>mom is listening to This American Life
>the episode is about a gay, black, Trump-supporter
>"How can he support Trump?!"
>tell her that none of Trump's policies harm blacks or gays and ask why he shouldn't support Trump
>"But doesn't he remember slavery?!"
>ask how that's relevant and if she thinks Trump would reinstate slavery
>"I'm sure he would if it was socially acceptable!"
jfc
>>26652558
He opposes nation wide marriage equality. Your mom is right about that.
He also doesn't care about poor and minority people whatsoever. So your mom is right about that too.
>>26652558
You'd be better off taking this to a board that's overwhelmingly pro-Trump, like /pol/ or something.
your mom is right
>>26652558
Sounds like your mom is smarter than you, OP. probably ashamed to have raised such an edgy little shit-for-brains, too.
>>26652689
First, tat wasn't even her logic. I hope that you recognize that her logic was ridiculous.
Second, ending immigration would directly benefit blacks by making it easier for them to get jobs.
>>26652689
>>26652719
>>26652922
>>26652983
>People who dont want to make America great again.
Get the fuck out faggot normal scum.
>>26652558
My mom hates Trump because Trump supports the Keystone XL Pipline and because she feels he isn't "green" enough (even though she drives a huge SUV) . Dad is a beta loser that claims to like Kasich.
>>26652719
/r9k/ is an overwhelmingly pro-Trump board
any sane person is pro-Trump
wtf we need a pipeline for ? gas is cheap.
save that shit for when saudi is pumped dry
>>26652689
He's stated he would eliminate income taxes for people making below $50k. Those taxes take a more significant chunk of poor peoples money.
>at work, in break room
>they're talking about Trump on TV
>3 cuntish co-workers start making comments
>"I'm moving out of America if he becomes president"
>"Me too"
>"I can't believe he's so stupid"
>"Yeah he's a bigoted jerk"
>"He lies all the time too"
I just had to sit and stew in my rage, I know better than to try to express my political views to some dumb cunts who would instantly disregard my opinion since I'm not a normie.
Trumps the adult equivalent of a shit talking edge lord who feeds his ego by talking shit about others.
How the fuck can you seriously consider someone whos ad is literally stop isis, take oil, and build a fucking wall.
What do you think getting rid of 10% of californias workforce and segregating Muslims will actually do?
He reminds me of a fucking teenager telling ya mum jokes and swearing for shock value.
>>26652719
All of 4chan is pro-Trump, even /lgbt/. Fuck off back to r/cuckoldry, berniecuck.
>>26652558
So who has ordered their MAGA Tshirts?
Im going to wear mine jogging. I know a lot of middle aged shitlibs/Hillary supporters walk on the trail I run on. Can't wait to see their reactions.
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>>26653644
pic related
TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
>>26653644
I wear my black MAGA hat almost every waking moment.
I almost feel like it makes me a better person, I always try to be more polite when I'm wearing it. Don't want to be an asshole when I'm repping the Don.
>>26652719
Back to /r/SandersForPresident with you. Liberal cuckolds aren't welcome here. Anyone willing to vote a kike into office can't share this board with me.
>>26652558
Its the racism allegations that annoy me more than anything. I mean, yeah, I'm actually racist, but people in real life don't know that. Trump only wants to secure the borders, and that isn't racist. Every sovereign nation has the right to secure its borders. Jesus, even the fucking Vatican has walls around it, so the pope is a hypocrite for his comments.
>>26653571
How can you unironically literally keep on supporting a government that is only here to fuck you over?
Trump will save us. No more PC bullshit, Syrians get FUCKED stay out of our country until you stop blowing yourselves and everyone around you up for some magical sky fairy. You attack their economy and they have nothing left.
I'd rather have one of the most saavy business men in the world lead my country then some corporate puppet or socialist retard.
>>26652558
Pro trumpers are equally retarded. They are caught up in meme BS and sound bites as if Donald Trump will have no trouble at all getting anything past congress. He will also send Israel billions of dollars and continue bullshit wars.
>>26653571
>What do you think getting rid of 10% of californias workforce and segregating Muslims will actually do?
Make America great again. Mexicans have been driving down wages while bringing crime, drugs, and diseases. Muslims have been shooting stuff up and building unsightly mosques. California has rapidly become a 3rd World shit hole outside of the few nice communities because the worst kinds of people have been allowed to immigrate here..
>>26653152
>/r9k/
>sane
>>26653711
>Don't want to be an asshole when I'm repping the Don.
Same. It's like becoming a Mormon or something. Im sure Mormons get a kick out of seeing purple haired atheist chicks get butt frustrated though.
I don't really care for Trump's ideology, but his election as president would be a means to an end for the current political establishment. Plus he's just a funny dude and it'd be interesting to see what happens.
>>26653933
Supporting Trump for muh entertainment is stupid
>>26652689
i'm gaaaaaaay~~ and i couldn't give a shit less about marriage equality and i'm voting for trump
anything to remove low-IQ inbred mudpeople from the genepool
>>26652689
David Starkey said that marriage was some weird thing straight people did and Jack Donovan said he doesn't believe most gay men have what it takes to be faithful to one person over many years. They're both gay.
I was voting for Rand. Trump has too many critical +/- views.
+against TPP
+knows how to business
+politically doesn't give a shit, do what will work
+build wall
>2nd biggest authoritarian in republican race
>but has no respect for privacy
>like all business men, no allegiance >dirty economic mercenary, le greedy white man
>would kiss chinas feet and sell us into slavery if he could get a few trillion dollars
>>26654165
>>would kiss chinas feet and sell us into slavery if he could get a few trillion dollars
citation needed
>>26653571
>How the fuck can you seriously consider someone whos ad is literally stop isis, take oil, and build a fucking wall.
Please explain what is ridiculous about any of this.
1. The Arabs & Kurds are taking way too long to defeat IS, it'll be years at this rate.
2. IS makes millions from the oil trade.
3. Illegal immigrants have objectively negative effects on our society, and building a wall would stem their flow.
>What do you think getting rid of 10% of californias workforce and segregating Muslims will actually do?
1. How can you support illegal immigration when we have tens of millions of unemployed Americans?
2. Trump never said he wanted to segregate Muslims. He said he wanted to stop Muslim immigration. You know the Tsarnaev's were "refugees", right?
>>26653762
Okay, I agree with most of what you say but that one part is factually incorrect. It's not Syrian immigrants that's done all these rape crimes and started the conflict in Syria, it was outsiders like Saudi/Turkey. Most of the refugees (4 out of 5) aren't even from Syria, they're from nigger countries in Africa and shit like Afghanistan. Syria is the ONLY country in the Middle East that separates religion and the state. I wouldn't have any problem letting in SYRIAN refugees, considering most of them are educated and can speak English thus can integrate into society just fine.
This election is going to be so much fun. It will be 4chan (Trump) vs either leddit (Sanders) or tumblr (Shillary).
Anyways, I enjoy wearing my MAGA hat just for all the scowls and dirty looks I get from liberals. I always make sure to look extra smug when we make eye contact.
>>26653123
Is Kasick that guy running for Senate?
>>26653823
>Mexicans have been driving down wages
Republican retards:
Paying mexicans low amounts of money is bad because it drives down wages
Paying people a minimum wage is bad because companies can't afford to make profits.
You all are ok with shit wages when it comes to americans but not mexicans.
>>26654271
He's not planning on putting troops on the ground, he's simply going to stop funding terrorists like the FSA and organize airstrikes with Russia instead of playing on the fence. He doesn't plan on sending Americans to die in a stupid proxy war in Syria, he's more of an isolationist than the other hawkish candidates.
>>26653823
>Mexicans have been driving down wages while bringing crime, drugs, and diseases. Muslims have been shooting stuff up and building unsightly mosques.
this parroting bullshit
>>26654165
Trump hates the chinks and he is the only candidate who isn't on somebody else's payroll, not sure where you are getting the pro-China and no allegiance talking points
>>26654271
>1. How can you support illegal immigration when we have tens of millions of unemployed Americans?
How many Americans do you think would take a Mexican's job of cleaning up shit or picking strawberries for 2 dollars an hour?
>>26653876
>bernie supporter
>sane
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>>26654337
No, he's running for Prez.
He does gives out free hugs though. . .
>>26654377
There's more than 2 candidates dicko
>>26653823
>>26653762
"Trump will save us. No more PC bullshit, Syrians get FUCKED stay out of our country until you stop blowing yourselves and everyone around you up"
Are you serious, most people fleeing war are trying to get a better life, how do you expect them to live in a place which has fuck all infrastructure, a dictator that is knows for war crimes, and non state actors kill themselves and each other on a regular basis.
Saying they're all going to blow them selves up is like saying atheists are going to outlaw religion because Stalin was a dick about it.
And how dose destroying a countries infrastructure and economy reduce the odds of extremism and crime? Itl just create a bunch of starving desperate people.
"Mexicans have been driving down wages while bringing crime, drugs, and diseases. Muslims have been shooting stuff up and building unsightly mosques"
As opposed to those Christians who only put up beautiful, god loving, places of worship and never be influenced by superstitions.
Applying lump assumptions to entire groups like dose nothing but demonize poeple, its like saying white men are more likley to commit rape and murder so women need a special public space where men cant get where they have their own shops and such. Is it not too much of a leap to figure that this kind of assumption and actions would be a bit insulting?
>>26654366
>grow up in Southern California
>spics everywhere
>all the food service jobs, farm jobs, construction jobs, landscaping jobs are staffed by illegals
>move to Kansas
>the state isn't flooded with illegals
>whites and blacks do all the jobs above
"Mexicans do jobs Americans don't want to do" is a huge meme pushed by libfags and companies that need lots of unskilled/low skill labor
>>26654366
If they're desperate, they will.
Especially considering that they won't have to deal with an income tax.
>>26654403
>Saying they're all going to blow them selves up is like saying atheists are going to outlaw religion because Stalin was a dick about it.
That's exactly what atheists want.
>As opposed to those Christians who only put up beautiful, god loving, places of worship and never be influenced by superstitions.
M'LADY!
>>26654366
You sound like a typical bourgeois liberal. You think that because your upper middle-class friends won't do manual labor, nobody in America would.
>>26654349
I don't think a small amount of ground troops would be bad. I bet a lot of special forces types are itching to rek some terrorists.
>>26652689
>He also doesn't care about poor and minority people whatsoever.
>Singles making under 25,000 and couples making under 50,000 have 0 (zero) income tax
>>26654158
>these two gay guys don't care about gay marriage
>therefore it should be illegal
Jesus
>>26654343
Trump hasn't said much about the min wage, and less than 5% of workers in this country earn min wage anyway, so it is basically a non-issue.
Cheap labor flooding the country is an issue. There are many professions that don't provide a living wage anymore because they've been flooded by cheap labor from Latin America.
>>26654353
>restating actual facts is marginalized by calling it "parroting"
Just call me a racist and get it over with.
>>26654447
>>26654434
Notice how I mentioned a specific wage. Trump and the general republican platform wants you to get mad at Mexicans for taking all your jobs when businesses are hiring them at shit wages because they can get away with it. If Americans really wanted to compete they could also work under the table at those wages if they truly wanted those jobs and believed in a free market.
If all the Mexicans got deported, do you really think every position they held would open up? Maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of those would actually become "jobs for Americans" at minimum wage.
>>26654359
lol so you think because trump had bad blood with china before he wouldn't jump on a big money train? Businessmen have no side in politics, he demolished an old womans home for fucks sake.
>b-but she took the money
They forcibly whipped her out, broke her belongings then smacked her face with money saying it's all good. NO deal was ever negotiated. He'll throw you to the dogs too, quit licking corporate boots.
>>26654480
I never said that. I just think think it's wrong to assume that every gay person supports gay marriage. OP's mother and >>26652689 are probably the types that think minorities with conservative views are self-hating/confused.
>>26654500
>Cheap labor flooding the country is an issue. There are many professions that don't provide a living wage anymore because they've been flooded by cheap labor from Latin America.
Yes, but it's ridiculous to act as if getting rid of the cheap labor from illegals would create nearly as many jobs for Americans at wages americans would work at.
>>26654480
>laws should exist becuz i like them
Statist slave.
>>26654538
>If Americans really wanted to compete they could also work under the table at those wages if they truly wanted those jobs and believed in a free market.
We shouldn't have to compete with people who will work for $2/hour. Businesses can afford to pay Americans at a decent wage. The "free market" is no good if it gives us a third-world standard of living.
>If all the Mexicans got deported, do you really think every position they held would open up? Maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of those would actually become "jobs for Americans" at minimum wage.
So only a couple million jobs would open up?
>>26654623
>Businesses can afford to pay Americans at a decent wage. The "free market" is no good if it gives us a third-world standard of living
Not according to the republicans. Any time someone mentions increasing the minimum wage they whine about how small businesses will have to shut down.
Then they continue to whine about Mexicans driving down wages.
>>26654271
>>26654442
"That's exactly what atheists want."
Gee, thanks for informing me, i didn't know that was what i wanted. Not everyone to chill but segregation and demonzation.
>>26653424
No, that's for under 25k.
>>26654471
Yours right, but you can't analyze the impact of Trump by just this one fact. Yes, yaxes on the poor would be lower, but his overall plan would create a deficit of about 10 trillion fucking dollars
Poor people also rely on a myriad of social supports. To think theyll be better just because they have lower taxes is O completely misunderstand a more complex social system.
He doesn't care about the poor, he's just pandering to them and people's selfishness, but he WILL NOT help them in reality.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/analysis-of-trumps-tax-plan-shows-big-cuts-in-taxes-federal-revenue-1450807194
>>26654661
Raising the minimum wage is a naive idea. What we need to do is make wages rise naturally by stopping immigration & outsourcing, while lowering taxes so that businesses can afford to pay American wages.
>>26654689
>chill
xDDD just le chill /b/ro!!!!! stop beign right omg!!!!! fuckking bigot racist opressors!!!!
>>26654730
AND BERNIE WILL SAVE 18.8 TRILLION DOLLARS
>>26654757
Probably closer to 13.6 TRILLION.
http://taxfoundation.org/article/details-and-analysis-senator-bernie-sanders-s-tax-plan
>>26654661
Liberals do the exact same thing, just a different order
>people should be paid a living wage!
>support mass immigration, which crashes the value of labor
>>26654749
Never worked before, never will it's a pie in the sky naive idea you got there.
Look at history and facts companies always pay as little as they can no matter what.
Then you got countries with higher qualities of life with much higher minimum wages.
Works in Seattle too, since the increase you see improving economic systems.
>>26654833
Liberals don't support paying mexicans shit wages though. It's a false equivalency
>>26654849
I'd support raising the minimum wage if the conditions were correct. What I'm saying is that, in the current economic climate, raising the minimum wage would not help anybody.
>>26654859
Wages will remain low as long as we have a surplus of workers. It doesn't matter what they say, what matters are the actual effects of their policy of mass immigration.
>>26654730
>Poor people also rely on a myriad of social supports. To think theyll be better just because they have lower taxes is O completely misunderstand a more complex social system.
He's the only candidate running that currently supports Planned Parenthood (minus abortion) and the only candidate that has defended healthcare ("We can't leave people dying on the streets.) He is not beholden to any lobbyists or any businesses, his sole source of support come from the people and the people alone, meaning the people are his sole responsibility. That dichotomy is the sort of thing that would prevent Trump from making trade deals like TPP and NAFTA because he would know, just like Obama and Bill Clinton knew, that it would be harmful to the American people at large, yet it would benefit the sort of people who pour money into politicians campaign funds. He would tax hedge fund managers, and attempt to practice a form of protectionism that would ensure the success of domestic industry. It's because of agreements like NAFTA and like TPP that have turned factory towns and businesses into ghost towns, that created the rust belt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezvBs9SYxIY
This is a perfect example of what our current politicians in Washington did and do to American industry. They sign these trade agreements due to the Business owners (lobbyists and donors) wanting more money, not for the benefit of the people. I know it can be pretty hard to comprehend that living in your comfortable urban or suburban home with a source of income that doesn't rely on industry, but this is why people like Trump so much, even if you minus his bravado, his alpha personality, his monumental business acumen, his sheer charisma, his negotiating skills, etc.
tl;dr, fuck you.
>>26654403
>how do you expect them to live in a place which has fuck all infrastructure, a dictator that is knows for war crimes, and non state actors kill themselves and each other on a regular basis.
By staying in the refugee camps in Turkey.
>Muslims have been shooting stuff up
Absolutely true
>building unsightly mosques
I admit that was a bit hyperbolic
>As opposed to those Christians who only put up beautiful, god loving, places of worship and never be influenced by superstitions.
I have to admit Im appalled by megachurches, but let's face it - Islam and traditional American culture are not compatible.
>>26654538
>If all the Mexicans got deported, do you really think every position they held would open up? Maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of those would actually become "jobs for Americans" at minimum wage.
At least then the workers could unionize. The price of vegetables might go up slightly but mostly the owners would take a loss in profits to stay competitive.
>>26654538
>1/3 to 1/2 of those would actually become "jobs for Americans" at minimum wage.
Thats still a lot more than 0
UNSTUMPABLE
>>26654921
Disagree, there is abundant research the it would greatly help not only the poor, but our entire country. More money in the hands of the poor means more consumption, means me business growth, and less poverty so less need to keep Walmart workers on food stamps. >>26654976
Sounds like who you really should be voting for is the guy who actually intends to ensure everyone has healthcare, Bernie Sanders.
