What is wrong with us?
We can't blame our looks or height or being beta, because there are countless people who are uglier, shorter and more beta than us who have had gfs.
Any flaw you can name, there is someone who has it worse and has had a gf. Even morbidly obese people get gfs.
So what is our problem?
But that's exactly why they have GF's. They're extremes, and we're bordering within the ugly, average limbo
>>26855865
we weren't lucky
>>26855865
Neuroticism
I assume it's our auras and ideas. Not trying to sound edgy or anything but I notice people usually like people and date people like them. I notice we truly are different then the others on this planet and we know opposites don't attract so that is why we are undesirable. Either that or we're all subconsciously doing things that turn people off. For me I assume it's my stuttering.
My standards are waaay to fucking high.
2D has ruined 3D women for me.
Also I've never even tried to get a gf.
We're pessimists. We don't want to look at the bright side, and we can't. We radiate negativity, which alienates people from us, which in turn alienates us from them, creating a vicious cycle. Sure, most of us would still be beta and weird if we were more positive, but at least then we'd be normal, and probably have a chance at life.
People are made up of thousands of things they like and dislike and that shit changes daily.
If youre lucky enough to find someone who has like... 25% in common with you its a goddamn miracle.
And you will. Now, to find someone to put up with 80% or more? Its a goddamn jesus-lovin stoner parade ass-munchin miracle anyone gets married and has long term relationships. Either get lucky, or like 10,000 things instead of 1000. Ups the odds.
1. I don't meet people
2. I don't like spending money
3. I don't try to show my interest to cute girls because I know they will say 'I already have bf'
4. Ridiculously high standard thanks to the internet
>>26855865
i'm a failed normal scum
i look normal and don't have hideous appearance
but I'm about as lifeless as a corpse really uninteresting shit I'd rather spend time being an giggling like an autistic retard then go to work or put up with the mind games women have
>>26855865
Self sabotage, views of the world that seem weird to others, and general low confidence. Combine that with whatever other deficiencies you might have like ugliness, a boring personality, or mental illness relating to socialization and you've got a recipe for disaster.
This generation was completely fucked over regarding the way we were raised.
Spockian thinking and the self-esteem craze caused our parents, our teachers and the media to raise us with poisonous ideals.
We were taught to hate our own masculinity and look down on people who display masculine traits. We were taught to hate competitiveness and view it as evil. When we failed in school, it was the teachers that got in trouble instead of the students. Everyone got a trophy for participating.
Instead of being taught "you can achieve anything if you work hard", we were taught "you are special just the way you are"
What's the point of improving yourself or achieving anything if you are a special snowflake?
And this generation took that attitude into adulthood.
If someone has a better body that you, it's genetics. If someone is richer than you, it's privilege.
It's part of the feminization of men. And conversely, women are being masculinized.
This generation is fucked. That's why the number of involuntary celibates is rising.
I can't speak for the rest of you, but the first thing that entered my mind seeing the OP's pic was the desire to watch that girl take an enormous shit in exactly that position, maintaining her gentle smile as the rancid-smelling, soft-serve-consistency fecal matter oozes slowly between her clenched thighs and spatters all over the table and the ground. Skirt darkening and dripping with a stream or hissing piss.
That fact is probably indicative of something wrong with me; again, I can't speak for the rest of you.
>allowing succubi to steal your vital life force
it's like you don't even want to change the world anymore, anon
>>26856024
>If someone has a better body that you, it's genetics. If someone is richer than you, it's privilege.
Back to /pol/ with you. Go suck some more corporate cock for me.
>>26855865
I worry all the time.
>>26855865
I wont date african blacks or dot Indians, and thats all there are in my community
The asians, who are the majority, are way too insular
MEME PROBLEMS
>>26856024
>we were taught "you are special just the way you are"
wahhh i'm fox news and mr. rgrs turned our kids gay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29lmR_357rA
why don't you stop insulting yourself with your hand and get a gf
>>26856024
What if you're voluntarily celibate?
Fill this guiss
It is impoerant fir ma work
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1l8mQU7ZL2VqjVQokb5rGFGF_N7fvFIKsXQk1nhV9LWw/viewform
Its the single mother parenting
Literally the root of all evil
Too self-conscious.
gooks smell bad
>>26856139
Child of single mother here
What exactly are the drawbacks on this and why?
wrong place
wrong time
It's due to rejection and social isolation from a young age. We're a different race compared to people who have lived a normal life.
we're boring and don't have our shit together
Lack of action, initiative, and ambition.
>>26855865
I can't speak for the rest of the people here, but here's my take.
Everyone is born into different circumstances. No two lives are the same. Some end up successful and fulfilled, others do not. While parenting and family structure plays a role, it's not the end all be all. There are orphans and foster kids who manage to do well. There are children of single mothers who grow up to be well-adjusted.
In my case. I had two loving parents, an upper middle-class lifestyle, good schools, I was never a popular kid, always nerdy, but never had problems making friends thankfully. There was a brief moment of extreme loneliness early in high school, but I ended up getting a great group of friends I still connect with.
Went to college, made new friends, did all the stuff. Got a shitty job afterwards.
Yet I still feel like I failed. I've had two gfs, both relationships only lasted a few months. First gf was super hot black chick, she broke up with me, we got back together for a bit but she turned out crazy. Better off without her.
Had a second gf, this time after college. Short, chubby half mexican girl. Cute, and incredibly sweet, but I couldn't shake the notion that I could do way better. I'd hooked up with girls way hotter than her. Always felt awkward, after sex I just wanted her to gtfo, hated hanging with her in the morning. Took this as a sign she wasn't the one for me, shouldn't keep leading her on, so I broke up with her.
That was 2 years ago. Had a fling with a girl I went to college with, she was very attractive, white girl, but utterly boring in every way. And kind of a sloot.
She moved away. The women I am truly in love with, I just end up being friend-zoned with them. I can get laid, but never by the women I truly love. I'm not good enough for them. I need to work out but I don't. I need to play an instrument or develop a skill or craft, but instead I just spent my time doing drugs because I hate my job so much.
>>26856750
>>26856750
>>26856750
save up enough money and quit your job
I feel like i'm in the same boat as you are, except i haven't graduated yet, junior in college
as for the women thing?
just keep looking out there man
you're probably succesful
you can find a chick
you're 90% ahead of everyone on this fucking board man
my advice?
Stop projecting what a woman is when 'falling in love with her'
you don't fall in love with someone until later
there are literally 30 better girls than your one itis
treat her like shit, and she'll love you
no joke
keep your options open
pick up a new hobby, live life for yourself
having a bitch around to fuck isn't going to make that much of a difference to what you're doing (work, etc) except add that in there
focus on making your life enjoyable to YOU
>>26856750
Sorry this thread was meant for people who have never had a gf. Thanks for posting though
>>26856750
I was preoccupied with getting laid. Even though it rarely happened. I had the occasional one night stand from a fat chick I'd meet on the internet.
Women were otherwise rarely attracted to me. Or if they were, I didn't notice. Many women I was attracted to, and even hooked up with them a couple times, but I was never good enough for an actual relationship.
Cuckholded or passed over for better lovers or stronger men.
Wondering why I'm such a failure, deep down I know, but the cognitive dissonance was too strong.
I grew up in the 90s. Born in 91.
A lot of people here reminisce on the 90s as a golden age, and compared to today, it was, but we cannot forget it was the beginning of the end.
It was the beginning of the "you're special" generation. Everyone is great, everyone is unique.
I thought it was fine I didn't excel at athletics, I did great in school, I was smart, that was enough for me. I figured eventually when I grew older I'd find an intelligent woman or one who admires me for my intelligence.
I didn't realize just how important physical fitness is. Even now that I do realize it, I have extreme trouble motivating myself to work out. I'm a failure through and through.
It wasn't until I had a bad trip on psychedelics that I thought was turning me gay that I realized what had been going on my whole life, and had propelled me in to leftist politics in college.
I called myself a feminist, I even led anti-racist and feminist dialogue groups. I thought if I could understand feminism I could understand women, and thus I could get laid.
I took women at face value, believing them to be trustworthy and reasonable individuals just with vaginas instead of dicks.
How wrong I was.
And now that everything has changed I no longer desire love or sex or affection.
Previously I actually wanted to be a train-hopping bum because I thought it would be some sort of rad anarchist lifestyle and true freedom.
>>26856858
I mean...when it comes down to it, a 3 or 4 month relationship isn't shit.
I'm at a point in my life where numerous friends are in relationships with women for over 3 or 4 years, or at least have had one or two multiple year long relationships.
I never figured out how to make it work.
>>26856780
I did quit my job. In my other post I mentioned a bad acid trip I thought turned me gay for a bit. I didn't feel desire but felt the universe pushing me that way, scary shit. Luckily I don't feel that way but I no longer feel desire for anything. I used to be a music junkie, travelling across the country with friends to see jam bands and take psychedelic drugs.
Do you know how demoralizing it is to be around women who are all about free love and sex and you still mostly fail? I did fuck a woman at a show earlier this summer, she was 40, kinda ugly but okay. I felt on top of the goddam world at the time.
Then everything went to extreme shit later. It's like there's something going on I just don't quite understand. I'm too nice most of the time, too polite, I don't play it cool enough, I'm not confident.
I always thought if I could just have regular sex I would be able to focus on other things in my life. Sex was always of such prime importance. I fell for that modern cultural meme very hard. Never pieced the need to sublimate sexual desire for something else. Now, due to drugs, I no longer really feel sexual desire. I've only been able to masturbate again this past week after 6 months of being unable to.
If I could return to how I was before this drug trip I would be fine, I would be able to pull myself out of it. But now...I don't know, i was almost schizo for a while there.
I don't even know what I want to do to make my life enjoyable. I used to think that it was going to concerts and partying with my friends, shared experiences and all that. I realize that's a lie, that parties are celebrations but if your life is shit celebrating is dumb.
>>26856858
I'll stop spamming the thread. It's just, I relate to being a robot on so many levels. I have had moments in my life where I was pretty normal. From about 15/16-22 things were alright for me. I screwed up sometimes but I was holding it together by a thread and it worked.
Then that thread snapped. After this trip and my subsequent "red-pilling" if you'll call it that, I see the world for how it is. I fell for the liberal meme hook, line, and sinker.
I was super libertarian in high school, thought it was truth and life. Then I was okay with Obama because I thought, libertarianism is cool, but there's so much inequality you just need gov't to help the little guy out, provide a safety net etc.
After seeing how things really are, and how fucked my life is because I bought into the meme, I realize I'm fucked. I majored in political science because I did well in those classes and was interested. But I spent too much time getting high to go after any internships. My parents coddled me and gave me money throughout college so I never had to work (pretty normal where I went).
I had one job in college, a delivery driver for a sandwich shop. It was okay. But my parents encouraged me to quit. My mother was paranoid I would get kidnapped and killed (lived in a majority black city) even though we had a very small delivery radius for precisely that reason. So in college I never had the money for things I wanted to do. Finally I graduate, get a shitty 13 dollar/hour job, am able to support myself and travel and do all the things I thought I missed out on.
I just wanted a cute hippie girl to go to shows with and have sex with. That's it.
I had hope. I had hope I could turn it all around until this past september when it all came crashing down.
I'm a loser, a beta, a cuck. I lack drive or initiative. Now its all worse than ever.
>>26856894
>born in 91
>grew up in the 90s
you were 9 years old in 2000 you retarded dipshit
>>26855865
>So what is our problem?
mental illness
We don't have normie personalities.
>>26856024
Cap this shit. It's truth.
Unlearn what you've learned.
>>26857122
you know what I fucking mean. I have many memories from the 90s.
Mainly late 90s, but a helluva lot more than fags born in 94 or 95
>>26855865
>we cannot send this rapist to prison because there a rapists who raped more people like him.
you are stupid.
>>26855865
I'm too afraid to do anything
>>26856024
This is basically it.
This is what I meant to convey with my tirade of post about self-loathing.
I bought this hook line and sinker. I still worked hard and stuff. Worse, being fairly intelligent, I was able to excel in school. I figured "oh some people are born a certain way, I was lucky and born smart"
So as I got older I didn't work hard. I worked hard as a kid. In high school I slacked off a lot. Part of me blames pornography. I tried to learn guitar, but instead of practicing really I would prefer to go online and masturbate. I masturbated so much, to the detriment of everything except homework.
>>26856024
Eh, I've always felt this was bullshit, the supposed "cult of self-esteem." It's what boomers tell us they did wrong, which is basically a rephrasing of the idea "we were too good to you and now you're spoiled." Which is wrong. There's plenty of bad shit that has happened, is happening or will happen to us, but not one bit of that was being cared for too much by preceding generations. There's a complicated, intricate web of mistakes that were made in between WWII and now, and the boomers and their vaunted Greatest Generation were at the roots of a lot of those decisions, and at the root of those decisions is a complete disregard for the future and the past.
>>26855865
It's your dog dick ugly personalities.
>>26856024
See even your view on this is pussified. No one makes you a man you become one yourself. You're pissed you weren't given manhood? That's a pretty pussy worldview. U need to be stronger
>>26857821
The truth is the boomers were fine but they just had it really easy, and they thought life would continue to be that easy.
They grew up on stories of their parents going through extreme struggles. Mainly The Great Depression and WWII. Their parents, our grandparents, told them to go out and make something of themselves, get educated, follow their dreams, because due to depression and WWII they had to focus on doing whatever they could to survive.
So the boomers did that. They went to school, got great jobs, and excelled in the economy. Then they had kids, and they thought, man I might be successful on the outside, but I'm really fucked up on the inside, emotionally I am a fucking wreck.
That's why you had divorce rates go up (well, feminism) and prozac became a thing and so forth.
They thought, if only I knew I was okay when I was a kid. If only I knew I was special and worthy of love just for being me.
A lot of this had to do with the social engineering of the 60s and the psychedelic movement. Not that psychedelics were wrong or inherently bad, but a lot of the ideas expounded during the 60s weren't authentic but people thought about those things while high cause that's what LIFE magazine told them being high was about.
The boomers obviously did not intentionally screw us over. I think part of it might be the fragmentation of families. Not just divorce, but separation from older family members. Prior to the subrban explosion of the 50s. Most Americans would usually live with or extremely close to their own parents. It was closer to an extended family. There was sharing of duty, and more cultural exchange. The grandparents and parents passed on culture and structure to the younger generation.
Then they got more separated, and it was just parents raising the kids, maybe visiting grandparents a couple times a month or far less.
They thought it was good to break with the older generation. To raise people differently. But it didn't work
>>26858114
fuck off.
You're not totally wrong but previous generations generally had strong male role models they could look up to. Whether their fathers or grandfathers.
Men show boys how to be men.
It's no surprise that young men without fathers who are raised exclusively by women are more likely to have relationship problems and/or be homosexual.
>>26858208
I don't know what you want? My dad was a shitty human being who beat my ass is he a good a role model? I'm not even that masculine I think it comes down to being dominant in a sexual setting.
You're whining that you didn't have someone make you a man... You should have joined a fraternity
I'm a complete and utter coward. I've had chances to have a gf/sex but when I got close I just couldn't. I'm completely fucked.
I just want to fuck, I don't want a girl friend.
>>26855865
smoooth silky thighs
>>26855865
standards and naive romantic ideals.
Most ugly guys I know girls do not possess these things.
>>26858249
I'm not whining. I had a decent father and went to an all male Jesuit high school, which is basically like being in a frat.
I still turned out fucked up, it was because I bought into the whole "liberal rebellion against society" meme. Thinking that my anti-establishment thoughts were an outgrowth of the 60s and I could someday help achieve peace on earth or work towards. I literally thought borders were bad and not necessary.
I also blame the Liberation Theology which gets a lot of credit at Jesuit schools. It's a leftist form of religion.
My point is that if the culture itself had been more conservative or structured, or less feminist, I might have turned out better.
Even looking back to my childhood, my dad could be a hothead. He never hit me or my mother, but he would yell frequently. Growing up my mom always told me she hoped I wouldn't turn out like him. I think that affected me more than I would like to believe. Even though she told me she loved him and to respect him and look up to him, she also did not want me being as angry as he was.
And so I kind of grew up hating and resenting my father because my mother would always take my side in things. Even though she herself is very conservative, if she just would've shut up and my dad took a more active role, I probably wouldn't have grown up with fucked up views regarding traditional masculinity.
Now I finally want to be fully masculine, but I'm 24 almost 25 and it seems like that ship might've sailed.
>>26856024
>SJW boogeyman
WIll this meme ever end?
Even if all of that bullshit you wrote was true it only happens in america, so who cares
>>26855865
>there is someone who has it worse
Not really. We have it the worst. Yes there are people who have it worse on some areas of life but they are still normies. We aren't. Normies try to avoid people like us and I bet most of us are fine with it.
I knew an ugly manlet. He was dumb too. But he knew if he becomes a good provider, desperate women will want him. Eventually it happened. Can you imagine us doing the same?
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>>26855865
I have Tourette
I talk alone, and escalates to screaming when completely alone
I can't stand still
Coprolalia was incredibly common to me when I was younger, learned to control it through self-awareness now
>>26855865
>So what is our problem?
nobody can compete with mai waifu
that plus I'm pretty antisocial
>>26855865
whats wrong is you cycle between thinking whats wrong with you and whats wrong with others. you don't give a shit about getting a girlfriend, and when you do none of the girls you could actually date are good enough for you. you've probably spent a few dozen hours around real women and thousands on porn. your entire understanding of relationships can be described in a youtube video.
>>26859354
Lots of people have it far worse. You have a roof over your head, you can eat, you can even play vidya and watch animu.
Fucking entitled little shit who thinks his biggest problem being tfwnogf is in any way relevant compared to lots of people out there with real problems.
>>26859483
Pretty accurate tee bee aitch family
Pretty sure most guys on /r9k/ don't socialize and stay inside all day and then wonder why a girl doesn't materialize out of no-where in their bedroom instantly liking them.
>>26855865
i put up walls to protect myself. the one who got through probably doesn't remember me or realize the impact she had.
i have a general disdain for stupidity and recognize my own stupidity which results in me striving to unstupid myself on a daily basis, its a vicious cycle.
>>26859871
Yeah except I stay inside because I know I'm not good enough for other people.
>>26860159
Think*
There's statistically shittier retards who socialize
Anyone else have bi polar self esteem? 50% of the time I feel like its all in my head and the only reason I don't gave gf is because of myself and that I am plenty good looking enough to get one, then the other 50% of the time I think "who am I kidding I'm just an ugly loser that's why I don't have a gf"
I don't know, I'm pretty sure my lack of self esteem is holding me back. I get a decent amount of female attention and I always sperg out and shut them down.
>>26855865
Austism and ethnicity
>>26860261
Autism I mean
>>26855865
depression senpai
>>26855865
> So what is our problem?
I'm a super shitty person. I'm the most obnoxious person I know. I'm super loud, pessimistic and want to kill myself constantly.
I don't want to trouble anyone else with my bullshit.
>>26855897
I never want to date someone like me.
I don't like myself, why would I like somebody like me?
>>26855865
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
I'm shy (boring until I get into a proper conversation) and have commitment issues.
>>26855865
>6'3"
>/fit/
>Attractive face
I haven't had sex or a gf in 3 years and the only reason I ever did was because I was in Japan.
I have never had a non Japanese gf.
Height is a meme, looks are a meme. Yes they count for something but social competence counts for 100x more.
Or maybe I'm just that autistic.
>>26860356
> Height is a meme, looks are a meme. Yes they count for something but social competence counts for 100x more.
I agree with this guy.
I can't find an explanation why I see fat black ugly chimpanzee fucks on the street with at least 6/10 cuties or why I see virgin autists who could be models forever alone.
>>26855865
Genetics.
The "GENETICALLY SUPERIOR" Black Pill thing originated by Eggman isn't just a fucking meme, and it's not spouted only by morbidly obese basement dwelling shut-ins, no matter how much the detractors wish it were so.
Jordan Peterson, Professor of Psychology at the University of Toronto knows it;
skip to 58:50 and watch for about 9 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4071&v=t966lVrHEzo
Professor Gad Saad knows it, talked about it on his most recent Joe Rogan Experience appearance, also alluded to the Beta Uprising with "a society of sexually frustrated men will not be very quiet".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDhtTHP16aA
>>26856024
I'm glad I missed the brunt of this.
Most of you are 18-20, I'm 28 and when I was in elementary school we had tire swings, bigtoys, competitive soccer at recess. But shortly after the tie swings and bigtoys were deemed "too dangerous" and taken down, competitive soccer was banned for being "un inclusive".
I still went through the muh diversity indoctrination, but it was nowhere near as bad as what some of you had, and nowadays we have kids being seeded with gender identity nonsense and other SJW propaganda.
>>26857767
this, nothing 2deep4you
>>26855865
>We can't blame our looks
Yes we can. Women are shallow and that's the main they care about it. If you aren't attractive then you need lots of money, but then she'll just use your money and cheat on you with someone attractive.
Im a beta fag and havent been single in a while... And she is cute. If you actually try, you could get lucky
I'm pretty sure the reason is that most robots here are mentally retarded or have some kind of mental illness that they themselves can't see but is highly obvious to the normies around them, and therefore don't ever improve upon.
>>26855919
>We radiate negativity, which alienates people from us, which in turn alienates us from them, creating a vicious cycle.
couldn't have said it better.
>>26860706
> If you actually try, you could get lucky
How exactly did you "try"? I'm interested.
>>26860470
People always seem to forget the factor of luck and opportunity.
Your typical virgin autist who hangs out in his room all day has no opportunity to find a gf. The fat chimp who is around ladies all day long has plenty of opportunity.
Of course, when the autist does get the opportunity he could be unlucky and find himself presented with only the most vapid, worthless women. While the chimp is spending time with all the qts.
>>26860326
Why would someone like you when you don't like yourself?
>>26855919
It's not fair because we didn't start out negative. They alienated us which caused us to ponder so much as to why they did so, and we became negative as a result.
I'll say this time and time again. Too much introspection can and lead to some sort of negative state of mind.
>>26855865
I like this photograph.
