This is all you need to know about women
>I don't want you to carry around emotional baggage. It's okay to have a troubled past, but I want you to let me know that you're a grown man who can overcome any problem and come out as a more mature and wise man.
>I want you to show me how to be the better person. If I act childish at times, know that this is in my nature and that you should NOT ever, under any circumstance come down to my level. Show me what a true civilized man acts like.
>If I disrespect you with my tone of voice and facial expressions punish me for it by not speaking to me. If you let me get away with this sort of behavior, my respect for you will be lost.
>If another man (co-worker, classmate) disrespects me do not come to my defense right away. Ask me how do I behave around that man and point out the flaws in me that made him think that I was not worthy of respect.
>This is the most important of all things: if there's any trouble, take the lead. Tell me how can we fix this. This lets me know that you're good enough to guide me under any circumstances, that I can trust your guidance because you do not let yourself become blinded by feelings. You're an assertive man and I need that in my life.
That's how they think and they're not even aware that they do, they're wired that way. This is all they will never tell you about.
Thank you anon, thank you for telling me the secret of the woman's psyche.
>>26380831
So basically
>I'm an adult baby who needs to constantly be looked after.
No thanks, I'll stick with being celibate.
>>26380930
Yes, women may not be as interesting and smart as your fedora neckbeard friend but the warmth of a woman is something that men need, you can't fight that. The smartest of men do not go for the smartest of women because she is not there to compete at your level but to serve you and admire you.
>>26381044
Or you can just wait until your sex drive dies in your mid-20s from lack of use. That's what I did.
>>26381180
I'm not talking about sex, why so degenerate? I'm talking about the love of a woman.
Give me one reason to believe any of this.
>>26381280
>I'm a woman
>I talk to a lot of women
>I read what a lot of women think
These are my conclusions.
Atleast I truly see
>>26380831
I would be okay with all of this IF AND ONLY IF she is willing to be a traditional woman. That means that she will swear her loyalty to me alone and that she will bear my children and dedicate her life to raising them.
I'm not going to be a dominant male unless she's a completely subservient female
>>26381259
Women don't love in the same way men do. It can hardly be called love, really.
>>26381444
Checked.
Fair enough. I believe most females have the potential to submit if they can be redpilled. With all of the feminist propaganda, women have been repressing their femininity and have grown more and more depressed because this is not who they truly are, they are chasing a career while their bodies are asking for offspring.
>>26380831
experienced that, can confirm
and that's why i don't have/want a GF
fuck that shit
it's a trap and i know it
can someone screencap it and post here so I can save it?
>>26380831
>mfw I know the chick who posted this is probably a 3/10.
we need attractive woman's thoughts OP. Not yours. Thanks for the useless info though
You forgot the most important OP:
>Being unavailable is the most attractive thing ever
>>26381508
Of course they don't love in the same way men do, but they do love; their love comes from looking up to someone and depending on that person, much like a child.
>>26381529
here you go
original as fugg
>>26381180
This is a thing?
Fuck, please tell me this isn't a thing or I'm going to need a emergency hooker
>>26381564
thank you motherfucker
>>26381574
fapping works you stupid fuck
>>26380831
Hmmm... Intersting. Post a Selfie OP, so I can confirm this
This is the best thread I've seen in a long while
Well done, OP
>>26381532
Attractive or not it doesn't matter. Notice the pretty girl in the picture? She's wired the same way that I am.
>>26381555
Checked.
You're right, I forgot to mention that.
I want to be like frank underwood though and be part of a team
>>26380831
>basically, treat me like a little girl
No thanks. I'd rather adopt an actual daughter than put up with any of this shit from a grown woman.
>>26380831
>If I act childish at times, know that this is in my nature
it's in everybodys bitch dident your parents teach you manners
>>26381444
This.
Also, our current laws have to change.
Because, even if she is completely subservient, she can only be that on an individual level.
But she can still divorce rape your or let you throw in prison by accusing you of having "raped" her.
So we also need to change the laws.
No rape in marriage, no women's suffrage etc.
>>26381733
>even if she is completely subservient, she can only be that on an individual level
Or let me rephrase:
With our current laws, she can pretend to be subservient or "play" a subservient "role" - but she isn't really subservient. If she doesn't like you? Bad luck, divorce rape!
Only with laws and shit you get a woman that really IS depedentn on you and subservient.
>>26381693
>it's in everybodys bitch dident your parents teach you manners
I don't mean screaming, whining or things that are usually a sign of bad education. I mean that women tend to think in a childish ways or drown in a glass of water, whichever you prefer.
>>26381561
That doesn't appeal to me.
>>26380831
thank god i don't have any desire to pursue females. i guess thats the upside to being an aspie
>>26381653
It actually does matter.... Thanks for nothing OP
>I don't want you to carry around emotional baggage. It's okay to have a troubled past, but I want you to let me know that you're a grown man who can overcome any problem and come out as a more mature and wise man.
So If I murders Someone It's ok, we can work it out?
>I want you to show me how to be the better person. If I act childish at times, know that this is in my nature and that you should NOT ever, under any circumstance come down to my level. Show me what a true civilized man acts like.
You act childish Than why the fuck Would I like you? What do you think I'm a Pedo? What exactly do you mean by childish? Truly civilized wtf? So you want a robot? No body interesting is civilized.
>If I disrespect you with my tone of voice and facial expressions punish me for it by not speaking to me. If you let me get away with this sort of behavior, my respect for you will be lost.
Oh So if I'm cheated on or cussed out in public don't act out? ok.... Why would I even want to be with a person so crude?
>If another man (co-worker, classmate) disrespects me do not come to my defense right away. Ask me how do I behave around that man and point out the flaws in me that made him think that I was not worthy of respect.
I'm just suppose to sit there and let you get treated poorly? Doesn't seem very Manly nor Civilized of me.
>This is the most important of all things: if there's any trouble, take the lead. Tell me how can we fix this. This lets me know that you're good enough to guide me under any circumstances, that I can trust your guidance because you do not let yourself become blinded by feelings. You're an assertive man and I need that in my life.
Bitch you don't need a man. You just need male abstractions that you're not capable of achieving because you are dumb. Why would I want a flimsy Childish girl without a backbone, who gets mad at me for trying to help her?
Like I said that's Ugly Girl Logic
>>26381650
Thank you if you're not being sarcastic, I don't know how to differentiate that kind of thing.
>>26381754
real dominance comes from real power.
As long as men don't have real power, they won't be realyl dominant. And as long as women have equal rights, they won't be really subservient but only get wet when thinking about 50 shades of Chad.
>>26381821
>Trying to reason with women
>>26381561
what the fuck
relationships are suppose to be a 50/50 thing, not a 90/10 thing.
>>26381821
>If you've had a traumatizing experience, take it as a chance to learn not as an excuse to be a whiny man child
>If I have a problem in my life and I don't know how to get out of it because I focus in unimportant things, much like a child, show me how things work.
>if my behavior is bad don't let me get away with it
>sometimes I get treated poorly because I looked for it, don't make me think I'm a little princess who can do whatever she wants and still have her Prince Charming come at her defense
Do you understand now or do you want me to dumb it down even more?
>>26381561
>Ugly Girl Logic. You're not foolin anyone. You're just as clueless as some of these motherfuckers.
>>26381929
I don't know why you have the idea that I ever implied that men have to put more effort into the relationship than women.
>>26381561
>>26381561
>>26381929
What's funny is that she's not even lying. If given the chance, without any sort of social condemnation from other girls, if girls could wholeheartedly depend on a guy on everything for everything only for the price of their pussy, they fucking would. Not just glossed up Instagram girls, this applies to average girls. They want you to take care of them while they pursue their retarded degrees in fashion and art and shit.
I am not thinking I act this way. But I only have one boyfriend so maybe I do not know?
>>26382013
Okay, just like you're a nigger and are not fooling anyone either. Go back to Twitter.
>>26381980
Holy fuck, you are retarded.
Are you that prostitute who visits every now and then?
>>26382064
>tries to change everything I say to make me look dumb
>talks like a nigger
>calls me retarded
Top kek
>>26380831
Are you a woman? If not I don't care.
Getting inside the head of a woman isn't going to fix my shit or anything like that, it's just another fruitless waste of time.
>>26381980
Ahh I see now, It's in fact you who don't know anything about Men. The Irony. That's Probably why you're on 4chan right now. Cuz you're "trying" to help autistic obese edgelords better themselves just so you can feel better about yourself
>>26382108
When did I say I knew anything about men? I know about women, that I can tell you, that's why this is an insight to what women think.
>>26381980
I personally know alot of girls who don't go through any of this bullshit at all... I don't know what's your problem OP
>>26382090
Yes I'm a woman. It can help if you try to apply it into your daily life in how to treat women
>>26382133
But you're giving advice to men about what men should do to improve themselves. When this shit doesn't even apply to most men with any shed of Integrity
>>26382085
I have no idea what you are talking about but I think you should seek help.
>>26382134
The girls you're talking about don't know anything about themselves. Women are not usually very good at introspection.
>>26382156
What they do is non of my business, I'm giving out information and they can figure out what they can do with it.
>>26382168
I live in a house of 3 my Mother, Me, and my Sister. And yah women are Petty, But I honestly feel as if you're on an intirely different scale of pathetic OP. You don't even sound like a girl. You sound like a nigger trying to give other niggers advice
>>26380831
Please disregard this thread.
Taking advice from a women on how to get women is usually never a good idea.
Ever wonder why sons of single mothers are so fucked up?
>>26382085
Not the guy you're replying too, but you sound like a racist cunt. I won't take advice from you.
>>26382214
This. Her Advice is common decency. KEK
>>26382208
Why am I so pathetic? Because I know what a lot of women subconsciously desire?
>hurr hurr le woman is trying to tell me something, better tell her she's dumb
>>26382242
Honestly, it sounds like youre damaged goods. Who hurt you?
>>26382223
I'm not a racist. Maybe I should've said something like "someone ignorant" but I didn't realize that someone who lurks 4chan would be so sensitive.
>>26382242
You're pathetic cuz your Sacred advice is rubbish. You're labeling all females down to a Steriotype. Yes all women want to be taken care, of but they're not all spineless, childish, sensitive, dumb good for nothings like you describe in your advice
>>26382277
You're still not answering my question about why am I so pathetic and now all of the sudden I sound like used goods. You're making absolutely no sense at all. I've been hurt by a lot of people, like most people but I'm not gonna whine about it because I've turned out fine.
>>26382313
All the actually ATTRACTIVE women are independant af.
>>26382313
Oh okay I get it disregard >>26382320
I'm pathetic because you don't know how to take things with a grain of salt.
>>26382329
being a camwhore or in porn you mean
>>26382291
A person that points out facts is intelligent, not sensitive.
>>26382320
>I've turned out fine.
>Forget he's on /r9k/ roleplaying as a roastie who wants to control the way her partner thinks
>>26382329
I'm pretty attractive but as I said before, it doesn't matter. I don't need to proof anything to someone who doesn't even know how to reason.
>>26382360
This is what I've been thinking the entire time, kek
Most of these things are taught as how to train a dog lol.
Take that as you wish.
>giving 2 shits about women
cancer
>>26382363
Highly UNlikely. You're on r9k loser lol.
>I'm pretty attractive
Either you are attractive female or arent theres no in between, zozzle
>>26382360
>>26382371
Why am I making it so hard for you to believe I'm a woman? Why do I not "sound" like a girl?
This is stupid
Why would you expect any of that from a bf
They have feelings too
>>26380831
>if there's any trouble, take the lead. Tell me how can we fix this. This lets me know that you're good enough to guide me under any circumstances, that I can trust your guidance because you do not let yourself become blinded by feelings. You're an assertive man and I need that in my life.
This part seriosuly makes it seems like you are implying that girls not only do not have any critical thinking ability when push comes to shove, but you also do not mind being dead weight.
Are you serious about this shit, OP?
Why can't YOU be assertive? Why do men have to think for you? Why can't you guide your life?
>>26382402
Cuz ur unnatractive and it projects into the context of the text. Even if u were cute, with that mentality you'll never get a good honest guy. You'll just get chads who'l fuck you in the ass then kick you to the curve. That's why you're on /r9k/ right now
>>26382151
1. I don't meet women in my daily life.
2. No timestamp and you're just another tranny or attention seeker.
3. None of the advice matters if she's trying to chase after new cocks to give herself new relationship highs.
>>26382402
You're just dumb OP. you lack rational thinking according to your own text. You're on here giving us ugly neckbeards advice when you're probably not even the type of girl we're looking for. We want girls with actual values
>>26380831
this sounds entirely unappealing
>>26382426
Don't project your low testosterone stuff, masculine men love be needed. If you want a high testosterone girlfriend you do you buddy.
Sounds awful, OP.
>>26382151
what about how to mistreat?
>>26382402
Because you didn't fucking timestamp, plenty of people pretend to be women on the internet for attention.
There's an 8ch board dedicated to it.
>>26382484
Why would any of this imply that a girl has no values? If anything, a woman who thinks this way is more likely to remain faithful to her man. You just don't want to know the truth because you want to continue to be manchilds.
>>26382491
>low testosterone?
Are you fucking kidding me? You're dumb OP. just read all the comments from other honest guys in here. You're advice is shallow and subjective.
>high testosterone gf
Anything would be better than a spineless stupid bitch like you. My dog has more platonic value than you
>>26382424
What's so wrong about a woman not being assertive? You wanna get bossed around by your bitchy wife bro?
>>26382424
You wouldn't be asking these questions if you knew anything about why traditional is the way to go, you're most likely a liberal. The roles for men and women described in the bible are the perfect roles, it's what works because it's how we have evolved.
>>26382538
THIS THIS THIS someone who gets it!!!
>>26382554
Catholic bolivian chick?
>>26382519
No you're just an ugly delusional bitch, who is a Tranny. That's why you wont post pic, cuz you're insecure and stupid. I'm just shitposting for shit and giggles, but You're actually getting heated over your own insecurities LOL
In other words women are hysterical and childish and have to be deprived of attention if they misbehave, and have to be lead around and men have to make all the decisions for them and baby them when problems come around
fuck that shit lel
>>26382531
It may be dumb but it's just because we are dumb! Don't get mad at me for saying the truth. My op is obviously exaggerated, it depends on how femenine the woman you are dealing with is.
Okay I'll come out as a quasi chad. I'm pretty autistic but have all the makings of one.
In my experience women should be led to believe your in control. It might be my autism but you need to none emotionally cold and blunt. Call them on their bs don't take any of it. It's like you can only have 2 sides. The strong authoritarian and the warm loving man. Use the loving side sparingly for it will mean more.
Essentially be like an old fashioned man. Emotionally reserved/cold 95% of the time and loving the other 5%.
>>26382538
No, but I don't want some drone who has to agree absolutely everything I say. If she don't like this or agree that, then speak on and tell me why. She's a human with feelings and opinions too. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
>>26382554
Ohhhh. So this is /pol/ bait
Got cha. Have fun.
>>26382588
I won't post a picture because I'm not an attention seeking whore. I'd go on soc if I wanted beta orbiters to complement me on my looks
>>26382612
>>26382519
>My OP
>Samefagging this Hard
LOL
>mfw clueless males are made even more clueless by seduction memes such as OP's
>natural selection in progress
You are doing God's work, OP.
>>26382638
You can't understand anything, can you? It doesn't mean she can't have an opinion, but women get their thoughts too easily affected by their emotions that's why you should be assertive and make the final decision.
>>26380831
>Women are beginning to beg for male leadership.
She's smart DESU. She realized being second in command isn't as bad as she was told.
Too bad she doesnt realize she gets to pick and choose.
If a person longs for leadership and direction, they get the quirks that come along with it. There's no bargaining.
As long as she realizes that, I'd be willing to date again. Even marry.
If a woman could stick by rules like this.
I'm curious to see what the next few years will bring. Hopefully an attitude shift in some of the younger generation women underneath mine. If this is whats coming, I'll reconsider.
>>26382638
>If she don't like this or agree that, then speak on and tell me why
There's nothing in the OP that precludes that from happening, but it leaves the man as the ultimate authority figure. She doesn't have a final say in what happens.
>What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Nothing? If not being assertive precludes you from being a person with feelings and opinions than this mostly BETA board is doomed.
>>26382662
LOL, I'm shitposting for the Lulz
>>26382644
Are you dumb? I'm not samefagging. Both of those posts were me, not trying to hide it.
>>26382669
- Too bad she doesn't realize she DOESN'T get to pick and choose.
my bad boys
>>26382681
>Both of those Posts were me
>My OP
Kek
>>26382702
I meant my original post
>>26381561
What the hell is the point? A male love is way more stronger. Why can't women function like adults? Yet, women wonder why they're treated like prizes to be eon and kept
>>26382720
>>26382718
This is why I say women are useless
>>26382720
I'll never understand other dudes who want women to be men or more like men. It's like those shitty mommy gf threads.
>>26382735
Because you can't into reading comprehension?
i recently lost pic related because i did not follow this guidance OP. i feel so fucking beta. my heart hurts so fucking much.
>>26382720
If we were both the same what would be the point? Just be gay anon
This sounds like training a puppy or something, except a puppy will eventually grow up.
>>26382745
Whelp I'm done shitposting tonight. Thanks for the lulz OP
>>26382754
>nose ring
You dodged a bullet, friend. Congratulations
>>26382754
Oh shit son you retard, you had fucking made it.
>>26382779
You're welcome anon, glad you had fun.
there is a difference between being the submissive one in the relationship and being a child
>>26382740
>I'll never understand other dudes who want women to be men or more like men.
This.
The weirdest thing is when they additionally complain about feminized nu-males.
But feminized men are the logical equivalent to masculinized males.
Same with all these ideas about "red-pilled" women. Pic very related.
>>26382754
She looks like SJW, dodged a cannonball.
>>26382538
>>26382583
>If a guy is being assertive , he's being wise and confident
>a woman being assertive is a bitch
Fucking women think they're oppressed every day : NAGGING OR BEING RUDE =/= ASSERTIVENESS
>>26382798
>to masculinized males
*to masculinized females.
>>26380831
I bet you like Trump.
>>26382809
Assertiveness is a masculine characteristic, what's so hard to understand about that?
>>26382740
>>26382766
>I want a woman that offers me more than her body strokes my ego. Some one to have a mutual connection with . And unconditional love
>WOAH DUDE YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING SEX!!WHY ASK FOR MORE? !?!?!?!???
>>26382845
Glad that you are aware of your role. Now hows about we see those tits.
>>26382896
I got muscles does that mean I can own any woman I see?
>>26382871
What makes you think a woman who is willing to follow your lead would only give you her body? She's more likely to be intelligent and self aware. You can discuss things with her, do all the stuff that people do to connect to each other, but when it comes to making important decisions you get the last word.
>>26382809
Coffee girl post is mine, I'm not a chick.
>NAGGING OR BEING RUDE =/= ASSERTIVENESS
Assertiveness was used to denote who's in charge in the relationship, if your wife is in charge you're going to have problems.
My neighbor told me he was glad his wife was dead, he let her rule over him and now that she's gone he can finally fix up his house in all the ways he wanted to. If you let your wife take charge you're just gonna hate each other.
>>26382871
Nothing you said is precluded by the OP.
>>26382926
According to the OP, that's exactly right.
Now stop fuking around and post your tits.
>>26382845
So is sleeping with multiple people. But women continue to do that. Also working in trade/industrial areas, do sports, and cheat. Following gender roles is a fucking joke. Especially for males. If assertiveness can go a long way for a male, it can for females
>>26382955
Ok. How do I look?
>>26382959
Sleeping with multiple people is degenerate, regardless of your gender. Also, you're missing the point, not being assertive makes you look beta in the eyes of a woman.
>>26382935
>>26382935
>if your wife is in charge you're going to have problems.
So women's fucking problem is that they're too fucking stupid to make wise decisions.
>w-Why do guys just go for hawt gurl
>muh personality ;_;
ITT bunch of foreveralone virgin fags talking about woman psyche.
Yall niggers can fuck right off, i dont give a shit about your opinion, mainly because it is flawed.
If anyone acts like OP said then its just a matter of time before the woman figures out that you are fake. Just like with everything else in life, you either "get it" or you dont.
Robotic virgin OP will hardly make you "get it", and if any of you thinks that life or half of the population can be summed up in couple of sentences then you really need reality check.
>>26381980
>>If you've had a traumatizing experience, take it as a chance to learn not as an excuse to be a whiny man child
Why is it that women almost never have the same mindset? Because there's no such thing as a "whiny woman child"? We're told that we have to deal with it and support her while she gets over it.
>>If I have a problem in my life and I don't know how to get out of it because I focus in unimportant things, much like a child, show me how things work.
If you focus on unimportant things and you know it, it's your problem. This is exactly the opposite of "take it as a chance to learn not as an excuse to be a whiny man child". Why is this ok that I keep my past shit away but you get center stage?
>>if my behavior is bad don't let me get away with it
That doesn't always work. Partially because a number of women don't use logic. And I want anyone to tell me that they told their gf "no sex for you", and didn't get "I guess I'll find another way, huh".
>>sometimes I get treated poorly because I looked for it, don't make me think I'm a little princess who can do whatever she wants and still have her Prince Charming come at her defense
You get treated poorly because you're stupid and don't realize how reality works. There's a huge difference between treating someone well because you mean a lot and being coddled. Even better, be your own defense. Don't go to me to protect you and, failing that, go to another man. That can lead to bullshit cheating with the excuse of "well he did help me...". If you don't drop her then and there, you're telling this vapid chimp that she can keep doing it. And that will lead to wanting to do more.
>Do you understand now or do you want me to dumb it down even more?
Dumb it down to a woman's real sense of logic, please. Which is almost just asking for more bait.
>>26382554
Oh shut up.
You just want to stay at home and cooking and cleaning, doing shit. While your husband provides for you neck and limb because you're too lazy to go to school, get a job, and support your damn self.
You conservatives really need to realize why America has not and will not go back in time to the 1950's. I bet you'd be fine with me slapping the shit out of you if you were to ever get out of line and saying something foul.
>>26382983
Like a fucking abomination.
>>26380831
Women only want money
>>26382998
>Men must follow gender roles just to get laid
Is this the ultimate red-pill?
>>26383025
You didn't link the post you wanted to and yes, we get our emotions mixed up with our thoughts too often and that disqualifies to be a good decision maker.
>>26383042
>You conservatives really need to realize why America has not and will not go back in time to the 1950's
Your attitude is why conservatives outbreed liberals and the religious are at above replacement rate birth levels.
>>26383072
Give a concrete example of this.
Show me a retarded woman decision where she could have benefited from having a robot tell her what she should have done.
>>26383027
Because we are not the same, we function differently.
You also didn't get the part about defending women, don't defend her if she deserves it that's what I said.
>>26383133
Your OP implies that some men function significantly differently from other men (such as some men being better able to cope with trauma).
So are men different from other men, but women basically all like other women?
>>26383117
>a woman lets her daughter dress like a slut because she wants her to get boy's attention
If there was a dominant male figure in her life he would've refused to let their daughter do that.
>>26383072
That's not an inherent trait, though. It really seems like that is what you are implying.
Men can do the same thing, if they were raised by a single mother, who was also raised by a single mother.
You can't expect a guy to "take the lead" and "be a man" etc. etc. if all he's known is to react based on his emotions, like a women. Most of /r9k/ will never consider advice like this because we are all fucked up in some way.
Your advice only applies to people of mentally stable families with both parents who stick around long enough for the child until at least bout his 20's.
>>26383161
And then the daughter would just want it even more because we all know that
>forbidden fruit tastes the best
What is your point?
>>26383117
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2263518/I-left-love-life-I-thought-I-better-Now-Im-childless-42.html#comments
>>26383157
I do think men are more diverse than women (hence why men like fat girls, short girls, tall girls, skinny girls, etc and women only like one kind of men), women only vary in how femenine they are, all of them can put on a shell and pretend they want to wear the pants in the relationship but when the man actually lets her do that he loses worth in his eyes.
>>26383072
>we get our emotions mixed up with our thoughts too often and that disqualifies to be a good decision maker.
So why should I or society as a whole give a shit about what feminist have to say? Why do women have to vote? Why is there women thinking they can lead a fucking country? Not even being misogynistic, I just want to know you can have a child's brain inside of a grown person and actually BELIEVE you're entitled to have the same rights as men?
>>26383192
My point is that her father can convince her that there are other ways to get men's attention, this is why women who have good relationships with their fathers are less likely to be sluts and the same reason why there's the whole "daddy issues" stereotype (this doesn't necessarily mean your daddy left you, having s beta daddy can also lead to daddy issues)
>>26383204
>women only like one kind of men
Jesus fucking christ, this retarded circle jerk is insane.
>Im not getting any, so that means every guy who is getting some is exactly the same
>>26383133
>>>26383027 (You)
>Because we are not the same, we function differently.
>You also didn't get the part about defending women, don't defend her if she deserves it that's what I said.
If we function differently, then the absolute worst feminists need to stop with this "everything you can do, I can do better" shit. Pay gap was taken care of in the 60s. Most women still have their boyfriends and husbands pay for them. Women still have superior power in relationships, especially when it comes to abuse and custody.
It's having both "I'm different, help me but don't get mad if I don't help you" and "I wear the pants in this relationship".
That's fine to not defend her but too many women are used to being defended. They lack real autonomy. They'll go "girl powerrrrrr :333" but then claim they're victims. They'll insist they can kick your ass if you keep talking smack to them, but one hit to them and you're a sexist. Women's real power is being the victim. It's knowing that they can rely on men if they sell themselves that way.
My issue is that women want it all. And they shouldn't have it because men don't.
Inb4 "but men are most of the politicians and they cause all wars!". Yeah. Prohibition was also started by religious women because their husbands weren't around as much.
>>26383208
I don't think so. Women shouldn't vote, we make horrible decisions; also, women should not teach or have any authority over men.
>>26383258
Yeah, point is he can convince however much he wants, if a woman (or anyone really but women especially) wants to do something, she will fucking do it no matter the cost.
The more you try to control her the worse her rebellion phase will be.
>>26383270
All of you say that women want Chad yet when it comes from a woman's mouth you hate to hear it. It is true, most women like one kind of guy physically.
>>26383315
Yeah dude, parenting is retarded and pointless kids just do whatever they want!
It's not like you're a total retarded faggot and daughters from a 2 parent home are far less likely to be pregnant teens or go wayward!
>>26383204
No man truly like fat girls they naturally turn off men because they're bodies do not have the qualities for child bearing. We are attracted to big breasts and wide hips because it is a sign a women has what it takes to bear our seed.
>>26383315
That's why I said he can tell his daughter there are better ways, that's not called controlling; if he was cotrolling he would just say "because I say so", and even if he with his fatherly love can't convince his daughter not to do it He can still convince his wife in why it's wrong to condone that kind of behavior.
>>26383328
Well since i am not a bee or anything i can only think and speak for myself and not for "all of us".
If you actually believe that real women date/fuck/marry/whatever just one type of guy then you are delusional as fuck.
Where did the diversity in men come from then, rape? How do you think there came to be millions of combinations in human appearance if women only fuck with one type of men?
>>26383284
>Your attitude is why conservatives outbreed liberals
>the religious are at above replacement rate birth levels.
Ok, so they dont like condems? What does that matter? And does your answer have to do with "traditional family morals" or some dumb shit?
>>26383281
You just wasted your time writing all of that because I do not stand behind none of those statements, so I can't help you with that. I don't want equal rights for men and women, as for voting or being a politician.
>Show me what a true civilized man acts like.
Should be fixed to
>Show me what a true civilized man would act like in my eyes.
Some women will appreciate it most if you call them out on their bullshit, some respond much better to shrugging it off or not giving them attention for it when she's acting childish, some respond best to putting some distance between you and her whenever it happens until she's ready t act normal again.
Choosing the "wrong" approach for the specific woman could seem to work in the beginning but only later turn out being the wrong approach after all. Often when it's too late to change your modus operandi.
>If I disrespect you with my tone of voice and facial expressions punish me for it by not speaking to me.
Here, too, it's person dependent. Silent treatment works for some, calling them on their bullshit works better for others.
>Ask me how do I behave around that man and point out the flaws in me that made him think that I was not worthy of respect.
Only works well with women who are not really insecure, yet not too proud. Any other moment there's no "winning" possible. Coming to their defense right away is often indeed not the best method regardless.
Other than that, sounds about right from my experience.
When women continuously keep complaining, act childish, or expect me to take the lead while blaming all things wrong on me and rather than looking for fixes just wanting to cry or vent, it gets quite tiring though.
It's for this reason I'm no longer looking for a gf. If I end up meeting a mature woman who's at least somewhat independent and capable of making things work (like actually listen to methods to fix things), I'm all for it. My two only exes were not worth it, that's something I found out at least. Although I have improved since and granted they had their own fair share of significant issues, I'm not interested in risking finding someone similar to them or too fickle. To me, fantastic gf > okay gf = single > mediocre gf
>>26383355
>muh statistics and graphs
Fuck off
>>26383362
Thats all nice, but it does not guarantee she will share his opinion.
With that attitude she will just act like "daddys sweet girl" when around him and be a total slut behind his back.
I dont know if you are virgin or whatever, but the biggest sluts i have known either came from the richest families around or were "the good girls".
>>26383356
Another load of bullshit.
I love fat girls, WHERE THE FUCK do you get off talking about half the population preferences in mates?
>>26383365
You're delusional. If you show a group of women pictures of men that they don't know, most of them will have similar choices, that doesn't mean they won't date/havesexwith/marry men who don't look like that because there are other factors that contribute to attraction such as status, attitude, etc.
>>26383371
You linked the wrong post
>>26383413
Those girls come from families that give them money not actual attention.
>>26383440
Yeah that just proves my point.
You can generalize like fucking retard all you want, same can be said for men
>Hurr DURR MEN ONLY LIEK ONE TYPE OF WOMEN CUZ WHEN THEY SHOWED THEM PICTURES THEY ALL LIKED THE BEST LOOKING ONE
What a fucking surprise, people find attractive people attractive, someone give this man a nobel prize.
Just because they found FUCKING PICTURES attractive does not mean jack shit. In reality the guy could be lacking that certain something which makes women want him. Not to mention that his retarded generalization is...well retarded
>>26383399
Well I do. It's bullshit to have double standards and be called a sexist for saying what's true. Especially when every bit of propaganda involves protecting women from men, each other, and even themselves. Don't ask context, don't say they deserved it,blindly help because it's what women say makes for a good man.
I love the idea of a woman in a collar with a leash but at least that type listens to what you say and doesn't go "you don't know better", only to say they dun goofed again.
I know I'm venting at this point but christ is it a problem.
>>26383371
>Ok, so they dont like condems?
No, they get into more stable relationships instead of slutting around forever and raise their kids.
>And does your answer have to do with "traditional family morals"
Of course it does, keep pretending that it doesn't matter and conservatives will keep having happier healthier homes with more children as liberals become irrelevant because they forgot to breed.
>>26383413
>muh statistics and graphs
Butt blasted because your opinions have no factual basis?
>>26383499
Yeah thats why i mentioned the second group also. The girls with best grades, virgin friends, no makeup etc.
>>26383507
>Butt blasted because your opinions have no factual basis?
Well it has basis in reality instead on paper. You know, by actually talking to and observing real women, in real life? Instead of judging half the population based on few statistics you found online
>>26383500
My point is that men were more diverse when it comes to what and who they find attractive and that this affects their behavior, why are you making such a big deal out of it?
>>26383539
Because i am fucking tired of this motherfucking circlejerk. The whole fucking thread is retarded.
How can you fucking talk about imaginary women and bundle half the population in the same sack? There are no 2 same people on earth, let alone half the population.
>>26383432
Because it's our natural biology and it's part of the reason humans have survived for so long. If males liked fucking fat chicks then we would have been extinct a long time ago because they wouldn't have been fit to run away from preying animals and they would have eaten up all the food resulting in the male starving and becoming to weak to protect her and the child.
>>26383538
Have you ever considered that your 'reality' conflicts with the general stats because it's wrong or at the very least comically absolutist?
>hurr durr she'll just rebel it'll never work, fuck you for showing me it works better on average
>>26383502
I understand it's a really big problem and I really feel bad for the few men that aren't deluded because there's fewer women that aren't deluded.
>>26383538
I've never met a "whore" who came from a healthy family (a family in which the man is the head of the home) and a good relationship with her father.
>>26383556
One day you'll understand that people aren't as unique or like special snowflakes as you think they are.
>>26383560
>If males liked fucking fat chicks then we would have been extinct a long time ago
k
>>26383556
You're a little bit too sensitive I believe, haven't you learned to take everything with a pinch of salt?
>hurr hurr all wymen are whores
>all wymen want Chad
>women are inclined into thinking X way
You're so fucking dumb!
>>26383072
Men can be very prone to thinking with their penis rather than their brains.
Women can be very prone to thinking with their hearts rather than their brains.
Even though men following their penis is something that's sometimes condoned because "boys will be boys", more often than not it causes them to get in trouble. In addition, men are expected to be able to at the very least keep their penis from doing the decision-making when it counts.
Women thinking with their heart is often condoned as well, because "girls will be girls", however fickle it makes them and however often it may cause trouble for them.
I'm very capable of avoiding thinking with my penis (perhaps too capable, but that's because I simply don't allow it).
I'd like to think it's only fair of me to expect women to be able to at least somewhat keep from irrational behavior and decision-making when it counts.
If I go for a gf, we're in this together. Both will need to make it work and do their part of the effort. I'm okay with her doing more supportive and I more leading effort for example, I'm not expecting 50/50 with every single aspect of making it work.
But, I have no desire to carry around dead weight doing >90% of the leading, attempts at improving, supporting us both financially and emotionally, while all she does is drag her feet and slow us down - which is what the whole fickle heart deciding can often cause.
Is it not understandable that at that point a man might decide to let go of the dead weight to preserve oneself?
Much like how it's understandable if a woman decides to let go of a man who keeps following his penis.
I'm digressing, but it all stems from that same "thinking with the heart" that causes poor decision making even when it counts most.
>>26383611
One day you will understand that drowning in your own ego and considering yourself "all-knowing" just cause you read bunch of shit statistics online is literally retarded and not mature at all.
>I know about people because i read stuff online
>>26382168
ok this convinced me
op is legit
>>26383584
Yeah, remind me of all that when you and yours start crying about all women being bitches and "gunna hero soon cuz have nobody".
At least you still have
>muh statistics
>>26383654
The whole post was making women better, to not let them get away with their childish ways. If you get a woman who has already mastered getting her heart away from her opinions then good for you, but chances are you are going to have to help her get a little bit better.
>>26383631
>i spend my life on 4chan debating made up generalizations
>When somebody points it out i call him retard
Ok mang
>>26383589
It's insanity. It almost makes me wish the US declines like Japan and women become assertive because it means they'll be more genuine and realize that their pussy isn't the key to all troubles. It's the key to even more troubles. Fuck, I have two fleshlights and if I heat them up with warm water, they're better than most women I've had relations with. Sex and kink works if you're a virgin or desperate.
Though the one, singular thing I'd love to have? Birth control. Gimme a pill, injection, anything that simply kills sperm for any duration that women get. Because so far it's either latex which makes it hard to feel anything (for me) or fucking castration.
It's infuriating. And it's only getting worse.
>>26383624
That is disgusting anyone who finds that pic attractive wouldn't survive a second in the wild. Humans are lucky to have gotten this far please do not ruin our advancement as a species we did not come this far to fall in love with fat chicks.
>>26383707
I didn't call anyone a retard. The "you're so dumb" part was the board's reaction to my post.
>>26382629
You have to play it off in a non assholish way you're just blunt strong american conservative but not at all rupiblican bohemian of the woods man Nick Offerman.
I love the man on the real though he's so fucking cool.
>>26383654
Thinking with the penis is part of the reason we are all alive. If we didn't then our species would have never reproduced and would have gone extinct a long time ago.
>>26383507
>that pic
>'likely'
>hypothetical
Get it?
Not every women is a brain dead dog like you.
>>26383727
>statue is from 2000+ bc
>That is disgusting anyone who finds that pic attractive wouldn't survive a second in the wild.
>wouldn't survive a second in the wild.
I bet you could teach those men thing or two, sitting in front of a screen and all that skill.
>>26383723
Why don't you get a vasectomy? You can freeze your sperm and it's also reversible that way you can continue being a degenerate and no kid will have to suffer for having you and the women you engage in no marital sex with as parents.
>>26382554
dont use the word evolution ever again, you literal retard
do you realize that the traditional family came into existence only after humans went from hunting/gathering to farming? do you know there is an actual fucking science about it?
go read a book for once instead of pol bullshit
>>26383760
You mean the mutilation? Pass, fampai. I want as much freedom as a woman to not have to worry about having a kid. Behold, equality. I deserve that much.
>>26383756
Not a woman.
The liberated men/women are also less likely to reproduce, which is why conservatives will continue to outbreed liberals.
>>26383790
I forgot to mention; vasectomies have a sizable margin for error.
So it's mutilation and not even worth it.
>>26383757
They obviously didn't find it attractive they used it as a way to make fat people feel ashamed of themselves. Think about it, how would someone become fat in the first place? BY EATING UNNECESSARY AMOUNTS OF FOOD. That was a crime in every civilization because it would have caused the rest of the people to starve and therefore would destroy the whole entire civilization.
>>26383804
>The liberated men/women are also less likely to reproduce, which is why conservatives will likely continue to outbreed liberals.
ftfy
>>26383832
Obviously, that is why its called Venus AKA godless of BEAUTY and love.
>That was a crime in every civilization
Source
>my shortsighted opinion
>>26383845
I'm fine with that.
>>26383874
Is there actually any proof that people found fat women hot beyond a random statue? Are there ancient cumstains on it or something?
>>26383189
That would explain my lack of leadership skills a fair bit, being raised by a single mother and taught to be particularly polite, selfless, passive basically, and other "beta" traits. Taught that it's much better to ask permission than it is to ask forgiveness, that if you're not absolutely certain other people will actually want you to do something, it's better not to do it.
Surprise surprise, leadership and assertiveness require one to take the risk of possibly inconveniencing others in the process, as a guy you're basically expected to try and take what you want to some extent, and being passive is detrimental.
Luckily I managed to reduce thinking only in emotions over time, and in hindsight my mother did show some remarkable capability of keeping her kids fed and clothed as much as possible. I may lack some fairly significant "alpha" and "masculine" traits, but she tried to teach me what she thought was best for me.
In that light, knowing that even though she had plenty of manipulative and emotional moments in the past and present and I had to grow up quickly so I could be emotional support to her when needed, she actually showed the ability to make hard decisions when needed. Actually showing initiative and such in the past 5 years, fixing broken stuff around the house where needed on her own, stuff like that.
Whenever I inconvenience other people, I feel bad for it. Even if it was a slight and brief inconvenience and I got a lot of benefit from it, it takes some effort to stop feeling like a bad person for it.
It's why I can't walk up to some woman and ask her out on a date. I'm fine with rejection, I just don't want to end up being a negative presence to the person.
It's why OP's advice won't be of use to me, and why I'll stick with enjoying my single life as much as I can instead./blog
>>26383889
Well for non-retarded people the fact that there are tons of these Venuses found and dating all the way back to 25k bc is proof enough.
For retards i guess you have to find something else as a proof instead of actual shrines and shit devoted to fat goddesses of love all throughout history.
I mean, if i was a dude living in 25 000 BC i would for sure spent half my life carving statue of woman shaped the way i hate, common sense right?
>>26383703
>but chances are you are going to have to help her get a little bit better.
And I'm okay with that, it's just that it does require at least some maturity and capability of taking feedback, accepting being called out on childish behavior, and already show at least very strong signs of the potential to keep heart and decision/opinion separated when needed.
It requires a foundation you can work with, a decent template if you will.
In my opinion an important thing to note in addition OP's post.
Without it, I just can't even consider a relationship with the woman.
Much like how a woman with her act together isn't waiting for a childish guy; it requires a foundation to build upon.
>>26383874
THIS is a statue of Venus from the Romans one the most successful civilizations ever. She is the definition of attraction for every male out there. You are just a boy who has gone against his natural Biology.
>>26383969
It could be for religious reasons.
>>26383753
Hence why it's condoned at times, and hence why I stated when it counts most it's important and expected to be able to not do so.
Rape and trying to mate with as many women as possible in the shortest amount of time is no longer a necessary thing to keep one's genes alive like it was a long time ago. Let alone necessary for mankind to not go extinct; the concept of stable and monogamous relationships works well enough for that already in this day and age.
>>26380831
Women are overgrown entitled children more at 11.
>>26384007
>Most successful civilization ever
Ok how come i am not speaking latin and there is no Rome to speak of (and hast been for nearly 2 millennium)?
Also
>basing your sexual preferences on something other people have made
>calling other people kids
Yeah, i am not ashamed of what i like in women and neither do i need guys who thought its ok to fuck little boys to tell me what should i like.
>>26383996
A lot of people were saying "so basically a child" or "I don't want a child", but what they don't realize is that a woman who thinks as I described in the OP, is a woman who can take criticism and is willing to grow; so basically, if they think I described a childish woman they have known no woman at all, because most of them think they're perfect just the way they are and that their existence should guarantee a perfect man.
I hope that you can find a woman that's the way you described, if you're young then maybe you'll have to wait a little bit longer.
>>26384101
Because you aren't living in Rome dumbass. I said ONE of the most successful civilizations and it probably was the most successful up until the recent modern civilizations we have now. Maybe you haven't realized yet but there are thousands of civilizations in history and Rome is one of the most influential ones for our modern civilations
>>26384156
>jacks all of Greeces philosophy, culture, religion
>still collapses anyways
>>26381658
What that dude gay though
>>26384183
That's why our civilization took all the successful parts of Rome's civ and left behind all the ones that failed
>>26384156
Yeah and they also liked fucking little boys, your point?
If it wasnt for them there would probably never be christianity in europe and neither jews. Tribes who lived here would not let fucking sandniggers and jews in and hijack the money and education of future generations.
And even if they WERE the best civilization eva (they were not, not even close), that does not mean i will automatically agree with or like what they did.
I am me, not them.
Maybe its time to grow up out of your idealization phase and develop your own personality?
>>26381529
it.. this.. just
hold up a second
you fucking asked someone to screencap this?
Are you some kind of fucking retard? Can't you take a fucking screencap your fucking self?
Are ou not able to press 1 or 2 keys on our keyboard? I mean you were able to type and post our comment, why stop there?
I'm usually not the kind of person that gets mad if people ask stuff that could be solved by 5 minutes of google, I actually often do that myself but we are talking about a MOTHER.
FUCKING.
SCREEN.
SHOT. right here!
There is literally NO excuse for you to be this stupid. And the worst thing is there's also this fucking retard right here >>26381564 that helps you out with your '''''problem'''''
88/10, bretty mad
>>26384113
>A lot of people were saying "so basically a child" or "I don't want a child", but what they don't realize is that a woman who thinks as I described in the OP, is a woman who can take criticism and is willing to grow...
To grow, but never to the extent she's capable of living her own life without a man running her life for her.
>>26384231
some people might be on their phones which dont have the ability to screenshot
fuckwit
>>26384280
She is capable of living her own life. It's just that the man she's with will be the tiebreaker when it comes to important decisions.
>>26384289
nope.
This is not an excuse. every phone that's able to browse the internet has an easy function to take a motherfucking goddamn screenshot. Go 'fuckwit' yourself, nigger
>>26384113
I couldn't agree more.
>if they think I described a childish woman they have known no woman at all
I think this applies to a lot of people in this thread who are claiming as you said. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of people here either assume the stereotypes of women presented on /r9k1/ are factual, are still young and thus mostly have met young women, or a combination of both.
Depending on one's location and what one does in terms of socializing, it can be difficult at times finding women who seem more mature at first sight or first encounter, to boot.
Last ex was about 5 years ago, so both her and I were still young; both childish enough to not make it work, either.
Most actual "real" women I met are already in a serious and long relationship (no surprise of course).However sappy, I actually find it nice seeing stable men and women in a relationship together. I don't care it's not me, I feel no entitlement, it's just nice when cherrypicked images on /r9k1/ are not represented by the decent people I now.
>I hope that you can find a woman that's the way you described, if you're young then maybe you'll have to wait a little bit longer.
I'm 27, and thank you. I'm currently not looking for anything serious, as I still have things I want to improve for my own sake; going for a relationship now and improving for her sake would be the wrong motivation; if things fall apart, I'd lose that motivation as well and grow stagnant again. I don't want that.
I'm probably not assertive enough either. I can be if I know what needs to be done and all parties affected indicate they want me to lead and they want whatever action is expected as well, but not selfishly.
right now it'd take a woman who's stable but "wired differently" as that's what I am as well. Rather than casual dating to try and find that person, I'll focus on other things for now. And who knows maybe one day I will meet such a woman, even better. If not, no harm done.
>>26384382
>>26384113
I hope you'll find a woman fitting your description/preferences as well, Anon.
>I can be childish at times
>I do not work or bring home money
>My gf is paying for everything and has been for 4 years
>she still looks up to me
Yeah, nah. This generalization bullshit is just that, bullshit.
>>26384382
I'm glad that you can recognize your flaws and try to change them for your own sake rather than for somebody else, introspection is something that we should all work on. I grew out of the "I'm a special snowflake and deserve everything" a couple of years ago, even though I'm really young I still wish I would've realized earlier the importance of self improvement. You sound like a good man, keep up the good work.
>>26380831
holy kek look at all the autism you've stirred up in this thread OP
>>26384652
Proud of myself t b h
02/10/16 never forget
>>26384520
Introspection is certainly a very useful thing indeed.
I got out of the "Special snowflake entitlement" phase about 4 years ago as well, also wish I could've realized the importance of self improvement. I was stagnant for way too long, so much time wasted. But it's not something to dwell upon, best to make do and work on it now, rather than waste yet more time dwelling and using a forfeiture approach (been there done that as well).
Likewise, man, it's nice hearing of fellow robots able to get out of that vicious cycle; that and staying out of it are often the hardest part of it all.
>>26384671
Well, being an 18 year old woman it's specially hard to stay out of it because your surrounding are constantly trying to convince you that you are, indeed, a special snowflake. That's probably why I like /r9k/ it gets me off of my high horse.
>being a worrisome cuck about the vaginal jew
>>26383432
this was so obviously written by a fat girl
the whole "WHERE THE FUCK" is such a classic tumblr way of typing
>>26384736
I can only imagine. Whenever you might have a slight concern or self-doubt, you'll likely have plenty of people tell you otherwise; that you're special and great just the way you are. And not the standard deal where friends will do so or when you might have a worse self image than warranted by your looks, personality, etc., but almost any man you'll come across who either might want to get in your pants or doesn't want to hurt your feelings with the general assumption that men have no feelings that can be hurt while women have too many of them. support ad infinitum.
I must admit I can't imagine it completely. Skeptical as I am, I'd probably continuously assume people only say positive things because they either want to get in my pants or they feel that's expected of them.
I already have that as a guy with my friends; I'm perhaps average looking, yet friends claim I'm a solid 7+/10 which is bullshit, but they "have" to say that because it's socially expected. Same with pretty much any compliment by friends and acquaintances.
But I digress.
All the while on /r9k1/ you'll get the complete opposite response most of the time, blind rage and directing of one's frustration with their perceived world view and how women are, towards you ad infinitum.
>18 year old
Just a precaution: Even with introspection already happen, avoid falling for the age old self-perception of assuming you're wise already. Chances are even with what you know now, in 10 years you'll look back and think "well fuck, I knew nothing". Been there, done that, and knowing now I still have much to learn I'll likely look back in some years and think "yup, still had and have a lot to learn".
>mfw i learn i am a fat girl
>>26384520
>>26384671
>>26384736
>>26385059
ITT human being-tier women
Kudos.
>>26385098
>>26384671
>>26385059
I'm actually a guy (sounds odd having to say that; "I'm a guy btw"), but I'll still take the "human being-tier".
>>26385147
You aren't a shit like most of the population. That's way more than enough.
>>26384183
It just became the byzantine empire.
>cater to me in a very specific way and act according to the framework I've laid out for you and play the retarded female mind/posturing game for the rest of your life while maintaining some bizarre narrative about the woman being subservient for your compliance with this just so you can have access to a vagina
Nah, fuck off with this shit. People like you and the "improvin mahself for mahself" (which coincidentally means forcing yourself to become what women find attractive, crazy) crowd are fucking ridiculous. I wish being gay was a choice.
>>26380831
This is all true.
Although i still don't understand why you robots still want girlfriends.
>>26380831
Really, when someone behaves this way, I think the appropriate response would be to encourage them to deprogram themselves so that they can become less dependent people
