>WOMEN ONLY WANT PERFECT CHAD AND SETTLE FOR NOTHING LESS
>okay but what about the millions of men who aren't perfect chad but are happily in love? bald men, short men, dicklets, fatties, the mentally ill, all sorts of men have found love.
>YEAH THEY DON'T COUNT SHE'S CHEATING ON THEM SHE'LL CHEAT ON THEM FOR CHAD THEY'RE KEKS GO BACK TO THE KEKSHED
how can you live your life honestly believing this
>>27084926
Roastie/beta nice guy orbiter and future provider cuck detected.
Either way, kill yourself.
Thank you, OP.
Of course, they won't understand.
>>27084945
Can you try that again but without the meaningless /r9k/ buzzwords?
>>27084926
Is that a MAC-10?
>>27084926
Most here are late teens early twenties so when they say women they mean of a comparable age, and those girl women are all busy being hit on by every nearby adult man and taking grandpa dick for a versace handbag.
Take the black pill, people!!!
>>27084964
It's a gook representation of one, apparently lacking an ejection port.
I suffer from mental illness and haven't even held a woman's hand. Such bullshit.
>>27084926
No kidding. How did "men" become so insecure and such big pussies?
There are very few situations of women actually dating down though. It most cases they only ever get with superior men.
>>27084926
>how can you live your life honestly believing this
obviously because of the same truths you've already spoken. women want perfect chads and cheat on everyone else they end up with with said chads.
VOTE TRUMP 2016 MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
>>27084926
>happily in love
You mean happily getting cucked?
>>27085018
Why should they date down?
And why are you not aiming at your own attractiveness and status bracket?
>>27084926
Santa Claus doesn't exist. How in the fuck can you live your life believing this? Obviously santa claus exists but you're just a bitter retard because you didn't get christmas presents because you're a bad ugly dumb boy who is also wrong and dumb and stupid.
Right.
>>27085012
>robots
>men
kek, everyone here is a failure
>>27085031
I'm responding to OP's assertion that women date down for 'love' and whatnot. Also my own bracket doesn't want me. Only the ugliest and dumbest chicks show interest.
>>27085055
literally what the fuck is this analogy
what are you TALKING about
>He found love
>She found a money dispencer
>Still wanting women as anything beyond cum rags
>>27084926
because over half of robots here are a bunch of immature pussies who live in denial blaming other people for their loneliness
>>27084945
>>27085009
>>27085029
>>27085055
>>27085085
it's fine, just plug your ears and believe what you want to
I admit, there are alot of bald men, short men, dicklets, fatties and mentally ill that are happily providing for their women
>>27085074
Not the replied too comment but I think he's trying to say
>Boy A and B told about Santa
>Boy A recieves presents, Boy B doesn't
>Boy A has every reason to believe in Santa and B doesn't
>Because of the positive reinforcement Boy A will continue to expect to recieve presents on christmas, whereas B will not.
Tldr; If you're a semi normie and had female friends who maybe showed you some interest, you can believe that women would date you.
If you were constantly bullied as a child and had no female attention, you stop believing in Santa (Ever getting a loved one)
reminder in case you forgot
we're talking about attractive or young women who have value in the social marketplace. ugly or fat women dating beta or ugly males basically don't exist.
>>27085110
but love is not mythical
love is not santa
>women
>true love
Pick one
>>27085101
>t. asshurt roastbeef cunt
>>27085101
Roasty who is toasty or beta white knight? Find out after the break!
and men only want perfect cute wives and Cuck us all in the trash like last weeks left overs
>>27085018
>very few situations of women actually dating down though.
okcupid just came out with some interesting information regarding this
https://www.okcupid.com/deep-end/a-womans-advantage
1. women almost never initiate
2. both men and women (on those rare occasions they do initiate) message people more attractive than themselves
3. women receive nothing but messages from less attractive men
there are over 40 MILLION people in the US alone dating and forming relationships from dating websites. that's tens of millions of women "dating down" according to objective statistical research
>>27085136
>>27085140
just remember that it's everyone's fault but yours, all the normies met up at the normie conference to conspire against you
>>27085116
so you're saying women only fuck men they don't like?
>>27085140
fucking lmao
of course you're not the beta here
>>27085131
correct. love is a simple chemical reaction in the brain that makes you want to fuck someone for a year or two then throw them away when those feelings subside and you're no longer "in love" with them.
>male virgin
>won't date a used-up female slut
>not realizing that male virgins and used-up sluts have the same social value
>>27085158
Remember that the world is fair and that women really do love! Wouldn't want you to stop buying me things while I fuck Chad, right hon?
>>27084926
Nigga have you seen the men in India? You cant even call them men they are subhuman scum and get married and pound away, you are set m8
>>27085131
t. person who is attractive and functional enough to receive love and never have to do without it and is incapable of looking away from his own navel to look at the other side of the fence.
You're like a fat westerner telling a skelly dying african kid to just open his fridge and grab a sandwich because "lel it werks for me if eye can do eet anyone can u just lazy bitter dumb self centered masochist maniac narcissist evil".
>>27085193
could you please stop slutshaming?
it's 2016 you know?
>>27085211
they live in a culture with arranged marriages though. in the west it's woman's choice, and women are notoriously shit at picking mates.
>>27085200
>while I fuck Chad
maybe you can't get a girlfriend because of your fucking paranoia
do you seriously think every woman cheats?
how do you exist? can you go to a restaurant without thinking the chef is poisoning your food? do you think everyone is talking about you behind your back? maybe women find you unapproachable and hard to love because you assume right off the bat that they're promiscuous
>>27085216
I am a 23 year old kissless virgin
I still believe love exists
fuck off with your retarded food metaphors you dumb nigger
>>27085130
this should be a disclaimer for every redpill post
>>27085228
>how do you exist? can you go to a restaurant without thinking the chef is poisoning your food? do you think everyone is talking about you behind your back? maybe women find you unapproachable and hard to love because you assume right off the bat that they're promiscuous
>>27085228
Ah yes, let's just close our eyes and cover our ears so we can ignore divorce rates and our everly more promiscuous society.
>>27084926
just give up trying to tell them otherwise, sit back, and enjoy the freakshow.
that's all r9k is for any sane person really.
>>27085271
hehe tippy fedora! you got him! /r/cringe this shit!!
>>27085279
>whores
>sane
What did he mean by this?
>>27085228
>do you seriously think every woman cheats?
when it's literally a 50/50 base shot that she'll cuck you, and that chance only increases with each item on the Chad checklist you don't match up to, why bother?
no, not "every" woman cheats, but so many of them do as to make finding a genuinely loyal and dedicated partner an unrealistic aspiration.
>>27085228
>le smug animu with question marks and reddit sentence structure
Fucking EPIC bro xDD
>>27085238
Oh good luck then. I'm a 27 years old khv by the way. Sorry for the retarded metaphors. I promise to stop with the retarded metaphors when you stop with the retarded bait posts. Deal?
>>27084926
You know That Kid in HS, the one who had a perpetual C+/B- GPA but told everyone he was 'actually gifted, but school bored him, so his grades were poor'? The one that stared at pretty girls but never talked to them? The one that was always a second too slow to laugh at other peoples' jokes and a second too eager to laugh at his own?
You know the one.
Well, that combination of weak-mindedness, arrogance, and envy is what causes those attitudes then and the attitudes towards women you describe.
>>27084926
I don't understand your point OP. the divorce rate is 50%
>>27085271
>i lost an argument so ill send a fedora picture his way
jesus christ, anon.
>>27085352
>lost an argument
???
>>27085324
>50/50
>unrealistic
you are acting like the chances of a woman cheating on you are 90%. let me remind you that 50/50 means she is just as likely to be loyal as she is to cheat.
>>27085228
A W A L T
W
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>>27084926
I think it's entirely natural and logical that women marry men who are stable providers, while at the same time fucking chad to get his superior genes.
Beta men through the ages knew this, and they set real harsh punishments for cheating to stop their wives from cucking them.
But thanks to feminism, women are no longer punished for cheating.
So today its beta bucks alpha fucks.
>>27085352
>lost an argument
There has to be an argument in the first place.
>>27085380
>Being okay with a fucking coin flip
Are you for real?
>>27085387
truth
beta rage is misdirected
>>27084960
Girl/White night and future husband of a whore who has aged past her days of fucking tons of guys and is ready to settle down and mooch off of a hard working less sexually desirable man, not necessarily meaning monogamous but will atleast pretend as to get free money and affection: detected.
>>27085387
This is literal fact.
Now all that is left before the beta uprising can commence is to get women to admit it, Probably by convincing them there will be no consequences and appealing to their innate desire to place people lower on the pecking order than them.
>>27085153
how are you getting that women date down from the fact that they are pursued by less attractive men
who said they're actually taking up those men on their offers
i dont even believe the whole "WOMEN ONLY GO FOR BRAD PITT LOOKALIKES" thing but your reasoning is flawed, my man
>>27085228
most women are like that though, and even if they don't cheat, they'll do many things to you behind your back out of spite
you'd be lucky if all they did was cheat on you
>>27085417
I'm not saying that as many as 50% of women cheat, but if they did, it would be relieving.
Try flipping a coin 3-4 times. What's the likely hood they all land on heads? It's less than 10%. That means after just a few years of trial and error, you find the perfectly loyal girl. Sounds like a great deal to me.
And who cares if I get cucked? She cheated on me. That is on her, not me. It's not like I'm being water boarded or anything.
Wow is this enjoying life as a secure adult? Why hasn't anyone tried this before?
>>27085380
>50% is reliable
im having xcom flashbacks
>>27085193
This seems to be true in the eyes of a lot of people, but I have no interest in getting with a woman who would adhere to such a belief anyway. I'd rather be alone than with someone who isn't right for me, and I'm well aware that means I will most likely stay alone, but it's still the better of those two options.
It's not so much that all women are lying, cheating whores as that they have no disincentive to be lying, cheating whores.
But because most people would do bad things if they can get away with it, and women can get away with bad things, it's pretty safe to assume that any women you involve yourself with will do many bad things. After all, wouldn't you?
>>27085351
>The divorce rate is 50%
Man, this won't die
According to the GSS, the Census, and the CDC the divorce rate was NEVER 50% - it peaked at 40% about 1980 and has been *going down ever since*.
Right now the rate of divorce for first marriage is about 18%
>>27085573
This is a great train of thought if you're just looking for a girlfriend to enjoy in the short-term, but if you're looking for someone to build a life with and be there with you when you get old, or especially to have children with, then it can be really hard to put your trust into someone after hearing so many horror stories and bad statistics.
>>27085605
>After all, wouldn't you?
this
if I was good looking chad I would be using women for sex and gifts and cucking them constantly
>>27085573
>That is on her, not me.
Are you kidding me? In my experience, if a girl ditches you, everyone shits on you for it on top of the chick expressing her own disinterest. People treat it like you're a failure of a man for not fitting a girl's tastes enough for her to not run off with the next biggest dick around.
>>27085605
>After all, wouldn't you?
No, I would not, and I think it's sad that someone might think that there are literally no people who wouldn't do bad things if only they could get away with it. However, I'm certainly well aware that many people are like that and it's a huge gamble to trust anyone.
>>27085573
>Who cares if the person you emotionally and finacially supported cucks you? Just move onto the next one!
A life of moving from one train wreck to another, this is the future you chose
>>27085573
>And who cares if I get cucked?
There's a vocal contingent on /r9k/ that cares intensely about sexual fidelity and sexual purity and I really can't understand why.
In theory, ideally speaking, your woman is your property. If she's not a virgin, if she cheats, if there's other men's semen on her face - what does it fucking matter? Most people in any other market would be perfectly willing to buy used goods at firesale prices, taking a realistic look at the reduced cost and the reduced benefit. I don't understand why so many /r9k/ users are irrationally attached to not doing the same when considering sex. (I say "/r9k/ users" instead of robots because if the quality of women as partners is relevant to you, you're in a position to consider having a woman as a partner, in which case REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE)
>>27085380
no, 50% is the baseline. it only gets higher over time with the fewer Chad-like qualities you demonstrate, which realistically for most men means a 75%+ chance of infidelity.
>>27085667
>No, I would not,
Same, but we're anomalous and you're probably a liar 2bh.
>>27085216
source of pic?
originalXD
>>27085619
this
there is no way to accurately measure either.
the way they have always did it before is to (divide people who got married one year by the amount of divorced people that year)
That is clearly a flawed way of doing it because it doesn't take into how many people remained married.
>>27085387
this was why distributive marriage was invented in the first place. we needed people to be productive and continue working to upkeep our new agricultural civilizations, but we couldn't do that when the top 80% of women flocked to the top 20% of men and the other 80% of men had no reason to be productive.
>>27085707
>there is no way to accurately measure either.
what
it's easy, what proportion of marriages got divorced in that year
it doesn't matter what year someone got married, what matters is the current social climate
>>27085676
If can't understand the shame, hatred, and despair of a man who's girlfriend fucked another dude while they're in a relationship, you might have literal autism.
And if you're okay with you're girlfriend fucking other dudes, why are you anything but just fuck buddies?
>>27085695
Well obviously neither of us can know for sure if the other person is actually good, that's the entire problem with trusting people.
However, if you are a good person yourself, you've at least proven that good people can exist, and logically it would be extremely unlikely that you are in that regard completely unique amongst the billions of humans on the planet.
>>27085716
>distributive marriage was invented
what
>>27085744
there's a pretty wide gulf between actually demonstrably morally wrong things and just sleeping around. it's annoying and frustrating, but it's not really as bad as if she had physically hurt you or stolen from you or even just broken an appointment
>>27085225
They're shit at choices because they don't want to pick you?
>>27085717
>FFS
That is how the '50%' bullshit got started - morons like you
>California changes divorce laws, making it much easier, faster, and less expensive to get a divorce
>Divorces spike in Southern Cali
>Some numb-nuts reporter divides number of marriages that year by number of divorces that year, gets 48%, rounds up
You have to account for things like population cohorts, the impact of legal changes, the movement of population geographically, etc.
>>27085148
lose weight lardo, then you too can partake of the buffet of the 3 STD-ridden chads fucking all of you sluts
this board consists of a bunch of sheltered manchildren who's only interaction with the outside world is through pornography and shun anyone who has left /r9k/ as "normies" and "chads."
Moot has created a Plato's Cave from an imageboard.
That is completely correct though OP. Any average man will be with someone who thinks they are better than him substantially and who will eventually kek him
>>27085791
Now anon you know that's a loaded question as an argument
>>27085775
>distributive marriage
The families agreed to marry based on necessity, not based on the feelings.
>>27085200
holy shit you're pathetic.
we know the world's unfair, that's exactly what we're trying to make you understand you dumbfuck. you just expect everything to come for free. of course 'chads' that were born hot and confident have it easy, but if you weren't born like that fucking work for making yourself better.
of course nobody wants to fuck or be in a relationship with a whiny entitled mysogynistic hateful insecure loser. you weren't born like that, you let yourself become that.
I don't care about your anxiety problems, your depression, your psychosis, your aspergers, etc. that's not an excuse. you can always make yourself better and likable and fuckable. I know you feel like you can't do, but you can.
>>27085216
same for you.
that analogy is fucking pathetic, you're not a 'skelly dying african kid' in the social scale nor the attractiveness scale.
>>27085324
>>27085200
>>27085417
I bet y'all only think of 'stacys' when talking about women.
there's a shitlot of women in the same situation as you.
and guys cheat as much as girls do.
and it's pretty fucking common for whiny girls too to think all men are heartless cheaters who won't ever actually love them.
you're not that different from women.
>>27085621
Why would you be looking for someone like that.
Good relationships is something that starts in the short term. People who go out to find someone they are going to stay with for the rest of your life is bound to end in disappointment.
>>27085228
>you go to a restaurant without thinking the chef is poisoning your food? do you think everyone is talking about you behind your back?
not him but i do.
If you don't you're either a normo or naive. Or both of course.
>>27085808
None of that matters because 70% of divorces are initiated by women. So you have no control and it is very likely she will decide to get a divorce.
>>27085824
>actually thinking that there was an organized system invented to keep women from "flocking to the top 20%"
Do you have even a single fact to back that up?
>>27085540
>who said they're actually taking up those men on their offers
reading comprehension and critical thinking not your strong suit? men message first. men message up. ergo, women respond down. the resulting tens of millions of relationships being formed via this system mean that women are dating down.
the idea that all women, or even most women, go for Chads is objectively and verifiably false. it's a fantasy run wild in the imaginations of inexperienced autists, based on a foundation of huge, sticky loads of circle jerked confirmation bias they choke down from communities like this on a daily basis.
>>27085808
those factors wouldn't have a direct mathematical impact though, it's not like controlling for illness rates against population density or whatever
and still, that's a lot of divorces happening, whether it's due to a law change or not. clearly, women are looking to trade up
>>27085830
>Thinking It's only about fucning
>That projection
>That vague "just improve yourself :)" statement
>I swear you aren't as ugly as you think even though ive never seen you before
>There are women who are robots
This post is full of gold. Grab it while you can laddies
>>27085664
She cheated on you though. If you aren't moping about it, and move on, people see her as unfaithful.
You might be being a bit too sensitive. You're acting like you drove her into cheating on you.
Even if people are shitting on you for it, that's their opinion, and it's an incorrect opinion.
>>27085668
Why are you supporting them financially?
>>27084987
>and those girl women are all busy being hit on by every nearby adult man and taking grandpa dick for a versace handbag.
And then they'll grow older and suddenly
>bald men, short men, dicklets, fatties, the mentally ill, all sorts of men
will find "love".
A.K.A.: be a man and marry that slut.
>>27084926
Those are both cherry picked and you're forgetting that the core /r9k/ audience is mentally ill
Schizoid is a prime /r9k/ trait and that basically means that you willfully avoid human contact
>>27085927
>Implying ugly betas can provide anything physically so they have to provide financially for a gf
That's how it works
>>27085830
of course, but you are misunderstanding now
the point here is that women fuck only the
>'chads' that were born hot and confident
but they use others (betas) for money, work and attention
I am trying to warn other
>whiny entitled mysogynistic hateful insecure loser
like me to not get abused by women
>that analogy is fucking pathetic, you're not a 'skelly dying african kid' in the social scale nor the attractiveness scale.
how so?
being kissless virgin and what else insults you throw at me makes me the bottom barrel of social and attractiveness scale, does it not?
>and guys cheat as much as girls do.
the chads that get pussy thrown at them do cheat, yes
>there's a shitlot of women in the same situation as you.
there are some women who cannot get the hot and popular chad, sure, but there are almost no women that cannot get some poor beta to fall for them
>and it's pretty fucking common for whiny girls too to think all men are heartless cheaters who won't ever actually love them.
thats because women only chase these chads, who are then free to pick and fuck girls
>>27085889
women send at least some messages, and the ratings for female versus male attractiveness do not compare to eachother well
a 7 star woman is not equally attractive as a 7 star man because women rate differently than men, and what is attractive itself is different between the sexes. there's also non-sexy things to consider like income and hobbies -- there's a lot more boring and poor women getting railed like scrubs off of OKC and POF than there are boring and poor men getting their dick wet
>>27085866
>"The actual rate of divorce doesn't matter"
Yeah - it kinda' does since the post being referred to stated
>"I don't understand your point OP. the divorce rate is 50%"
See, the divorce rate IS NOT 50% so - fuck off.
ALSO, even if your metric is correct that means only 1 in 8 first marriages is ended by the woman filing for divorce.
>"Heavens, there is a 1 in 8 chance she might divorce me! Egads! I am undone with terror!"
Whatever, Percy.
And it isn't as if the methods of reducing the odds of divorce are a secret - you do it right and the odds of her divorcing you are essentially 1 in 100,000.
But you're the sort of ignoramus that doesn't know that 12.5% of women aged 25 are still virgins and this percentage has been *increasing* for 10 years
>>27085910
>people see her as unfaithful.
nope
literally never happens. she's always just a stronk independent womyn making her own choices, and the guy is always some pathetic doof with not enough game
>Even if people are shitting on you for it, that's their opinion, and it's an incorrect opinion.
>lel ids juss opinions :^)
one day you'll enter the real world with real adults and realize that what other real adults think of you actually matters. and not to going out and getting wasted and having fun, but to getting jobs, securing income and credit, having leases co-signed, etc. getting made fun of on saturday means someone skipping an appointment on monday because "lol why would i work with that loser"
>>27085907
>Actual math wouldn't affect the numbers
>changes in the laws of divorce wouldn't change divorce rates
Do me a favor - start using a trip code so people can block you
>>27085734
I mean, most secure people will feel betrayed, but most people are mature enough to move on, and not let that ruin their future enjoyment of relationship. It hurts, but it's not like your getting 40 lashings with a ball gag in your mouth.
I mean, do all women cheat? Of course not. So why let that linger on you?
>>27084926
>how can you live your life honestly believing this
Why do you faggots honestly even care? What does it matter to you what r9k believes?
If you dumbfuck normie retards weren't having doubts you wouldn't give a shit, it's so incredibly obvious you're trying to convince yourselves your lala disneyworld view of reality is true
>>27085889
>the resulting tens of millions of relationships being formed via this system
>this retard actually believes this
>>27085909
I also said 'be in a relationship with'.
>I swear you aren't as ugly as you think even though ive never seen you before
I never said you're not ugly. you're probably as ugly as you think you are. What I'm saying is you can look way better than that if you work for it.
The projection thing. There was actually a time when I was a 'whiny entitled mysogynistic hateful insecure loser', that's why I'm saying that.
And do really believe women can't be robots?
>>27086042
I may have expressed it oddly but seriously: a 48% divorce rate is still high, and it still means that in that year, 48% of all marriages got annulled for some reason or another not including one member dying. that's not good odds, especially considering that not all unhappy couples get divorced immediately or ever, so you're free to get cucked aplenty but still be legally tied down
>>27086067
This. If you are so cocksure, then why bother with us losers in the first place?
>inb4 "to get a laugh cause I'm just that superior"
I'm suuure you are
>>27086083
>And do really believe women can't be robots?
You believe they can?
>>27084945
I assume you are a virgin...
You are are aren't you?
You are a virgin
>>27086033
>nope literally never happens. she's always just a stronk independent womyn making her own choices, and the guy is always some pathetic doof with not enough game
All I need to disprove this is one anecdote. Seriously why would you say "always" for something that occurs relatively rarely?
>one day you'll enter the real world with real adults
What kind of shit wage slave job are you working that this shit actually happens?
In the real world, people typically keep relationships out of work.
>>27086081
your personal delusions are not a valid argument, autistanon.
I fucked up and now feel like I want to kill myself. So tonight I'll get shitfaced alone and hopefully never wake up.
>Be 8/10 QT in my class
>Get paired up for a long-term group presentation
>Was benzo'd out of my mind at the time so was smooth as fuck, she was clearly into me
>Manage to control spaghetti throughout process and presentation
>Later that night text her talking about the pres and random shit. First time we started talking personal.
>Shes cool as fuck, we make each other laugh, have a lot of common interests.
>By the final text I was shitfaced and instead if a simple "See ya later" I texted "I love how your ass looks whenever you wear yoga pants"
>Day later no response even after I apologized the next morning.
How fucked am I? Is there anything I can do or say to resolve this situation without appearing like a total creep? I need helpp??
>>27086148
>why would you say "always" for something that occurs relatively rarely?
r9k is literally nothing but confirmation bias. they're just as delusional as tumblrinas in regards to how social dynamics work in the real world.
>WOMEN ONLY WANT PERFECT CHAD AND SETTLE FOR NOTHING LESS
>he says while masturbating for the 64th time to Brianna Frost
>>27086234
>masturbating to good looking women is the same as women having unwarranted high standards
what a manchild
>>27086163
>your personal delusions are not a valid argument, autistanon.
Your all-lowercase pseudoisms aren't either, Tumblrite :^)
Keep believing successful "relationships" are being formed on OK fucking Cupid if it helps you sleep at night, lololol
>>27085775
Of course there are different degrees of wrongdoing, but I consider betrayal of a committed relationship to be pretty bad, and *extremely* bad if kids are involved because that means putting their livelihood at risk rather than just mine.
>>27086103
>48% of all marriages got annulled for some reason
OK, Wile E., let's try this again
>In 1970's there was a law change that caused a temporary spike in divorce in California
>In that period the number of divorces in one year was 48% the number of marriages in that year.
NOT "all marriages"! That is the problem! Some yarbo like you said
>"Well there were 100 marriages this year and 48 divorces this year. MY GOD! 48% of ALL MARRIAGES just ended in divorce!!!!!11111!"
No, pal - not even close.
When you actually track cohorts, i.e., 'all the people married in 1990' over the course of their lives you'll see that the percentage of those marriages *that are first marriages* that end in divorce, ever, was about 30%
By 2000 is had dropped
It *keeps* dropping
If you got married today for the first time your median odds of divorce *ever* would be no more than 18% and, based on trends and initial numbers, probably more like 15%.
..
It is like that "70% of divorces are initiated by women".
True? Mostly. Misleading? Fuck, yeah. Women initiate divorce in only 55% of first marriages and about 15% of those is after the man has abandoned the family so the odds of your wife actively divorcing you in your first marriage if you don't run off is only 40% of the 18% divorce rate, or 7% of the time.
So, to make this simple for you
IF YOU GOT MARRIED TODAY for the first time to a girl that had never married before AND you do not abandon her there is only about a 7% [median] chance that she would *ever* initiate a divorce with you.
.
This odd combination of innumeracy and myth is causing guys like you to make really whacky decision!
>>27086440
Where the fuck are you pulling these numbers from? Your own asshole?
The divorce rate is only "dropping" (it's actually stagnant and has increased again recently by the way) because no one is getting married, moron.
>>27086748
>I can't read the thread, the post
The census, the GSS, and the CDC, moron
>(it's actually stagnant and has increased again recently by the way)
Where are you getting YOUR numbers, oh mighty citation demander?
>"rates are only dropping because totals are dropping"
Communications major, then?
>how can you live your life honestly believing this
It's not easy. Makes me hate myself and everyone else really. But it's the truth, so what can I do.
>>27086123
Yes.
You feel like you're invisible to most people, and you are; and so are fembots.
>>27087107
Fembots are desired by hundreds and thousands of men.
Robots are not.
Fembots constantly post screenshots of the okc with like 1700+ likes and 2k messages.
Fuck you
>>27085447
A tripfag who isn't a complete retard?
Congrats , keep posting man
>>27087107
"Fembots" literally have people going "skype please" as soon as they post anything.
>>27086175
The first thing you simply GOTTA do is get the fuck off my board, normie.
>>27085957
This famalamlam
>>27084926
>happily in love?
You know the quality of relationships of "millions" of men? Sounds like a pretty unfounded assumption.
>SHE'LL CHEAT ON THEM FOR CHAD THEY'RE KEKS
>how can you live your life honestly believing this
Well, let's take a look at the available data;
http://nypost.com/2012/11/25/nobody-marries-their-best-sex-ever/
Less than half of married women married their best fuck.
66% would rather read a book, watch a movie, or take a nap than fuck their husband.
Women rarely end up long term with the man that makes them the wettest and fucks them best.
Women are also *at least AS" likely to cheat, and considering they're proven to lie more than men on self-reported surveys, their cheating likely outpaces men by a wide margin.
Add to that, there are rarely any penalties, social or otherwise, in our society now for a woman's infidelity.
Add to THAT, the average woman can get dick far easier than the average man can get pussy.
Add to all THAT shit the undeniable truth that "Alpha fucks Beta bucks" is literally an evolutionary mating strategy of the female, not even just in humans but in many species. Secure provisions from one genetically """inferior""" male, while fucking another genetically """superior""" male and having his babies. It's a literal mating strategy. It's fucking real. Not even some R9K buzzword bullshit.
Notice a pattern?
Women categorize men into Cads and cuckold-Dads.
The irony of their doing so is that this only highlights womens life-long patterns of deception and the manipulation efforts necessary to effecting their own dualistic sexual strategy.
That sexual selection firmware, the one which predisposes women on a limbic level to evaluating mating options of short term breeding opportunities (Alpha Fucks) with parental investment opportunities (Beta Bucks), is the same mechanism that made women the more deceptive sex when it comes to sexual strategies.
You're wrong.
normie here,
I know so much people that aren't le epic chads but still are happy in relationships. when cheating does happen it's usually the man who does it.
sitting inside on autistic image boards all day have turned you all into retards with superiority complexes about relationships. your entire life, people around you have found it easy so the only way you can cope is projecting people in happy relationships as "le clingy cucks, beta bux!!" like you were.
Out of everyone I know in real life, I'd probably put less than one percent of them in the category of alpha/beta. you'd have to be a special kind of stupid to take social advice from a place like /r9k/
>>27087954
We just needa take their rights guys, real simple shit
>>27085676
>firesale prices
Women aren't selling themselves for """fire sale""" prices though. There is no "reduced" cost.
That's not how women think.
Women don't say "I got bareback gangbanged in college 24/7, I gave up my pussy for nothing but a nice jaw line and six pack abs, so I guess I should lower my standards now that I want a long term relationship since I'm not worth as much in such a relationship." In their minds, they still want and still deserve a fantasy.
Women are the only asset in the world where the price goes up as the underlying value goes down. When they're 18, you're cool to a chick if you look good, have a car and your own shitty apartment where you can bang her. When they're 35, you need a "respectable career" and substantial savings to buy her a house with granite counter-tops
The price does not go down. You must understand this.
>>27085958
Well said tbqh
>>27087954
this hit pretty close to home desu
>>27087954
Women cheat at least as often as men, and there is data to indicate they probably do it much more.
Men (like you ironically) tend to want to believe the best about their women. This gullibility, coupled with women's more sophisticated psychological makeup, makes it easier to deceive men into believing that women are on average more faithful than men, when at best they're *as* unfaithful.
As for the Alpha/Beta thing, it is a real and demonstrable dynamic in nature and in society, but I think the fact that it's used on the internet so much ("alpha as fuck bro/beta as fuck") has soured you on its legitimacy.
>>27088310
Women probably do cheat as much as men, I just used it as an example because the internet hivemind seem to demonize women cheating when I've always seen men do it to such worse extents.
I don't believe the "best" about women and think they're more faithful, I think they're different than males for a lot of reasons but still pretty human and the reasons for a lot of their actions are identical to the reasons for male.
And I agree that Alpha/Beta is a thing but is completely misrepresented. girls aren't going to want a guy who is clingy or dependent but that doesn't mean it's black and white and they're immediately attracted to the exact opposite. there seems to be this misconception that to be an "alpha" someone has to have so little respect for themself that they morph their personality into a stereotypical, predetermined "super masculine" mindset.
the irony with the entire red pill idealogy is that it's a giant paradox. it's supposedly about how meaningless women and relationships are when the entire thing is a sexual/relationship strategy. most people I know in real life don't actually place much attention on their relationship and instead on hobbies, friends, education etc etc. the core idea of it is "not to put pussy on a pedestal" but the irony is that the entire red pill is based on exactly that, putting pussy on a pedestal, while the rest of society don't really care.
you worry too much about having a woman in your life. get over it.
You could do something better with your fucking life than arguing about this. You're so fucking weak.
stupid little brat. Someday you'll realize this is not a BIG problem. Your problem is that you care about others feelings and bla bla bla.
>>27088017
Exactly, anon. I don't know what that guy was going on about with the whole "fire sale prices" thing. That just isn't true.
its because /r9k/ has several very vocal very butthurt virgins that cant fuck supermodels so they hate every single woman.
>>27086175
>I apologized
You fucked up.
>>27087146
>>27087214
These tbqhaf
>>27085031
>And why are you not aiming at your own attractiveness and status bracket?
You say that as if doing it is some kind of guarantee that you're going to find someone.
>>27085238
ahahaha good luck
>>27088756
Actually it's about lack of opportunity in all respects. Women and lots of foreigners in the workforce leads I crime and homelessness. Women never should have been allowed to vote.
>>27085958
rekt
he didn't even try to respond lol
>>27088017
>nothing but a nice jaw line and six pack abs
Found the lardo.
>>27084926
What if they are legitimately okay with being cucked and having open relationships?
any of the rest just have fat 2/10 gfs
>>27088580
>the internet hivemind seem to demonize women cheating when I've always seen men do it to such worse extents.
Well your anecdotes don't corroborate the available data, and society itself demonizes unfaithful men, so for the "internet hivemind" to vent about unfaithful cunts sometimes hardly seems out of line.
>the reasons for a lot of their actions are identical to the reasons for male.
Nnnnnnnope.
> there seems to be this misconception that to be an "alpha" someone has to have so little respect for themself that they morph their personality into a stereotypical, predetermined "super masculine" mindset.
I think that's the caricatured meme version that people use as a means of discrediting the Alpha/Beta dynamic.
You'll find a more concrete idea here
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/11/101109133227.htm
>the core idea of it is "not to put pussy on a pedestal"
I guess, even though I've never read up on the "red pill" in the male/female dynamic context, only the Matrix movies context.
>but the irony is that the entire red pill is based on exactly that, putting pussy on a pedestal,
I don't see how pussy being part of the frame of the conversation makes it "pedestalized".
>while the rest of society don't really care.
Gotta stop you there. Our society is definitely matri-centric. The entire purpose of a man's life is, in the overall social hivemind even today with monogamy and marriage on life support, to eventually marry and support a woman and make more taxpayers and workers for the future. If you don't do this, if you remain single for too long, you're perceived...differently. Certainly more negatively. Humans tend to conflate attractiveness with moral virtue and higher worth as a human being, but some of the worst men in history were fucking killing it. Ted Bundy for fucks sake, holy shit. Charles Bronson.
The "WAW" or Women Are Wonderful effect is real and demonstrable. We live in something of a gynocracy in most arenas.
>>27089450
what's your line of thinkin here, son?
Only the alpha male in a pack of wolves gets to have sex with all the females and reproduce. The rest just watch.
Same is for our society. Only chads gets to reproduce and get all the women while the rest of men stay virgin.
>>27085181
Platonic Love, your argument is invalid.
>>27089929
meh, however you want to see life I guess :}
>>27085228
>maybe women find you unapproachable and hard to love because you assume right off the bat that they're promiscuous
>women
>giving two shits about me
>>27085830
Why do you care? No women will go near me or be intimate with me, so there's no way for me to hurt them.
Why do you care that people have a warped perception that doesn't fit with your perception?
>>27085018
You are so full of shit. I'm ugly and I get attention from 7's and 8's frequently. I've also had friends who had really hot girlfriends despite being average at best. You'd be surprised how many hot girls have bad self esteem and think they're ugly; these are the types who show me attention.
>>27085812
kek
actual great analogy
>>27090974
>typical contrarian anecdote
>posts no proof
>>27090974
>I get attention from 7's and 8's
Of course you do, looking at an ugly person is like looking at a train wreck, unpleasant but you can't help it
>>27090990
Meh. Not really.
The allegory of the cave is nothing revolutionary, and other subcultures/ideologies have long since beat us to the creation of said cave.
The people who decry r9k as manbabbies are often the most butthurt and need to grasp for nice, easy straw.
>>27086067
Best reply in the thread.
Yeah normies, we're all losers, you're right. Now please leave and don't come back, you don't have to in the first place.
>>27084926
Everyone wants their ideal mate but everyone ends up settling for what they can get.
How can you retards go your entire fucking life without realizing this?
If women weren't so stupid and lacking assertiveness they would realize that they could get much better quality guys just by trying. How many girls just sit back and wait in life until some guy acceptable guy eventually comes along and she finds him moderately attractive and moderating interesting so they start dating and she just goes along with it?
In other words, women want better just like men want better but women just fail to pursue better. It's probably a mixture of natural and societal factors.
>>27085830
So work to compete against people who compete without having to work? Unfair deal.
>NOBODY GETS A FAIR DEAL YOU AUTIST, REEEEEEE
You just said Chad did you cocksucker, fuck you.
>>27089929
REKT
Based anon.
>>27085018
I bet they ended up in family and they pump out so much children
They are most likely religious.
>>27089929
And women STILL think they can judge character post-Ted Bundy.
>>27090112
This right here is the best part of these threads.
A normie comes and starts spouting the usual bullshit, proceeds to lose every single argument and have every point refuted and then just goes "h-hehe w-whatever bye :^)"
And it never gets old.
>>27084926
>okay but what about the millions of men who aren't perfect chad but are happily in love? bald men, short men, dicklets, fatties, the mentally ill, all sorts of men have found love.
>millions
Thats not a lot of people in a world of 7 billion. Besides in countries where women aren't as liberated this kind of stuff doesn't happen.
Fact: as more women become "liberated" they more they whore themselves out to the highest bidder.
Fact: No guy will turn down sex and therefore females can get anyone they want
In a different time robots would only be the lowest of the low. These days 6/10 looking men can be robots until the age of 30 when women want them. By the age of 30 it will be too late. We have a bad taste in our mouths and have already accepted the fact that we will die alone rather than support a whore.
This is how the dark ages will come about. Men who have no reason to live are frustrated get behind a cause and fight for it to fill their meaningless lives.
>>27085101
>I want to believe i'm never going to have companionship
>>27090974
>You'd be surprised how many hot girls have bad self esteem and think they're ugly; these are the types who show me attention.
Too bad most women in my country have some semblance of self-esteem
Plus i'm really socially fucked
>>27085193
This, male virgin shaming and female slut shame is the most logical thing to do as a society, i'm a virgin myself and i admit that i'm a failure
>>27085387
The problem for us is that we're living in an anarcho-tyranny. What is an anarcho-tyranny, you ask? It's not a political system but a way of life where we (beta males) are fucked by either side. The tyranny who tries to cuck us with the law if we try to do anything in life ever (the police, the baby boomers with power and authority, etc) and the anarchy (criminals, chads, cunts and general scumbags) who literally want to kill us, subdue us and steal our resources or women.
When they ask why I committed suicide, I'll let everyone know this.
>>27085716
But now we have heaps of entertainment, we have placebos in place to counter not getting a partner. Extremely accessible videogames, movies, music, heaps of porn. This is why the "beta uprising" simply won't happen, there are too many distraction for beta men to unify.
>>27084926
>have robot bf
>he keeps chanting chad at every second and wants to desperately be chad even though im already with him(hes not chad)
Okay, its not that bad but what an annoying fucker.
>>27094994
Also I think men are more obsessed with Chad than women are.
The real problem is how many girls have already lost their virginities by 18. I can't understand how anyone can genuine love a girl who's already been intimate with others. This puts me in an uncomfortable position of having to find a decent girl before the odds get too hard to deal with.
>>27094960
This entertainment is a stop gap at best. I don't see how playing games and jacking off is a sufficient enough simulacra for emotional and sexual pair bonding with a human female to really serve as a suitable alternative long term.
Not to mention the real roadblock; women themselves. They don't want easily available porn. They don't want VR sex or sex robots. It would mean the end of men vying for them and giving them resources in exchange for sexual release.
They're extremely insecure about guys they don't even want to fuck getting their rocks off some other way.
There's no way around it; a society in which the men are sexually frustrated will always fail. That masculine energy will mostly go one of 2 ways; low paying jobs making just enough money to support oneself while playing games and jacking off, or being a dominant, violent player and gangbanger.
Guess which one women would rather fuck and breed with? The latter more often than not.
Some men will be unmotivated and placid, others will be hyperviolent thugs. We're seeing it now.
No matter how you cut it, it's not good long term.
>>27095120
I can tell you put women on a pedestal already.
>>27095224
I'd actually really like to take care of a girl who's worth it, but most just disgust and disappoint me.
>>27095263
>>27095263
you mean a thing whos on your pedestal, and not her as an actual person.
>>27085228
I used to think like you until I got a cute gf and two weeks in she decided to go hang out and do drugs with like 5 other dudes and get fucked sideways.
"wow why are you so paranoid, I didn't do anything bad, I think, I don't remember! I don't think I did anything bad though so what?"
>>27095426
Were you seriously expecting a cute girl to not cheat? Can't have your cake and eat it
>>27095426
>attractive
>druggo
>not a cheating slimebag
Not our fault you ignored obvious redflags.
>>27095503
>>27095519
>attractive is a redflag
>>27095526
More attractive = more potential mates = more opening for cheating. Statistically correct. Your own fault.
>get a gf
>forced to be unemotional alpha ''bad boy'' so she doesn't cuck me
cool gender
