http://youtu.be/qvhBNvbuUGQ
Why the fuck does this faggot go after us /r9k/? This faggot atheist attempts to debunk MGTOW
>>27017434
>subculture so ridiculous even atheists can beat them up
Not our fault you guys are physically and mentally weak
>us
this board is not for MGTOW's in fact we hate your kind here. most of you only seek validation from women
>>27017481
>seek validation from women
Get. The. Fuck. Out.
KEK
>>27017557
but it's true
robots seek validation from women
>>27017434
fuck off shill nobody gives a fuck about your opinions, also kill yourself.
>>27017557
The truth hurts, doesn't it mate
Atheism+ is a movement coopted by feminism. No wonder theyd attack you.
>>27017579
>>27017619
You faggots need to man up snd realize that those fucking cunts you "seek validation from" dont DESERVE YOU. Stop acting like effeminate cuckolds and start going YOUR OWN WAY to be HAPPY.
We are on /r9k/s side here
because being mgtow as a fucking cult like collective group is fucking gay
just fucking smash and dash sluts and do your own fucking thing
it doesn't have to be a movement
or a society
you don't have to be mgtow
just fucking put yourself first and smash sluts when you want
>>27017434
>Putting this much time and effort into a video just to bash people
Kek, what a fucking faggot. Didn't even watch most of it, but holy shit this guy needs to get a life.
>>27017434
At least he knows he's a white knight, just watch his intro
>someone in the comments saying Sh0e>Lauren Southern
how is it even possible to have such shit taste? Shoe is cute and all but Laurens Canadian accent is so fucking adorable. Everytime she says something like 'out' as 'oot' its so cute. Also she actually goes out and confronts a lot of people wheras shoe just posts videos
Mgtow is a legitimate thing BuT then again this is more annoying than vegans. what we need to do it's just understand as time goes on, more of us will understand and th en the system falls apart and then we clean up.
the guy in the video is legitimate in his concern because the guy was looking up was kinda embarrassing and only validate the opinion Society has of the movement.
still eat rose that person in particular
MGTOW is the same as feminism. Some of the people that subscribe to the ideology might have noble intentions but the vast majority are complete cunts who only use it for their own benefit and don't actually care for the state of the planet or the future of humanity.
>>27017434
I've given up on women and dating but i refuse to be associated with any retarded movement.
I thought mgtow had to mean "GOING YOUR OWN WAY" and not the way of some fucks on the internet.. Fuck that shit.
>>27017656
Too bad mgtow is worse than frminism
>>27017656
Males are instinctively hardwired to seek female approval and dedicate their whole lives to m'lady. They don't even realize it. You are talking to a brick wall.
>>27017715
lauren is an ugly kike
Jesus i didn't know such shit taste was possible.
>>27017775
>feminisim
>better than MGTOW
Stop posting pls
>>27017715
Sh0e's New England accent is pretty adorable too. At least coming from the south and speaking with a standard American accent.
>>27017800
fuck you man
lauren a qt
i didn't know she was jewish though
jews produce some quality females other aspects aside
>what I want from MGTOW
>intelligent discussion about single life and hobbies
>what MGTOW actually is
>lol WOMEN ARE BITCHES AND WHORES XDDDD LE REDPILL FAEC
>>27017434
i used to think i was MGTOW because im hated fucking roasties, diddent know this was what i was associating with
This video is lame, as are any other 'skeptic' 'atheist' or 'subculture infighting' videos on Youtube
MGTOW does indeed have a lot of men who are angry and resentful, and bitter towards women. With some justification. This video is just cherry picking the worst of them, though, and making MGTOW as a whole look bad.
Personally I think a better term to use rather than MGTOW would be "men's consciousness movement", which would encompass other sub-groups like MRA content producers, etc. It's about becoming aware of how women would exploit and hurt us, learning the ways in which men are targetted for discrimination, and learning to life happily and sufficiently on your own.
>>27017434
This is obviously a bait thread but anyway
MGTOW are on par in terms on patheticness with the lonely virgins who orbit any female who gives them attention
I think they tend to be the same people but just at different stages in life.
The average MGTOWer is a narcissist who has too much self worth. They're misogynistic and feel like disregarding women is going to hurt them. It's all talk, they go online and talk about how they're going to become badass PUA, bitch fuckers who don't get attached to women or do anything for them. These people have no concept of "going their own way", they've just latched on to some new silly group to follow and they don't usually last long.
>us undesirable guys are leaving now
>were going to do what we want and get attractive and awesome and not give you anything!
>did you hear that girls? We're leaving!
>You're going to miss us!
>I know it hurts girls but we're leaving now!
>hello? Did you hear me?
>fucking whores
As always, joining a movement/group of people who call themselves "free thinkers" never ends well. If you really re going to disregard women, do what you want and become a free thinker you don't need to join a group to label yourself as one
>>27017715
Shoe basically doesn't even do videos anymore. I don't remember the last time she posted one. All she does is gobble Skeptic's cock.
Basically, Lauren has pet hedgehogs. TWO OF THEM. They're the cutest little things ever.
Shoe does not have hedgehogs, therefore she is inferior.
>>27017803
>mgtow
>worthy of any respect
Commit suduku plz
MGTOW's are as blue pilled as it gets. They live in a delusional state of mind, a reality in which them disregarding women will somehow hurt them. Even though anyone who is actually redpill can see that even a below average woman nowadays literally has 99 orbiters at any given time that would do anything for her MGTOW's still somehow believe that they can win. It's either them being retarded or some kind of coping mechanism but until they accept reality they will never better society in anyway.
>tfw qt Sh0eonHead is with that pseudo-intellectual Armoured Skeptic and won't never know you exist
Why even go on?
>>27018086
Id fuck shoe no homo
>>27018169
What? MGTOW is literally disregarding women: the ideology.
It's strange how even the lowest of the failed normies will attack a MGTOW. It's like the wageslave/NEET dichotomy, but in the sexual marketplace. The pussyslaves can't understand that some people are okay with not having sex. They can't understand why the MGTOW is happy, and they hate him for it.
>>27018504
You can be OK with not having sex with out being a mgtow cuck
>>27017434
Thats the guy fucking shoe0nhead gamergater blah blah blah
i never watch vloggers, and i just watched about 10 seconds of that in the middle
i dont get it, does anyone over 30 watch this shit?
every vlog ever im like wtf who cares some idiot kid in their bedroom just waffling away
>yeh im a oldfag
>>27019152
oh forgot to mention MGTOW are just another victim identity group. fuck off to tumblr
>hating mgtow
The fuck is this shit? It's a bunch of guys who claim they don't want to have relationships with women. How is that in any way hurting anyone? Except maybe bitches who want to exploit said guys for resources and attention and whatnot.
>>27019169
>just another victim identity group
This.
It's just the other side of the metaphorical coin of sheer fucking lunacy to feminism.
They somehow manage to be even more retarded.
I suppose that's just another thing to put on the long list of things that men are better at than women, though.
>>27017876
This confused me too
I always thought MGTOW was all about returning your lifes focus to yourself to make yourself better
But now its got the MRA le redpill association, I assumed it was just a meme or some shitposter but its what most of those pathetic cucks are practicing
They think they can make women like them by completely ignoring them which is fucking stupid
I'll just stick to stoicism, I've long since given up outward emotional expression
>sorey
STOPPED WATCHING THERE
THE ETERNAL CANADIAN STRIKES AGAIN
OPINION: DISCARDED
>>27019315
That isn't true, though.
Who are the biggest MGTOW content producers on Youtube?
barbar, spetsnaz, stardust, etc.
These are primarily focused on developing a single life and having meaningful control over it. Of course women are THE MAIN THEME and a constantly recurring thing in most videos, because the whole movement is about resisting gynocentrism, which is absolutely unavoidable. Literally every male is living in a culture steeped in misandry and gender-priveleging, most of us work at jobs where women get free jobs and easy advancement. Women are 50% of the culture, so of course there's a lot of mention of women.
barbar and spestnaz in particular are focused on individual development. There are lots of minor MGTOW who focus on various aspects of resisting gynocentrism in different ways, only a small handful of MGTOW video producers are the type of bitter guys who want to believe women will regret rejecting them.
You are playing into the typical gynocentric thinking of dismissing, ridiculing, distancing yourself from "those loser males" who have feelings, who are capable of being hurt and thus feeling bitter, or wanting things out of women. MGTOW is just a label for content online based around living alone.
>>27019224
This senpai i agree
>>27019434
This whole "gynocentrism" thing is ridiculous. Women might be 50% of the culture, but that doesn't make them very hard to avoid.
>Literally every male is living in a culture steeped in misandry and gender-priveleging
Yes, being a man, especially a single man, is so hard in most Western countries. I'm going to play Bloodborne, jack off to some porn, fix myself a good lunch, and then cry about how women are oppressing me. I definitely ought to listen to these guys, yes sir.
>most of us work at jobs where women get free jobs and easy advancement.
Or you could find a job where you don't have to deal with women. I actually don't interact with them much aside from the occasional clerk. If you're freelancing you set your own hours and don't have to worry about coworkers, or you can find a job in a male dominated field; I love my male coworkers and we have a lot of fun on and off the job without worrying about "cunts" or "gynocentrism" or whatever. Seems to me MGTOW's more interested in complaining about problems than solving them, which is, surprise surprise, feminine.
>>27019929
>This whole "gynocentrism" thing is ridiculous. Women might be 50% of the culture, but that doesn't make them very hard to avoid.
You're seriously going to say it's possible to just block out awareness of the existence of 50% of the population entirely? To forget all of one's previous experiences with them? You're an idiot.
>Yes, being a man, especially a single man, is so hard in most Western countries
Life might not be materially hard for the average male in the west (actually, neither is it that hard materially outside of the west). But a quality that has been seen as masculine and associated with mahood since the start of time is a sense of fairness and equity, something that's outraged by privileging women...and beyond this men have biological drives and emotional needs to be with women - the culture being so toxic depravies them of these things. These are all genuine issues for men and men's inner emotional life that MGTOW attempts to address.
>Or you could find a job where you don't have to deal with women
Not everyone is you. Many men work with women. Many men have issues with depression, lack of job opportunities, failed relationships, criminal records, etc.
Literally everything in your post is just "it's not an issue, bro! Harden up!", which is exactly what women say. MGTOW is not interested in 'complaining', it's solving problems. Your approach of denialist faux tough-guy is feminine.
>>27017752
>Implying MGTOW wasn't for complete self benefit in the first place
Feminism has been hijacked for some's personal benefits, it isn't the original purpose of feminism
Mgtow is all about oneself first, the others later and women last
>>27020062
>it's possible to just block out awareness of the existence of 50% of the population entirely? To forget all of one's previous experiences with them?
It's certainly possible not to be a pathetic whiner about them. I'm an atheist but Christians/religious people make up somewhere north of 70% of the population. Yet, somehow, I don't feel the need to call myself "euphoric" and post on the Richard Dawkins forum about how religion ruins everything. I just choose to sleep in on Sundays. It's not that much harder to do the same for 50% of the population.
>But a quality that has been seen as masculine and associated with mahood since the start of time
Another classically manly quality is stoicism, accepting the various slings, arrows, and general "unfairness" of fate without complaining about them. "Harden up" is what men, not women, have told each other since the dawn of time.
>Many men work with women. Many men have issues with depression, lack of job opportunities, failed relationships, criminal records, etc.
Maybe so, and MGTOW doesn't really help with any of these issues. There are few if any MGTOW who offer good employment or legal advice, and of those who do, one can find better help in finding jobs or escaping a criminal past than any of the guys mentioned in the OP. MGTOW simply isn't a particularly positive movement.
>>27020498
>It's certainly possible not to be a pathetic whiner about them.
Once again, you're mischaracterising MGTOW as a whole. The primary content producers, and most producers of MGTOW content don't whine about anything, they aren't pathetic. They produce MGTOW content because they found being red-pilled valuable to them, and they want to extend the favour to younger blue-pill males. It's that simple.
>Another classically manly...without complaining about them
MGTOW is not complaining about anything, in fact the opposite. It's about empowering men with information which ALLOWS them to see things as they are and walk away from situations that would harm them. You're falsely characterising this as 'complaining'.
>There are few if any MGTOW who offer good employment or legal advice...
They're not providing simply employment or legal advice in that sense because that's not their job - they're providing men with INFORMATION, and EMOTIONAL and PSYCHOLOGICAL SUPPORT, as well as very basic advice on functional things, like how to respond to a wife who may be about to go nuclear, and how to protect yourself from being slapped with a domestic violence intervention order, etc.
>MGTOW simply isn't a particularly positive movement.
Everything you've posted is a psychologism. You project, mischaracterise, attribute psychological motives and then attack. You're preocuppied with "strength" and attributing weakness\patheticness to MGTOW because you're not much of a man yourself and you feel a need to distance yourself to avoid being seen as needy yourself. MGTOW aren't concerned with being confined into the disposable emotionless, unassertive "hide from women" male that you think we should be.
I'm leaving the conversation beacause at this stage I'm just repeating myself.
>>27020697
> The primary content producers, and most producers of MGTOW content don't whine about anything, they aren't pathetic. They produce MGTOW content because they found being red-pilled valuable to them, and they want to extend the favour to younger blue-pill males.
The best Jehovah's Witnesses, and most missionaries, don't whine about sin, they aren't preachy. They try to convert others because they found religion valuable to them, and want to extend the favor to the unsaved masses. It's that simple.
You can, of course, replace "Jehovah's Witnesses" with any other annoying group of proselytizers, including the annoying atheists I mentioned above. MGTOW seems kinda culty from where I stand.
>MGTOW is not complaining about anything, in fact the opposite. It's about empowering men with information which ALLOWS them to see things as they are and walk away from situations that would harm them.
Yes, and radical feminism empowers women with information ALLOWING them to see how evil men are and walk away from situations that would harm them. It's a false characterization to claim "men are the root of all your problems! Patriarchy is everywhere!" is "complaining." In b4 those stupid MGTOW images of how women are parasites, etc. show up.
>hey're providing men with INFORMATION, and EMOTIONAL and PSYCHOLOGICAL SUPPORT
There are many people who need "emotional support groups," but most of those people don't have a penis. And you're better off talking to a lawyer rather than watching some random youtuber if you want to avoid a DV charge.
>You're preocuppied with "strength" and attributing weakness\patheticness to MGTOW because you're not much of a man
And there we see it--MGTOW claiming they're real men while everyone else is gynocentric or a 'pussy beggar' or whatever. Shaming and a futile appeal to masculinity when you guys don't have much of it yourself, however many self-serving redefinitions of it you want to twist yourself around. You sure showed me.
>MGTOW
This is such a dumb movement, they just keep shouting that they want to be alone. If you wanted to be alone, fuck off in a ditch somewhere
