[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
What was your political stance 10 years ago? What is it now?
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /r9k/ - ROBOT9001

Thread replies: 255
Thread images: 74
File: 1457235524166.png (30 KB, 645x510) Image search: [Google]
1457235524166.png
30 KB, 645x510
What was your political stance 10 years ago? What is it now?
>>
File: 1455595019097.jpg (78 KB, 750x634) Image search: [Google]
1455595019097.jpg
78 KB, 750x634
>>27073314
those images are the fuckin best tbqh
god bless pol
>>
>>27073330
Yeah, I can do an image dump if requested.
>>
>>27073369
please dont, some reddit faggots are lurking and waiting for this
>>
>>27073369
go for it man
recently lost all my saved pics so it'd be nice
>>
File: 1450265171544.gif (875 KB, 320x240) Image search: [Google]
1450265171544.gif
875 KB, 320x240
>>27073411
>>27073369
dont do it man , this is fuckin worse then reddit thats b tier
>>
>>27073314
Me 10 years ago: "Barack Obama seems like a good Senator and I am glad to have him representing me"

Me now: "Barack Obama seems like a good president and I am glad to have him representing me"

We need more black people in Congress
>>
File: 1456335746184.jpg (68 KB, 716x640) Image search: [Google]
1456335746184.jpg
68 KB, 716x640
>10 years ago
Die hard liberal socialist
>Now
Having a hard time deciding between Libertarian and Traditionalist, been in a state of transition lately
>>
File: Untitled.png (38 KB, 916x673) Image search: [Google]
Untitled.png
38 KB, 916x673
>>27073411
sure bro its all yours :)
>>
File: diversity.jpg (90 KB, 600x888) Image search: [Google]
diversity.jpg
90 KB, 600x888
I was 16, I thought making fun of George W was funny
>>
In 2004 I was 18 and voted for Michael Badnarik (the Libertarian candidate for president).

In the current year, I am going to be voting for Bernie Sanders in the democratic primary when it hits my state in a month.

I grew up and stopped being selfish.
>>
>>27073496
Four white men ARENT diverse because all four represent the oppressive mainstream, while 4 black people represent the oppressed minority class and is therefore okay. It's an issue when the oppressed have no voice, not when there's less people defending the oppressive group
>>
File: 56565465465465.png (156 KB, 2526x1688) Image search: [Google]
56565465465465.png
156 KB, 2526x1688
>>27073314
>>27073330
Kek top notch stufff
>>
>>27073546
>implying white men aren't an oppressed minority
check your privilege, transhomo scum
>>
File: 1457236725658.jpg (27 KB, 673x600) Image search: [Google]
1457236725658.jpg
27 KB, 673x600
>>27073459
Let me guess, you're black.
>>
>>27073615
Lmao yes the group with the highest employment rate, highest wages, and is the majority of the population is an oppressed minority
>>
>>27073546
>oppressed
what country or world are you living in?
>>
>>27073645
I'm just not ignorant af and have an education
>>
>>27073650
One where blacks are locked up and stripped of their rights at a ratio of six to one to white people, despite arrest rates between the two races falling roughly along demographic lines.
>>
File: 6bkX8lx.jpg (202 KB, 912x1793) Image search: [Google]
6bkX8lx.jpg
202 KB, 912x1793
>>27073666
"We need more black people in Congress"

I wonder why you specified black people, why not asians and latinos as well in that statement. Obviously you want to benefit your own people. Not too far off from the whities eh.
>>
trump is based i hate niggers XD make america great again! stupid libtard SJWs.
>>
>>27073369
Is there a collection of them somewhere?

Make an imgur folder or something fampai
>>
10 years ago

>pretty liberal, but hated political parties

now

>pretty moderate, but I hate political parties
>>
>>27073314
>What was your political stance 10 years ago?

I wasn't aligned with any specific party, if that's what you're asking. There aren't enough parties in the U.S. (at least, those worth voting for) to represent everyone's values, so people end up pigeon-holing themselves in with Republicans or Democrats.

My social and economic views ten years ago are probably mostly identical to what they are now. I guess I would summarize those as:
>Mind your own fucking business.
>Keep the government out of our personal lives as much as possible.
>Keep religion out of state affairs.
>Don't let big corporations systematically exploit their workers, deceive the public, shit all over the environment or outsource cheap labor.

Yes, I'm pro gun for all you /k/ommados and /pol/lacks. I'm also pro LGBT rights, pro choice and frankly don't give a shit what sort of lifestyle anybody leads as long as it doesn't encroach on anyone else's rights.
>>
File: 1457234400516.png (40 KB, 750x700) Image search: [Google]
1457234400516.png
40 KB, 750x700
I won't do a full dump but here's a few.
>>
>>27073706
What if they are just different?
Should we change the law so less of them get put in there?

Should we have a racist law that give blacks a free get out of jail free card?

Do the crime do the time just like everyone else.
>>
Open minded liberal "freethinker" who thought that giving literally everybody a voice in matters was the best way

Now I'm a Christian who is mostly socially conservative but I still have some different opinion than your typical right winger

Politics really don't matter though. Shit is fucked
>>
File: 1457236939428.png (55 KB, 1152x648) Image search: [Google]
1457236939428.png
55 KB, 1152x648
Such a lovely political climate.
>>
File: 1457235701075.jpg (51 KB, 659x473) Image search: [Google]
1457235701075.jpg
51 KB, 659x473
>>27073779
I think what he's saying is that if some people get away with crimes its not fair to the people who get caught.
>>
>>27073779
>society creates a cyclical system of black children going to terrible schools and having no prospects
>commit crime
>become felons and have even less prospects
>have kids
>cycle repeats

But yes tell me how the white experience is the same as the black experience in America
>>
File: 1457234601011.png (45 KB, 1143x819) Image search: [Google]
1457234601011.png
45 KB, 1143x819
Also what's with suddenly changing definitions of words to suit one's argument and not accepting a dictionary definition as proper?
>>
>>27073706
Whites also get locked up and I really dont see how more blacks ending up in jail makes them anymore oppressed then the white man, mexican man and asian man.
>>
I was a big dumb conservative with inconsistent views.

Now I'm a big dumb decentralist with inconsistent views, because I really like non-dogmatic leftism but also honour and chivalry I know, tips fedora, supreme gentleman, ect. as found in a lot of right-wing beliefs.

>>27073891
Because anyone who doesn't agree with my definitions are a Nazi communist fascist Bolshevik.
>>
>>27073770
I'd like some more, please
>>
File: imagirl.png (139 KB, 648x648) Image search: [Google]
imagirl.png
139 KB, 648x648
here you go champ :))
>>
>>27073919
Whites and blacks get arrested at similar rates, but one grouo has a much higher conviction rste and incarceration rate. In other words, the police believe them to be guilty at similar rates, but they receive different results in the crimjnal justice system. If you get arrestes as a black male you are exponentially more likely to be convicted than you are if you are white
>>
File: 1457235494011.jpg (21 KB, 600x400) Image search: [Google]
1457235494011.jpg
21 KB, 600x400
>>27073935
Here you go, anon. Another beautiful catastrophe.
>>
>>27073760
>Yes, I'm pro gun for all you /k/ommados and /pol/lacks. I'm also pro LGBT rights, pro choice and frankly don't give a shit what sort of lifestyle anybody leads as long as it doesn't encroach on anyone else's rights.

Muh nigga. Why can't more people have this sort of sense?
>>
>>27073314
I was a bluepilled conservative then; I am a redpilled moderate now.
>>
File: Succa.png (14 KB, 537x254) Image search: [Google]
Succa.png
14 KB, 537x254
I made this a while ago in attempt to make a meme. Seems it would fit this thread.
>>
>>27073890
>society creates a cyclical system of black children going to terrible schools and having no prospects.
How did they do this?

Do you have a solution that isnt racist and tell me more about this system someone made and how they did it?

I live in canada where this race issues isn't a thing here and we pretty much have the same system.
>>
File: 1457236708971.gif (39 KB, 1000x1191) Image search: [Google]
1457236708971.gif
39 KB, 1000x1191
The ride just never ends. Whee.
>>
File: 1452569092942.jpg (159 KB, 794x638) Image search: [Google]
1452569092942.jpg
159 KB, 794x638
Bonus pic number 1.
>>
>>27073959
>arrested at similar rates
These arrests only matter if we know what they're arrested for.........I mean if you look at the asian arrest rate its super low is that because the cops dont care if the asian man is selling heroin ?
>>
File: CFT overview.png (38 KB, 1190x835) Image search: [Google]
CFT overview.png
38 KB, 1190x835
>>27074013

These too, but never found a tagline for Piss Mug.
>>
File: Pepecrying02.jpg (89 KB, 644x781) Image search: [Google]
Pepecrying02.jpg
89 KB, 644x781
>>27073314
>>27073330
>>27073607
>>27073844


ALL THESE CARTOONS SORT OF LOOK LIKE ME JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP SENPAI
>>
File: 1447983739588.jpg (132 KB, 640x960) Image search: [Google]
1447983739588.jpg
132 KB, 640x960
Bonus pic number 2.
>>
>>27074064

So desperately trying to figure it out. So sad.
>>
>>27074063
I honestly just drew myself.
>>
>>27074063
They look like you physically or is this how you act?
>>
>>27073314
I was a staunch liberal/democrat, bordering on socialist.

Then I went to college and saw how lazy, dishonest, and entitled such people were.
That first semester was a huge wakeup call for me.
>>
>>27074013
It's a shit meme but I'll save it anyway because R A R E
>>
>>27073314
Conservative
Conservative
>>
>>27073314
>democrat
>republican three years later
>libertarian for 2 years
>communist phase
>now fascist
>>27073955
This sums up every femanon thread, every trip fag
>>
File: 1452143349163.jpg (105 KB, 690x960) Image search: [Google]
1452143349163.jpg
105 KB, 690x960
I used top be a right-winger and christian fundamentalist.

Then I learned the basics of critical thinking and shifted into a libertarian world view.

Then I learned a bit more about human nature and realized that libertarianism would just let the rich control everything and rule over everyone else without any moral or ethical restrictions.

I'm slowly becoming a populist national socialist. I also kind of like non-bulshevized communism.

Conservatives and libertarians are puppet philosophies used by the rich to divide and conquer the poor and middle class.

You have to be mentally challenged to think the rich aren't your enemy.
>>
>>27074064
That's just depressing.
I feel bad for her.
>>
File: calvin hobbes terrorist cut.png (387 KB, 607x441) Image search: [Google]
calvin hobbes terrorist cut.png
387 KB, 607x441
>>27073314
>Implying that the average 4chan/r9k poster had any real political stances 10 years ago when he was 8 or 9 years or or even younger

but anyways I'm 30 year old so:


10 years ago:

Economic: capitalism bad, socialism (in the Nordic sense) good, vaguely anarchist.

Social: everyone regardless of their ethnicity and gender and sexual orientation deserves respect and equality, including religious people, but I still think that trannies and a lot of homosexuals are crazy sex freaks but hey that's life.

Today:
Economic: same

Social: same, except now I'm more feminist and also that trannies and tranny-enablers should be sent to red-education camps.


but also overall I'm a lot less radical for most things. 10 years ago I was a dumpster-diving freegan who was concerened about saving Tibet and saving Palestine and saving the Amazon rainforest and saving the Ice Caps and now I'm more concerned with saving myself first, and the rest of the entire god damn world later and I eat regular food that doesn't come from a dumpster. and also gave up on the anarchism meme. It's not happening anywhere in my lifetime.
>>
>>27074185
You'll never know the deep sorrow of a fat black woman.
>>
File: 63514.gif (2 MB, 459x383) Image search: [Google]
63514.gif
2 MB, 459x383
I was a marxist-leninist following the line of Enver Hoxha

now I'm a Marxist-Trumpist

Jokes aside, I don't really stick to a concrete political stance. I've read fascist, libertarian, conservative, and socialist literature, and they all have their good points.
/pol/ and experiencing the SJW left first hand has destroyed a lot of my liberal illusions regarding race/sex/religion, but I still have no ill will towards different groups as long as they can respect boundaries and leave others alone.
>>
Labour then Labour now, not a fan of Corbyn though.
>>
>>27074200

You seem like an interesting chap. Are you familiar with the concept of permaculture.

If you are or were concerned about saving the world you can honestly help it immensely through gardening with an ecological mind.
>>
File: 7118129.jpg (36 KB, 338x450) Image search: [Google]
7118129.jpg
36 KB, 338x450
>>27073314
Fascist. Always and forever.
>>
File: 1427998290794.jpg (30 KB, 500x359) Image search: [Google]
1427998290794.jpg
30 KB, 500x359
>>27073314
>What was your political stance 10 years ago?
I hate everybody.
>What is it now?
I hate everybody more. Also, I hate my body now too.
>>
>>27074269
What made you hate your body now?
>>
>>27074298
Getting old. It's betraying me in a new ways pretty much every month at this point. Other than just looking like shit more all the time, it functions worse too.
>>
>>27073607
Stupid one.. I don't see what's wrong with MGTOW.
>>
Past: Neo Nazi to remove the scum from this planet.

Now: I'm radical on the right but wouldn't go as far as I used to think was necessary.
>>
>>27073760
>What is libertarianism
>>
10 years ago: anarchist
now: anarchist
>>
File: collecting firewood.jpg (69 KB, 431x324) Image search: [Google]
collecting firewood.jpg
69 KB, 431x324
>>27074246
Vaguely familiar. I'm looking it up now.

I was also a green anarchist and then anarcho-primitivist, amongst other things, during my anarchist years and hung out with other dumpster divers and lots of rooftop/guerilla gardeners.


It's not like I gave up, but more like whatever happens in the Arctic or North Korea or Brazilian rainforest or Palestine or wherever else that isn't my city isn't something that I can REALLY change. I stopped taking other people's problems and making them a source of stress for me. I'm more focused on the whole "be the change you want to see in the world" instead of trying to force to give a shit about a never-ending amount of issues and causes. I still try to be as green as possible and I'm sure that once I move out I'll be dumpster-diving out of necessity instead of a youthful rebellious principle.
>>
>>27074170
And what if you end up rich?
>>
>>27074380
Which flavour of anarchism senpai?

Or are you one of those "throw bricks at McDonalds first, worry about the infrastructure and the economy and conflict resolution in an anarchist society later" nondescript anarchists who believe in "anarchy" rather than Anarchism?
>>
>>27074018
Of course. Throughout post-Civil War, there were many laws and business practices that created the situation, among them things like Jim Crow Laws, racially restrictive access to credit, redlining, 100 to 1 sentencing for crack compared to cocaine, the funding of schools through property taxes, disproportionate use of government public works money in affluent areas, and disconnection from basic resources like trauma hospitals and mass transit (most notable in Chicago's South Side). As a result of a century of blatantly discriminatory laws, black neighborhoods became impoverished. These neighborhoods, being poor, generate very little property tax revenue, which leaves very little funding towards the schools. As result, black students go to crumbling, underfunded schoools, then we act surprised they don't have the same results as white kids.

To further highlight the effects of the cycle of poverty, look at Appalachia. This region is white but is facing the same cyclical poverty for the same reason: the people of these regions do not have the same resources those from better-off places do.

There are several policies that will go a long way in helping to relieve this burden that aret not in any way "racist". First, prevent employers from checking for nonviolent, nonsexual felonies. This gives people who have committed crime and been a part of the cycle a chance to fix their life after they committed a crime and have served their time. A sentence should only be a life sentence if you are sentenced to life, and your life after serving your time shouldn't be destroyed as well.

Second, schools should be funded statewide or nationally, proportionate to the student population size and the amount of money needed to maintain and modernize facilities.

Third, public works resources should be distributed evenly and efforts need to be made to connect areas with public services and transportation.

Other policies exist, but this is a good start point
>>
>>27074416
What if he accidentally gained magical flying powers? You ever think of that?

>Americucks actually think there's a realistic chance of people "becoming" rich.
>They STILL don't know the vast majority of people inherit wealth or luck out.
>>
>>27074170
> Non-bulshevized communism
What do you mean by that?

I ask because I think I find myself in that weird left-nazi or right-socialist corner, too.
It's like, after WWII, there's been a weird leftist doublethink on the idea of nationalism.
All nationalism in 'white' countries is made equivalent to hitler, whereas nationalism is cool when it's third-world and anti-colonialist.
- They have never budged from this position, even when the gap between first and third world has narrowed a great deal, and many 'white' countries are falling apart.
>>
>>27073314
>10 years ago
Goddam businesses always fucking over the honest working man, free shit for everyone.
>now
Everyone gets what they deserve, capitalism is perfect when complimented by a competent government that only focuses on market failures and the good of the people.
>>
File: capitalism.jpg (479 KB, 900x600) Image search: [Google]
capitalism.jpg
479 KB, 900x600
>>27074493
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar and also this is an original comment I hope.
>>
File: 1430891125293.jpg (490 KB, 1000x1000) Image search: [Google]
1430891125293.jpg
490 KB, 1000x1000
28 here.
Greentext is 10 years ago, black text is today
>Pro-choice
Overpopulation is a very real problem and the west could benefit from a painless deflation via birth control methods.
>Anti-2nd
Living among criminals has opened my eyes to the consequences of leaving seniors and solitary citizens defenseless. No 60-year old man is going to win a fist fight with a couple of thugs trying to rape his family and steal his valuables. On top of that, there is an invisisble figure of crime prevented by the deterrent uncertainty of whether a homeowner carries.
>Pro-SNAP
Still pro-snap but feel it should be altered to prohibit unhealthy or overpriced foods like Doritos and lobster
>Anti-war
Still anti-war because we haven't been in a justifiable one in decades. Everything Gaddafi warned would happen in Europe after he's gone has already come to pass and that whole region becomes more fundamentalist and volatile every time we intervene.
>Pro-women's rights
Realized women already have all the rights men have and are now just fighting for legislative privileges to combat men's imaginary privileges.
>Pro-immigration
In America, yes. Even if the "melting pot" concept was fabricated in an early 20th century play, we have the luxury of an ideal pool of adjacent nations to gather immigrants from. Europe's model can't survive with their immigrants who refuse to assimilate... They will be picked clean and abandoned.
>100% inheritance tax
This was my jealousy talking. People have every right to invest in the success of their next generation after a life of hard work.
>Anti-affirmative action
I'm now in favor of affirmative action, but not in its current form. Instead of stilting performance evaluations of minorities, applications should disguise the applicant's identity. Hide name, birthplace, ethnicity, and switch to mandatory online applications.
cont'd
>>
File: 1457220129049.jpg (100 KB, 356x600) Image search: [Google]
1457220129049.jpg
100 KB, 356x600
Ten years ago I was an apolitical nine year-old.
Five years ago I was a generic liberal.
Today I'm a fascist.
>>
>>27074564
Overpopulation is not a problem in the west. It's only a problem in places like China and India.
>In America, yes. Even if the "melting pot" concept was fabricated in an early 20th century play, we have the luxury of an ideal pool of adjacent nations to gather immigrants from. Europe's model can't survive with their immigrants who refuse to assimilate... They will be picked clean and abandoned.
Hispanic immigrants won't assimilate either. They've turned huge swaths of America into Mexico 2, so they have no need to Anglicize.
And they're not as violent as Muslims, but they still have horrible effects on our society with the amount of crime they commit and welfare they take. Plus they send a lot of their money straight back to Mexico, which strengthens their economy at our expense.
>>
>>27074603
Thanks kid, come back when you're done with puberty and can legally drink.
>>
I used to be a conservative

Then I found out the gays and weed were cool and there is no Abrahamic God

Now I'm a Deist and somewhat Libertarian, however I do believe in public funded education done by for profit schools who compete yearly based on results for the contracts up through college as well as public infrastructure because both of those strengthen the economy in the long run. No handouts, euthanize retards.
>>
>>27074660
You sound really, really, cool and wise
>>
>>27074655
>>27074564

Overpopulation isn't a problem anywhere, on a global scale at least. Of course there are cities where traffic is bad and shit, but on a global scale overpopulation isn't a real thing.

Waste and over-consumption of resources is the real problem.

Buying a new smartphone every year and throwing the old one in the trash while maintaining golf courses and fruit farms in the middle of the desert is not a sustainable way of life regardless of how many people do it.
>>
>>27074753
Not him but you sound underage and assmad
>>
>>27074760
We should get back down to a billion simply on principle and people who make under 35k/yr shouldn't be allowed to breed.
>>
>>27074772
>implying that a modern world could operate with only a billion people
>implying that anyone here makes above that
>implying that in that world, the main currency won't be seashells and chickens
>>
>>27074564
>Pro-alimony and female custody
Seeing the consequences of the entirety of western civilization being raised by women who neglect and misguide boys, then spoil and refuse to discipline girls has made me realize that a family with no father is no family at all. Men grow up watching their father get divorced because he wasn't fun enough for their mother, then the mother trashes his character, then she enters a relationship with someone more "fun" who will probably beat you while she does nothing, and in the end she'll tell you that being good will bring you happiness and female companionship. Women have too much power to strip innocent men of their finances and parental rights.
>Huge environmentalist
Still a huge environmentalist. Politics don't mean a thing if the Gulf of Mexico is so acidic it can't support marine life. Coral reefs and wetlands are irrefutably vanishing and no head-in-the-sand neocon bullshit will make that less true. Polar ice caps are melting, global sea levels are rising, permafrost is melting, habitat is being cut down to make paper towels, entire regions are morphing into desert, temperatures are rising year-to-date, groundwater is being polluted, freshhwater is becoming scarce... I could go on but I don't want to hit character limit again. The problem isn't industrialization, though it enabled the real problem. It's overpopulation. We dodged the Malthusian ceiling, and now billions of people are demanding more and more luxuries on a per capita basis than our planet can sustain. We're already feeling the consequences of mineral shortages, so instead of 500 million people living decent lives, we'll have 7 billion people savagely binge on our planet until civilization, and maybe humanity, is a thing of the past.
>Social security retirement
A huge ponzi scheme that becomes harder both to escape and perpetuate with every generation. The only way it CAN be sustained is by erasing entire races by drawing in new, uneducated workers.
>>
File: DEATH.jpg (176 KB, 655x551) Image search: [Google]
DEATH.jpg
176 KB, 655x551
IM GOING TO DO IT IF I DON'T TALK TO A FUCKING REAL HUMAN BEING.

(402) 3190276
>>
>>27073314
10 years ago I was a staunch conservative, simply because I was projecting the views of my folks. Now, I'm fairly centrist, though I do have days where I think a benevolent dictatorship might be best for the country.
>>
>>27074816
>implying it couldn't
>implying it wouldn't
>implying it wouldn't improve the world
>implying a billion is a small number
>implying we need a billion mai pings, tulu obootos, and pajeet saleems
>implying we deserve to breed
>>
>>27074767
no YOU sound assmad you fucking FUCK
>>
File: z.gif (8 KB, 320x260) Image search: [Google]
z.gif
8 KB, 320x260
>>27074760
>Waste and over-consumption of resources is the real problem.
Imagine 500 million people consuming these goods compared to 7 billion, or 5 billion if you're not counting backwards shitholes who create a different footprint with unchecked pollution.
>Deodorant, shampoo, conditioner, toothpaste, toothbrush, combs, brushes, tampons, toilet paper, q-tips, face wash, soap
>All electronic goods (phones, TVs, computers, game systems, light bulbs, dishwashers, clothes washers, dryers, haier dryers, etc.)
>Medicine, food, clean water, oils
>Cleaning supplies and farming minerals
>Transportation and home ownership
>Electricity, waste management, plumbing
>Minerals like copper, magnesium, sodium
People say "it's not because there's too many people, it's the factories and distributors who create these problems!" But the factories wouldn't leave such a huge footprint if they weren't responsible for providing for exponential growth of demand.
>>
>>27074454
I like how no one had a response to this. I guess their /pol/ memes failed them.
>>
>>27074918
Senpai, when the earth last had only a billion people the Telegraph didn't exist yet and electricity was a still a useless curiosity.
>>
File: 1454976622080.jpg (59 KB, 551x400) Image search: [Google]
1454976622080.jpg
59 KB, 551x400
>>27074454
>>27075033
Or maybe niggers just can't into civilization.
>>
>>27075033
MJ Mage is a troll, newfag
>>
>>27075056
You're saying technology caused population growth?

Holy fuck, what insight, jesus christ, laying down the wisdom
>>
>>27075013
You couldn't produce and distribute those goods with only 500 million people on the planet, even if they all worked multiple jobs/careers.
>>
>>27075112
You wouldn't need that many goods if there were 500 million, you mongoloid
>>
>>27075095
I'm also saying that technology is mutually dependant with population growth/sustainability.
>>
ITT poorly drawn strawman arguments
>>
>>27075033
CBF senpai
I just wanna look at funny mspaint drawings, not some dindu throwing the standard ITS THE ENVIRONMENT reasoning out despite kangs managing to fuck up every single environment we put them in. Biology is a social construct
>>
>>27075148
It's mutually dependant on standard of living and education. Surplus is the key to specialization. We have the technology for surplus already. Our agraculture is far beyond what it used to be therefore we would still not need for anything an have surplus of goods still.

If you think there are not a superfluous ammount of shitheads just existing and fucking then you are definiately one of them.
>>
File: 1447127659922.jpg (65 KB, 555x503) Image search: [Google]
1447127659922.jpg
65 KB, 555x503
I was born into a fairly conservative household, went through a fairly liberal phase early on in HS, and now I'm almost totally a moderate, nearly to the point of political apathy.

I've seen people on ever gradient of the spectrum, and they're all equally vapid and ready to be pandered to.

I just don't care at this point.
>>
>>27074346
There's nothing inherently wrong with MGTOW. The issue is a lot of retards think they're getting back at women because they'll no longer be orbiting them, when they're the exact people women didn't want attention from to begin with.

If every Chad on the planet suddenly went their own way, women would take notice real quickly.
>>
File: 1454087179988.jpg (194 KB, 1000x700) Image search: [Google]
1454087179988.jpg
194 KB, 1000x700
>>27075152
That's the point. The scary thing is the arguments are used by people in reality.
>>
>>27075131
Please think about it for a second.

The entire world's infrastructure is based on producing goods for 7+ billion people. That's what industrial technology is all about and has been for a century now, mass production. When there isn't enough demand, companies bleed profits and shut down their factories because there's no point in keeping a car factory open all year long with a full staff of IT workers and engineers and janitors and everyone else just to produce like eight cars.

The global economy would just majestically implode into itself like a neutron star.
>>
>>27073314
1. Communism
2. Elitism (as long as you have enough power, money, or status pleb politics don't apply to you)
>>
>>27075112
You could, but the era of corporations would be over. The only incentive for a corporation to exist is for more of the population to commit to their product. This would result in localized economies who enjoy the fruits of 270 years of infrastructural technology advances not available before monopolies became commonplace.
>>
>>27075199
see:

>>27075255

superfluous shitheads is what keeps the economy and modern industrial progress running, for better or for worse.

If you want to live on a planet with pre-electricity levels of population well then that's exactly the type of world you'd be living in.
>>
>>27075255
So we keep toyota and let every other factory shut down.

Obviously 500 million would make less money than 7 billion, but it wouldn't really matter when the 500 million are the intelligent people not the dumb cunts pushing buttons in the factory. An entirely educated population.
>>
>>27075305
Not anymore. The problem then was about surplus. We have the technology to not need a billion pajeets. Read a history book.

Surplus = specialization

Surplus is the key. We have the technology for it.
>>
>>27075302
>localized economies
>everything is manufactured on the other side of planet

???

Senpai you're talking about the end of globalization, that is impossible to undo. That train left the station and has been going full-steam for centuries now.
>>
>>27075370
Engineer a virus that sterilizes thous without a diet with the antidote.

Only those deemed worth of breeding get to.

Read a science fiction book bud, you have no vision.
>>
>>27075325
>>27075362

>A world of super-educated slaves that live in a world where industrial production and the global economy has been magically reduced to 1/14th its size overnight with no negative consequences whatsoever, and also I guess war is also a thing that doesn't exist anymore because everyone is euphoric and enlightened.

ooo boy you like to dream big huh, overriding centuries and millenia of natural prgoress as well as human nature itself. Good luck with that.
>>
>>27075430
Sorry, I like to live in reality when it comes to things that are based in reality like politics and the economy. I enjoyed Starship Troopers as much as the next guy but take it down a notch bro
>>
>>27075441
>slaves
>overnight

I never said either of those things.
>>
>>27075240
>doesn't know what a strawman is
>>
>>27075463
You think that we won't be engineering such things within the next couple hundred years? Was your smartphone a reality 20 years ago?
>>
>>27075483
overnight was exaggerating, obviously, but senpai your pipe dream of a globalized industrial world for ants is going to require SO much forced education and labor

>no it's not

If you say so! I'm out.
>>
was more modern left
now more moderate left/classical liberal/egalitarian
>>
>>27075499
>such things

"reversal of globalization and natural population growth as well as evolution" is not exactly like a tricorder or flying car, no.
>>
>>27075522
We already have forced education in first world countries. Have you not noticed? Besides, with selective breeding only those who have genes from successful and smart parents would be born.
>>
>leftist
>leftist
>>
>>27075255
It's going to hurt, but it will hurt a lot more when world population hits 9.6 billion at the end of this century and everyone starts to wonder where all the potassium and nickel went.

The choices are thus:
>Industrial expansion that will collapse within the century and leave almost 10 billion people, as a whole, unequipped to harness enough energy to live better than Haitians.
>A down-scaled global coalition of modestly large nation-states with the technological progress to access any needed goods across the globe. A new model of responsibility over individuality would be necessary and a large portion of public education would revolve around instilling a sense of duty and urgency without the need for profit while developing aptitudes to benefit society rather than make an uncertain living.

It wouldn't be terribly convenient but it's better than the alternative.
>>
>>27075551
I was speaking about a bioweapon that controls population homeslice. Regardless of whether it isn't human nature to not breed- too fucking bad you can't anyway. Have fun shooting blanks.
>>
>>27073314
Liberal as fuck. Now I lean conservative.

I kind of believe we are fucked no matter what though.
>>
>>27073736
normiebook/fashymemes
page name: counter-signal memes for fashy goys
>>
File: USA-train-map.jpg (105 KB, 569x400) Image search: [Google]
USA-train-map.jpg
105 KB, 569x400
>>27075370
I'm not talking about the end of globalization. Government transportation projects become more ambitious every year, and even in the United States, proposed mono-rails and high-efficiency overseas shipping will make reliance on private transportation less common. The only obstacle to global connectivity in a reasonably-populated world is conveying goods from one continent to another, and those projects to allow globalization in such a world are coming together nicely.
>>
10 years ago: Neocon
Today: Ancien Regime Apologist
>>
>>27075463
Just so you know, you're talking with two or three different people.
>>
>>27075487
90% of arguments are based on strawman anon. in fact more like 97% if you include the entire internet.
>>
ten years ago: generic democrat

now: georgist with anarchist leanings
>>
>>27075223
'Tell Emperors to stand out of my fucking sunlight' EPIC WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY?
>>
>>27073314
Apolitical then and now
>>
10 years ago: Politically apathetic, too young to care.
4 years ago: Centrist
Now: Libertarian
>>
>>27075936
Diogenes

>It was in Corinth that a meeting between Alexander the Great and Diogenes is supposed to have taken place. The accounts of Plutarch and Diogenes Laertius recount that they exchanged only a few words: while Diogenes was relaxing in the sunlight in the morning, Alexander, thrilled to meet the famous philosopher, asked if there was any favour he might do for him. Diogenes replied, "Yes, stand out of my sunlight". Alexander then declared, "If I were not Alexander, then I should wish to be Diogenes." In another account of the conversation, Alexander found the philosopher looking attentively at a pile of human bones. Diogenes explained, "I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave."
>>
File: pepe trump.jpg (79 KB, 1023x724) Image search: [Google]
pepe trump.jpg
79 KB, 1023x724
>>27075700
It would be a shame if Donald Trump got elected and cut all that useless Government spending huh?

Who needs trains when the free market can provide us with wonderful cars and trucks!
>>
>>27076049
Trump and Bernie both exacerbate resource consumption so I'm not excited at all about this election.
>>
I was eight.
>>
>5-10 years ago
Mostly centrist with leftist leaning
>Current Year
Nationalist (with race realist views)

I am not white by any means (mixed) but I believe that races should be sperate from one another and shouldn't be force to mingle or bread with one another (that's how mistakes like me are made when I can't get a gf from any of my half race identiies). The white race in particular is in danger of going extinct and I am willing to do everything in my part to keep the whites pure from the leftist attempts to breed out the idea race as a whole. Identity is what pulls any society together. Mulatto fucks like myself can't identify with any race and it feels so fucking awful. I kind of wish race mixing would be outlawed someday.
>>
also /r9k/ is full of self hating whites. What a way to throw your pure genetics down the drain you mongoloid failed normal fags.
>>
>>27077634
Lighten up, buddy. If cultural trends were different you'd more easily be able to align with one side or another, but right now, you're caught in the middle of a tug of war between Marxists and rednecks. No matter what happens, the next 4 years won't be very bright for any of us.
>>
>>27077739
I guess so. I guess I always was in the middle all along. At least I can avoid making enemies being neutral.
>>
Like countersignal memes for fashy goys on facebook if you crave more of the comics posted in this thread.
>>
>10 years ago
None because I was fucking 10 year old and my focuses were video games and cartoons and I was on the precipice of discovering porn.

>Now
None because I'm fucking 20 years old and my focuses are video games, shows and porn and caring about politics is stupid.
>>
>10 years ago
I was about 12-13, I just thought people should leave each other the fuck alone and unless you did something illegal to another individual you shouldn't be charged for anything. I guess you could say I was libertarian.

>Now
Hatred for liberal retards and right wing fucks all the same, both are as bad as the side they claim to hate. We live in a weird fucking society where brand loyalty has bled into everything, people always have to take a side and justify their stance no matter what and it's retarded. Barely anyone these days takes a step back and logically looks at both sides. I don't even really fit into a political ideology at this point. If anything i'd probably be a right wing populist that isn't anti-elite but that's not even an ideology. I truly believe in being safe with the budget but I also believe our governments goal should be looking out for its citizens and not foreigners. I also believe as long as you aren't hurting someone then who gives a fuck.
>>
>>27073890
You're right. The black experience is different because the average IQ of black people is 15 points lower than the average IQ of whites and people from Asia.
And yes this gap remains exactly the same even when you compare the IQs of white children adopted as babies by affluent white parents with black children adopted as babies by affluent white parents.

Niggers will always be in last place because they're naturally stupid, impulsive, violent subhumans on average.
>>
>>27078030
This. They weren't even good as farm equipment
>>
>>27073314
>10 years ago.
Didn't care.
>today
Hate politician all together.
>>
>>27073314
I don't like jews, refugees and muslim.
I think gaz chambers didn't exist.
I'm a kind of extreme right communist, but the Marx communism.
>>
I thought communism and the soviets were pretty cool because i had played red alert.
Now i'm nationalist, i think national socialism seems pretty good but i haven't looked into the economics of it enough to call myself one.
>>
>>27076317

holy shit. sauce on that pic?
>>
File: 1456906028695.jpg (29 KB, 360x318) Image search: [Google]
1456906028695.jpg
29 KB, 360x318
>16 hard core commie
>26 even more hard core commie
>>
File: 8f0.jpg (126 KB, 443x480) Image search: [Google]
8f0.jpg
126 KB, 443x480
>10 Years ago
Didn't give a shit

>5 years ago
Edgy red pilled fascism

>Now
Moderate middle-right liberal conservatism

>inb4 "LIBERAL CONSERVATISM, HEH NO DAT DOESNT WURK"
>>
>>27074064
Nice try St Francis college viral marketing
>>27074185
reason #1 is whites are skinnier than nogs
>>27074213
all the SBBW blacks I know at clubs go all out when they dance they seem happy
>>
>>27074170
>>27074416
>>27074487

you stupid idiots he meme'd you
>>
>>27073314
10 years ago: muh southern independence

now: Reactionary-fascism.
>>
>>27073314
>10 years
Couldn't give a shit, too young

>5 years
Edgy socialist

>Today
Libertarianism, voluntaryism, free market capitalism, leaning towards anarchism (not the liberal meme anarchism) and minarchism. I can't stand the left or right anymore, they're just a bunch of unruly kids throwing shit at each other for no good reason. I think liberals are worse though because, in my opinion, their entire platform is hypocritical, they're arguing the same stance as the conservatives, but just for a different group of people. In the end both sides are essentially arguing for even more statism and/or fascism.
>>
File: 0ToNMPF.jpg (121 KB, 617x960) Image search: [Google]
0ToNMPF.jpg
121 KB, 617x960
ITT: Pic related

blox
l
o
x
>>
>>27073314
didn't care
don't care
>>
>>27078496
t. underage swordlord
>>
>>27073314
10 years ago: libertarian
now: slightly racist libertarian
>>
I used to be a fucking middle (in those days, more left than right) winged faggot with no idea how the world worked
Then all this sjw shit happened so I decided I may as well play the bad guy
Then I found out I can be who I want to be, and have society change around me
>>27078485
This is actually true, holy shit
although the far right phase was hard publicly, I wouldn't want to be anything other than where I am now
>>
File: 234234243.jpg (444 KB, 670x974) Image search: [Google]
234234243.jpg
444 KB, 670x974
>>27073814
>>27073314
>>27073330
>>27073466
>>27073496
>>27073607
>>27073645
>>27073770
>>27073844
Pure gold

originalblox desu
>>
>>27078496
Someone doing it right.
>>
>>27078556
t. Frankfurt school
>>
>>27078485
>>27078530

Glad to hear your ideologies can be described by a jpg covered with compression artifacts and erroneous logical inconsistencies and vague meme definitions, probably made by a neckbeard. You seem to have a good handle on life and what to do with your free time.

inb4 liberal retard, or other ad hominem
I actually don't have time to care about politics. I'm too busy studying things of value
>>
>>27073314
>full stormfaggot
>still hate kikes but don't try to redpill normies on the kike pill immediately
>>
File: meme15.jpg (60 KB, 990x557) Image search: [Google]
meme15.jpg
60 KB, 990x557
>>27078796
originaloi
>>
>>27078842

Nice a le hat meme for trying to have a discussion. Pretty much the depth of what you are, memes.
>>
File: meme16.jpg (23 KB, 640x480) Image search: [Google]
meme16.jpg
23 KB, 640x480
>>27078938
>pretty much the depth of what you are, memes

There is an idea of Anon; some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me: only memes, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there.
>>
>>27078988

Nice an american psycho reference. Pretty much the depth of what you are, memes and references.
>>
File: meme17.jpg (50 KB, 780x437) Image search: [Google]
meme17.jpg
50 KB, 780x437
>>27079005
I have all the characteristics of a human being: blood, flesh, skin, hair; but not a single, clear, identifiable emotion, except for memes and disgust. Something horrible is happening inside of me and I don't know why. My nightly shitposting has overflown into my days. I feel lethal, on the verge of frenzy. I think my mask of sanity is about to slip.
>>
>>27073647
The fact that you disagree with him is only proving him right, whites are the only people who are "oppressed". You can't do anything without being called racist or sexist or "white cis male".
>>
File: 1457678322960[1].png (45 KB, 612x359) Image search: [Google]
1457678322960[1].png
45 KB, 612x359
>>27073314
>10 years ago
The government should tell me what I should study, what job I should work, find me a wife and tell me what diner I need.
Basically I believed most people cant be trusted with making decisions, so a group of specialists should make them and distribute them.

>Now
I want to be left alone to browse 4chan and jerk off after getting done with my brain murdering office job. Basically rotting away, because I am too lazy to act.
I still think people should be forced to live properly, but at this point in time I am beyond salvation and I'd just be killed if my dream system were to be enacted.
>>
>>27074170
>all value is created by labour
Sweet, I spent the last two months drawing this piece of fanart of Sonic shitting on a Bic Mac and serving it to a catgirl! Surely the amount of labour I put in it makes it worth more than a piece of gold that someone found on the ground!
>>
>>27073314
>leftist
>still lefitst (but now we have sjw's and it makes things worse)
>>
>>27075232
This pretty much

I used it initially to distance myself from other people and hopefully focus on developing my own personal skills more without needing to look after another person

But of course that's not something I need to worry about anyway, just not really a reason for it in my situation

I still don't associate with MGTOW due to the horrible connotation it carries with it, its better to simply not mention it to people to avoid shit
>>
File: argument-typo.jpg (32 KB, 735x541) Image search: [Google]
argument-typo.jpg
32 KB, 735x541
plz dump all of these
>>
>>27073314
>Tree houses for all Kids.
>Mondays are days off.
>Summer holidays last 50% off

Ten years was too long ago for most of this board.
>>
Somebody post that "dude you don't get it the music is SUPPOSED to be shitty" one
>>
>>27074655
This is our fucking country, we conquered it. And we gonna reconquer it from these fucking wetbacks and ragheads if it comes down to it. So, just because overpopulation ain't a problem now, doesn't mean shit.
>>
>>27080118
That is me now.
10 years ago I had compassion.
>>
I used to believe in socialism/communism. I cringe when I think about middle school/high school times. My mom has these books about anthropology, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Marx and other books written by radical leftists from my country. My dad is leftist as well but not as radical as my mom. They really hate jews tho.

I believed in that crap because I admired my parents so much when I was a kid. Now I'm grown up, I can understand the spooky nonsense my mother says. She's totally brainwashed.
>>
None, political system is broken. It always was and will always be. I would like to see it burn in my lifetime.
>>
Socialism/Communism
Now I still hold these views but I'm not dumb enough to believe them and the left is utter shit now, I'd revive Che or Tito just to shoot their asses or throw them in a prison. I guess you could say centre-left for internal, and centre-right for external politics.
>>
Whatever my parents voted for

Whatever /pol/ votes for
>>
>>27073314
>2006 commie
>2016 libertarian

Please, release me from the edgyness
>>
>>27073314
Was: Monarchist
Is: Monarchist
>>
>>27078796
>erroneous logical inconsistence
>doesn't give specific examples
>probably made by a neckbeard
>inb4 ad hominem
>muh things of value meme :^)
How about you stop with your gender studies for a brief moment and try to be less of a hypocritical retarded faggot ?
Also, try arguments next time if you want to prove something, libcuck.
>>
>>27073314
Meritocracy
Technocracy
>>
File: 1452963459794.png (40 KB, 825x635) Image search: [Google]
1452963459794.png
40 KB, 825x635
>>27073369
dumping some moreeee
>>
File: 1454702498008.png (29 KB, 684x479) Image search: [Google]
1454702498008.png
29 KB, 684x479
>>27081317
dumpdumpdumodump
>>
>>27078796
Just fucking kill yourself you literal retard
>>
File: 1454704884457.png (132 KB, 2328x1514) Image search: [Google]
1454704884457.png
132 KB, 2328x1514
>>27081327
dumping another one
>>
>>27073314
I was 9, my political stances included thinking that homework sucked
>>
liberal
liberal
>>
>>27074043
At this point, if I were American I'd vote for Trump simply because I hate the progressive left so much. I'm sick of their identity politics and privilege checking by faggots with victim complexes, I'm sick of them trying to shove their shit down everyone's throat and trying to perpetuate white guilt. They aren't even trying to help people, it's just turned into a massive circlejerk over who can be the most 'progressive'.
>>
>>27074170
I used to not care, then I started spending a lot of time on reddit, thought atheist, socialism, general liberalism was the 'great good' and the right wing was 'evil'. Then I finished college, got a job and grew up....

Marxism has never worked, and never will work. Take a look at history and every nation that has tried to implement Marxist policies. All the self professed 'Marxists' I've never met are ultimate fedora lords who live on welfare or are still in college.
>>
>>27073647
Uhm asians in Usa have a higher standard of living. Lower crime rites etc than white people. But yeah white people are the worst

Also Niggers ruin everything.
>>
Ten years ago I thought (and still do think) that Bush was a fucking embarassment. I couldnt believe he got re-elected, and he ruined the country. I thought I would never become conservative because there was so much shit wrong with America that conservatives were either ignoring or causing.

Now I'm conservative, largely because SJWs have kicked me out with all their cis-scum bullshit and censorship of the arts.
>>
I used to be the whole nine: Earth is literally going to explode if I drive anything other than a Prius; big government is best, especially when they use tax dollars on welfare and other socialist programs without any reform; war is always bad and it was our fault that everybody hates us, fuck the veterans they kill Muslims. I did a quick 180, now I am socially ultraconservative: no sexual decadence, no disrespect of one's nation, body, mind, etc., no degeneracy. On an economic scale, I am not ashamed to say that I am not very well educated in the matter (in that I haven't really taken any courses of analyzed history as much as I should've), but I do realize a good deal that is too good to be true when I see it. Generally, I'd like to think that a benevolent dictatorship or some kind of spinoff republic of some sorts would be the best form of leadership. I think that all economic platforms have the potential to work, but some have obvious shortcomings in many regards that render them useless. I'd say I'm more so towards a purged capitalism (not "fuck the rich for being rich", but don't let them walk all over you). I'd summarize my economic stance by saying that Reagan's limited spending and Thatcher's 'tough love' behaviours are ideal, but can't work, like many things I've stated, mostly due to many social factors that have occurred these past few decades.
>>
File: 1439791889099.jpg (45 KB, 389x390) Image search: [Google]
1439791889099.jpg
45 KB, 389x390
>>27073314
!0 years ago I was le kid and couldn't into politics

Now I believe that wealth needs to be redistributed. I am a socialist

I also believe immigration should be illegal. I am a nationalist.

In short, life has led me down the path of National Socialism.
>>
>10 years ago
Liberal, believing in socialism, hated racism and sexism
>now
Alt right, racist, fascist and misogynist.
I went from The Daily Show to The Daily Shoah.
>>
>>27079379
>most people cant be trusted with making decisions

This is a truism my man
>>
>>27081953
How do you envision wealth redistribution to occur? You have to tread very lightly, because one misstep and you'll have a Bolshevist revolution. Do you believe in "redistribution" in the sense that the neighbourhoods aid in the help of their fellow sisters and brothers, or knocking on the doors at gunpoint asking for money. It is a bit of an oxymoron, but it did work for the NSDAP. I'll have to respectfully disagree with your redistribution part if you go about it in a Communist manner; maybe some insight would help?
>>
File: chart.png (17 KB, 480x400) Image search: [Google]
chart.png
17 KB, 480x400
>>27073330
/pol/ is retarded
SJWs are retarded
True neutral
>>
>>27082001
>Do you believe in "redistribution" in the sense that the neighbourhoods aid in the help of their fellow sisters and brothers

Yes, but you have to remember that nationalism is strongly opposed by the gloablist elite, and they will likely try to take their money and flee to another country

Not saying they're gonna die but, oh well senpai

Furthermore, the economy needs to be restructured around the community, not the other way around
>>
>>27082018
The last line is interesting, but I'm not sure I like what you're saying, if you're alluding to requiring the wealthy to stay and pull up those who are less fortunate or face death. I'm not an advocate for unregulated capitalism or unadulterated socialism, but I think that either side has their shortcomings (not to sound too much like a centrist le superior man), although I have a bias towards socialist beliefs because I believe that they accelerate very quickly, whereas capitalism has the same potential to be "bad", but can be curbed (such "curbing" could also lead to socialism, so we're right back where we started). I do respect Hitler as a leader because of this socially conservative behaviours (for the most part, I've heard rumours about his stance on abortion being pro-choice and other things, but that may just be lost in Yiddish translation), and he made his version of socialism work, but I don't think the word socialism can really refer to the NSDAP's economic policies; it was some offshoot hybrid, perhaps best explained on a multiple-dimension political diagram.
>>
Non-hardcore liberal. Still liberal but closer to the center. Everyone I know who used to be liberal has only gone deeper down the rabbit hole
>>
>>27073459
Get the fuck out and take your diversity over meritocracy mindset with you, nigger.
>>
>>27082101
>not to sound too much like a centrist le superior man

there is literally nothing wrong with being centrist
>>
10 years ago
> Gibs me dat cash Unca Sugar
Now
> Gibs me MOAR!
Don't you people have jobs to go to?
>>
http://imgur.com/a/vu6oQ
http://imgur.com/a/oBZcc
>>
>>27082162
Agreed, so long as you don't adopt South Park syndrome: "Only us, the TRUE fence sitters, have all the answers, making us morally and intellectually superior to anybody who questions us!" Ideally, picking a side would be the endgame; centrism seems to be akin to being undecided and sticking with it, but to each his own.
>>
then
>socially liberal, fiscally conservative
now
>socially liberal, fiscally conservative
>>
>>27073314
10 yrs ago
>hurr Bush for president
Now
>it doesn't fucking matter, it doesn't matter who gets elected, agenda of the few and powerful will carried out just as the same. democrat vs republican argument is a fucking distraction.
>>
>>27082256
>10 years ago
>2006
>Bush was 2 years into his second term.
>>
>>27074357
>What is libertarianism

Nope. The Libertarian Party in the U.S. has been overrun by fiscal conservatives. They got tired of the Republican Party's bullshit and decided to start an exodus to another political party. Now Libertarians are every bit as paranoid and retarded as their Republican counterparts.

Besides, the party wouldn't agree with my economic policies at all.
>>
File: 1456107776610.jpg (150 KB, 512x600) Image search: [Google]
1456107776610.jpg
150 KB, 512x600
/pol/ in a nutshell

I've heard countless arguments about how the rich are superior and smarter, etc

>To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire
>>
>>27073760
>>Mind your own fucking business.
>>Keep the government out of our personal lives as much as possible.
>>Waaah bernie pls protect me from rich people who don't want to give me money
>>
>>27082355
jews, blacks, and women? pol was right
>>
>>27081515
>I hate the progressive left so much

What you're describing isn't the left, it's a minority of Tumblrinas and other social justice idiots that the Democratic Party as a whole couldn't give a shit about.

>if I were American

Clearly you know nothing about this country or its politics. Your exposure to the U.S. is probably limited to some shit blog you read on Tumblr.
>>
File: 1453477859786.jpg (169 KB, 1294x852) Image search: [Google]
1453477859786.jpg
169 KB, 1294x852
>>27082355
/leftypol/ scum is not welcome here
>>
>>27082363
>Waaah bernie pls protect me from rich people who don't want to give me money

I'm not in favor of wealth redistribution, dipshit. I'm not sure how you got that from economic regulations geared toward preserving the environment and not outsourcing labor to third-world shitholes.
>>
>>27082418
>don't let corporations 'exploit' their workers
yeah i dunno how you could have given off that impression at all
>>
>>27082380
>>27082394
keep sucking corp dick my friends
>>
>>27082392
>What you're describing isn't the left, it's a minority of Tumblrinas and other social justice idiots that the Democratic Party as a whole couldn't give a shit about.

But that is where you are wrong. Democrats spout SJW memes during the fucking debates.
>>
>>27082392
>SJWs and Democrats are completely different

No they're not. SJWs have got that party by the balls. Look at Hillary and all her "wage gap, free birth control," feminist crap, look at Bernie acting like he's Santa Clause for minorities.
>>
>>27082392
hillary and bernie are constantly catering to identity politics victimhood pieces of shit.
>>
>>27073314
>10 years ago
center
>now
left or center-left
>>
>10 years ago
Communist
>now
Socialist; anti-capitalism

Hasn't changed much.
>>
America is literally the only country where I see people saying that something as basic as free helthcare is wrong

How the hell are Americucks so stupid?
>>
>>27082462
>don't let corporations 'exploit' their workers

So we should turn a blind eye when companies systematically harass or blackmail their employees? I never said I supported raising the minimum wage or whatever other assumptions you may be reading into.
>>
>>27082140
I mean among the options Obama has been the best choice. Take your racism over meritocracy somewhere else faggot
>>
>>27082498
who is systematically blackmailing and harassing their employees, exactly? especially in a way that is a political rather than criminal matter.
>>
>>27082162
Centrism is stupid because it integrates parts of the right side and the wrong side
>>
File: 1457540796941.jpg (48 KB, 520x604) Image search: [Google]
1457540796941.jpg
48 KB, 520x604
>>27082463
>implying

It's funny since you fags are the (((elite)))'s playthings.

>"Sabotage nationalist march where? Right on it mr. Rothschild, we will be there soon :^)"
>"Y-you're paying us r-right?"
>>
i liked bush because his name was a plant

i was eight

CLASS OF 2016 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>
>>27082476
>hillary and bernie are constantly catering to identity politics victimhood pieces of shit

There's a serious discontinuity between politics and the attitudes actually held by general public. Politicians will cater to as many simultaneous groups as they can, if their PR persons don't think it will *cost* them any votes - i.e. because the general public might not even give a shit about those issues when they're brought up. You're assuming they're catering to a much wider audience with this.

And it's not like Shillary will actually go out of her way to institute half the things she claims to be in favor of. Just a few years ago she was outspokenly opposed to same-sex marriage. Now that it's the "in" thing, she pays lip service to it.

Welcome to the world of American politics. People just want to get into office so they can launder our tax dollars. None of the major players really care about anything except making their boat payments.
>>
>>27082009
>le voice of reason
>i'm smarter than ALL of you lol

Kill yourself
>>
>>27082463
They'll only understand once we let them rule themselves
>>
>>27082577
>IF U DONT THINK IN EXTREMES UR WRONG

Americans, everyone
>>
>>27082574
>hillary is just pandering guys
>ms "women are the primary victims of war" is only pretending to want to screw you over and would certainly never enact her feminist policies
nice cognitive dissonance
>>
File: 1453486181756.png (98 KB, 720x596) Image search: [Google]
1453486181756.png
98 KB, 720x596
>>27082610
Wew lad nice one m9, you really showed that american with your fence-sitter opinion.
>>
>>27082610
>i'm too cucked throwing away rights for temporary safety to have a consistent worldview
and it's working for you so well
>>
>>27082646
>throwing away rights for temporary safety
When exactly did i say this?
>>
>>27082624
>cognitive dissonance

You're grasping at straws. How about you just fuck off back to >>>/pol/ with the rest of your redpilled goober pals.
>>
>>27074013
It's lost its fedora...
>>
>non existent
>somewhere between center-right and far right
>>
File: garbatenosy.jpg (112 KB, 640x360) Image search: [Google]
garbatenosy.jpg
112 KB, 640x360
>>27073314
10 years ago I wanted my country to become an absolute monarchy.

Now I want a Donald Trump-ish politician to lead my country.

I guess I was always against anything democratic. I wished for a strong, king-like ruler with as much power as possible since I started comprehending history in primary school.
>>
>>27082663
>guys i'm a democrat and i don't think my party is full of sjws
actually your party is constantly talking up social justice bullshit
>hurr no they don't actually mean anything they say pls vote for them

you'll never con people here into voting for your party anita
>>
>>27073314
10 years ago trump

now trump
>>
>10 years ago
Libertarian. I used to go to this anti-peta site inhabited by basically what /k/ is now made up of.

>now
Corporatist. What is bad for the beehive cannot be good for the bees, etc
Thread replies: 255
Thread images: 74

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.