Hey, I was wondering what other fellow robots/ cyborgs can tell me what they do for a living. Since I need some ideas for jobs I can do at home.
neetbux and doing mechanical turk jobs for a couple of extra cents
Mostly art commissions and sometimes reselling stuff
>>26672302
around how much do u make monthly? (it's cool if you don't want to tell me the exact amount, but a rough estimate would be nice
>>26672204
Best job option is IT tech, hands down.
You basically get paid to dick around on the internet all day.
>>26672204
Programmer / Web developer
Easy to learn, anyone can do it if they have free time and internet access.
Job market is great, low supply, high demand
Fun/easy to do, i just write code, listen to music/ watch tv, and post on 4chan most days.
I previously worked in retail sales.
Worst fucking thing ever.
>stand all day
>sell shit to dumb gulliable people
>shitty hours
>grumpy managers with shit for brains
Never going back.
Fucking ever.
>>26672334
2500-3000euro, I am somewhat popular and pander now to Fire Emblem fates. It is more money than I need. Sometimes I make a bit less, but it still no problem to live with it.
>>26672363
how is it easy to learn
we have some mandatory programming 101 in my uni and it's a nightmare
I mean obviously it's not that hard in of itself but I just can't imagine how much harder it gets when you start having to learn anything but the most basic of shit
>>26672363
do you know any good sites to learn or know any good books for beginners?
>>26672390
How do you get into that business? Where would be a good place to learn about it?
>>26672363
Can you show me one of the websites you made?
>>26672416
w3schools is great.
I recommend using the LAMP stack.
Php is pretty good
http://www.w3schools.com/
>>26672466
Its art so just make shit people want.
Game dev is getting bigger and bigger. you can jump into the indie scene in a few years and make a ton of the growing mobile market. Thats what I'm currently doing.
Make porn
3D Print shit and sell on Estcy
Literally get creative.
>>26672545
can you make livable wage from it?
Neetbux.
My mom proposed I'd start a company and she'd back me. But I didn't feel the idea was solid enough. The experience would have been good but it was not really a good time. 6 months later I was put into psychoanalysis.
>>26672404
As long as you give it your all and begin to understand the logic, it will get easier.
There are great tutorials, such as >>26672545
>>26672342
Im in school for IT now, how much do you make?
I bend girders.
>>26672573
I'm making about 3000 dollars a month (before tax)
I'm 22 yo for reference.
But i live in sweden, so there may be some differences.
>>26672575
neetbux sounds cool as fuck but it's not I want to earn my cash.
>>26672610
Where do you normally find clients?
>>26672673
I don_t normally go out to find clients.
I'm employed by a company which focuses on import/export.
As a developer you can work either:
1. for any company (doing their development). Every company has to have web services/sites now a days
2. for a company which supplies web development to others. I.E you sit in a hub with other programmers getting different clients/projects
3. You freelance on sites like freelancer.com. This is hardest to do if you want to live of it. Otherwise as it is a good way to make extra money.
i like 1 and 2 as there is always the safety of having a reliable salery every month.
>>26672673
Also, if you perform a project well for someone, they will be contacting you next time they need help.
And websites constantly need new features and content.
I also get work to ex remove viruses and shit from sites.
Removing viruses always has the added benefit of learning you something new about hacking.
>>26672545
>recommending php
slow down there satan
>>26672829
You gotta admit it's a good job market anon.
If you can do a job at home, it isn't really a job, and you aren't contributing to society.
>>26672858
Idc about contributing to society I just want to make money from home any way possible.
>>26672829
>easy to learn for r9k newbies
>largest market = most work demand
>has become a lot more powerful in the last years
>a ton of assistance online
Let me guess, you use some shit like python or ASP.NET for your web development?
Enjoy spending twice the time and effort to get your shit online.
I'm a journalist for a large municipal paper. I write and edit copy for print and web pieces across all genres.
I earn roughly 70k per year.
I will decline to list my place of employment for privacy reasons.
I started in high school with journalism, and did a lot of work in college with local papers (it was also my major).
OP, the beat course of action I can tell you is to learn to write/communicate. This is easily something you can do on your own in your own home. I didn't really start believing in myself until I get some creative fiction I wrote published.
I think if you have that under your belt you'll be in a much better place. Too many people undercut communication despite the fact something like 89 percent of employers are requesting people trained in communication skills.
>>26672877
How old are ya?
for being so original
>>26672204
When I'm working I'm a machinist it's pretty nice, get left alone and make pretty good shekels
>>26672858
>you aren't contributing to society.
Kek, why should I care about society? Society never gave a shit about me.
>>26672363
Which parts are the most essential to making money? I was going to school for a compsci degree a year ago, but I had to drop out after the first semester because I'm poor, and also my dad's health was rapidly declining and I needed to take care of him.
American, so no free college.
I actually really liked programming, and I hate the shitty jobs I've gotten since then, but every time I try to start learning again something pops up or I lose motivation. I want to teach myself, but I feel like I don't have any goal or direction besides "computer science".
>>26672876
If "getting your shit online" is all you care about, sure, use PHP. If you don't want to have a clusterfuck of unmaintainable insecure spaghetti code, use literally anything else.
>>26672858
>not contributing to society
Really? You don't think luxury goods matter at all?
I'm a cook for a local restaurant during the week and on weekends I do hospice care from 6am friday until 6am sunday, make almost twice in a weekend what I do during the week. Pay bills with that and live off of my weekday pay.
I have a pill habit that is the only thing that gives me joy. But when I have enough money for them I'm incredibly happy and outgoing, sexually active, and popular. If not for this addiction I'd probably kill myself.
>>26673075
>living in the 2000
>>26672573
I started with w3schoold tutorials 8 years ago
>starting salary 2100 PLN (around 530 USD)
>2016
>8000 GBP a month (around 11300 USD)
Yeah I'd call ti livable
>>26673187
Says someone using php?
>kek
>>26673246
Whatever m8, there's a reason why I make more money than you do :^)
>>26672565
WHere is a good place to get your work noticed online?
>>26673246
I prefer other languages as much as you do but you are realistically going to work with some sort of lamp environment.
I wageslave, and me and a coworker do amateur porn together for supplemental income.
>>26674707
>and me and a coworker do amateur porn together
wat
>>26674759
Each weekend we make an amateur vid, basically film oursleves fucking. Then upload it to different sites, overtime it nets us a little extra income.
>>26674874
How the hell did you find someone to agree to this?
Jelly desu
>>26674945
We're friends and hang out outside of work. We used to get drunk and watch porn together, and figured to try it for extra cash. Been doing it for over a year now.
>>26675003
What kind of stuff do you film?
>>26675247
We try to mix it up to keep the videos different, usually it's trying out different positions or in different places. We don't make a big production or effort out of it, just put the camera on to us fucking and try to mix it up sometimes.
>>26672204
Make software for companies.
When I need more work I go around to local businesses and try to come up with automation software or a mobile app/website for them.
Starting a real job in July though because the loneliness of being home all day is crushing. It would force me to get out of my house and meet people. Also my coworkers have to interact with me.
>>26672404
Web development is easy. Use a framework and someone has done all the hard work for you, in both design and programming. You're basically a plumber connecting the pipes at that point.
If you learn more you can start to make really complex web apps but learning enough to make money is easy as piss.
>>26673068
The best way to learn practical programming is to pick a project. Come up with an idea. It doesn't have to be original in the slightest.
Then try to build it. You'll have several immediate questions that need answering. Google and StackOverflow that shit. They you'll have more questions. Rinse and repeat.
By the time you're done you'll have something for your portfolio. It will be a piece of shit, but you'll have something. And as soon as you're done you've learned enough to immediately realize "Wow, what a piece of shit. If I were to do it over again would be so much more elegant/simple/easier" Either rewrite your project or choose a new one with slightly more capability and start again.
In this way you build a portfolio and improve. If you're not in Uni it's really hard to just sit down and learn comp sci (or any science) just for its own sake. Some people can do that, other's need another motivation to learn it. So instead of just memorizing sorting algorithms and hoping a job is given to you when you're done, build a website that ranks something and when you need to sort your somethings you'll be motivated to learn and implement a sorting algorithm.
That's how I started at least. I wanted a porn site for my shitty fetish. The last owner disappeared so I built my own. It was super shitty so I rewrote it 3 times until it was less shit. Learned about LAMP, HTML, CSS, JS, server admin, networking, MySQL, profiling etc...
It's been down for years now because I can't show a porn site off for my portfolio and I was in purge mode for my fetish :[
>>26672858
That's bullshit. If I write medical device drivers and do it in an office or my home how does that change things?
If I translate manuals in my home or in an office how does that change things?
>mfw I took the bait
>>26672877
I was considering getting into music journalism, I've written for two websites before and found it pretty entertaining. I'm in my last year of school, would I be able to pursue music journalism under something more broad like a English and Media degree or would I have to pursue journalism specifically?
Anything else to know about it would be appreciated
>>26676207
Start building a resume if you're not in school yet. By this I mean publish and hold onto samples you do get published. I know we really don't hire people who haven't gotten experience.
But since you can still go to school, I think if you selected a liberal arts major like English, that'd be fine. It's better to major in journalism and then WORK for a school publication of some kind. But if you can do an English major while you work for a paper, you'd be alright. It looks great on the resume when you've basically been a journalist your whole professional life.
So
>Publish and keep samples of work
>Freelance if you can
>Major in journalism or English (what's more important is to work at a school publication)
>Intern if you can
>Take advantage of school opportunities to enter writing contests or travel abroad
Basically you'd be pretty much set. I'm 27 right meow. If you're wondering why I'm here I have a personality disorder that basically causes me to be an outcast by default (Schizoid).
Really though, it's not about having "the criteria" to be a journalist. It's about the hunger for truth and seeing the world from 1000 different story angles. That's what gives you the right to be a journalist
>>26677240
Thanks for the advice man, sorry to hear about the personality disorder, you're doing pretty well compared to most people here anyway.
Once I enter college, I'm considering starting a music blog based around my city. I'm not intending on starting the next big thing, just as a creative outlet while I'm in college. Do you reckon this would be worth it as well as publishing articles to other publications or should I just stick to writing for an already established site.
Thanks bud
>>26677529
Absolutely. A blog is actually a great thing. It showcases your writing/work, and is really good because it says to us you've got experience in things like WordPress or other web publishing platforms. That's wonderful.
I'd say keep the blog, and also write to contests or magazines as well as for your school publication. Try for an editor position if you can. Be as multi talented as possible.
So on the subject of "multiple talents", today's journalists can't just be "one trick ponies" anymore. This means you should probably have a proficiency in photography (you'd be amazed at how many photos you see online have been taken with cellphone cams), Photoshop, copy editing (my work) and InDesign (fuck this program so hard)
It sucks, I know, but journalism is evolving and news rooms are getting smaller. They're looking for people that can do it all. That's why I keep saying try your school's newspaper or lit mag. It's such incredibly valuable experience, even better if it's paid.
I'm a lucky case in that I get by on my copy and writing. I can still do those design things, but I'm a copy editor for several different departments. Like I said, you cannot be one track minded. Even I couldn't escape it in my profession.
>>26677677
Basically, your life must BECOME writing. At the moment I've got three stories on my desk, four I'm writing myself (two are creative), one is a feature story about creativity in adult life, and the other is a story about a slam poetry cafe
The hours are tough and the work is ceaseless. That's why I said you need to love this work to survive.
It's so incredibly satisfying to see your work getting thousands of hits on the web or on the front cover of the daily rag. You fall in love with each piece and see it like children getting out the door and succeeding in the world. Not to mention the pay for my position isn't bad, especially if you're single.
If this sounds like your ideal life, welcome to the noble craft of journalism
>>26677677
I do photography and use photoshop a lot as a hobby so I guess that's a good head-start. One last question, does journalism, music journalism specifically, offer the opportunity to travel around? I don't mean covering different gigs I mean moving countries to work for a different publication.
Cheers for the advice
>>26677911
Through school, yes. We have what's called an "Arts" department, which is really the whole shebang. I oversee the copy for them.
I work for a municipal paper. That means I'm pretty local, so we don't do much traveling abroad.
If you built up a really tasty resume and took advantage or your colleges study abroad opportunities (trust me, there will be many and they are cost equivalent to a semesters tuition), it's much easier to get a gig with a company somewhere abroad. I can tell you right now, being bilingual in the journalism field is basically a free ticket. We're competing for readership and Spanish speakers, German speakers, etc, are a completely untapped market.
It might be beneficial overall to study abroad or get an internship in another company, but as far as employment opportunities in the field of journalism go? I don't really know, sorry.
>>26678037
Thanks bud.
I'm located in Ireland so I have pretty easy access to european countries. No idea how hard it is to move someplace like America though.
>>26678304
Couldn't tell you that either, but if that's your goal, try and study abroad.
Programming, freelance shit.
