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so ive decided im going to start smoking. going to buy some cigarettes
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so ive decided im going to start smoking. going to buy some cigarettes tomorrow. robots that smoke recommend me a brand pls
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>>26963651
American Spirit. They are the easiest to quit if you choose to do so.
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>>26963671
which color do you recommend and also how long does it take to get addicted
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>>26963651
>this stupid.
they are almost almost all the same btw, camel crush is kind of fun though.
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This is like the worst idea possible

If you start smoking because you hang out around people who smoke then that's one thing. But just making this decision for its own sake is absurd. Hell, smoke weed instead, it's better than tobacco in almost every way
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>>26963693
im autistic so i cant get weed
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They're all exactly the same, the only choice you have to make is whether or not it has menthol. All that stupid brand bickering is just a marketing stunt for the tobacco companies.
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it's seriously NOT fucking worth it.
smoked for 5 years and I February 3rd was my 1st year of not smoking.

I would be lying if I said I didn't miss it but it's really not worth the money and the damage it does to you.

>>26963671
seconding this if you decide to be an idiot OP. they helped me quit. at the very least buy some nice tobacco and roll your own.
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>>26963711
should i get it with menthol or not. (i dont know the difference)
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>>26963651
>addiction is real

tried very hard to smoke, never felt any urges, it was always more hassle than it was worth
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>>26963705
I manage to get weed fine.
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>>26963740
i have literally zero friends or connections. the only time i got weed was once in high school when some guy literally came up to me and asked me if i wanted to buy some.
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Tbqh addiction to cigarettes only happens for some people. I've been smoking irregularly for 2 years and generally can go without if necessary. Now its just a force of habit and I only smoke with other people. In all honesty I can't imagine why you'd want to start, it's pretty hard on your wallet after a while
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What the hell do you even want to start smoking for?
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>>26963689
I like the yellow one
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>>26963776
im a richfag that only has to pay for gas
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>>26963763
ah, well I guess I could say how that'd be a bit hard. I've been fortunate I guess.
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>>26963782
something to do and come across a little less beta
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Please list out a list of the positives and negatives of doing this

Literally the most retarded thing to do

Ciggs won't ever make you feel better than you feel right now at this very moment. All they will do is force you to pay money to feel the same exact feeling you feel right now. But at the cost of dollars, cancer, fucked up teeth, smelling like shit, faster aging, etc
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>>26963651
Lucky Strikes reds. Can't get them here in Canada unless I order :(
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>>26963730
Only if you're black, otherwise don't ever smoke menthols.
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>>26963812

Hey faggot

Why not just take steroids then?

You obviously don't care about your health, might as well get some alpha years out of it.

Smoking just makes you beta btw. Like, if you were in class and people viewed you as a beta, they're not going to see you outside smoking a cigg then think "oh wow i was wrong about that kid"
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Is it worth picking up smoking? I've had an extremely stressful past and am plagued by anxiety/paranoia etc from every bad thing thats happened to me.

Is smoking still as relaxing when you start as it is long into the addiction?
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>>26963845
>just do steroids bro xD
>just be urself bro

kill yourself "bro"
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>>26963845
same problem with weed. cant get them
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>>26963791
I don't know, I would not recommend this. Why not booze up instead or use that cash for a collecting hobby or something? I mean you can't ignore the serious negative health issues. I'm planning on stopping completely in a year or so.
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>smoking cigs
>not just enjoying a nice cigar several times a month

Literally retarded.
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>>26963845
do they sell steroids at every liquor store and gas station?

>be bored
>want something menial to do
>BRO WHY DONT YOU JUST CHANGE YOUR LIFESTYLE BRO FUCKING GENIUS PLAN IF YOU DONT YOURE A PUSSY
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>>26963884
im 20 so no alcohol
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Marlboro NXT, taste like mentos
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>>26963884
>kill your liver and kidneys instead of lungs
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>>26963863

You know what

There's no use trying to convince you retards

Just literally start smoking and speed up the process of your death faster

The world will be better for it

Anyone over the age of 16 who would even considering starting smoking is beyond retarded.

>>26963904
>want something menial to do

You have fucking internet access and can't entertain yourself?

You think ciggs are better?

Are you literally retarded?
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>>26963651
I wouldn't recommend menthol. But that's just me. I would pick up a pack of Camel Filters. Those were my favorite. But if you want to decide between menthols and non menthols try a pack of camel filters and some camel crushes and decide what you like best. However if you are looking for cheap smokes grab a pack of pall mall reds and pall mall menthols and decide. Pall malls aren't the nicest but they get the job done. They just don't have a cool mascot like Joe Camel lol
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>>26963818
This this this

I tried typing up a post to this effect but I'm too drunk

Fuck, start drinking if you have to, it might possibly have a better effect than cigs
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>>26963651
Do it OP, it takes the edge off and makes you look cool.
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>>26963920
>getting this upset no one wants his input
you must be a fucking pain to know irl
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>>26963651

fuck that.

>>26963671

this is troll. AS are the harshest cigarettes out there.
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>>26963920
>living to the ripe age of anything over 65 is desirable when you have 0 friends

you clearly do not belong here
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Drinking is without a doubt the better choice

Both are bad for you, but cigs are even worse. Cigs don't make you feel better, or more social, or happier.

Alcohol makes you social. Alcohol has been getting men laid for centuries. Alcohol has been the center of social events for centuries.
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>>26963651
I only smoke to take smoke breaks at work. Best 15 minutes of my wageslave day.
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Don't be a faggot anon have some balls like your great grandpappy did and smoke these. None of those american spirit smoking hipsters killed Nazis and worked an honest days work, they just sit on there ass and get ironic ratios with their parents trustfund. Smoke Lucky's kid there good for ya
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American Spirit Menthol Light (lime green) for me. They are expensive but don't taste like complete trash compared to every other brand. The smell of Marlboro makes me sick to my stomach.
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OP here. Is how easily i get addicted, can stop and am affected by smoking genetic?

My dad smoked in his teens and early 20s and then stopped. My dads dad was an alcoholic smoker that died of throat cancer in his 60s. My moms dad stopped smoking cold turkey in his 30s. My uncle also is a smoker that cant stop however he hasnt aged or anything from smoking. He was a model and is like 57 but looks like he is 40 despite smoking his whole life.
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>>26963914
Drinking in moderation has up to a certain extent positive effects on your overall health. Consider the studies done on red wine.
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>>26963974
Holy shit man, even if you have friends it's shit. Have you seen 90% of old people?

>can barely move, let alone walk
<are doped up on so many medications they no longer have a sense of reality
>just a constant haze In-between looking back and missing/regretting the past

If I somehow live past my 60's, I'm going to fling myself off a cliff come my 70th birthday.
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>>26963979
Ya but out smoking buts is a great way to meat people not loud like inside and you won't meet pretentious douchebags that care about their health... fags...
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>>26963920
How is someone considering picking up smoking retarded?

I have nothing to lose and my life is nothing but stress and anxiety, if cigarettes would give me moments of relaxation it would be a god send.

Doesn't seem retarded at all to at least consider it...
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>>26964034
if you want to smoke in public, that's a bad idea. whatever chemical effects it has that might relax you is nothing compared to the anxiety increase
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>>26963651
Currently getting over my own habit.

You're a fucking retard OP.
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>>26964050
Im not sure what you mean, what difference would smoking in public have compared to private?
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>>26964034
>my life is nothing but stress and anxiety

Smoking will increase this

Smoking doesn't relax you faggot.

I already told you, how do you feel right now?

That's all smoking will do.

But only you will NEED it to feel like you do right now.

Whenever you're not smoking, you'll feel even worse than you do right now

You're obviously committed to this, so go for it, dumbass. Enjoy making your life worse with 0 benefit health, mood, financial or sexual attractive benefit kek
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Also
L&Ms are to MarbReds
as Keystone is to Coors
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>>26964075
just uhh

just try it
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>>26964078
>Smoking doesn't relax you faggot

But thats exactly what it does, the buzz you get is incredible, i've smoked a handful of times.

I assume raising tolerance will nullify these effects?
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smoke e-cigs, harmless alternative and they taste delicious
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>not buying a motorcycle
>not starting to smoke cigs
>staying a beta
>not adopting the live fast die young motto and fucking sluts
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Smoking is the dumbest, shittiest drug out there. If you wanna look cool might as well just do cocaine, its easier to find than weed for some reason.
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Great idea dude

Smoking ciggs feels amazing!!!

It's not THAT much money people in here are so stupid

Yeah its "bad for your health", fuck off who wants to live forever?

Do it!! buy buy buy!! BUY CIGARETTES.
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Why are you gonna start smoking? You should just vape because thats not as bad as cigs
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>>26964192
where do i get ecigs
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just vape dude your already autistic might as well get candy flovered shit
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>>26964180
do you ever look at your own life and the dumb shit you buy and think this? or only when the government sponsors programs that tell you what to think as a child?
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>>26964123
Yes, later you will need a smoke or else you feel extremely uneasy. And climbing up the stairs will leave you breathless. And the body odor from a smoker is the most repulsive thing ever, even more than a unwashed pussy, and in par with smegma. And your breath will become shit, as well. And your teeth become unavoidably yellow.

Smoking became uncool after 9/11
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>>26964226
what if you already smell and have yellow teeth
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>>26963651
>Smoke multiple times
>Get bored
>Drink multiple times
>Have urges but then remember its shit taste
Never again.
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>>26963691
They haven't sold Camel Crush for a year.

>Camel Turkish Royals for flavor
>Camel blue or Marlboro Special Blends for a light cig
>American Spirits for burn time / decent flavor
>Parliament Royal Blues or Marlboro Reds for all around
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Which cigs are the hardest to get addicted to?
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>>26964298
Anything labeled natural, i.e Spirits.

Though that label natural recently was disproved.
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The best thing about smoking is that you always have and excuse to leave the area and go outside. It's also a really good way to get to know people that you would otherwise have nothing in common with.
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>>26964276
>They haven't sold Camel Crush for a year.

What? I have a pack in my coat pocket.
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>>26963705
use the darknet faggot
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>>26963711
actually, there is a difference in taste for a lot of brands. none of
them are better or worse, just different. for example, pick a pack
of Marlboro reds and a pack of camel reds classics. the marlboro
has a smoother, lighter taste, as well as pulls easier, while the
camel is earthier and harder to pull.
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>>26963739
addiction, beyond a mental habit, takes years, if not decades of heavy smoking to develop.
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>>26965103
I've only been smoking for like 6 months and I need to smoke or else I lose my mind. I don't even really feel anything from it and it's costing me way too much money. Addiction is where the negatives of the drug outweigh the positives and you still can't quit it. Smoking is just about all negatives for me and I still keep doing it.

At least the other drugs I do still consistently give me a good high even after months and months of use. And they're easier to quit too. I could quit my opiate habit after a year of near constant use. Smoking just sucks. Maybe some other people get something out of it, but I don't. I hate how one of my reasons for continuing smoking is that "it fits my image". Like I gotta keep smoking because I'm an edgy radical living on the edge of society. Just stupid bullshit.
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OP you will regret this the rest of your life.
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>>26965763

it's really not that serious, when did this board get full of cucks.

OP everything is fine in moderation. Limit yourself to a few a day. If you find you're craving more, stop, then restart with less.


You can be sure that the folks who are bitching ITT probably eat fast food, smoke weed, or drink alcohol.


Nat Shermans are a decent smoke
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>>26965103
seriously? why cant you just do some opiate shit whenever you smoke eventually switch to just the opiate shit
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>>26963651
>>26963930
>tfw Aussie
>tfw can't buy Camel anywhere
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>>26963651
Benson & Hedges Classic.

No contest. Or if you're a pussy go for the smooth's.
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>>26966876
>What are illegal Chinese non-plain package shady retailers
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I suggest you take LSD or magic mushrooms first, and then decide if you want to start smoking.
Possibly try your first cigarette on LSD. You will hate it.
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>only weed smoker
>figure with all the lung damage i might as well try cigarettes
>buy a pack and start smoking
>it's fucking nothing

really? do i already have to be addicted to nicotine for it to be 'relaxing'? the smoke was a bit harsher than weed and a real big puff made me a bit light headed but that's it? people who get addicted to this must be sub-human

i'll stick to weed
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>>26965738
I've smoked about 15 years now.
Quitting crystal meth and regular amphetamines was easier.
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>>26964023
Don't you want to see how far technology goes, you retarded fuck ?
>just a constant haze In-between looking back and missing/regretting the past
Their fault for being like that, you can act different, I'd be that old fuck that smokes genetically modified weed and plays the newest porn VR game or whatever the fuck they'll have.
You only have one experience here for all you know, don't you want at least to see how far humanity evolves in your lifetime ?
>inb4 SJW's
If SJW's run the planet I'm killing myself and taking some with me.
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menthol camel like every other pleb that starts smoking.

thats literally what gets them hooked
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>>26967074
It's literal shit, smoking is shit tier, everyone that smokes is a shitlord that literally started because he has nothing better to do.
It provides no benefits, it's costly, if ruins your health. It's only slightly satisfying if you are addicted, but it sucks when you can't smoke one. It's hard to give up.
Literally worse thing you can do to yourself.
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>>26964251
>being this wimyn
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>>26967129
i don't even understand the appeal. it seems to me you have to force it awhile until you become addicted to reap any of the benefits...

it could be useful to quit weed though, just for the feeling of smoking something
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Dunno how people get addicted to smoking 2bh. Tried it several times and smoked daily for a period of about a month each time until I eventually just forgot to buy more. No urges whatsoever to smoke. Alcohol is totally different thing for me though, one beer and I'll end up drinking for next several days and find it really hard to stay sober for multiple days in a row.
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>>26964022
The benefits are minuscule and can be obtained without drinking alcohol.
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>>26967155
This, it's really hard to get addicted, anyone that says they got addicted from smoking a few packs are delusional or have no self control.

>>26964034
But it doesn't relax you, you retarded shit. It makes you more anxious at start and after you become used to it you are more anxious when you don't smoke cause you're addicted.
This board really is full of retards, have fun becoming like >>26965738
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>>26963651
where are you based? If UK then players red, USA then go for something like Marlboro Gold >might be called lights in the US
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>>26967184
Same can be said about smoking regularly.
The benefits of smoking can literally be obtained by doing nothing since it provides no benefits, it only gets you back to normal when you smoke and in a shitty state when you don't.
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>>26963651
Blue Dream would be a good place to start. I'd also recommend Durban Poison and Afghan Kush to get a good contrast between sativa and indica.
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>>26967051
where? especially in sydney area
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>>26967086
It's different from other drugs because it becomes like a routine. Your day feels all wrong if you don't have a smoke. Just the action of doing it becomes like associated in your brain with the passage of the day. Smoke breaks become like a release of the pressure of life.

It's a very unfulfilling habit, you're better off just taking actual drugs to be honest. If I got like a high from it, I'd be cool with doing it. But it just becomes like OCD behavior, where you're doing it so you don't feel bad and not because it makes you feel good. I think pretty much every smoker recognizes that smoking is unfulfilling. There's like this camaraderie amongst smokers because it's like when prisoners-of-war stay loyal to each other since they're in the same shitty situation.

Maybe we get hooked on it because it's a recognition of the futility of it all. Killing your health and money just because you can. It's a little edgy, but smokers are always edgy in some way.
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>>26967146
My theory is that tobacco contains natural MAOIs (Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors) which act as an anti-depressant.
Depressed smokers are subconsciously self medicating their depression and get addicted hardcore.
Nicotine itself is not very addictive.
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>>26967348
>It's different from other drugs because it becomes like a routine.

Yeah, after 15 years of repeating the same action 20 times a day gets deeply ingrained in your behavior. Especially when you start early like me.
I started smoking as a 13 year old child in a country where a pack cost $2. At 16 I was up to a pack a day and at 17 when it dawned on me how stupid it is, the addiction was already strong.

On LSD I am temporarily liberated but it's not permanent and I can't take acid every day. If I ever quit it will be with the help of psychedelics.

The effectiveness of psychedelics for quitting a lifelong smoking habit has been proven scientifically already:

http://time.com/3399433/quit-smoking-psychedelic-drugs-acid-test/

CB Therapy + Mushrooms is very effective.
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Didn't read the thread, but if you smoke anything but Marlboro Reds, or Newports if you prefer menthol, than you're a pussy. Those are the two brands of real man cigarettes.
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don't do it degenerate
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>>26963651
Nicotine kills your willpower like nothing else. And you'll be addicted to it, meaning you'll be a husk of yourself in a year and accomplishing anything will be even harder than now.
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>>26964713
yeah, don't. people realised it's filled with normies everyday so unless you know where to go to, you can assume every single thing there is a scam.

what are you even gonna do when you're scammed. call the police and tell them some anonymous guy scammed you when you tried to buy drugs? good luck
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>>26963894
this, i get a couple of really good cigars at the end of every month and smoke them with a glass of whisky while watching anime
truly the patrician way to smoke
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How retarded it would be if I started smoking just to get smokebreaks at work?
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>>26967983
do it. just smoke gunpowder tea it smells like cigs anyways
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Literally one of the worse decisions you can make. Most women will be discussed by you even more, your clothes will stink, you'll stand out in the cold and obsene heat just to get your fix, and in 20 years you wish need to quit but can't and your doctor's will give you shit for it.
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>>26963651
You're going to get ED, faggot.
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>>26963651
meh, nothing really matter in life anyway, so go for it. parliament, if it exists in america
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>>26963651
Kurupt moon rocks brand.
Strongest weed you can smoke. Normal cigarettes just fucks your body to much. Atleast weed gives you something when you smoke.
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>>26963914
>tfw the most common legal drugs are worse for your health than heroin.
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Lucky Strike

So you can be cool like Mad Men
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>>26963651
Now you can be cancer in two ways
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>>26963651
lucky strikes or dunhills are pretty light
dont recommend marlboro for a starter as they are heavier on the lungs
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I smoke Marlboro, you smoke cock
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be a real man and smoke chesterfields or classic plain, red marlboro.
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aw fufck
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Don't smoke.

Not because it's disgusting or unhealthy, but because it's really expensive.

It's like burning money.
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>>26968840
this, lucky strike is best one
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I smoke since about a year now and started for the same reason as you OP.
Now I feel even shittier then before
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>>26964013
Best Lucky Strike commercial ever desu.
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>>26967941
you could use the escrow function most markets have?
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Cigars, senpai.

But if you go cigarette... Camels
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