What will you do if this happens???
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>>27152503
The thing is, what you want is not what feminism has become.
We are at a point where by law woman and men are equal and if they are not treated equal (eg. by an employer) anyone can go to court and will be given there right.
In the Western world today (unlike 50 years ago) feminism has very little point because all its major goals have been accomplished.

If you look at mainstream feminism today you will realize that the people who call themselves feminsts do so because it gives them validity to complain. (Look at sarkesian, Valenti etc.)

They are not fighting for women's rights. They write articles about why they hate to dislike not being catcalled. Instead off women who live in a real patriarchy, eg. in the middle East.
When the sexual assault in Cologne happend feminists weren't outraged that women were raped they complained that Muslims were portrayed as rapists. That fact tells alot about what mainstream feminism is.
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>>27154486
It very well might be.

>>27154504
Silly Anon. I am the Chad.
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Top kek with kek topping on top
Are you trolling or are you really that stupid OP?
I'd read your stupid tl;dr but I don't want to waste time on that bullshit.
If you're serious. YOU COME TO R9K TO TALK ABOUT FEMISHIT? that's comedy gold
And you already ruined the thead with the topic anyway
yeah it's bait and I fell for it
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>>27152503
Pick what you believe in, people have all done it before. There is nothing new under the sun.
There is going to be popular talking points. If beating a dead horse is your deal breaker you probably didn't believe in it.

A human deserves a fair chance at life.
Should the shape of their genitals make a difference for their existence? Fundamentally I think no. What if they have it better or worse? I don't give a fuck.
Does that make me a feminist? Technically yes. Unless people want to beat dead horses but it's not going to change what I think fundamentally unless they can come up with a better talking point.
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This is why you need feminism: >>>/adv/16915626
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>>27152503
The wage gap is calculated based on median wage of men and women OF ALL JOBS instead of comparing the average wage of men and women in ONE JOB.

Feminists fallaciously interpret this data wrong so that it looks like women are paid less. In reality, the only thing the data tells us is that more men have higher-paying jobs.

Feminist "privelege" works like this: The more traits you have that correspond with the majority, the more "priveleged" you are. Minority traits sometimes "subtract" privelege, but this is only when feminists want to hypocritically use this "fluctuation" of what is privelege and what is not to an advantage in their argument. (Ex: In one post they say "all women are good" but in the next they say "white women are the devil!") However this doesn't make sense because there are barely any "white scholarships" (and those go under intense hate anyways) men are expected to be the provider in most relationships, trans people get national recognition and love while being cis only gets you hate, the same with sexuality. So basically, the whole feminist "privelege" system is the opposite of what it is in real life.

Basically modern feminism is based on attention whoring and getting free shit for women while keeping it from men because daddy/husbando issues.
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This is a strange new flavor of b8. Your very own questions show the ridiculousness of feminist religion and yet you pretend that you want to support them on a board that is exclusively MRA/MGTOW/TRP.
This is like some kind of eclectic trolling.
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>>27152586
>all sides of an argument
HMMMMMMMMMMM it is to laugh! *tips for m'lady* isn't a side or an argument.
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>>27153223
I think there is some merit to the idea that people feel pushed towards certain behaviors based on what the observe as kids. I grew up without seeing my dad cry ever. Movie made crying as a man seem super unattractive. Like only the weird guys or bad guys cried. I know now that if I feel sad it's okay to show those emotions but I also know that sometimes even in the face of tragedy I find it difficult to become overly emotional. Id be willing to gues the feminist and non feminist points are both partially correct but frame it as a black and white thing with no grey area
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>>27152586
Those feminist tears tbqh.
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>>27154529
You say that but she's probably got a cock in her right now

You know you can't please her with Skype sex alone
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>>27152918
>comparing fems (even the shit ones) to nazis
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>>27154982
Doj BTFO


Will he RECOVER???
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feminism: making women more miserable every year.
one of the few satisfactions in life for a robot is seeing feminism ruin stacies :).
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this really the worst bait.
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>>27152503
Feminism is shit
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>>27152555
Don`t.Fucking.Post.This.Garbage.HERE!!!!!
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