Is anime a requirement of robot life? It looks terrible and It's extremely cringey to watch. How can I enjoy it fellow robots?
Do drugs before you watch sempai
Makes you care less about the "cringey", imaginary social ramifications and more about what's going on
Also makes you more likely to forgive unnecessarily convoluted plotlines
Don't watch shounen
Watch the non moeshit seinen stuff /a/ likes
shounen = targeted for young boys, Naruto, Bleach etc.
seinen = targeted for adult men
seinen =
Watch Galaxy Express 999, Harlock, Yamato and other Leiji Matsumoto stuff
I've watched dragonball/z/gt,boki,elfen lied,gundam, evangelion,Sao. The females In them just seem like some perverts fantasy woman and it's hard to watch.
Don't take it too seriously
>>26078626
Cowboy Bebop is a good gateway show I think. Since it has a lot of western influence I think it's pretty easy to get into without a background in anime.
>>26078626
You're not a robot if you use the word cringey. True robots have no shame.
Is MLP an acceptable alternative
I don't get the fascination with japanese cartoon tv shows.
Like...I could think of a million better things to distract myself with and a million better imaginary fairy-tale worlds I got delve my mind into that are a million times less cringy than that.
It just seems like a really lazy/normie way of escapism. It's like the poor-mans escapism. It's like playing Runescape over WoW. It prefering call of duty over counterstrike. It's just pathetic.
>>26078766
You don't belong on 4chan buddy.
>>26078725
This is Op, it's what I watched so far that made me feel this way
>>26078708
>tfw no patrician anime bf, who will bully me for liking cute girls doing cute things
>>26078778
Then shut the fuck up or watch more shows until you find some you like.
it's all basically porn
>>26078766
Enjoying something is enough to do it. Who cares about the best? best by what standards?
>>26078784
It's not very good and I'm wondering if there is more to it.
>>26078626
Try Cowboy Bebop. It may not be the "best" anime out there, but it's my favourite by a damn country mile. I've probably watched it at least 5 times in its entirety by now. I seriously don't think there is a single moment where I found myself getting bored of it.
>>26078809
This. The worst thing that could happen to anime is what happened to video games. Anime doesn't need to be super srs gender equitable "works of art" you either like watching it you don't. If you don't, then fuck off.
>>26078708
>galaxy express
>113 episodes
How do people watch any series with more than two seasons?
>>26078830
What makes it so memorable for you?
>>26078865
It's not like you have to sit there and watch it all in one sitting.
If something has more than two seasons, I'll usually watch a bulk of it when I first start and then slow my pace down to like 3-4 episodes whenever I feel like watching it.
Cowboy bebop is nostalgia bullshit. Watch welcome to the NHK or toradora.
>>26078766
What makes something pathetic or cringe?
>>26078708
>Galaxy Express 999
Where do I even begin?
>>26078909
This imo
I've watched a little bit of it and so far it's good but it's not mindblowing
>>26078626
Watch Future Boy Conan
>>26078889
It's hard to pinpoint and I'm generally just not great at explaining things, but I'm pretty sure it's the characters and how much chemistry they have with one another. It doesn't feel "anime" if you get what I'm saying. Also the soundtrack is A+++
>>26078822
There is. Youre like a retard who discovers a new continent, explores 15 feet, sees is a desert, then decide the rest of the continent must be desert. There's plenty of straightlaced, non moe anime without any fan service. Now shut the fuck up until you know what you're taking about.
>>26078830
Literally everyone and and their mother has seen cowboy bepop. Anyone who claims that cowboy bepop is their favorite anime had seen like 5 anime max. I like it but its an extremely overrated meme.
what's your favorite slice of life anime?
I need something to watch
>>26078766
playing a lot of runescape is very robot. it's a very repetitive, pointless, low skill, grindy game. back in the day it was the bomb.
>>26078626
Watch an anime that doesn't tryhard or take itself seriously.Pic Related
>>26078954
>I like it but its an extremely overrated meme.
That's your opinion and that's ok. But I can still have a favourite.
>>26078966
Barakamon
Mimi wo Sumabesa
>>26078930
Oh man I vaguely recall seeing this a long, long, long time ago
Too long to know what it was really about
Is it old? I must've been a kid
I definitely recognize the pigtail girl and her straw hat
>>26078966
I've only seen 1 slice of lifei need to go back and finish it
>>26078626
try ping pong
not in an anime style, pretty short, incredibly well done
if you like that maybe try tatami galaxy, it's the same director
>>26078966
Genshiken, Barakamon, Natsumes Book of Friends, Gin no Saji, School Rumble, Usagi Drop
>>26078909
>don't watch mediocre plebshit, watch mediocre plebshit instead
At the least, do yourself a favor and read NHK
>>26078966
Barakamon.
It's not the usual cute girls doing cute things SoL, but it leaves you with an indescribable warmth after you finish it.
>>26078998
True. But I'm 100% sure if you watched more anime you'd change your mind.
Only shounenshit is cringeworthy. Start with something lighthearted.
>>26079050
Ok well I'm open to recommendations. It's not like I don't have the time to watch one or two.
>>26078954
I've seen some of the popular ones and I'm curious of the appeal. You have done nothing but reinforce its a cringey fascination by the way you act. Give examples of what I'm missing instead of resorting to name calling.
>>26078889
>>26078933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81m8_5mccgA
Watch Mind Game
You won't regret it unless the art style puts you off
In which case you're a disgusting pleb
>>26079028
>>26079006
>There will never be a S2 of barakamon
>>26078991
That picture is my main complaint, it's Just an oversexualized cartoon.
>>26078725
It's all shounen
All shounen is garbage
![[Chibiki] THE iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls - 05 [720p][3016223E].mkv_snapshot_16.46_[2015.02.08_15.40.57].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u3fctqg.jpg "[Chibiki] THE iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls - 05 [720p][3016223E].mkv_snapshot_16.46_[2015.02.08_15.40.57].jpg")
>>26078766
Normies watch stuff like Walking Dead, GoT, Mad Men, Star Wars, superhero movies and American animation shows. If they watch anime it's Western friendly stuff like Dragon Ball, Cowboy Bebop, Akira, Ghibli movies and Attack on Titan.
They'll have a fucking seizure if they try to watch something like iDOLM@STER. Even a lot of so-called anime fans can't go anywhere near this stuff and regularly have meltdowns on forums simply because it exists. Normies need not apply.
Anime and otaku culture at large become very escapist if you get really into them. It's a whole media ecosystem with its own culture that can replace everything else in your life, up to and including women.
>>26078779
>bully
This meme needs to die.
>>26079029
>be an anime elitist like me
>you only have good taste if you don't enjoy what you are watching
>>26079113
>oversexualized.
Yes but it's really just used for comedic effect. The less you care about it, the more you'll enjoy it.
It's really comedic fanservice.
>>26079065
>>26079065
Idk what youre into. Watch shokugeki no soma. Or Noragami. Those are pretty casual and normalfag friendly. And stay the fuck away from dubs.
I like anime in a kind of nostalgic/ironic way. It's funny to laugh at, quirky, cheesy in a good way.
I absolutely loved it as a kid. And what regular boy wouldn't some anime is cool as fuck.
>>26079113
>Sexualization is okay when Hollywood does it
>>26079135
>just used for comedic effect
This is literally the same thing as pretending to be retarded.
Op here, I read a manga about kids killing each other , battle royale? anything like that in anime form?
>>26079021
>tatami galaxy
are they ever gonna dub that? the dudes motor mouth makes the subtitles go by real fast.
>>26079165
Yea but with anime you are seeing a glimpse into the mind of a horny dude drawing a female to his lusts.
>>26078626
Avoid moeshit.
Avoid anime altogether. Start reading manga, light novels, and visual novels.
>Manga
Berserk and Jojos
>Light Novels
Kara No Kyokai, Shiki
>Visual Novels
Anything by 07th expansion and Type Moon
If you insist on getting into anime, try Gundam, Space Battleship Yamato, Evangelion, and Fate/Zero
>>26079184
Doubt it. Just gotta read real fast. It's worth it though I think, it's one of my favorites
>>26079184
>Wanting dubs
Kill yourself
>>26079224
Forgot to mention Inferno Cop in my post.
It's short and pretty funny.
>>26079014
1970s I believe. It is about a nuclear wartorn post-apocalyptic world where a young boy parties up with friendlies and former enemies to save the world from another nuclear cleanse. The project is from the studio Ghibli guy
>>26079045
>>26079006
>>26079028
thanks, mates. I'll add them to my list of stuff to watch
>>26078626
There's some good anime out there.
I recommend Boku Dake ga Inai Machi. It's airing this season so it's a good way for you to slip in and it's really fucking good.
>>26079172
The show doesn't soley rely on that for humor, so no it isn't.
It's just one of the things that happens in it.
You can't really get a laugh at a pair of tits being flailed around all the time, but what it does is make the scenes and scenarios even more over the top.
This anime lacks subtlety and it pulls no punches.
It is over the top and extreme in a lot of ways.
You just sort of have to roll with it to enjoy it.
If you get easily annoyed or offended by things then it's not for you.
![poplar_march_4_3_by_silentcaay[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/vtQJH2N.jpg "poplar_march_4_3_by_silentcaay[1].png")
>>26078966
Working!!
>not original
>>26079267
Boku Dake ga Inai MachiWarn him about the "NTR"
>>26079116
What is shounen specifically so I can avoid it
>>26079267
>Implying its good or normalfag friendly
People watch it for the genki memegirl and qt flatfu. Its basically 18 mins of chattering about weird japanese candy we don't know so we can get to memegirl going ahegao over candy and the flatfu blushing and being best girl
>>26079308
I think you're confusing Boku Dake ga Inai Machi for Dagashi Kashi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9G20wV0KHE
>>26079116
>Gundam
>Shounen
Try again, moefag
>>26079333
>gundam
>not produced for kids and autistic manchildren
>>26079328
Yeah my bad pls no bully
>>26079298
Anime marketed to young boys
If you look an anime up on wikipedia, you can usually find its target demographic
Here's an example of a shounen that isn't shit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shigurui
Please recommend more manga. I've seen anime rec threads all over this site but rarely see the same for manga.
>>26079113
Anime is very different from cartoons/American animation on a fundamental level.
>>26079116
I don't get this attitude at all. Why fit everything into neatly labeled boxes and then declare that this or that box is full of shit and need not be bothered with? Why not just judge everything on their own merits?
>>26079165
There is virtually nothing a live action movie or show can do, in terms of sexual and violent content, that will generate any significant complaints from people. Even if it's children getting raped. Anything goes. But if anime so much as features girls in swimsuits or taking a bath, people lose their minds. It sure is an interesting double standard.
>>26079203
And watching Blue is the Warmest Color isn't a glimpse into the director's mind?
>>26079224
>Avoid moeshit.
Moeshit is a meme with no clear meaning and can be applied to virtually anything that has adolescent female characters in it, and chances are very high that you've never even SEEN any of this "moeshit" you're so deathly afraid of (as is the case with most people). It's all just a meme.
This way of labeling and stigmatizing things and relying on dogma and pre-conceptions prevents you from seeing things as they really are and just turns you into a meme-spouting retard who hast no idea what he's talking about. And you want anime neophytes to follow your example? Fuck off.
>>26079298
Shounen is a demographic. Young boys. That's all it truly means. The term is often associated with certain kinds of shows like Dragon Ball, but this is not accurate use of the term. Kyoukai no Rinne for example is shounen too, but it isn't anything like Dragon Ball.
And you should never pre-emptively avoid something just because some fucktard on 4chan told you to. Watch things and make up your own mind.
>>26079356
>implying a kid can properly put together a real-grade model.
If you can find me one kid under 15 that can put together a real-grade model kit i'll get a bus to wherever the fuck you live and suck your dick
Op here, after watch in soa, why was there such a focus on his "sisters" overly large breast. It made me think this is just a perverts fantasy art
>>26078626
lol faggot
very originalllllll
>>26079366
20th Century Boys
Oyasumi Punpun
Berzerk
DEDEDEDEDEDEDEDE (same author as punpun, don't feel like typing out full name)
Bokkou
Saikyou Densetsu Kurosawa
>>26079379
>Anime is very different from cartoons
Stopped reading your post right there
Anime=cartoons, deal with it weeblord
>>26079401
>implying they aren't
The US and japan have completely different attitudes with how they approach animation.
>>26079381I bought my 13yo nephew an RG MKIItitan colorand he build it completely and even painted it
Gundam is still for kids and autistic manchildren
>>26079366
>Prison School (Comedy/Echi/)
>Vagabond (Historical/Action)
>Vinland Saga (Historical/Action)
>Berserk (Fantasy/Horror/Tragedy)
>One Punch Man (Shonen/Action/Comedy)
>Ichi the Killer (Smut/Edgelord/Gorefest/thriller)
>Homonculous (Psychological)
>Me and the Devil Blues (Historical/Music/Action)
>I am a Hero (Zombie/comedy/Horror)
>>26079379
Didn't really mean all shounen was shit, just the vast majority of it
If he avoids the demographic altogether, he'll probably enjoy watching nihonese cartoons more, judging by the opinions he's expressed so far
>>26079379
I asked to avoid it based on what he said because I don't like what I've seen so far
>>26079401
No. They are two different forms of animation. Even if by cartoon you mean American or Western animation, it's still extremely different from anime.
For the life of me I can't understand why there are so many people who honestly think anime and American/Western animation are the same thing, or that anime and cartoons (e.g. Mickey Mouse) are the same thing. It's like people lose all capacity for rational thought when they're confronted with animation.
This is not what cartoons/Western animation/American animation is like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR1cMPnMcaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVMJxT3O9qA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DflP5mBsivA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixF6PXdIBmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5CV71SD1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS2hdT-Zd8Y
>>26079366
Freesia
>>26079436
>>26079471
Why pay any attention to demographics or genre?
>>26079479
>that naruto video
opinion discarded
>>26079509
What does your opinion on Naruto have to do with anything? Do you even have a functioning brain?
What's a good manga source that has a nice selection but doesn't put a huge cuckstamp on every page? I'm too poor to buy physical
>>26079529
>watching naruto
>>26079545
I never said I watch Naruto. I in fact have never seen even a single episode of Naruto. Do you think I listed those videos as examples of good anime (I didn't), or do you just think that your opinions are the most important thing in the universe? Who the fuck cares what you think about Naruto? It has nothing to do with this.
Narutolets when will they learn?
>>26079501
So he doesn't watch Naruto, then Bleach, then One Piece then never watch anything else
>>26079366
Orochi
TAKEMITSU ZAMURAI
Inu yashiki
Dorohedoro
Valdian Saga
Oyasumi punpun
Yotsuba to
Nekojiru Udon Undercurrent
Vagabond
Koku no Hito
Freesia
Ai-Ren
Gon
Eden; it's an endless world!
Black Paradox
Song of the cloud
Umi No Misaki
Evergreen
Homonculus
Golden Boy
Hyouryuu Kyoushitsu
Iris Zero
Marie no kanaderu ongaku
>>26079596
I don't care about demographics and genre and I've never watched any of those or have any interest in watching them.
>>26079605
Adding on to this:
Blu
Honor Child
Pumpkin Attack X
ELE
Inorisho
XXT
Delario
Week Tribe
Elementary Attack 6 Team
Orotoro
Ibano
Lake Song
Ima-Kima
I made all that shit up, if you believed those were real titles let that stand as a testament to how fucking retarded man cartoons are.
>>26079639
What is your point?
>>26079639
Fucking keked. We need threads dedicated to making up shit that sounds like anime
>>26079658
That he's new.
>>26079639
Most based anon
>>26079605
Aint even going to give him a picture of what the series is about like this fine gentleman?>>26079435
>>26079639
You made up random titles, and therefore anime is retarded? And nevermind that the list you're referring to lists manga, not anime.
Yes, I'm sure the retard problem here is coming from anime, and not you.
>>26078626
Watch Black Lagoon
Watch Death Note
Watch Genshiken (very robot)
Watch Welcome to the NHK (robot: the anime)
After that watch nothing but moe trash and the occassional mecha cos everything is else is trash.
I tried but I can't get stuck watching it.
It feels easier to watch western shows or just scroll through /r9k/.
>>26079682
NHK is hardly robot. Normalfags have to have everything work out in the end.
Welcome to the nhk seems to just be for normalfags who happen to be neets.
>>26079509
>le naruto is bad meme
>even though fight featured in that video is awesome regardless of your opinion on naruto
>>26079682
Watch The Office right after this normie list too, its pretty much like Death Note except the people don't die like they deserve
>>26079671
Too much work, man
>>26079699
book > anime when it comes to NHK
I agree anon I was also very dissatisfied with the anime
Too uppity
The book was a bit more authentic
>>26079682
You forgot Watamote
>>26079714
This. The mc is lawl social anxiety xD he is a complete normalfag save for a few instances when the writers need him to freak out. NHK should be considered an insult to any real robot
>>26079718
I wanted him to read the series I suggested, that's why I made the topics more clear to him.
It makes it easy for him to zone out what he doesn't prefer..
>>26079731
It is pretty much just a chinese "The BigBang Theory".
Thats why it flopped in jp
![MV5BMjA4NDg3NzEzNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDkzMjE2MQ@@._V1_SY317_CR11,0,214,317_AL_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/622ksOG.jpg "MV5BMjA4NDg3NzEzNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDkzMjE2MQ@@._V1_SY317_CR11,0,214,317_AL_[1].jpg")
>>26078626
Just got done watching this, first anime since I was 17 (10 years ago).
Honestly it's not that bad, its about the same leve lstory telling/writing as "arrow" or whatever the latest normie show is.
>>26079125
>Star Wars
the only thing good about it is the memes
>>26079744
I saved the series m8
>>26078626
You don't have to, just don't start spazzing out when someone posts it. Still, I think that Welcome to the NHK is essential robotcore
>>26079741
You have a very strange definition of a normalfag.
>>26079747
It's Japanese, and it doesn't have anything to do with BBT.
The anime may not have sold well, but the manga is still on-going.
>>26079767
alright hopefully you'll enjoy at least one of them.
Prison School is honestly my fav, but they are all god-tier manga.
>>26079747
What?
I don't see how they are similar, but I really enjoyed Watamote.
Anime will never fill the gap western cartoons left. I wish there were more alternatives but if you like animation and don't want to watch tumblr tier shit anime is the only option.
>>26078626
It's only cringey if you watch non-moeshit.I used the term ironically.. Excluding fantasy harems of course those are terrible.
Japanese cartoons which try to be:
>cool
>deep
>serious
>epic
>dramatic
>anything other than funny or cute
are cringey. Anime is only good for comedy or cuteness.
Moeshit depicts girls which are superior to 3D sluts. They aren't replacements really, since they aren't real. But it's a good way to temporarily forget about your shitty reality.
>>26079790
Samurai Jack is getting an ending season
>watching anime
>not reading superior manga
>>26079795
>Anime is only good for comedy or cuteness.
You're wrong. Anime is very good for coolness too.
>>26079809
A drop in the bucket
>>26079811
>looking at color-less still pictures of lazily shadowed characters against little to no background
>>26079811
Why did you post the image of a gradient with some random kana?
>>26079754
Well if you want some more try these out:
Abucaraca-baka-flame zero-JOY!!
Chupacabra in
zeto no zeto no zeto
imakimibu
abazabakazu
west east down
control yes
ninukinu
zinturo
metal box plus
yimuri X
LOVE GUN!
Ball of diamonds
BLUE EXPEDITION
Enjoy
>>26079813
>Anime is very good for coolness
Sure it is buddy. Especially those robots, they're super big and cool. Pic related is cool too.
>>26079837
Nice strawman anon :)
>>26079795
>Anime is only good for comedy or cuteness.
Please just fucking die man.
You really think a bunch of squeaking loli's is cute!?
Just fuck off.
You don't know anime, you don't have taste, and you have limited a medium which can allow any thinkable scenario to happen to only cute loli-waifu's and slice of life comedy.
I hope you fucking die.There is nothing wrong with moe or slice of life, but when you dismiss all other genres of anime then you are a cunt.
You literally like the most generic form of anime.
The least creative, the least original, and the least influential.
Limiting yourself to
>slice of life comedy
>moe
>and harem anime
Die in a fire.
>>26079795
>Anime is only good for comedy or cuteness.
Ok kid.
>>26079865
That was a jokeman. I mean, you didn't even say why anime can be "cool" even for adults.
>Ok kid.
The fucking irony.
>>26079872
>loli
This is a meme used by people who don't know what they're talking about. Most moe-type anime has middle and high school girls.
>You literally like the most generic form of anime.
Generic is another dead giveaway. It's a buzzword, it means nothing.
Maybe you should get off your high horse.
>>26079872
>The least creative, the least original, and the least influential
Implying children's cartoons have ever done any of those things. Animefags are so fucking delusional, its all just moeshit or endless powering up and blowing up planets. None of it is "influential" except to manchildren
>>26079795
>It's only cringey if you watch non-moeshit
You realize the stuff that normies will insult and mock you for is moe shows and harems right?
You literally think the cringiest genres of anime are the most socially acceptable.
A normie might pick on you for liking Naruto.
But a normie will fucking report you to the police for watching moe shows, they won't even talk to you.
You'll be that ridiculed.
So much anger/weebrage in this thrrad
>>26079832
Haha. Awe man dude. Those must be super rare! Didn't see em on crunchy roll or watch cartoon xD
>>26079832
Youre so le funny man
>>26079897
I didn't think cringe = not socially acceptable.
imo, watching comedies or cute shows isn't cringey. Pretending the girls are real = cringe though.
>>26079894
Watch any work from Satoshi Kon, and you will immediately disagree.
>>26079888
Moe is the cancer that is keeping more original shows of the current market.
Moe is the reason you have faggots who think this way.>>26079894
You are advocating harem and moe series, two of the most common types of anime there is.
Generic isn't a buzzword.
IT COMPLETELY DESCRIBES HAREM AND MOE.
Just watch cable man, it would work better for you.
>>26079931
I love how deepfags pretend that a lot of their favorite anime is intellectual. If you want something deep then read a book dumbass.
Watch Legend Of The Galactic Heroes, you won't regret it and if you do you must kill yourself.
>>26079931
>Watch any work from Satoshi Kon, and you will immediately disagree.
No I wouldn't, but I'm not going to waste my time. If I pick on at random is it going to be about giant robots or some teenager that gets super powers? 99% chance I'm right.
>>26079926
>watching comedies or cute shows isn't cringey
It's cringey as fuck to anyone who doesn't watch anime.
Seriously, most anime comedies suck, and I love anime comedy.
The humor you find in your generic*buzzzzzzz* harem and moe shows is some of the most boring and unentertaining humor I've ever seen.
Nichijou is shit btw.
>>26079960
Nvm man, you won't even comprehend it.
>>26079953
The fact that you wont acknowledge the possibility of an anime having intellectual depth, shows me you lack intellect.
The dumb argument you made could be applied to any film or tv show that has ever aired.
>"JUST REED A BOOK"
Op here, you Damn weebs lost me in all your arguing. Why are you all arguing with eachother . I just wanted to understand anime a bit more, and this is what it turns into...
>>26080035
Maybe you should try asking reddit, dude.
>>26079881
>The fucking irony.
Where is the irony?
>>26079894
>Implying children's cartoons have ever done any of those things.
Who said anything about children's cartoons?
>its all just moeshit or endless powering up and blowing up planets
Moeshit does not exist, and these "endless powering up" shows constitute, what, Dragon Ball and maybe a couple of others?
It's crazy how even people who don't watch anime are now confidently talking about "moeshit" as if they had any idea what it meant. This is what memes do and this is why they're bad.
>None of it is "influential" except to manchildren
Influential to other anime. And anime has had influence outside of itself too. The Matrix is mostly based on Ghost in the Shell, and The Black Swan borrows several shots from Perfect Blue. The Pacific Rim wouldn't exist without mecha anime.
>>26079931
Moe is a feeling of love, affection and excitement a viewer has towards a character, and can occur anywhere. Moe anime can be considered anime with a heavy or exclusive focus on bishoujo characters without that focus being realistically explained by the setting, genre or target audience. This can mean all sorts of shows.
A moe show in the most strict possible sense includes a very limited number of shows, and there are somewhere between 0 and 3 of them per season. This season there seems to be 0.
And why would you single out moe as "keeping more original shows off the current market" when you could just as easily say it about anything else? A sports, mecha, trapped-in-an-MMO or magical girl show isn't necessarily any more original.
>Generic isn't a buzzword.
>IT COMPLETELY DESCRIBES HAREM AND MOE.
It doesn't mean anything and doesn't describe anything.
>>26078708
>harlock
my nigga i love you
>>26080035
Someone suggested that anime should only consist of harem and moeshit.
So I went off on him rightfully so.
He's literal cancer.
Se from the perspective of someone who likes anime, he's advocating all of it's worst trends.
>>26080070
If you like anime so much then what's with all the clueless meme-spouting?
I don't think it's a must for the title of robot. But watching anime instead of western shows and cartoons will help alienating you from a lot of people who believe anime is for closet pedophiles. Which are a surprising amount.
>>26080070
I respect your passion, could you give me your top 5 based on what I watched already?
>>26078748
I mean some of the greatest anime is spawn of western influence on anime
Cowboy bebop
Jojo
Samurai champloo
There are more but i haven't watched them yet so i cant actually list them as greatest since i have nothing to form an opinion on
>>26080067
>Moe is a feeling of love, affection and excitement a viewer has towards a character, and can occur anywhere.
It doesn't mean anything and doesn't describe anything.Moe certainly has less meaning than the word "generic"
>>26080083
I haven't spouted any memes anon.
>>26080090
what did you watch already?
>>26080067
would this be considered a moe character?
>>26080093
Those shows have much more to do with being Japanese than they do with Western culture. If you told some American studios to make those shows they would turn out completely different.
>>26080099
>It doesn't mean anything and doesn't describe anything.
You're just parroting back something I said? Are you five years old?
There's nothing meaningless, vague or confusing about what moe means. It's very simple.
>Moe certainly has less meaning than the word "generic"
Generic is the number one most popular word used to attack anime or some aspect of anime. People use it over, over, over and over again to attack anything and everything, and they never explain it in any way.
It doesn't mean anything.
>I haven't spouted any memes anon.
Right here: >>26079888
>>26079421
Wonder where that went, you think hes getting his bus pass or something
>>26080124
No, because there cannot be such a thing as a moe character. Moe is something you feel towards a character. A character can only be moe in a subjective sense.
>>26079682
Death note is literally for edgy normies
>>26080126
Your definition of moe is literally like the definition of the word "love"
That's how flimsy it is.
Why should we have to explain why something is generic, if you know the definition of generic?
All I can literally say to you is "it's generic because, it's very common in a lot of anime".
There's nothing else to explain with that word.
That's what it means to be generic.
>>26080144
>a character can be moe in a subjective sense
Okay then the word "moe" without a doubt has less meaning than the word "generic"
YOU ARE LITERALLY DESCRIBING MOE AS AN ABSTRACT EUPHORIC FEELING.
>>26080090
The std on that penis jesus Christ
Yea guys I'm sure this anime noobie wanted to be suggested your obscure pretentious neckbeard shows that nobody likes. God forbid someone likes it then you are a pleb.
>>26080124
>>26078725
Op herehere
>>26080171
>Your definition of moe is literally like the definition of the word "love"
>YOU ARE LITERALLY DESCRIBING MOE AS AN ABSTRACT EUPHORIC FEELING.
That's exactly what moe is. A Japanese writer once summarised it as "an imaginary romance," and an American academic has even used the word euphoric.
>Why should we have to explain why something is generic, if you know the definition of generic?
The dictionary definition is irrelevant, because the word has entered the realm of the buzzword/meme. Now it's just shorthand for "I have NO idea what I'm talking about!"
>>26080126
Sure its about being Japanese but theres so much western influence in them
For instance samurai champloo is full of hip-hop related stuff
Jojo uses western terms all the time
And theres too much for me to get into for bebop cause im about go to sleps
>>26080070
to be quite origi*al comment honest senpai.
>>26080181
Okay I'll give you some standards.
>Berserk
>One Punch Man
>Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood
>Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
>Prison School (Just cause I like it)
>>26080195
Generic is not a buzzword meme. Generic has a definition and it hasn't lost meaning.
Nobody describes shit that isn't mainstream as "generic"
You're literally a hypocrite who is applying the word "meme" and "buzzword" to every adjective he disagrees with.
Generic is a completely legitimate term.
Here are some terms that have lost legitimacy:
>Buzzword
>Meme
>Cuck
Generic would be completely legitimate to you if it weren't being used against you.
Used to smoke and drink a lot. Picked up anime and easily kicked both habits.
I'm probably worse off though...
>>26080231
Thanks, and btw gb did 9/11
>>26080210
I mean that those shows are what they are because they are anime, not because they make use of Western culture. The settings are window dressing compared to everything else. Samurai Champloo is a companion work to Cowboy Bebop and the two are very similar even though one takes place in Space America and the other in feudal Japan.
>>26080231
It has lost its meaning and has become a buzzword. I'm sorry but if you want to criticize something and expect to be taken seriously by non-idiots you're going to have to work a little harder.
Anime is made by mostly non-virgins and mostly watched by non-virgins just like all entertainment (and almost everything else).
Watching anime is alright if you like it but it's not any less normalfaggotry to watch that obscure shit than watching attack on Titan or how I met your mother.
>>26080263
>it has lost it's meaning
BASED ON WHAT ANON?
You aren't working hard at all to explain why it's lost it's meaning.
I don't hear people throwing the word generic around unfairly at all.
When's the last time you saw someone describe texhnolyze as generic?
YOU CAN ONLY USE THE WORD "GENERIC" ON SOMETHING WITH COMMON, OVER-USED TRAITS. Generic also describes a certain degree of unoriginality.
Moe has become it's own damn genre by now.
According to your definition most series I like are "moe" because they make me feel euphoric.
I guess Detroit Metal City is moe right?
You're a fool for trying to deny that the word "moe" has no connection to cute anime girls.
>>26080302
Japan actually has some significant issues with people not having sex, and there's an abnormally high number of adult virgins.
But regardless, normies only watch SOME anime. There's a great deal of anime that they either refuse to watch or don't know exists (or both). Even a lot of people who call themselves anime fans refuse to watch many shows because they consider them too abnormal and offensive.
>>26080308
>BASED ON WHAT ANON?
Based on people using it over, over, over, over and over again without any explanation to attack anything and everything. It's just an intellectual cop-out or placebo.
You're furiously defending the word because it's all you have. You can't come up with anything else. All you can do is point at something and say it's "generic."
>Moe has become it's own damn genre by now.
In a way, but the definition is very narrow and can only be correctly applied by open-minded and knowledgeable people (so that rules out 99% of people who watch anime).
>According to your definition most series I like are "moe" because they make me feel euphoric.
Moe is a response to a character.
>You're a fool for trying to deny that the word "moe" has no connection to cute anime girls.
At no point did I claim that it has no connection to them. In fact I specifically said the exact opposite.
what a dumb thread, holy shit. OP just watch bebop and go from there.
>>26080381
>Based on people using it over, over, over, over and over again without any explanation to attack anything and everything. It's just an intellectual cop-out or placebo.
No it is not you fucking twat.
IF SOMETHING IS BEING DONE SO MANY TIMES BEFORE AND THE SERIES IS JUST A VARIATION OF IT.
THAN IT IS FUCKING GENERIC.
Seriously I'm going to sleep. you're an idiot.
MOESHIT IS LITERALLY GENERIC.
There are so many shows with cute female characters in anime.
There are so many shows that revolve around a female cast in anime.
Moe is fucking huge in anime.
It is so fucking common.
I'm not going to argue with your nonsensical definitions of what "moe" is.
You condemning all other genre of anime because it doesn't have cute girls who make you feel fuzzy inside (MOE), and doesn't have 1 male character having a horde of bitches on his dick (Harem) is irredeemable.
The kinds of anime you like (moe, harem) are generic shit, and that is why you say generic is a buzzword.
Just be honest with yourself.
Goodnight.
Watch good shows. Avoid haremshit and fighting shows targeting a younger audience. Start with classics like Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and whatever others I'm forgetting. Then look up your favorite genre or other popular shows from previous years.
Samus a cute
>>26080381
>Based on people using it over, over, over, over and over again without any explanation to attack anything and everything. It's just an intellectual cop-out or placebo.
You're furiously defending the word because it's all you have. You can't come up with anything else. All you can do is point at something and say it's "generic."
I think he just wants to watch more unique shows than you do.
I'm curious what is some of your favorite anime series?
>>26080381
What shows do you even watch?
Let's see if they are actually generic or not.
>>26080381
When you say normalfags do you just mean socially successful people with normal mainstream tastes?
Weird people are usually normalfags too, pretty much everyone in all subcultures has friends and sex.
>>26080446
>IF SOMETHING IS BEING DONE SO MANY TIMES BEFORE AND THE SERIES IS JUST A VARIATION OF IT.
>THAN IT IS FUCKING GENERIC.
When people are calling something generic, it might be an unremarkable variation. It also might NOT be, and the critic might not even be familiar with the work in question. And seeing as how mecha anime is never accused of being generic, it's obvious that this farce has nothing to do with the dictionary definition of generic.
Generic is a meaningless catch-all attack that communicates nothing and is used by people who don't know what they're talking about.
>MOESHIT IS LITERALLY GENERIC.
Moeshit is literally a meme and doesn't exist. It's actually hilarious how pointless your statement is. Something that does not exist is something that has no meaning. Wow.
>There are so many shows with cute female characters in anime.
>There are so many shows that revolve around a female cast in anime.
>Moe is fucking huge in anime.
>It is so fucking common.
Male characters are common. High school settings are common. Mecha are common. Super powers are common. Comedies are common. Action is common. Certain character archetypes and plots are common. A lot of things are common. What's your point?
>I'm not going to argue with your nonsensical definitions of what "moe" is.
There's nothing nonsensical about it.
>You condemning all other genre of anime
I never did anything of the sort.
>The kinds of anime you like (moe, harem) are generic shit, and that is why you say generic is a buzzword.
I say it's a buzzword because it is a buzzword. It doesn't mean anything. Case in point: you are saying that Madoka Magica, K-On, Girls und Panzer, Non Non Biyori, Tesagure Bukatsumono, Gunslinger Girl, Monogatari and Kanon are all generic (all of them could be defined as moe). But they're actually nothing alike.
I never thought I see days where people hated anime on 4chan.
>>26080576
>Madoka Magica, K-On, Girls und Panzer, Non Non Biyori, Tesagure Bukatsumono, Gunslinger Girl, Monogatari and Kanon
Dont tell me you're one of those faggots who just watches anime with girls in it?
Is that all moe fucking is, a show with cute girls in it? KEK.
That is literally the only thing they have in common.
Why dont you just say you like shows with cute anime girls?
I'm going to ignore the definition of "moe" and "generic".
Let's focus on the biggest flaw of your point of view.
You think anime is cringeworthy if its:
>cool
>deep
>serious
>epic
>dramatic
And this is why I have the problem with you. You only want to watch shows with cute girls and fan-service. You limit yourself.
Ironically you condemn thought provoking series, yet if a series has cute girls in it (madoka magica) you're all for it being deep and thought provoking.
Sorry anime shouldn't just be about cute girls (moe) and fanservice (harem).
You're disgraceful for even thinking that way.
>>26080576
>I never did anything of the sort.
>>26079795
>>26080471
>Watch good shows.
How do you know a show is good without watching it? Well, you don't. So really, you're saying he should just watch what other people have already pre-selected for him.
>Avoid haremshit
BUZZWORD.
Do not avoid haremshit, moeshit, shounenshit or any other -shit. Watch shows for yourself, make up your own mind, and ignore target demographics and genres.
One of the reasons the Western anime community is so fucked and dysfunctional is because people aren't allowed to make up their own minds about anything and judge things on their own merits. Everyone's relentlessly pushing their memes and buzzwords and agendas on newcomers.
I'm glad I never had any contact with other anime viewers when I was starting out.
>>26080484
>>26080497
Some shows I like: Serial Experiments Lain, Steins;Gate, Hidamari Sketch, OreImo, Soremachi, Haruhi, To Heart, Haibane Renmei, Kanon, Burn Up, You're Under Arrest, Tesagure Bukatsumono, Yuru Yuri, Tatami Galaxy, Watamote, Non Non Biyori, Azumanga, Shirobako, Patlabor, Noragami, Natsuiro Kiseki, Monogatari, iDOLM@STER, Gunslinger Girl... I don't maintain any list of favorites.
>>26080613
Newfaggot detected. People have ALWAYS hated anime on 4chan
>>26080634
Yo Madoka is a great anime, goes out to more to the weird moe fans. I'm also Gen Urobutcher cocksucker and like anything he's written.
>>26080694
>>26080694
>one of your favorite anime is Serial Experiments Lain
>"Anime is only good for comedy or cuteness."
You're a dumb cunt you know that.
You brought this argument on by talking shit that you didn't even believe to begin with.
I'm guessing this comment was you just being a retard?>>26079795
>>26080725
Nope, you could talk about anime without dozens of autists raging about it on every board before 2-3 years ago. This amount of people bitching about anime is a new thing.
>>26080634
>Dont tell me you're one of those faggots who just watches anime with girls in it?
I've been noticing this really fucking strange trend on 4chan. Whenever I list some anime as examples to make some point, people almost always fail to understand what point I'm making or pretend they don't understand, even if it's very clear what the point is. This really does keep happening again and again.
In this case we were talking about moe anime, and I listed a bunch of anime that can be defined as moe. This shouldn't be difficult to understand.
>Is that all moe fucking is, a show with cute girls in it? KEK.
As I said, it can be defined as a show that heavily focuses on bishoujo characters in a way that can't reasonably be accounted for by genre, target demographic or setting. It's not a very rigorous definition, and obsessing over labels and definitions mostly serves to obscure and mislead anyway.
>That is literally the only thing they have in common.
That was exactly my point.
>Why dont you just say you like shows with cute anime girls?
Did I ever say I don't? Did I ever try to hide the fact that I like them?
>You think anime is cringeworthy if its:
No, because I never made that post.
>Ironically you condemn thought provoking series
Do I really?
>>26080668
Not my post.
>>26080746
I never said anime is only good for comedy or cuteness.
>>26080792
>it's not my post.
Then why the fuck did you but in when I said this?>>26079872
God damn bastard. You just made this an entirely confusing situation.
Next time you reply to a post directed at one person mention that you aren't the person I directed the comment towards.
This fucking dumb annoying argument could of been avoided if you would have clarified.
I still think generic is a fair description of anime with very common tropes and an overused plotline, but I'm truly mad at this fucking retard.>>26079795
>>26079795
>>26079795
>>26079795
>>26079795
>>26080833
>Then why the fuck did you but in when I said this?>>26079872
I don't know what you're talking about.
>I still think generic is a fair description of anime with very common tropes and an overused plotline
People don't use the word that way, and something isn't even automatically bad just because it has "common tropes" and an overused plot (conversely, something isn't good just because it's original).
>>26080882
This entire exchange has been a big misunderstanding.
>people don't use the word that way
I have always used the word that way.
Yes generic anime can be good, but most aren't.
They usually have to have great dialogue and characters to make up for a generic concept.
>>26080901
Even if you're a snowflake who uses the word that way, other people do not. Because there's no rhyme or reason to how people use it. And thus it means nothing.
>this fucking discussion
>>26078766
>preffering counter strike to anything
Get out Memefag you ruined the Comp system
Watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes
It's pretty dank military space opera with a bit of space politics thrown in. Plus no moeshit or gayshit (unless you consider close male friends to be gayshit)
>>26080634
>Is that all moe fucking is, a show with cute girls in it?
That's the only thing anime can do better than other mediums, eg books and movies.
>I watch anime to be sophisticated and to gain knowledge of the universe and myself
Stay delusional fuckface.
>>26081548
Anime is also pretty good at portraying future technology and other otherworldly shit, since drawing is a lot cheaper and flexible than filming and CGI
It's just a shame that those worlds are full of whiny and/or edgy teenage MCs saving the day with the power of poor writing
The only anime I've ever enjoyed was JoJo, and only the first 2 parts
The rest is shit OP, don't even bother with anime
>>26081610
>The rest is shit OP
I always feel so humbled in the presence of people who've watched thousands of anime.
>>26081668
I can't say I have watched a lot, friends who do watch every animu girl that comes out have recommended me things to watch it the past
If every anime I've tried is the same cringy, poorly written Chinese cartoon that relies on the same character/plot archetypes to please their watchers, I can't help but jump into those conclusions
There are actually good animes outside those standards that are worth watching for me? Maybe, JoJo was a lucky find. But I don't care enough to look on the pile of garbage
>>26080767
You're a confirmed newfaggot
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>>26081784
There's some kind of problem with your discovery process, likely your friends recommending you very similar anime that you don't like. Relying on other people to spoonfeed you anime is never a good idea.
There's been plenty of anime during the current and previous seasons alone that don't revolve around stereotypical plot and character types (or don't do so unironically).
>control + f
>no kaiji
You niggers have shit taste
>>26081578
>HASN'T READ MANGOS
