>tfw INTP
How's it holding up, fellow intp-bros?
>tfw INTPs are famous philosophers,scientists, and architects, but I can't motivate myself to do shit.
i feel like we are the most/almost the most prone to drug use, as a form of escapism because the real world doesnt satisfy us
>>26566179
>jam man
how did you decide on that name
>>26566208
Started in a music thread, wanted some supreme jams, and i just liked how it sounded.
>>26566206
Can confirm. Buying some weed tomorrow just to help remove myself.
the great thing about being an intp is that you are born saying fuck the world, i dont owe you shit. everyone who was an intp and famous scientist/whatever just did it because they wanted to. i'm not smart, i suck at math, i hate being told what to do, i'm not rich, i'm a failure in the eyes of nearly every one of my peers. but you know what? i don't seek their approval, so it's alright. i just do what i want to do. i'm employed right niow at some shit job but i'm staying at my parents house so everything i make i get to save. i don't have a clue what i want to do in life but i know right now that i love listening to music and making ridiculous collages and paintings in my room that entertain me, laughing to my own jokes doing stand up comedy in the shower, man fuck it life sucks and is full of pain, but i do what i do anyway because i'm not out to impress anyone, not even myself
>>26566251
top kek im getting 10 g's tomorrow
>tfw 18 and been 420 fagging it blazit erryday since my first and only girlfriend and i broke up when i was 15
>>26566206
real shit
>tfw it requires a ridiculous amount of effort to disengage from my fantasy world and focus on reality
>>26566280
This is honestly the most accurate description of what being an INTP is like.
>>26566206
I smoke weed pretty much everyday so this might be true
>>26566179
>INTPs are literally built to be mathematicians, philosophers, scientists, engineers, and architects
>I'm literally shit
AHHahahHAHAHAHahahHAHAHAHhahahHAHHAHhahhahahHAHHHAHAHHhahahahAA
My favorite part of being an emotionless, unmotivated, pile of semi-intellectual shit is that I can never work up any confidence to do anything social, and while I dream of fantastic fictional adventures, people are out in the real world having the real version of that while I'm stuck in this self-pitying bubble. I guess it kind of helps motivate me in school and stuff, that maybe I'll one day travel through the stars or discover sentient life or something if I work hard enough.
So what's a good job for a INTP or a good degree?
>tfw INTP who just turned 18
please tell me it gets better
>>26566206
I just play games to escape
>>26566414
wew ladno
>>26566414
much much worse
>>26566390
If you have actual motivation, the world is your oyster. If not, an hero is pretty much the only option baka desu senpai
>tfw alternate between INTP and INTJ
>tfw a slow-thinking NEET
>>26566179
>tfw plagued with constant self doubt
>>26566570
this desu. Constantly second guessing and doubting myself. It's become a real problem for me.
It's a different era. How can anyone be productive with porn at fingertips
>made a make-shift fluid-cooled reflux condenser for sumpin
>realize my dick fits
>spend rest of day jerking of with it instead of running distillation
>>26566414
Value the hope you still have
You may be at the point where you tell yourself that things in the future might get better and so you will drudge on through the pain.
Well, the painful years you are in now will be looked back fondly upon in the much more painful years to come.
Start developing your skills now so you can pursue your autistic fantasies, or else that's all they will be.
![myers-briggs-average-income[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LuSS13o.jpg "myers-briggs-average-income[1].jpg")
Just kill me intpfam
>>26566944
>tfw made $32,000 last year
Lmfao look at all you pathetic faggots.
Tfw when I used to be an INTP myself, until I changed to ENTP master-race. Now I'm on my way to becoming an us millionare
Philosophy basically was the closest thing to shitposting back in the pre-Internet days.
>>26566993
BanhgBang
>>26566179
>tfw can't make friends because they don't understand I need to be alone a lot
>tfw anyone who can put up with that shit I inevitably push away
>tfw I have to get drunk everyday to deal with how shitty life is
>tfw I think about suicide everyday but I am too much of a pussy to do it
please make it stop
>>26567049
How about you stop giving a fuck and do whatever u want pussy
>>26566251
>>26566301
>>26566324
>>26566445
>>26566206
You're all retarded, this is horoscope tier. Yes I am an into, yes I do drugs.
How many of you people are complete nihilists?
>>26566414
It don't, Unless you have some sort of top .01% intellect and a ton of motivation, there's nothing you can do, you're just stuck with the knowledge that this shitty place ain't getting better and you can't do anything to fix it.
What do as infj?
Always get it, with 90% accuracy in each characteristic.
I care almost equally about the happiness of others as I do of my own.
>tfw INFP
A-am I w-welcome in t-this thread?
>>26567406
You literally have your own thread going, fool.
>>26566516
>>26566832
I have OCHEM fractional distillation lab at 8:30 tomorrow. What'd you make it for? Drugs?
>thinking intp/entp/ebin bullshit is accurate
I bet you guys think zodiac signs are fucking real too LMAO
>>26566206
Another INTP checking in. Smoked some J's just yesterday. Being high is so much better than not being high.
"INTP" here. These tests are a meme and of course you're not going to be making a lot of money if you act like a depressed anti-social retard.
If you classify your entire personality by 4 letters you're really oversimplifying how diverse people's personalities are and the many nuances everyone has.
>>26566280
Pretty much sums it up anon.
>tfw INTP but not autistic enough to not feel my compelling shame and regret in life
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/give-and-take/201309/goodbye-mbti-the-fad-won-t-die
memefags BTFO
>>26567311
Wait. Are there dumb intps? Like, truly dumb? I get the whole impostor syndrome.
>Tfw comprehensive IQ is something like the 99.5th percentile
>Highest score for an individual test is 99.7th percentile for age in the state at the time
>tfw still think I'm retarded because I'm 1/100 and not 1/500
I know it's 'just a number' but I want to ascend.
>>26567309
I just have a wicked sense of humour
>>26567667
i'm an intp and i just glazed over your percentages and percentiles (i don't even know the difference) entire post. really, i could not care less about anything you just posted. IQ, intelligence, wanting to be smart, proving to others that i am smart, i don't give a fuck about any of that.
you sound like an intj.
>>26567309
Not a nihilist but an existentialist is more apt.
>>26566491
underrated post.
AND DEATH TO THE ROBOT
>>26566179
You are me, OP!
What are we going to do?
Decent, I know I'm ultimately fucked but I've adopted a philosophy similar to Camus' absurdism.
I just want to make a decent living as an art professor, make some cool paintings, die.
I've stopped giving a fuck and started doing what I enjoy.
I'm taking philosophy courses and studying Latin, painting and listening to music and learning instruments in my spare time.
I could not give less of a fuck about the future or where any of this will leave me in 5 or 10 years, and I've finally reached some level of happiness in my life.
For too long I've been a slave to obligation and it made me want to die.
I failed a test today. It didn't feel good but ultimately I don't fucking care. That is strength I didn't have even a few months ago.
>>26566280
What? Finally a bunch of guys like me! I even do that own bizarre jokes to entertain myself
>>26566179
I joined the Marine Corps. I figure I'll get something else to motivate me, since apparently my personal well-being isn't important enough.
>>26568101
this is my post-college no job plan.
I'm kinda bummed we're not in combat anymore though. I wanted to join the military to be a soldier who does soldier shit, not fuck around on a base playing grab ass.
>>26568030
YES, man. fuck i wish i could find you and people like you in real life who share this exact sentiment.
i'm alone right now thinking these thoughts and it would be awesome if i had a few friends who thought the same.
>>26566414
23 checking in
It has gotten worse each year hoping it levels off soon.
>>26568140
Yeah I couldn't find one either. The whole process is a fucking joke anyway. They don't want to hire you.
It's been fun so far. I get to talk to some very different people, yell a lot, and I'm actually in shape.
Even in a war you'll be on deployment maybe 25% of the time. Rest of the time grunts are busy cleaning their rooms, their guns, other people's rooms, rocks, dirt, whatever. Lot of down time even when things are happening.
>>26566414
32.
got several orders of magnitude worse.
>>26568142
I owe it entirely to the philosophy department at my school.
Last semester I was intellectually dead. I took a bunch of intro courses my junior year and got Cs in all because I never showed up. I hated school, I hated life.
Then I took an upper level philosophy course and it's like my brain started firing again. I started thinking again, I wanted to go to class. I rediscovered that love of learning and it completely turned my life around.
Maybe it's just me, maybe it's an INTP thing idk but I highly recommend checking out philosophy.
>>26567309
INTJ Nihilist here.
>>26566414
19 here.
It's gotten better since high school ended. The freedom is great. But judging by the other replies, it wont last long.
29 INTP
Half of the college a hell
The second half obsessed since I satarted to like my career Graphic Design
End up throwing out design from extreme strain
Tried different thing which motivated me but resulted in a failure bc my anxiety and bad luck
Got jagged from things when they are not changing or amusing
Now I don't know what to do with my life but I've recently learned an invaluable tip: TO FLOW
I used to be attached to a fixation of what my life/day should be - now I let got and let things happen
It's surprising how things amuse at times and relieving
what do robots think of ISTP's?
>>26568372
the working/corporate world will end it mighty quick. it's not only a rat race, its a gladiatorial deathmatch wherein the only ones who make it through alive are those whose personalities/dispositions are the polar opposite of "INTP" or robots in general.
It becomes a daily grind of getting walked all over (by lesser individuals) in order to merely survive. I've got nothing left beyond raw, animalistic survival mechanisms.
>>26566179
>tfw INTP- A
endmylife.webm
>>26566206
I've considered the use of drugs many times due to the loneliness caused by being only 3% of the world's population.
>tfw all your theories about everything will amount to nothing as you will be unable to get into a decent college and do anything worth mentioning.
It feels more like surviving than living now.
>>26568440
I think they're okay
>>26568570
Used to be pic related for a while but now I'm ISTP
>>26566206
I'm INTP but never got into drugs mostly due to indoctrinated fear from how I was raised.
I tried for a bit recently to get into more wild stuff, cause I have always been kinda curious, but honestly I just can't do it. Too much autism at this point to change.
>>26566414
Yes and no. My life is fairly shitty but I have made some improvements, a big part of what helped me to do that is accepting that I am the way I am and there's nothing wrong with that. Don't try and hold yourself up to normie standards you'll just feel sad and waste time thinking "why can't I be like Chad and fuck random bitches all the time and have lots of money/confidence?" That's not you that's why. Accept it and move on.
INFJ here
Who wants to go normie hunting?
>>26567374
THEY DON'T DESERVE OUR LOVE. I KNOW WE LIKE GIVING IT ANYWAY, BUT ISN'T PAIN THE MORE PLEASING EMOTION TO INDUCE?
>>26566414
Mine got really good when I was 19.
Then it fucking tanked and I've been nose diving since 21.
I had a semi-normal life, actually went on a few dates, had more than 6 friends, talked to girls, had a job.
Then I lost 2 friends. Then a friend died. Then I lost 4 friends. Then I lost another friend.
Now I have one friend left who lives in another city miles away.
It happened so fast I couldn't react.
>>26566280
good post anon, from one intp living at his parents place working a shit job but playing music in my room and making stuff to another
What do you guys say when you stop pretending to be like everyone else, and start acting like your normal INTP self?
I usually just kinda shrug and they stop wondering.
I have to put on a stupid act just to make friends. This is discouraging, but also comes with advantages. For instance, as an INTP you will recognize other INTP compatible people, the only problem is, I have only met a few, as in 4, and of these four, only one is a female. Also I ought to mention my age so that my estimates make sense, I am 20 Years old
Out of the thousands of people (80,000 to be precise) you will meet in your lifetime, you will meet around 15-16 people that are compatible with you. That is, if you live to the average lifespan (78). I took the average lifespan, divided it by my age, and multiplied by how many people I know who fit INTP compatibility.
Essentially, fuck our lives, hard
>>26568697
Are you literally me? Obligitory Originality
>>26568714
Only things I really like talking about are science/philosophy related stuff.
So if I'm being myself I'm either dumping information about shit or if I've met someone who's into the same stuff discussing a theory and making jokes.
If I'm not doing those things I'm probably being quiet.
>>26568714
I have tried both ways. I've tolerated incompatible people, and I've tried hanging out with people like me.
One left me stagnant and unfulfilled. The other left me at times uncomfortable but with, at the very least, an active social life.
One is comfy, the other is tiring as fuck.
Best to have a balance.
>>26568781
My problem is I have nobody who is willing to listen to me dump my theories.
Also
>science, philosophy
you interested in QM by any chance?
That field seriously needs more of us.
>>26568817
Yea its interesting.
You can get good discussions going on /sci/ sometimes. Most of that board are idiots don't think you have to have a PhD or something.
>>26568897
Thank you very much.
Also, I was wandering, since I'm in a thread with a rare part of the extremely smart part of the population, as a poor person, should I try to go into a trade school to get into a profession involvong QM/Physics, that will allow me to avoid student loans and such.
I feel that paying to go into a college where most people usually come out as failures despite their best efforts to achieve is dumb.
Just an idea I had, feel free to judge.
>>26568985
>>26568897
Also, I ought to mention this site here if you haven't heard of it already.
http://www.intpforum.com/
>>26566179
Why do persons say these letters? I see them many time now and I do not know what its meaning.
>>26568985
Yea idk desu I could have gotten into a university I took advanced classes in regular school and shit but I decided not to go for a variety of reasons, partly a lack of motivation but also partly cause I thought like you why go when plenty of people get degrees and it does them no good? Also I hate peoples attitude towards degrees like they're some magical piece of paper that makes you smart once you have it.
Also lots of people were telling me I "had" to go and in general if I feel I'm being pushed into something I do the opposite.
That said I kinda regret it. I finally got a shitty associates CS degree but honestly its a bitch finding decent work. A better degree may or may not have improved things but idk I feel like I should have tried harder.
>>26566179
>NTPs are famous philosophers,scientists, and architects
Very little of them, most are useless lifeless biogarbage.
>>26569179
as long as you draw breath, there's room for a change.
also, thanks for the input.
>>26566179
>ENTP
Im like you but I have friends.
>>26569208
What are you interested in about QM? You wanna work on quantum computers or something?
I was just reading about how they think entanglement is related to the arrow of time/rising entropy which is cool cause I had thought before how they might be. Rising entropy is just systems getting more entangled.
>>26569285
I love the idea of being able to receive info instantaneously accross the universe using particles smaller than atoms to make it possible, so yeah, I am interested in Q computing
I am also interested in subatomic particles and their effect on our 3 dimensional existence, and their effect on hight/lower dimensions (that is if they exist in the first place)
I also have a theory to combat the idea that gravity gets weaker as the number of dimensions grows. Would you be interested in hearing about it?
Used to think this shit wasn't horoscope tier, but I'm starting to realize that this shit is horoscope tier. You are all faggots with self-fulfilling prophecies.
>tfw ENFP
>>26569366
Sure why not if you wanna post it.
Using entangled particles for instant communication is easier said than done though, don't mean to burst your bubble but it may not be possible.
There may well be some FTL component to entanglement but there's still some issues with using them to talk, the actual particles don't travel FTL so if you wanna talk to someone in another galaxy you have to wait for them to reach them, after they get there the entangled state collapses after 1 measurement so no back and forth, biggest problem which particle has spin up and which has down seems to be random we know they'll be opposite but that's all we can't seem to control which one will be which. So it would be like trying to send a binary message and you don't know if your sending them a 1 or a 0 til its already done.
>>26569285
>>26569366
>I thought before how they might be.
I'm noticing a pattern here, which is ironic concerning the circumstances.
Remember the higgs particle and it's mass of between 125 and 127 GeV/c2? And those at the LHC saying it's mass would determine if the universe had order or not?
What if all natural patterns are the result of the fact the universe has an order. For instance, 3.14, or pi. It is found almost everywhere, and happens to be an irrational number that's got a limitless string of digits after it's decimal that contains every digit combination in the universe, now try reading that string like a strand of DNA. Are you connecting my dots? What if things like 3.14 are decipherable and can be used to explain natural phenomenon?
Also, excuse the shit tons of errors I made.
Constructive criticism would be nice.
>>26569507
You mean like some kind of pre scripted order not something that has just emerged over time?
The entanglement/time/entropy relationship thing is basically the idea that time passing stems from quantum systems becoming increasingly correlated. So shits blending together basically. Things become more and more the same, more and more like one big system instead of a bunch of small ones.
We're nowhere near total equilibrium though.
>>26569506
Well, imagine the 2nd dimension, it's like ours, without depth. It lacks the dimension, or whatever particle is responsible for depth. Since I believe each dimension gains or loses a type of particle according to what dimesnion it is. For instance, if 3d was to downgrade, it would be 2d. So, since the 2D doesn't contain whatever causes depth, the 2D dimension loses the mass of the object causing the force causing the added dimension we experience. So it would seem the 2nd Dimension would contain less objects with mass, and therefore contain less dense objects, and therefore less gravity, but the nthink of the structure of the 2nd dimension, we think of it as flat, which means the matter making up the objects in this universe very compact, causing the gravitational force to skyrocket.
Think of a scale, and trying to balance the amount of matter, and the form of the objects in this universe.
Sorry this probably makes no sense as these ideas are kinda rushing themselves into my head all at once.
>>26569604
Not necessarily a script, but a result of the fact that the universe has order, and if something has order, you can create an equation to explain that order. 3.14 is a part of the equation.
Oh also, I agree on the equilibrium part.
I recommend watching the Code on netflix.
It's a three part documentary exploring the patterns of nature.
>>26569665
The idea that theres something in our universe that causes there to be 3 dimensions instead of 1 or 2 or 4 is pretty interesting. I've never thought about that before.
Something we could measure like a particle being responsible for that would be pretty damn neat.
>>26569716
Sounds interesting I'll watch it.
>>26569730
The problem with the idea is that the particles making up the dimensions are travelling approximately fucktons faster than the speed of light and are probably undetectable, unless we can worm our way into the 1st dimension somehow, which is mindbogglingly fucking hard to imagine doing.
>>26569759
>>26569730
do yourselves a favour and do the following as well:
Get AbiWord, copy threads like these, and save moments like these for future reference .
>>26569730
Ironically relating to my theory about patterns of the universe, have you noticed how the smallest things are almost exactly the same as some of the biggest things around us? Like, taking a step back, and seeing the same things, just getting smaller or bigger?
When I noticed this was when I discovered my love for theoretical physics
yup, right here.
life is ok I guess.
>>26567723
I skew infp or intj depending on the weather. Intp is the one that's most consistent and the one that fits me most, most of the time. Online, I probably seem more INTJ because I communicate better with written words than I do verbally.
>>26566993
>>26569257
pls post more bait.
true robot representing here
>>26570145
>>26568570
You're like me except more in each
Anyone else here like math. Browsing new questions on stackexchange and looking for ones I can answer is the best thing on the internet. Gonna cum (haven't yet today) then I'm gonna patch the gaping hole in my knowledge known as Galois theory.
Who here /opiates/
Perfect for intp
I can motivate my self to do things. But all of my ambitions are so huge. It's a really big pain in the ass. I get things done but I feel as useless as lazy people like you because I have nothing to show for it. More or less.
>>26566179
>INTJ
I'm doing okay.
Quit a shitty job, living off savings, studying for the June lsat, hanging out with my gf every day in the library, have like five different interviews/pre-interview tests lined up for everything from part time customer service gigs to a work from home deal, police officer gig (that would be the best paying at 69k starting no joke but I don't think I'd quite enjoy it), teaching abroad in Korea (ideal but I'd have to leave my gf which would suck), claims adjustor at State Farm (35k not bad for being 21/fresh out of college plus I'm licensed in a bunch of different insurance lines and have prior experience with the company so it'd be an easy shoe in-still feel like I'd absolutely hate it though).
Life is pretty good. I could continue this idle forever if I didn't have to worry about money.
>>26566179
>defining yourself by a combination of letters
>being a true INTP
cheats and liars pls go
Anyone here stumble a lot into shit whenever walking to somewhere?
One time I got so distracted I literally crashed head first into a pole.
>>26570459
It's useful for finding like minded people. That's about it.
>>26566206
tfw think I might be addicted to porn
>>26570437
Last night your mom adjusted my claim to her ass
>>26570555
My mom's been dead for almost eleven years now toplel have fun fucking a heap of dirt ya poofter
>my waifu is INTP
noice
>all these supposed INTP's saying I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHERE I AM IN FIVE YEARS IMMA DO ME
That doesn't seem very rational. It's always good to have a backup plan so you don't end up on the streets because "doing you" cost you your house.
>>26571987
INTP's are much more interested in an INTERNAL rationality. Underying truths. So a house doesnt necessarily outweigh complete independence in the eyes of an INTP
>>26571529
Bill Gates does make for a nice waifu :^)
>>26572019
There's such a thing as a balance between creative freedom and financial stability.
>>26572066
A balance between those two things is meaningless if you value you one more than the other.
>>26572094
You won't be able to do all those things you want to do if you're living on the streets with no money.
>>26572094
Unless what you want to do is live on the streets with no money.
>>26566206
Alcoholic intp here, just downed half a bottle of Jim Beam and can confirm
>>26566414
20 here. Try working to improve yourself. Write a list of your values and adhere to them. Pick up a hobby like an instrument or art, I chose to take up stencil making and learned to make good graffiti. Go to the gym and work out. Bring a friend. The hardest part is making friends. Try to have as many friends as you can.
>>26570459
It doesn't define you, you define it. I'm not INTP because the test says so, the test says so because I am.
>>26569921
There is an old theory that the order in the large things in the universe, planets and shit, causes the order in the small things and big things and small things should be very similar.
Its largely been dismissed now though because we see small things are very different and that's why QM exists. Electrons do not orbit a nucleus in the same way planets orbit a star or at least they certainly don't seem to.
intp who smokes weed every day and can hardly be bothered to interact with anyone anymore since the pointless of engaging most other people bores me to death. i just really don't give a shit about anything anymore. it's sort of freeing in a way.
