What does /r9k/ think of the No Porn movement?
Part of me believes it would serve me better. And science has shown that it can cause you problems if you are truly addicted.
But the other part of me seriously wonders if this is not some shit started by feminists?
Think about it. With the pure shit women have turned into because of feminism...are they worth the hassle?
Add in the fact that porn is a click away. You finish your business and go on about your day. No money wasted on a girl who is going to eventually cuck you anyways.
I know you guys will be straight with me.
Whats the truth?
i didn't fap for a month straight and nothing good happened
sexuality has brought me nothing but grief and sadness entirely
I want to cut off my balls to remove my libido but I'm too scared
it's feminist it fucks up the girl. like they have to get themselfs tested for STDs and guys pretty much abusing the girl.
no porn videos for me for a while so far. don't know if i should fap or not soon
>>26625270
Look man, feminism is not monolithic, the different splinters have different views. The word would honestly be better off without porn. Think of how much money is wasted in the porn industry. People are introduced to porn from a young age, "it's harmless!" they say. If it's so harmless then why is it so hard to go without porn? It's a dangerous drug, and I think going noporn and/or nofap will do you wonders. 52 days and going here. It is kind of hard to browse 4chan when you're nofap, only red board I browse is this and I ignore porn trolls on blue boards. Ever since leaving porn my concentration has been getting better and I'm not lethargic.
>>26625351
>>26625377
I am firmly against the whole anti fap community. Nothing wrong with fapping.
Even if i stop porn, I will still fap.
I'm just trying to figure out if stopping porn really helps or not.
I've pretty much stopped watching porn because it gradually made me need more extreme stuff and develop fetishes I didn't really want.
I think I'm slowly becoming more vanilla again.
>>26625617
>>fap to loli and limewire pizza for all of high school
>>4 years later I now find myself developing a fetish for adult women
everything went better than expected
>>26625270
People need to get the fuck over it.
Positive to it but I have no willpower. Also impossible to avoid porn on 4chan
>>26625423
honestly the worse part of porn isn't even addiction. That can be recovered from.
the worst part is being demystified and spoiled to sex, when in reality you're not even supposed to know how it works until your first time.
Seeing it even once destroys your mental virginity, and forever ruins sex for you no matter how long you go without it. You will never marry at 16-18 to the quiet girl in your small village and discover sex on your own.
this goes deeper than just porn though, all of modern society spoils you to real life in unnatural ways.
Porn is my only solace. I realize it can be harmful but what would I do with out it? I don't have the capital necessary to obtain a girlfriend. So without porn... What would I do? That is what I ask myself so much. What the hell would I do?
I honestly believe the whole of the modern school system is built to destroy the family by delaying the proper age for bonding and reproduction. This is basically directly tied to feminism and women in the workforce - everyone has to spend their life focused on being a worker drone rather than starting a family
"teen pregnancy" is shamed and made financially unfeasable while the media promotes premarital sex at the same time. No wonder people get addicted to porn, their natural outlet has been taken away. Arranged marriage, or at least young marriage, used to be normal before compulsory education
>>26625372
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/11/what-its-like-to-be-chemically-castrated.html
>>26625866
So he still gets sexual thoughts but he's incapable of doing anything about it? Does not sound very fun.
>>26625816
Quit being retarded. Young marriage has never been good. Prime marrying age is 25-30 because at that point most people are less retarded than they use to be.
Arranged marriage is even more full retard. How is it that someone thought it was okay to make a life long decision for another person? its fundamentally retarded.
>>26626003
I'm not talking forced marriage like muslims. I'm talking about, your parents introduce you to a family friend, rather than having to compete in the dating game which wasn't even a thing in the past. You would be matched with someone of similar attractiveness and social status.
Porn really fucked up my sex life. You don't get anything out of it but a quick fix, and more often than not it comes with more baggage than it's worth. Just get a real gf to have sex with and stop jacking off to porn. It's degenerate
>>26626026
>similar attractiveness and social status.
Women don't want men of similar attractiveness whatsoever, it would still be forced marriage.
and yes, today people up to age 25 are stupid but this is only the case because of decades of public schools getting dumber and dumber and technology becoming more convenient. Just look at an 8th grade test from 1906 or so and you'll see what I mean. the "teenager" is a modern media creation.
>>26625684
>limewire pizza
You ever feel guilty knowing what kind of fuckery you got up to?
>>26626060
of course, It just makes me feel nauseous and disgusted around children now. I'm just glad it never became an exclusive dependency. I'm still attracted to women my age and especially older.
>>26626003
>Prime marrying age is 25-30
Except when it comes to childbirth, moron.
>How is it that someone thought it was okay to make a life long decision for another person?
Arranged and forced are not synanymous.
>>26626003
What's retarded about arranged marriages? They seem to function well. Pushing up the breeding age also damages your chances at fertility.
>>26626085
There will always be a gulf between you and your gf and wife.
>>26626121
I'm legitimately autistic so I don't think I'll ever have one. I'm thinking of joining a monastery or some other completely celibate calling
>>26626003
You won't win that argument here.
Arranged marriages have never worked, you're right.
But the only reason any men still want arranged marriage is because it takes away the hurdle of having to try to get a gf.
It's exactly the same mental barrier that porn is. It excuses them for being betas.
I cant get a gf mom! Find me a gf and bring me some tendies.
It really isn't a mystery why /r9k/ supports it.
>>26626160
the whole idea of competing for a gf didn't even exist in the past. Say what you want but it's true.
>>26626160
>Arranged marriages have never worked, you're right.
It has worked well for thousands of years you ignorant roastie.
>>26626160
>Arranged marriages have never worked, you're right.
Just like I asked him, in what way haven't they worked? Be specific, I have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. Last I checked the divorce rates were pretty low for arranged marriages so how are they a failure?
I'll post my experience:
I went like 2 months without porn.
I felt better about myself.
I fapped using my imagination, i couldn't orgasm at first but a few weeks in i could again, and the orgasms were more intense.
I got aroused by real woman again.
That said, i eventually went back to porn because even though i think no porn is good, i have no chance with a real woman, and wanting something you can't have feels like a torture.
So if you watch too much porn but you're good looking or not socially retarded i'd advise you to try it.
Again this was my personal experience, for you it might take longer for no porn to do the effect.
>>26626160
>losers are just looking for a scapegoat!
>porn is innocent!
I think alot of people who get into porn do so when they're young, and that just causes alot of problems that pretty much wouldn't happen otherwise.
From my perspective there is no reason not to encourage NoPorn, other than personal addiction
>>26626060
What is that? I don't want to get on the watchlist by looking it up.
>>26625728
this post is the post. the real tragedy of porn isn't even the addiction or the ED but the effect it has on one's view of sex. i honestly think the red pill community would not exist without porn--which is why they are all so against it; porn is what fucked up their minds and made them obsess over fucking hot girls
>>26626196
>so how are they a failure?
Any marriage in which the woman has not had 20+ prior sex-partners is a horrible oppression upon her and signifies a failure of society as a whole. Good thing we've moved past that and replaced it with marriages in which the men are raising children who are not even their's(see for example france where parental testing is illegal).
>guess what. you're parents are marrying you off to me. Lucky you.
>>26626221
for me I was definitely fucked up far before porn or the internet, though that certainly made it worse.
I'm actually diagnosed autistic since I was 6, and back then I had even worse social skills than I do now, like flailing retard level. By 13 the worst parts went away and I retreated into academics and excelled in school, though still autistic and completely incapable of normal empathy. Now I'm somehow a semi-functional cyborg with a degree in electrical engineering and a job lined up.
Quitting porn would definitely help me concentrate better and be motivated for work, but it won't magically fix the problems I had even before porn. and it wouldn't unmemorize things I remember from porn.
>>26626250
wew lad, good shit I had a good laugh.
Here's your (you).
>>26625270
>But the other part of me seriously wonders if this is not some shit started by feminists?
Not just feminists. Conservatives (rather, the fundamentalist variety) want to ban porn as well. A local church group actually bought a small piece of property next to our porn shop and erected a giant crucifix there to obstruct the shop's view.
Anyway, these types of movements are bullshit, and will never gain popular support. People who go into the porn industry are well aware of what they're doing, and that's their prerogative.
As for the feminist side of the issue, I'm actually curious where they stand on gay (male-on-male) porn, since that's all I can fap to. Most of those actors are gay themselves, and are genuinely passionate about what they're doing. Is viewing gay porn somehow going to encourage me to rape women? I would think feminists would be thrilled that I'm taking out all my male aggression on other, willing males.
>>26626224
limewire doesn't even exist anymore and any p2p network is highly monitored by feds. I wouldn't suggest it.
>>26626302
Dad's a huge cunt, pranked again! :^)
>>26625270
I've been using porn for years and I'm not addicted, I stop every now and again for weeks at a time and either use my imagination or erotica, the extremeness of my tastes is not escalating, I don't spend any great period of time on it, I'm not desensitized either, I still get aroused just by cuddling with a real woman... I really don't see what the issue is.
webcamming is literally the only job i can do because i hate leaving the house please dont stop supporting porn brobots :(. not a female or gay, just masterbating for survival
>>26626093
Women give birth to perfectly healthy children in their late 20's early 30's. Sure the chance for a defect may go up but the large dislike doesn't even happen until they are almost 40.
Again, quit being retarded and get your fucking facts straight. Sounds like you been reading webmd or some retard shit son.
>>26625351
This
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>>26626312
honestly, it's not just porn but the whole internet that shouldn't have ever existed.
of course I'm a hypocrite given that I spend so much time on the chans but honestly, the internet itself is worse than porn alone. I'd still be an autisti without the internet but I probably would have been more connected with nature and worked in forestry or animal/plant biology since that's what I was an autist about pre-internet.
>>26626348
>sight of booty in tight dress and shorts just gave me the urge get my dick on it
>felt great getting a real boner again
Why the fuck would you want to be more of a slave to women and your sexuality?
>>26626312
Although feminists claim porn is degrading to women, I think their disgust is for another reason.
Again, I think their reasoning is "If they can resort to fapping and video games, we will slowly lose any men that might be interested."
Because for the most part feminists (as well as MGTOW) are people that the opposite sex doesnt want to fuck. They're almost always ugly or fucked up in the head.
Porn is a release valve for guys that dont wanna wade through that shit.
So I think it genuinely scares women. Add in the fact at the rate trap porn is growing, and women feel like they are getting cucked by porn and traps at an alarming rate.
It's definitely a positive I think, although it depends on your personal experience.
In my case I fap all the fucking time, often twice a day, because porn is so easy to find. I'm a bit addicted, it's gross. I want to get away from it but honestly forcing yourself not to think about sex is a lot harder than just removing the temptation - though in order to do that I'd need to remove my computer so that's hard too.
>>26626389
*large spike
Not large dislike.
>>26626429
It's not like I bought them drinks. Just small talk and dancing.
>>26625351
NoFap and Yourbrainonporn are completely different and unrelated movements though.
NoFap community is taking autism to the next level. Guys from Yourbrainonporn (Main no-porn movement) are actually right on a lot of things though.
>>26626460
Yes but at the end of the day, it's a craving, why enhance it? When I'm hungry my first thought it "ugh, I'm hungry, this is annoying" not "I want this craving to be more extreme I want to feel REAL hunger"
>>26626443
>> Add in the fact at the rate trap porn is growing, and women feel like they are getting cucked by porn and traps at an alarming rate.
>>tfw imagining a future where women are begging men for love and attention and men just laugh and turn to their loving trap gfs
It'll be a glorious day when we can finally give up the vaginal jew.
>>26626497
Because I wanted it, at that moment.
Nofap is pants on head retarded, and noporn is fucking retarded.
Masturbation addiction is about as real as lip balm addiction. The movements were started to make a generation of men weak, low test, servile betas who live their life through the lens of gynocentricity.
If your incel it won't get you laid, and if you're getting laid it won't undo you getting laid. Unless you're 80 years old with a 2 day refractory period then go mild and cum as much as you want however you want. Nofap is an even more beta fetish than that cuckold paypig chastity sissy shit.
>>26625270
Pornography and the Internet are to men what birth control and Roe v. Wade are to women. Birth control liberated women. Roe v. Wade, in the United States, said that people have an absolute right over their bodies. In Canada these were decisions made by our Supreme Court. Pornography liberates men from the sexual power of women. The Internet makes pornography more readily available. Women, l don't like men to have the freedom to choose how they spend their personal time or how they use their bodies.
>>26626389
>Sure the chance for a defect may go up
>optimal
You really think you're in a position to be calling anyone retarded? The optimal time for marriage and childbirth would be when there's the least chance of birth defects, not when they're higher(which should be obvious to someone not mentally challenged).
>>26626549
>Masturbation addiction is about as real as lip balm addiction
That's true but as far as I remember we're talking about porn, not masturbation. Porn addiction is real actually.
>>26626592
Porn just facilitates masturbation addiction, which, without porn, is very uncommon.
i want to cut porn and fapping because it takes up a shitload of my time
>>26626497
Not him, but that craving is what makes you go and try, and if you're not autistic, you get it.
I can remember when I was younger (old fag here) and didnt have the internet, I would fap away to my imagination. It was awesome.
Sometimes I would have scrambled HBO or Cinemax which made it all the better when it actually came in.
>>26626523
You realize this will never happen right?
Normal functioning humans will still mate with each other and people who choose porn, vr, or traps will not reproduce.
>>26626640
>mfw 10 years old and the real sex episode with the chicks fucking the male real doll came on
>>26625423
>Think of how much money is wasted in the porn industry.
you can make this argument about just about anything that isn't food or shelter.
>>26626685
Exactly.
what will happen in this MGTOW dream world is that muslims will take over the world.
which would probably be a step up for anyone who still has a sense of honor.
>>26626628
I'd like to re-arrange that to "that craving is what makes you go and try if you're not autistic", I'm autistic and even if I could never orgasm again it still wouldn't be enough to overcome my social anxiety issues.
Anyway, is it not better to not want to try to begin with than to be forced into trying?
>>26625866
from the sound of it that guy is in a abusive relationship.
>>26626744
I'm
>>26626211
The craving is useful if you actually can get a woman.
Otherwise is just painful and depressing.
>>26625270
The only reasons to stop doing it is your sexual stamina and unrealistic image of sex and love
>>26626710
>muslims will take over the world.
the only form of control that polygamous religion has over its beta males is the promise of 72 virgins in heaven, what do you suppose happens when they can be given that in reality?
>>26626744
Autism and social anxiety are not the same thing.
Porn and internet addiction causes social anxiety over a long period of time even if you were a normie before.
Autism/aspergers has other problems as well like an obsession with saying everything you think, literally not understanding other people's facial/body expessions, sensitivity to lights and sounds, and motion tics
>>26626591
You are going full retard again bud. Here let me help you.
Optimal marriage age and optimal child birth age are two different things.
Women can have kids at like age 12. However, having kids at that age is retarded. It's better to have kids when you can actually raise them and have the resources to do so which typically people in the age range of 25-30 have. Do you think 12 year old can provide the same amount of resources as 25-30 year olds?
Again, quit going full retard. Also, again, the marginal increase in chance for a defect is outweighed by the greater amount of resources that would be provided by being a bit older.
>>26626829
In my case social anxiety is a direct result of the autism in two different ways, which is why I conflated the two.
