WHO HERE DRUNK AF
Alcoholism thread
>what are you drinking
>what have you drank tonight
>your age
>your bank balance
>why you are feeling suicidal tonight
Kill yourself you indian cunt
Dude how is alcoholism real? Just stop drinking and you are good to go.
>>26853328
NOPE
NO DRUGS
NO ALCOHOL
NO CIGARETTES
>>26853745
Hahaha, you're not wrong. Wish it was that easy tho.
>>26853833
How hard is it really? I was addicted to candy and I still am. But what I did is to avoid buying them. Obiously alcohol =/= candy, but is it really hard to refrain from buying it?
im not drunk af but i am drunk wassup faM
>>26853863
Alcohol is physically addictive. It's a GABA agonist that causes pain and seizures (which can kill) in addicts when they stop it.
It's entirely different from trying to stop eating candy.
>>26853863
Please use your head. If so much people just can't stop drinking this is because it's hard to stop. I don't even drink but I understand that
>>26853863
Alcoholism is something like mental acrobatics...
So, I'm capable of buying a liter of vodka and drinking it in one day. Most of the times that I've bought a liter of vodka, I've drank it in one day. But, every time I consider buying a liter of vodka, I tell myself that I won't just drink it all, I'll savor it, have maybe two drinks, I'll unwind but not get shitty, etc, etc. And wouldn't you know, I drink it all in one day and feel like shit for the next two.
I tell myself that it won't be that way, that I won't do that again. But I do almost every time.
>>26853759
I only smoke but that too only 3 to 4 ciggies a day, drugs and alcohol make me ultra suicidal and paranoid af
drunk as fuck
my gf passed out; told me to wake her up at 2 to drink more
i might; might just play some retro vidya and say fuck her
>>26853904
he meant to say antagonist
>>26853952
No, I meant what I said. Alcohol is not a GABA antagonist.
>>26853952
>An agonist is a chemical that binds to a receptor and activates the receptor to produce a biological response.
I don't think I'm an alcoholic. But it's old crow tonight. I usually drink alone.
Slept with my new gf last night and had nightmares again, always seems to happen at the beginning of a new relationship. Last night it was an asteroid hitting the earth, and everyone I knew was killing themselves before the atmosphere cooked off or something. Thought of telling my girl in the morning but didn't want her to think I'm crazy.
>>26853343
>Beer Barrel Burbon
>over 10 shots. Don't really know, Just kind of pour out of bottle into glass
>24 years old
>$1,378.70
>not feeling suicidal, Just drinking to forget it all like every night
>>26853904
>>26853924
It seems to me like people get addicted to it, if they are predisposed to be alcoholic. If not what made you guys drink alcohol? Was it peer pressure?
>>26854065
I started because my parents drink, I keep doing it because I'm fucking stupid
>>26854065
I'm the first guy you quoted.
I'm not and never have been addicted to alcohol. I just understand how chemicals work.
I drink maybe once a year. I'm physically addicted to opioids, though.
>>26854095
When I went to rehab the opiate guys usually had what looked like a more painful withdrawal, but less deadly obviously without anti seizure medicine
about 15 shots in on some Kraken
>2 nips of woodford reserve and a bottle of hop hog
>nothing
>29
>71,000.55
>I'm not at the moment, but I'm sure I will over some stupid shit.
>>26854095
Good for you, but you are obviously not an addict in the sense of you losing control over your drinking habits. So my question was not directed towards you.
>>26854093
>I started because my parents drink
What does that even mean? Negative habits in my family made me adopt healthier alternatives. Family doesn't seem to be the cause of addiction.
>>26854065
Curiosity. Had my first drink at 15 maybe. Stole it out of mom's liquor cabinet, had a rum and coke. My friends when I was younger always pegged me as the alcoholic, I'm sure I have some kind of predisposition.
Over the years and through college I've continually drank more and more. Started drinking in the morning, started drinking for days at a time. Experienced withdrawal. Shits crazy, you drink hard spirits for 4-5 days in a row and then go through the DTs and it's kind of a trip. You can close your eyes and it's like your eyes are still open.
I'm 26 now, still occasionally fuck up and drink for a few days at a time. I'm mostly good. Try to please myself with beer, but can still kick back a case a night.
>>26854160
I had my first drink when I was around 12, I probably would have drank anyway but that's how it started, not everyone learns from their parents mistakes
>>26854125
You're exactly correct. Alcohol withdrawals are terrible. They're less painful than opioid withdrawals but more dangerous because of seizures.
Alcoholics in recovery are always put on benzos and stepped down. They usually have their symptoms handled very well.
Opiate addicts can get something for their withdrawals but it's very common for some rehabs to not give them anything.
Opiate withdrawal is very painful. It causes hot and cold flashes constantly, restless leg syndrome (your legs ache if they're not in constant motion), your bones, muscles, joints, head all hurt terribly. You're nauseated and vomiting constantly and you get diarrhea and intestinal pain as well as many other symptoms.
Opiate withdrawals also feel more painful then they should because it's a natural response for the brain to not produce as many endorphins when you're an opiate addict. This causes pain sensations to feel more intense than they normally do.
>>26854065
>peer pressure
That's the most idiotic thing I have read all day. You sound underaged.
I bet you are also a vegan. And gay. And fat.
>>26854160
>Good for you, but you are obviously not an addict in the sense of you losing control over your drinking habits. So my question was not directed towards you.
You quoted me so I answered you. If your question was not directed at me then you should not have quoted my post.
found it hard to score at parties and stuff, then i started drinking around late 15yo and suddenly ez
12th day sober now. The last time I had a few drinks, it was the usual. A few beers at the pub with friends. Then more drinks at home until I pass out. However the day after that I had one of the worst hangovers ever and felt more shitty than ever before.
That must have scared me a bit because I still don't have the slightest craving to drink. Plus I was sick with the flu for a few days, so that helped in not wanting to drink.
>>26854179
Would you say you had no control over it?
>not everyone learns from their parents mistakes
I am not implying that addicts don't know the health issues related to alcoholism.
>>26854200
My mistake. Thought you were an addict so I replied to your post.
>>26854187
Alcohol withdrawal can be nuts. I've gone through some solid DTs at least half a dozen times. Blood pressure and pulse just rocket up, feelings of impending doom, hallucinations and nightmares (when you can sleep), shakes so bad you can't feed yourself... It's kind of scary. I've had enough experience with hallucinogens that I fare the psychological aspects fairly well, but it is major taxing on your body. I can imagine that if you continually pour a depressant into you central nervous system, at some point when you remove that depressant it will cause your CNS to fire up. Takes 3 days minimum to get back to an almost normal, if you can get yourself to eat and sleep.
>>26854257
Did your "hangover" last for three days, include flash sweats vivid dreams and shaking?
ok you guys i didnt come into this thread tryijng to talk abotu alcoholism and sobriety im drunk just trying to talk about drunk shit wtf is wrong with you all
what is the science behind hangovers, i have drank to the point of throwing up many times but have never had a hangover
>>26854271
I always have control over it I'm just a weak piece of shit, there's always the choice to not drink
>tfw can only feel when i'm drunk
>>26854272
There's no reason you should be going into DT.
DT is very dangerous and is easy to manage with benzodiazepines.
If your addiction is so bad you're going into DT's without meaning to you can talk to a doctor and get benzodiazepines to manage the symptoms.
>>26854271
>My mistake. Thought you were an addict so I replied to your post.
No worries, mate.
>>26854271
Honestly it's probably because of my depression, I wasn't an alcoholic the first time I drank,it slowly developed over time
>>26854319
Haven't been to a doctor in maybe ten years. I'm familiar with the fact that alcohol withdrawal can be combated with benzos, but I've never had them. I've only thought once that maybe I should get medical help when going through withdrawal. I'm also scared to be forever labeled an alcoholic, as it might influence health/life insurance and other things.
>>26853328
>seagrams
>half a pint
>21
>2870.42
>just trying to numb myself from the days that blend into eachother
>>26853943
how about you uh.... idk
GET THE FUCK OUT NORMIE REEEE
>>26854305
>>26854331
How can you be in control if your depression is causing your addiction? (I assume you didn't choose to be depressed)
>>26854304
There's a lot we know about hangovers. In general woman and older people are more prone to get them and people who drink dark liquor tend to have hangovers at a higher rate than people who don't.
Hangovers are caused by two major factors, dehydration and a slightly toxic metabolite of alcohol called acetaldehyde.
You can mitigate the hangover effects from dehydration by drinking water and electrolytes before sleep. Acetaldehyde affects all people differently. Some people will always feel sick with that chemical present in their blood. There's not really much you can due to prevent the hangover effects from acetaldehyde besides not drinking.
Too many beers here and there to count.
Convinced myself I needed it to be "creative".
Convinced myself I wasn't drinking liquor so I'm not a dependent.
Now I attribute all positive actions I take to being a little drunk.
It's the sandtrap. Not deep, just here, comfortable, killing myself.
Am I an alcoholic if I down 1 litre of makers mark and at least 8 high strength IPAs over the course of 12-14 days?
Been doing this solidly for at least four years. I'm 29 year old, male, Irish descendent.
>>26853343
>str8 belvie
>irish coffee and belvedere
>21 :3
>implying
>my suicidal chioldhood friend doesn't gay-love me
killself
>>26854304
basically when you drink, you do a lot of shit to your brain etc... and one of it is your liver releasing some enyzme, and when tat leaves, and the alcohol is processed it has some toxin, that causes you to feel utter shit. Look it up on youtube, explaisn it well, i gave what I took from wathcing it like 1 year ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq1F4It-3RM
>>26854365
Your doctor cannot tell your insurance anything without your permission.
If you seek help for alcohol addiction it will not get back to your insurance unless they have to give approval for the medication or for the doctor visit.
You can avoid them knowing the reason for the visit if you see your normal doctor (not an addiction specialist) and pay for your script with cash and say you have no insurance. Although, you might not have to do that. The insurance does not know the reason you're given benzodiazepines unless they need to approve some paperwork related to addiction.
It's very easy to see a doctor for help and not have your insurance find out about it.
Also, if you don't pay for your insurance (for example if you're on your parents insurance or you're on state insurance) then they cannot raise your rates due to the abuse. This last piece may vary from state to state, but this is the case for the state I live in.
>>26854391
Because I can just stop, i can stop buying the shit, I just don't, you're asking me some difficult questions that I don't really know how to answer.
>>26854454
In a day, perhaps, not 2 weeks. thats not even enough to get drunk. Not an alcoholic if you're just drinking alcohol, like saying you're a meth addict if you only smoke abit to get a buzz and not to get fucked up.
ones functional, other is doing it to the extreme.
>>26854486
I've never gotten a hangover though and I've been taking like 7shots a night for the past month. I always make sure to stay extra hydrated though and I go running every day so thats probably why I don't get em.
>>26854391
I honestly can't even tell you that I feel better drinking than during long periods of sobriety, I usually feel better after a week of being sober, but alcohol is like a siren
>>26854514
>ones functional, other is doing it to the extreme.
how about longevity in terms of liver function if I were to keep up this style of drinking? Will it all eventually all catch up in my 40s and wipe me out?
I hear and see things if I don't drink a fifth a day. sometimes my stomach turns on me as well so tums does the trick I got hemorrhoids from shitting carelessly while plastered
>>26853343
>Jim Beam Bourbon (1.75L on sale at BevMo)
>Jim Beam
>21
>$4,982 / $1,542 in Stock
>Not suicidal, just alcoholic and depressed. Want a different job.
>>26854622
You're increasing your chance of liver bladder and esophageal cancer, you probably aren't drinking enough to blow up your liver
>>26854622
>>26854644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bOKsOveYD0
I have something to say... fucking robot.
>>26853328
All you fuckers need to start exercising and eating healthy it aint just the alcohol making you feel like shit it's a multitude of things. Ever since I started exercising daily I've become immune to all the negatives from alcohol I could drink a 5th of vodka and wake up the next day feeling like a million bucks because every time I run my brain creates new neural connections and gets all the blood flowing to my organs. I remember when I used to be like all of you I thought alcoholism was real and quitting alcohol would be impossible until I started doing the exercise, healthy eating, taking multi vitamin, fish oil, and vitamin D's everyday.
>>26853343
>beer, might move over to bourbon very soon
>7 beers so far
>20
>approx. $1100, excluding my student debt of course
>i'm not
>>26854622
You are risking Liver disease drinking so frequently good news is the Liver is the only organ in the body that can heal itself fast but be careful because once you got Liver disease you'll have a shit liver forever.
>>26853328
Just drank two faggy miller lite margaritas(8%), a Blue Moon, and a 1/4 bottle of dark rum Bacardi. Feels like garbage to whiskey by itself.
>>26853343
>look above
>21 at 135lb
>I am feeling suicidal because I live in a perpetual state of rage and hate
>>26854720
Anon>>26854789
Here. You are a fag. I can drink a litre and not be hungover the next day. A fifth is fucking nothing.
>>26854065
>Was it peer pressure?
is this how normies actually think? i drink because i enjoy getting fucked up.
>drink almost daily and think I'm probably an alcoholic
>see people talking about drinking a shitton more than I do and feel reassured
I'm only on 3 drinks daily or so. Should probably try to stop before it ramps up too much more.
>>26854281
Not that bad. Just a headache that wouldn't go away. Feeling like I would throw up constantly. Lasted for 3 days.
>>26855146
mate that's nothing. i thought you were going to say 10 beers a day or something, which isn't that bad either, but you were building up to a mediocre number.
>>26853924
Yep, literally every time I buy vodka... I love it but just no.
>>26853328
>alcoholism
>amphetamines abuse
>opiates addiction
>tobacco addiction
>psychedelics damage
>vidya addiction
ive had 9 shots of gin and 3 beers tonight
im only 18
itll be a fucked life from here im sure
>>26855325
what delics have you taken
and what amphetamines
>>26854286
Shut the fuck up dude. We can talk about whatever the fuck we want to talk about.
>>26855372
acid, shrooms, E
months of vyvanse and years of adderall
forgot about the months of dabs i did, i doubt that causes long term damage from the thc, but the butane + lack of oxygen inhalation is something else
>>26854720
Holy shit you're retarded. Not even gonna bother telling you why what you said is a load of steaming bullshit. You're not worth the effort.
>>26854454
Irish descent lmao retarded american faggot
>>26854756
The liver is not capable of healing itself completely.
Sure, if you quit drinking 100% it might cause some scars on your liver to disappear over time but there is irreversible damage done to the organ.
>>26855429
>E
mdma i'm assuming, how often did you take it? I took it once a week and I felt it fucked me up for a while. came good eventually. the lsd and shrooms are fine.
>>26855526
give the liver more credit.
>>26855546
The liver is not the kidneys. It cannot heal itself well at all.
Why do you think there's so many alcoholics denied liver transplants?
>>26855530
took it for only 2 weeks 2x a week, it was interesting, it had its pros and cons
green text feels please
>be sort of an alco, more a binge drinker
>get blackout every other day
>lost licence for drink driving but got It back
>always paranoid that I will get pulled over
>buy a six pack and try to be normal
>barely get a buzz
>cant drive because it takes a fucking year to fuck off out of my body
>next time get a 12 pack
>doesn't do shit
>have to either drink a shitload of vodka/wine to even feel half drunk
>by the time you feel drunk you black out
>wake up and cringe at shit you said to people
>didn't really even feel drunk or happy at the time
>get withdrawals
>drink again
>>26855582
because they deserve it less over someone who isn't a degenerate loser.
still, you're underestimating the liver's resilience.
yeah man relapase #5
>>26856017
recent pic?
Not drunk but I drank two large glasses of wine leftover. No other booze in the house
>>26856036
absolute madman
two. LARGE. glasses. of.
WINE
I
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E
>>26856034
ofc not zzzz
>>26853343
>gran legacy vodka
>four loko gold +vodka
>22
>-$178
>I'm not, this is going to be a great month
>>26853343
Im >>26858009 downing vodka tonight trying to get myself together im not suicidal but depressed
>>26854644
Literally this, my uncle drank for decades and what eventually got him wasn't withdrawl, it wasn't liver disease or anything like that it was esophageal cancer. Your esophagus isn't as strong as people assume it might be and it's surprisingly prone to cancer.
>>26854720
I would advocate that anyone drinking a few beers a day should take multivitamins and especially vitamin d because alcohol has a kind of leeching effect on the human body, and once you're d12 levels get too low you're at risk for all sorts of fucked up stuff, you go mentally insane and that's just for starters
I love how there's a different name for alcohol addiction, alcoholism, instead of just calling it a plain old drug addiction, which it is.
It's also funny how alcoholics think that they're any better than other drug addicts. Including cocaine, methamphetamines and opiate addicts.
Alcohol addiction is one of the worst addictions to battle.
Alcohol is a GABA agonist. GABA A/B is very important for proper body function. Google it, I'm not about to explain it.
When GABA down regulation happens, you need more alcohol to fill the now more receptor sites in order to achieve the same effect. Abrupt cessation causes violent up regulation. This is what causes seizures and strokes for alcoholics.
Alcohol puts tremendous stress on your liver/kidneys. GABA agonist have been shown to cause things like dementia. Alcohol withdrawals are just as bad as opiate withdrawals. The only difference is that with an opiate withdrawal you feel like you're going to die, and you potentially could if you had underlying health issues. But with an alcohol withdrawal you can actually die even if you're otherwise healthy.
Picture how hard it is to quit something that you can just buy at a grocery store.
Day two of being sober
Sweating like a pig
Smelly sweat
Spend most of the day so far analysing dreams I'd rather not have had
Checked out stats because first of the month
BMI still going down
Body fat still going up
>It will be worth it
>tfw can't get drunk no matter how much I drink anymore
>>26858320
Good luck, anon. Hopefully you will start to feel better soon.
>tfw never been drunk before because you never drunk more than a single glass at family gatherings
Probably time I just gave that up and drank more
OP here, good morning bros.
How are your hangovers?
i had to give up drinking because it was ruining my gym progress
despite lifting for 2-3 years i still looked like shit. turns out it was because i drank 2 beers at least 3-4 times a week. just like everyone else in this thread, i would think that's nothing, but i will never ever be lean if i'm drinking
now i just smoke pot all the fucking time.
