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whats more pathetic? A man who loses his virginity to a escort
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whats more pathetic? A man who loses his virginity to a escort or a virgin?i think a virgin is less pathetic because at least he has some dignity and self respect left.
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>>26972984
I don't know. I am a kissless virgin at 27 and I really don't give a fuck anymore. Lost all desire to have sex.
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>>26972984
A virgin always loses. Get over it and fuck a woman.
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>>26973029
People will think you're weird if you're a virgin but they will think you're a loser if you pay for sex. I'd rather be weird than a loser.
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Normies of course view exchanging money for sex pathetic, but when you pay for dates and have to expend countless hours placating and working your way into a woman's pants this is acceptable. Hiring a prositutite is like finding a cheat code in a video game.
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i really don't know

but really, prostitution goes back thousands of years, i'm sure plenty of guys lost their virginity to them, may have even been seen as completely normal behavior
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>>26973046
>they will think you're a loser if you pay for sex
no they won't. the only reason why prostitution is looked down upon is because of feminism (hurr, you raped a poor woman who was desperate for money). visiting brothels is a very normie thing.
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>>26972984
Clinging to the illusion of dignity and self respect is more pathetic.

We are valueless worms toiling for women & the rich. We exist to have our money and vitality extracted with forced labor and then we die screaming.
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>>26973186
prostitution is looked down upon because it's pretty easy to be a tax cheat when you deal in cash
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>>26973186
It's considered pathetic because even retarded uggo red necks can get sex for free. It makes people question your value knowing even gross people can get sex but you had to pay for it.
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>>26972984
At least the guy who paid for it actually fucked a woman and knows what it feels like. He has common ground with most other men.

The virgin never experienced it.
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>>26973254
Even if you were right, it's not like the guy who paid for sex has to tell anyone. He can just say he had a few one night stands and will be able to prove that he knows what he's doing in the bedroom.

A virgin can try to lie, but it will be proven that he lied when he is all confused in bed.
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>>26973328
But the thing is if you've had sex with escorts, you still won't know what you're doing in the bed room.
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>>26973254
Because drunk retarded "redneck uggo's" fuck other drunk retarded "redneck uggo's." Literally anyone could go out and find some desperate ugly single mother and fuck her brains out. But why bother, why not, if you have the money, pay for some hot slut.
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>>26973351
how does that make any sense
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>>26973254
>It's considered pathetic because even retarded uggo red necks can get sex for free

but virgins havent, what does that mean?
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>>26973351
>If you have had sex, you won't know how to have sex.

That's pretty much what you just said. Think about that.
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>>26973371
Escorts won't tell you what you're doing wrong because it's their job to please you, it isn't about their pleasure. A girl who you're fucking for free is going to tell you what she likes etc and you will learn what women like. Having sex with an escort and claiming it will make you better at sex, is like having sex with a real doll and claiming it made you better at sex. So, when you do finally fuck a girl for free you won't really know shit about getting her off.
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>>26973397
I think he meant having sex with an escort isn't the same somehow. It's fucking retarded. Sex is sex.
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>>26973421
you know that you're paying for their time and you can just ask the prostitute if you're doing anything wrong, right?

every girl youll be with is going to like something different to get her off anyway
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Here's a tip.

Fuck an escort or not.

But NEVER let anyone know you're a virgin.

If anyone that wouldn't otherwise know asks, you tell them you're not.
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>>26973421
Um, a lot of clients of escorts are inexperienced, so the escorts tend to show them what to do. Now different girls have different preferences, but you'll come out knowing at least the basics.

A virgin who has never even seen a naked woman in real life won't even know the first step. "I p-put it in where, again?"
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>>26973450
She's not going to tel you what you're doing wrong. She's like a porn star, she's going to sit there and act like you're a sex God so you can keep giving her money.
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The correct answer is a guy who lets this stuff define him
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>>26973397
Check out casual encounters on back page or craigslist, you'll find some desperate ugly used up slut you can stick your dick in without paying. But you're more likely to catch a vd or get beat up by their redneck husband
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>>26972984
>a virgin is less pathetic
ora maybe someone who can't stop dreaming about something he'll never get
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>>26973472
you're assuming that every non prostitute girl you will ever be with is going to be completely up front about what she wants and tell you everything
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>>26973498
Most of them will be if they love you enough and that's why you need to have sex with more than one girl for free.
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>>26973524
that's going to take weeks/months to get to that point. that isn't some overnight thing...

not all whores are going to treat you like some chad sex god
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>>26973553
Most of them will because who wants to pay someone who doesn't seem to be enjoying it?
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>>26973077

And like a cheat code it means you don't get the achievement.

The only one you're cheating is yourself.
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>>26973563
did you just go full dj khaled?
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>>26973029
say that to many Great Minds that were virgins. also what if I dont want to have sex.
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>>26973562
If you just tell them you are inexperienced and want some tips, they'll be honest with you.

The only pretend you're a sex God if that's what they think you want.
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>>26973563
>being able to experience your wildest fantasies with zero worries about the fact she'll think any less of you
>not being tied up to this woman and having to do things you don't like just to get into her pants
>cheating yourself

Ok.
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>>26973600
How many guys actually ask for tips though?almost none. They but and leave.
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I lost my virginity to an escort. And I honestly I regret it because it felt so wrong and I felt like shit afterward
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>>26973562
you have a warped sense of prostitutes dude

you're paying for their time, that's it. what you do with that time is up to you two. if you want her to be an enthusiastic 1000 orgasms per minute, they'll do it. if you want her to teach you shit, they'll be fine with it
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>>26973635
You should have kept your self respect.
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>>26973610

It's worse, you're so pathetic she thinks you're lower than a cockroach, to her you're even more pathetic than she is having to sell sex to survive. To her it must be a relief that there's someone out there even worse than a piece of dog shit.
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>>26973835
You sound really mad.

Were you denied service by an escort or something?
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>>26973563
The thing is, I couldn't give a fuck what she thinks because she literally does this for a living. We're both less than cockroaches.
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>>26973868

No, i just pity the fact that you have to pay for affection.

In your delusional mind you think everything you pay for in a relationship is supposed to be for sex. No, you pay for things because that's how you go out to experience things and create memories with someone you love you fucking loser.
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>>26973563
Women have excessively and unrealistically high standards.

How are we missing the "achievement" if the woman wouldn't give any of us a chance unless we're rich 9/10 Chads?
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>>26973945
You're either
a) a beta provider
b) roastie whore

Either way, get the fuck out.
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>>26973945
I think you think you're only talking to one person. I never said anything about the costs of a relationship.

That said, you're implying a relationship is viable for all of us. Might be news to you, Chad, but not all of us have girls wanting to be our gfs. Some of us the only options are escorts or masturbating alone in a room.
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>>26973945
in what world are you living in where everyone has the ability to be in a loving relationship?

what the fuck?
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>>26972984
Literally name one thing bad about virginity. Virginity is a virtue. Commodifying intimacy is erosive to the the human character and lowers human society as a whole.
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I don't care anymore. Let the normies think what they want. I'm a loser virgin creepy try-hard entitled pessimistic whining freak, and it's all my fault because I'm a horrible person. Fuck it.
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>>26973639
>you're paying for their time, that's it. what you do with that time is up to you two.
How much would I have to pay one for a 6-months hiking >>>/out/ trip together?
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>>26974101
> I'm a loser virgin creepy try-hard entitled pessimistic whining freak, and it's all my fault because I'm a horrible person. Fuck it.

AT LEAST YOU ADMITTED IT BRO
now kill yourself
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>>26974156
For a whore costing $100 an hour, that would come out to be a between $420k and $460k, depending on which months you went.
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>>26973472
You can spot the one who've never been with an escort. Btw: who cares, what others think about you? If you want to keep your virginity then keep it.
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>>26972984
>A man who loses his virginity to a escort
>or a virgin?
I know something more pathetic than both: having sex once and then never.

This way you;re niether and you have benefits neither of being virgin nor of having sex. You go to hell without having sex.
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>>26974194
>>26974214
>between $420k and $460k
Sleeping under a tent for the price of orbital flight?
This is why prostitution makes no sense to me.
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>>26973563
To continue with your retarded as fuck analogy, in a video game everyone has to respect the same rules. In the real world some people are on nightmare mode, rolled 0 in all skills and -10 in charisma for some reason, and have no initial items and 0 gold. Then there's Chad, who rolled 10 in all skills, permanent bonus of +50 in charisma, born with 80000 gold in his inventory in most cases. Then we have Stacey, who rolled whatever it doesn't matter because she plays on easy mode with cheat modes enabled.

In this context, your new age just world fallacious bullshit is worthless and your opinion is biased, hypocritical and invalid as fuck.

I wonder what kind of achievement I could unlock by forcefully inserting my virgin cock in your stupid normie ass.
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>>26973015
at what age do you just stop giving a fuck and lose all sexual desires completely?
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>>26975074
Not that anon, but I'm 27 too and I actually started giving a fuck at 25, didn't care at all before.
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