Umaru is feeling the Bern. Why aren't you?
Bernie is a political opportunist. In 3 decades, he has never authored a passable piece of legislation. He claims to be a democratic socialist, but what has he *actually* done to forward the cause of democratic socialism? He is not dynamic, nor an activist; he is misleading a lot of young people it seems, and i've seen so many times that people will vote for him and not for Hillary..it is the kind of divisiveness that could ultimately result in an abortive Republican presidency. Hillary is actually qualified, she has a presence in international politics; for now, foreign policy is absolutely the most important job that the POTUS will have. If a cuck like Bernie shows at the UN, the other nations will be like literal who?? He is just a niche politician using rhetoric to undermine what could be a progressive sway in american politics. Don't vote for him, vote for Hillary. He should really just be Hillary's VP, desu, but he's too much of an egotist for that. Plus his voice makes me want to vomit.
>>26675073
Better dead than red.
Can't stump the Trump.
>>26675219
Hillary is a literal cuckold.
>>26675242
>not wanting based bill back in the house
>>26675242
She may be a literal cuckold, but she is not a professional, political or ideological cuckold like bernie
Because there's only one man who can Make America Great Again.
President Donald J Trump.
>>26675073
Found you, Paco.
>>26675073
Umaru is a well known Trump supporter.
>>26675219
Watch this Shillary supporter - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
>>26675073
No, Bernie Sanders tax plans is unrealistic and his trade plans downright stupid. His foreign policy s a mess, he tries to rep how he wasn't in favor or the Iraq War but he's all for funding groups like the Free Syrian Army in Syria that're trying to overthrow Assad. Just like Hillary, Bernie can say a bunch of sweet words but realistically his plans wouldn't work. I agree that the top 1% should be regulated, but it's downright obvious that raising the taxes and failing to close the loopholes (which he can't) would only make the situation far more worse for the middle class. I'm a NEET but fuck man I want Trump to take my neetbux away and make me into an Aryan, fuck socialism and progressivism and nigger obama.
>>26675219
Oh, and I forgot to respond to your "foreign policy is the most important job" bit. You actually think Hillary's foreign policy is logical and sound? She wants to establish a no-fly zone in Syria and shoot down Russian jets, people that've been helping solve the conflict. She's trying to play with "smart power" or in other words, let's try and put sanctions on them and force them to do what we want. Remember what happened in Cuba and Russia? Yeah, it doesn't work well. She says she's learned from Iraq, but then she does Libya and now she's going to fuck up Syria if she gets elected. Fuck man, why aren't you voting for Trump? His foreign policy is an isolationist one, he's going to stop funding terrorists in Syria and open communications with Russia based on mutual respect. You can't call Putin a tyrant everyday and expect the guy to talk to you, jesus. Fucking democrats are weak as shit, I lean left too but god damn if you vote for either Bernie or Shillary you're the problem.
>>26675219
Hillary is all those things, yes, but she made a silly and foolish mistake by handling her State Dept. emails as she did.
She is officially under federal investigation. Do you think that this issue will simply die down if Hillary wins the nomination? Hell no. Look at Benghazi. We've barely seen the beginning of this new issue.
If Hillary wins the nomination, she will be walking right into a big scandal. This will damage her credibility. It will deter voters - especially those on the fence.
We can't afford to let that happen. It's a recipe for letting someone like Trump win.
>>26675219
Lmao
>vote for Hilary
She's going to be indicted by the FBI, and for good reason. She's a crook, her political career is littered with scandals and lies. Anyone voting shilary into the presidency after she has proven time and time again she can't be trusted is an idiot. Also, she's a mouthpiece for corporatism, she doesn't give a fuck about politics, she just likes money.
>>26675073
but i am feeling the bern my brujo
>>26675503
Oh I'm sure someone who was the head of the State Department is somehow less informed about global politics than you anon, don't tip your fedora too hard. Isolationism is not an option, nor has it been since the 19th century. Our economy is a global economy and our culture is globalized. You can't be neutral on a moving train.
>>26675678
Bernie has literally no support among minority groups, which taken individually might not matter but the totality of minority voters is an absolute necessity for a political mandate and successful campaign. The email scandal would be incredibly ineffective in deterring the large democratic base from supporting hillary (they already do despite the scandal) and even though Bernie has had some superficial advances in the early primaries, the delegate count is wayyy in Hillary's favor...Bernie will *not* get the nomination, and all he is doing by continuing to campaign is detracting from the overall progressive agenda.
>>26675235
>>26675388
Fuck off degenerates stop associating anime with trump
>>26675715
I wouldn't say she's a crook. That's going a little too far into conspiracy theory retard hick territory.
She made some bad choices but they are being completely blown out of proportion by >muh guvment comin to take r guns awa people
I do agree she is a mouthpiece for corporations though, that's why I'm not voting if she becomes the nominee or I'll vote for some 3rd party who wont win. Her husband invented NAFTA for crying out loud.
Hillary and Bill are neocons, not liberals
>>26675715
Hillary has already proven capable of handling trumped up scandals (pun not really intended) in the past. She has support by corporations, because guess what, corporations are a real political entity, you can't just bury your head and think they should be ignored. Hillary is able to use corporate power for the sake of political progress. Black and white political thinking is for tryhard casuals like Bernie and Trump and their supporters.
>>26675821
Why would you give your vote to your political enemies? Even if Hillary is not rhetorically ideal, she is far better than her rivals (who will win if you vote for a bullshit third party)..We have to be cunning, the reactionaries are and so should we be. Bill didn't even invent NAFTA, btw. You are the exact reason why I hate Bernie, he is promoting the defeatist, idealistic agenda that is proven time and time again to be ineffective and actually harmful to progressive politics.
>>26675830
I think suicide is the ideal for you.
>>26675219
The fucker never had a job in his fucking life
tomato a shit
>>26675946
Are you serious? I am a fucking proletarian (I work in construction) What are you implying?
>>26675897
Stay BTFO, fag
>>26675946
oh wait i thought you were saying i never had a job...sorry bro..and yea bernie is not working class he is petit bourgeois and also basically a welfare scammer.
>>26675781
Agreed.
Trump memes are for Pepe, not anime girls.
>>26675830
>using corporate power for the sake of political progress
You mean
>using politics and the government for the sake of corporate profit
You're either a shill or dumb. Shillary is the worst fucking choice. Id rather Jeb and Jeb had no hope.
>>26675781
MAGA fgt
im not a niggerloving cuck
>>26675882
You're the worst kind of brainwashed drone. Hillary isn't better than a fresh pile of dogshit but you robot Democrats push these kinds of lies because it's not enough to steal elections, you want sovereignty over our minds as well.
Fuck off and die, and take your worthless political party with you.
>>26676060
Jeb can't even defeat a meme candidate, and your support of him shows how uninformed and unrealistic you are.
Do you think there is some scenario in the next election cycle where corporations could somehow be disregarded as a political entity? What fairy tale are you living in anon? Your ideology seems feeble to me; are you suggesting that somehow an octogenarian jew will somehow change the way that business and politics coexist by giving rich kids free college?
sissy bernie bois will be put to good use once trump wins
Bernie fans are fucking retarded.
>>26675830
>Hillary is able to use corporate power for the sake of political progress.
got that backwards senpai
>>26676156
I'm sorry are you done inferring a lot of shit about my personality from the fact that i disagree with you and you have no coherent arguments to counter what i have said??
Sovereignty over your mind? I'm pretty sure that rostie is already toasted. No, I don't need reactionaries like you. I'm happy to see you brushed into the dustbin of history. People like you are an aberration, you're like a fucking appendix, vestigial and prone to irritation.
america does not need communism
>>26676253
Coherent arguments against progressive ideology being harmful to progressive politics and all the other weak minded garbage you're typing off a talking point memo?
No I don't know how to argue with people who don't know how to think. I can only hope that you're actually a paid staffer, because your kind of political idiocy is depressing otherwise.
>>26675781
You know what is degenerate? Posting on an anime website.
>>26676353
Ideology is largely harmful to effective politics. This is a rational proposition. Ideology is for the masses. I am a big fan of Henry Kissinger, actually, dude was GOAT statesman and a motherfucking killer. My favorite ex president is Nixon. Hillary will be the most effective foreign policy president since Nixon. You are letting ideology and prejudice cloud your perspective. Hillary is an actual conservative candidate. She will not fanservice the adolescents who think they know what socialism is, nor will she wank the degenerate rednecks who are currently wrecking the GOP. The Republicans have no game, and you must know it..Two candidates with marginal status as a N. American and Trump who I think is really trolling and if not he is just an idiot. Trump is like the GOP's bernie..if Hillary doesn't win, the system is broken and american politics have been lost to cretinism.
>>26676441
>I am a big fan of Henry Kissinger
>My favorite ex president is Nixon
>>26676441
>if my candidate doesn't win the system is broken
>>26676441
You cannot escape ideology. Fuck off globalist shill.
>>26676475
problem?like you know the first thing about politics you meme loving faggot
>>26676579
Ideology is a farce, there is nothing to escape it is literally a spook. In what way does ideology impact the function of power beyond the realm of propaganda and opinion mongering? Nice try, casual marxist; maybe next time you can formulate an actual response.
>>26676647
>function of power
And thus you expose your ideology. You're too far gone to argue with.
All I'll say is that Nixon left office in disgrace. Clinton is more of a criminal than Nixon was and has already proven to be a worse statesman. It's delusional to think she was a good secretary of state.
The rest of your posts are just drivel than Trump supporters wish they were mentally ill enough to pull off.
>>26676647
Globalist capitalism is an ideology. How is this in any way debatable?
>>26676738
>and thus you expose your ideology
how so? you sound like you read 5 pages out of Foucault.
>>26676796
>hurr ideology is a spook
>proceeds to ramble on about his ideology
just fuck off. You don't have enough self awareness to pretend to be intelligent.
>>26676789
"Global Capitalism"..Can you tell me what those words actually describe? You are using a gross abstraction to make reality fit into your ideology. If you can't clearly tell me what is meant by the term "global capitalism" then how do you expect to get your point across? I don't care, I'm just saying regurgitating outdated (even for marxists) talking points is a poor way to convince the skeptical.
>>26676895
Don't bother, he probably literally believe that pigs wearing top hats spend their days making sure people are poor.
>>26676884
I haven't said two words about an ideology that I haven't got. There is no such thing as a global capitalist ideology. You confuse policy for principle and you're calling me ignorant?
>>26676950
Not that guy, anon. You can't even keep your posters straight and you think you can make a point? Wow great expression of power there.
>>26676940
kek
>tfw your mom tells you to turn down Leftover Crack and do the dishes
FUCKING CAPITALIST NIGHTMARE!
>>26676997
Either way, neither of you were clear about what you meant, you're just shitposting and using words like ideology when you don't even know how to define them.
>Implying Umaru would ever support Bernie
>Not voting Cruz
Kill yourself senpai
>>26677049
Look up the fucking dictionary definition of ideology and claim that you don't have one, that it's a "spook."
Now hurry up and say something stupid enough so I don't have to reply anymore.
>>26677150
I actually see your perspective, and my adherence to controversy itt has been a little stupid. I do think ideology is problematic, and the dictionary definition is really sufficient to cover its multiple connotations. Anyway my whole point was to try to convince people that Bernie is a political opportunist which he is, if you look at his actual record it's obvious. Hillary might be a shill and a crook to some degree but it is more important to elect a figure head with some cache in international politics than a marginal figure who is just saying the rhetorical things that you want to hear. Whatever..
>>26677303
the dictionary definition *isn't* really sufficient
>>26677118
She cries and whines if she's not given free stuff. And then her brother, saddled with liberal guilt, hands it over to her.
She's a complete neet.
>>26677303
Rhetoric and ideology is what leads a country in a direction. You compared Clinton to Nixon. Well Sander's closest comparison is Reagan. Reagan pulled the country so far to the right that the US doesn't even know what left wing is anymore. THAT is what rhetoric and strong political ideology acheive. A shift will come, and the populists being more powerful than they have been in decades are proving it. It's only a matter of when.
Either way, this was a just barely productive conversation. Cheers, and as a Clinton supporter you are most certainly not my friend.
>>26677373
I'm not saying this is a bad thing by the way.
She's a neet goddess who can pass as one of the normies as she undermines their way of life. A true revolutionary.
>>26677506
Bernie's no Reagan of course, that's the only reason all this Shillary garbage even kind of works.
>>26677506
alright then; did you know that Reagan and Thatcher were both successful because their campaigns employed methods created for Public Relations and Marketing? It wasn't ideology, it was opinion farming/manufacturing consensus. Ideology is pretty much the way people sublimate/portray their idiosyncratic desires in a socially mediated setting. Political power makes use of ideology, but it is not ideologically driven. Populism will only work when political processes become ineffective due to corruption and ultimately populism is another form of mass manipulation. I wish I could live in the world of my youth, when I believed ideas were essential to the way the world is shaped, but I have come to the conclusion that it is the manipulation of desires that matters most, that most people are essentially drones and that those in power are there to create an international accord, a globalized economy and essentially to baby sit the masses so they do not destroy the planet.
>>26677373
If you are a NEET voting for a literal communist you should kill yourself right now for being retarded
You realize that under a communist system everyone has to work for the 3 peanut government rations they get, right?
The only reason the NEET lifestyle exists is because of the excesses of capitalism
>>26677646
>those in power are there to create an international accord, a globalized economy and essentially to baby sit the masses so they do not destroy the planet.
And you support this?
>>26677646
Blah blah blah ok Stirner whatever you say.
>>26677680
Globalization has already accomplished a lot. Factors such as poverty, starvation and violence are decreasing; access to education and healthcare is becoming more widespread. There is a confirmation bias for people who believe that the world is getting worse, and a lot of that is due to the fact that people have a greater access to more information than ever before...so since they are more aware of the world's problems they will believe that somehow the world has more problems than it ever has, but this is demonstrably false. I don't see any reason to believe that people aren't as happy now as they would be with more autonomy, essentially even under the most tyrannical situations an individual is free to do as he or she chooses...most people just want security and relative prosperity. I don't like consumer culture, but that is a cultural issue and one that I hope will be resolved over time.
>>26677662
The government gives money to provide for the neet lifestyle. Capitalists want neets to either work demeaning jobs out of hateful spite or for neets to grovel for jobs they'll say they don't deserve because of no work experience/mental illness/not a woman/or any other arbitrary reason they can think of.
And if neets want to work (Allah forbid) then the government forces those capitalist cocksuckers to take them in.
>>26677662
>bernie
>communist
>>26678280
>2016
>not being a telecommuting programmer/web designer
It's just like being a NEET but with more money.
>>26678502
>working
>it's just like being a NEET
