How in the fuck do people just accept a life of work?
I could never. I want both freedom of money and freedom of time to do as I wish. One without the other results in being either too busy working to enjoy much of life, or not having money to do much of anything in life.
I want both, I want it all. It is my birthright, it is my destiny. Give it to me.
I spent $32 on lottery tickets this week so far that have been drawn, and I won $1
how do people accept a life of having to eat and poop and pee to survive?
how do people accept a life of feeling incredibly unwarranted levels of pain whenever they stub their toe?
how do people accept a life of constantly fearing, or at least not knowing, death or anything outside of themselves?
how do people accept a life where your body is specifically geared to compel you to create more unacceptable life?
>>26566932
do you not get satisfaction from a job well done? if not, hedonism can go fuck itself
>>26566932
That's why I'm going to be homeless. Fuck working. I will never sell my soul to the man
>mfw A normie becomes upset at my post and writes out some long drivel about how enjoyable work is
>>26567148
isn't that just a form of hedonism tho
like if you're doing a good job only because it satisfies you
then you're totally a hedonist
you're still addicted to pleasure and the pleasure wrought by doing things right
>>26566932
I work 70 hrs a week, i want to die, i sent in an app to the armed forcrs but that can take a year to get merit listed
>>26566932
Because there are bills to pay. No one fucking likes work anon, so it's not being happy, its about the very real chance that mommy can't pay for you forever because one day she'll grow tired of wagecucking and you will die or start selling your body on the street for a hot meal. People like yourself take work and family for granted. You're over-romanticizing the starving artist angle.
>>26567416
>bluh bluh bluh muh fake responsibilities rhetoric and my condescension in the form of a generalized narrative
So basically people accept a life of work because the fear things will get worse if they don't? That's what your platitude-laden speech seems to reduce down to at the end.
>>26567558
*because THEY fear
they
with a y
not without a y
>>26567558
You're the last person on earth. You either hunt for food or starve and die. How is this hard to accept??
>>26567115
These are things everyone experiences equally.
Some people are lucky enough to be wealthy enough to not have to sell their time or labor for wages and salaries.
>>26567148
The things I actually want to do in life and things I want to learn and accomplish are not things you can make a living from, and cost money and time to pursue. Contempt for employment work doesn't mean I hate any kind of work altogether or am hedonist.
>>26567198
>70 hours a week
Bloody hell why would you ever agree to do this, and whats stopping you from telling your boss you only wiling to work half that? Ayyy must be the monaaay.
But why do you think military would be any less worse.
>>26567598
>So basically people accept a life of work because they fear things will get worse if they don't?
Or in this case
>So basically people accept a life of hunting because they fear things will get worse if they don't?
I'm not accepting your self-righteousness, your indirect manner of speaking, the extraneous emotional pressure that you intentionally apply when you post and your "stop accurately analyzing me and git in line" mentality
>>26567598
People, stop making this comparison between EMPLOYMENT work and other type of work such as being able to hunt/grow your own food, having to wipe your ass after you poo, wash your clothes, wash dishes, clean your room, etc.
>>26567598
Oh and btw you're doing it again
>condescension in the form of a generalized narrative
kek
I don't mind working 40+ hours a week, I kinda like it, depends.
But what I can't wrap my head around is doing ONE job until you die or retire.
I've been job hopping for years trying to find something i wouldn't mind staying at but nothing.
Fuck that.
>>26566932
then make like King Elliot and just exit this world.
no one would give him his birthright of hot white girls and piles of money so he said fuck it and left this plane of existence. he wanted no part in playing the game.
of course he whined like a bitch the whole time but that's just a millennial trait desu senpai
>>26567558
> So basically people accept a life of work because the fear things will get worse if they don't?
Yes, that is exactly what I mean. I think it's interesting that life has been so good to you that you consider homelessness to be a fake narrative. Having been evicted or hoping the car company doesn't repo your shit on the 13th like they promised means that I'm not trying to go back to that shit. I hated walking and I fucking hated couch surfing.
>>26566932
Find something you enjoy doing which pays well. Most people are too buttfuck retarded to even know what they want to do and get stuck in some shitty job they hate.
Don't be one of those people.
> if you do something you love you never work a day in your life
>>26567788
Better than working a shitty job, m8.
>>26566932
Just be a police officer
>Getting payed to ruin people's day
>>26567788
>Yes, that is exactly what I mean
Okay so why are you mad tho?
I helped you clarify your point, filtered out the antagonistic bullshit.
>Having been evicted or hoping the car company doesn't repo your shit on the 13th like they promised means that I'm not trying to go back to that shit. I hated walking and I fucking hated couch surfing.
Your life story is irrelevant.
Individualism has gone too far. Western societies don't care about their actual society, and never place it above their own self interest. Only ruin will come of this.
>work a job with flexible hours
>live in a really cheap area
>live modestly
>have time to do shit
you won't ever get rich this way, but at least you'll have your soul
>>26567185
No normie likes work faggot, they just do it for money so that they can buy shit, which they will use on their weekends.
>>26567858
I'm not mad. I think you thought you had something poignant to say by breaking down my post, but I actually meant everything I said for that exact reason. But yes, my story is relevant, since it's not a baseless fear; its not stupid just because you don't want to hear it, and it's not false because it didn't happen to you.
>>26567668
>>26567682
>>26567703
I think you may have have misinterpreted >>26567598's post, but the idea is that you have to do certain things to subsist by yourself, on whatever level that may be. If you truly only desire full freedom of your time what is stoppino you from living in the forest?
The fact of the matter is you probably want a certain level of convenience within your life, and you are personally responsible for obtaining whatever it is you want.
Is the ultimate life for a NEET that of the Wall-e ship population?
>>26567945
Exactly, fucko sits at home in a warm house with a computer and internet connection but he bitches about wanting to have things handed to him.
>>26567192
whats life without pleasure? you tried to sound smart but your a fucking toolshed
>>26567932
>I think you thought etc. etc. more rambling shit
No m8 the reason I'm nabbing at you is because you can't just answer the damn question, instead you have to go on some tirade about this or that, justify yourself and threaten those who don't conform to your lifestyle by proxy via the superimposition of your life story onto them as a potential future.
Sorry your life sucks or sucked but stick to objective answers.
>>26567920
Not if you are doing a job you think is important, brings you prestige, or you enjoy the work you'd prefer to work there then anywhere else
>>26567859
Capitalists invited immigrants for cheap labor and industrialization lured people from rural communities into dense population hubs centered around the biggest concentration of industry. The result is people who are packed in like sardines alongside a mishmash of strangers from vastly different backgrounds who have nothing in common with eachother, all competing tooth and nail in an oversaturated labor market. There can be no community anymore. Society is now a mass of hostile strangers looking to exploit if not outright harm you.
>>26568053
>whats life without pleasure?
lel that's exactly the way a hedonist would think
>>26567945
Those three posts aren't made by the same person
I'm only the top and bottom one
I'm not misinterpreting that anon's posts, it's just obvious that he's getting preemptively riled up because he hates NEETs or something and I'm calling him on it.
>>26567982
Still so mad...
>>26568069
> objective
Nigga what the fuck do you want? There is no objectivity, working a job you hate is based in fear and feelings.
>>26566932
>How in the fuck do people just accept a life of work
WHAT ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?
>>26568152
>So basically people accept a life of work because they fear things will get worse if they don't?
>Yes, that is exactly what I mean
This is what I wanted
>>26568134
no you toolshed.. hedonists want only pleasure while normies want pleasure but know it would be ridiculous to pursue constantly
>>26568134
get a job you fucking loser
Rid yourself of a physical form and become pure energy
>>26568199
If you're doing non-pleasurable things for the sake of acquiring pleasure in the future then you're still a hedonist. The continuing goal of your existence is still pleasure, even if you adopt a more delayed model of acquiring it because it suites your morals or whatever.
You still only want pleasure if you do things you hate solely for the sake of furthering the pleasure you'll experience in the future.
I'm not saying you're a hedonist or anything like that btw, or that all normal people operate this way. I'm just saying I still consider this specific behavior to be a form of hedonism.
>>26567812
>Find something you enjoy doing
>which pays well.
There is nothing, no thing. Doing what I love to do ideally would require spending money I don't have now and wouldn't provide any service to an employer or client they would pay me for.
I'm not intelligent enough to do anything highly technical/rigorous, hate sitting on my ass a lot, and want to spend even less time on the computer to quit my addiction to porn+masturbation and internet in general, can't get anything productive done sedentary, no car or license, no land, no nothing. And I'd only ever work part time if I did work again some day.
>>26567857
I'm too introverted autistic to do anything where it is my job to confront people, such as cop, salesperson, cashier.
>>26567859
I'm proud to be an American, where at least I'm free to buy lottery tickets and refuse to work for minimum wage at McDonalds because I see myself as having intrinsic value, and my time being worth at least $50/hour though doing exactly what I have no idea.
>>26567897
work part time and live with room mates is preferable to homelessness, but I'd still keep trying to win the lottery until I die.
>>26567945
>If you truly only desire full freedom of your time what is stoppino you from living in the forest?
The fact that all land is owned by private persons or government, not to mention I spent my whole life in the city and have no idea how to survive in the wild.
>you are personally responsible for obtaining whatever it is you want.
The difference I try to point out is that employment depends upon another person or company deciding to employ you, and paying you as little as they can get away with while the benefits of your labor mostly go to the top 10% of fat cats. Other types of work for personal maintenance, survival, self improvement or whatever are things that I do for their own benefit, for my own benefit, and I'm not being enslaved to such tasks any more than is necessary or enjoyable.
>>26568217
Make me mean normie
>>26568257
and i consider you to be retarded
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>>26568289
Well I consider your consideration to be retarded
another day
another dollar
tick tock
tick tock
>>26566932
Because they hope to eventually save enough money to be able to retire early and enjoy the rest of their life.
Also finding a job with good vacation time helps.
>>26568085
>Not if you are doing a job you think is important,
Unless you're doing something highly skilled, or are the rare case of a successful artist, everyone is easily replaceable by one of over 9000 applicants.
>brings you prestige
Having a self-sustaining internal sense of self worth/self esteem negates any ego boost based on your accomplishments, and insulates you against negative feelings due to your failures and shortcomings
>or you enjoy the work you'd prefer to work there then anywhere else
The place I'd want to work more than anywhere else is nowhere because I'd have won the lottery and don't need to wagecuck and careerslave for income. Then I could go volunteer in national parks and learn musical instruments, go Island hopping in the Pacific and Mediterranean, hike volcanoes, kayak lagoons, ATV the desert, etc. Fuck work, I wish I was Dan Bilzerian.
>>26568092
Society wants consumers, not workers to pay and mouths to feed.
>How in the fuck do people just accept a life of work?
Generally to support their families.
It would be sheer cruelty to afflict the majority with excessive leisure. People tend to lounge in their spare time, & they will usually be stricken with ennui before long. Work is typically a necessity to live a life of convenience within society. If this is not enough reason, it can be attempted to adopt a better work ethic by losing the notion that we work only to benefit ourselves, but could also work as altruists to convenience others, as even the most menial roles are necessary to be filled in order for a society to function properly. This could make our work seem more gratifying, & also in turn gives us an ego boost, making us feel that we matter to society. I detest the American work-ethic for mostly being so selfish & materialistic.
![productivity-and-real-wages[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/trOi5Qp.jpg "productivity-and-real-wages[1].jpg")
>>26568161
Keep trying to win the lottery while you live with parents or work part time and live a semi minimalist lifestyle.
Why can't people in mase demand things like a reduction in the work week, increased wages, and work-life balance? One reason obviously is that people end up getting into debt, having children, taking out loans to buy property, or living in expensive city apartments. When I was a wagecuck most people I worked with would be pissed if they got a 4 day week, and were eager to pick up overtime for that extra moolah at time and a half.
Super Lotto: $18 Million, Odds 1/44 Million
Powerball: $212 Million, Odds 1/292 Million
Megaball: $104 Million, Odds 1/259 Million
How many should I buy of each?
>How in the fuck do people just accept a life of work?
I don't know and it's fucking crazy how I seem to be the only person with a problem with it sometimes. It's fucking unsettling, like I'm in some kind of horror story where everyone has been replaced by aliens who all look and behave like humans except they all collectively accept wage slavery as a fact of life.
I work only out of necessity and am constantly either imagining a life where I didn't have to work at all or plotting ways to escape from wage slavery. Over the past 5 or so years I've probably sunk about $40,000 of mostly borrowed money (I don't make enough to fund my endeavors myself) into various failed inventions and business ventures. I'm massively in debt but still refuse to accept that slaving away until I am old and broken and dying is my only option. I play the lottery often too, despite my debt, in hopes that for once in my life luck is on my side and I get a ticket out of debt, out of wage slavery, and into a new and worthwhile life.
I refuse to accept a life of wageslavery. I'm working on a new business idea right now in the time that's not robbed of me by wage slavery, and even if that once again fails I will still never stop trying. I will live a free man. There is no other option.
gonna bump it
>>26568675
Don't do the lottery man you'll most likely make the debt even worse since you'll statistically always lose more than you get
>>26568547
It's doubtful that having $200 million would bring you much more happiness then $20 million, if you insist on playing the lottery you should stick to whatever has the best odds.
>>26566932
OP let's be lottery buddies, that way we will have more chanses to win.
You the power ball and I will win my country lottery
>>26566932
>How in the fuck do people just accept a life of work?
It is normal for humans to want to contribute to society.
>I want it all. It is my birthright
You're suffering from narcissism. It's hard to treat but easier when you're aware.
>I spent $32 on lottery tickets this week so far that have been drawn, and I won $1
At least play Blackjack, then you might win some money by counting cards.
>>26571134
>It is normal for humans to want to contribute to society
>doing things just because they're normal
W O W
You couldn't have outed yourself as a normalfag any more obviously
Geez why are you even up? Don't you have to go to work in a few hours?
