Posted from my office.
>>25891028
why the fuck dont governments have wages for existing
i shouldnt be forced into being a wage cuck
>>25891052
This is actually achievable for England. All you have to do is get a few more tens of millions of immigrants.
>>25891028
The bums will always lose, lebowski.
>>25891028
>The British government is now shaming NEET's
haha, my sides have left the atmosphere
!!!
They're onto us!
They'll never take our tendies!
The meme magic world and the muggle world are colliding
Glad I'm a wagecuck.
>>25891028
HORRIFIC
BETRAYAL
OF 14,000,000
MANCHILDREN
are people here not aware that the term NEET was coined by the UK government to begin with?
>>25891028
hahaha the witch is still fuck your asses
AND SHES DEAD
>shames people for not working
>say if your so enthusiastic about me working why not offer me a job
>they say they have none
well fuck you
you're the problem here,not me.
>when asked from david, age 26, why he does not want a job he replied that "he is trying to come up with perfect meme and working would hinder this artistic process"
I bet it went like this
>sent 50000 applications
>no one wants them
>they say goodbay to the wish to be a normal worker
cant get a job with no experience, cant get experience cuz no job.
force the employers to hire me and make me entitled to the job by defualt and a living wage and your problem will be solved. no? then go fuck yourself, the system is shit. i hope society collapses.
>>25891408
>>25891403
>hello, sir, says here you want a job. what are your qualifications?
>n-nothing
>well what can you do? what skills do you have?
>i... i kinda know c-computers... and stuff... you know
>do you mean programming and networks?
>no, just... computers... like browsers and emails and such
>okay, we'll call you later, good day
>b-but i didnt leave my number! hello?
Every time anyone posts one of these "woe is me, no one will hire me, why even bother" threads, I post advice on how to make a living without needing to get hired anywhere. It requires no specific skills or talents, just imagination and energy. But every time I post, I'm completely ignored. It can't be any more obvious that the reason you people are NEETs is because you're fucking *lazy*. Even if jobs were falling from the sky, you'd still be lying in fucking bed playing Mario League or whatever the fuck it is you people play.
>>25891137
They've been doing it for years
>500k NEETs
>nothing is being done to change it
>500k niggers living off the government
>get more money and "programs" thrown at them
Makes perfect fucking sense
haha wagecucks are mad
keep working for me, faggots
>>25891388
Yeah but we have the Falklands
>>25891028
Come the fuck on, even neetbux has tax, why is the guberment whining?
>>25891625
Tell us your methods. I'm willing to try them
>>25891625
It also requires start up capital which NEETs don't have.
>>25891677
Sorry to break it to you but a lot of those NEETs are niggers too, white people generally do any kind of shit job and earn a living no matter how small, but they still do work.
>>25891812
>white people generally do any kind of shit job and earn a living no matter how small
I think you are confusing white people with mexicans.
>>25891802
Sell tin cans for a month.
![1451487213626[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/aRBK2jp.png "1451487213626[1].png")
>>25891625
Is your method perchance saving money for a year, than risking it all on an investment that may or may not pay off in a decade?
>>25891794
>>25891802
Alright, I'll try this again. You need to *hustle*. Hustling is how you make money on the street. It means being creative and turning a quick buck on the grey market by finding or creating a market and then getting in and getting out quickly, then switching to something else. The important thing is always to keep an eye out for the main chance and jumping on it quickly.
For example, I was in Vancouver and happened to spot a whole bin full of leather belts on sale at Army & Navy for 50 cents. I bought the whole bin for $20. I had an itinerant's license for occasions just like that one (for which I paid $75 a year) which gave me the right to sell things door to door. I took the belts and sold all of them for $5 each in an afternoon. Then I took the money I made from the belts and made a bulk purchase of incense for 15 cents a pack, which I then sold door to door in the student ghetto for 75 cents a pack or three for two dollars. I managed to turn $20 into abour $350 in the space of two days.
I do stuff like that all the time. I made my living from that for years. All it takes is some initiative and creativity. And what's more, it's all cash, so there's no tax to pay. It's not as easy as punching a cash register and having someone hand you a paycheque, but it *anyone* can do it.
>>25891865
And the only reason those Mexicans do shit jobs is so they can send 90% of the pay back to Mexico.
>>25891028
>no source
>posted from my office
Let me guess, you have a home office, right?
>>25891916
now try doing that in the US and you'll end up beaten/dead and all your shit will be stolen thanks to niggers.
>>25891916
That's a decent idea. Where I live, door-to-door sales are very uncommon so I don't know how people would react (most probably in a negative way). Do you think an online shop will work (maybe selling things on etsy or ebay)?
NEET for 3 years here. I wouldn't even know how to look for a job.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3098467/British-Neets-numbering-500k-don-t-want-work.html
Lol its real
>>25891980
retail will hire anybody as long as you can pass a drug test
>>25891955
No. See, hustling works because you are creating a tiny market no one else has exploited, and then emptying it out. If you want to sell shit on eBay you're going to be competing with thousands of other people. The whole idea behind hustling is to avoid competition by doing something no one else is doing. Like you said, no one does door to door sales any more. If you know your market, you can exploit it. For example, I knew students were likely to buy incense, were likely to be willing to open their doors to a stranger, and wouldn't mind spending a couple of bucks on an impulse buy.
You don't need to sell stuff door to door, but you need to do it in a way no one else is doing. Make your own homemade air fresheners in mason jars in unusual scents like beer or coffee (you can find recipes on Pinterest) and sell them at flea markets. Buy a batch of janitorial cleaning supplies wholesale and sell them to businesses. Those are both things I've done and made a lot of money with, so I can guarantee it works. Be creative.
>>25891950
Yeah, I was trying to imagine this working in big city 'Murica. It won't work.
>>25892017
Thanks, mate. I've always wanted to make my own perfumes, so I'll try experimenting with that first
I feel for the ones lumped in with the rest who legitimately try and are actually able but just get declined for someone who had that few hours a week job.
Where I work now being my first proper job, I excelled quickly (chef) just because I was so sick of not having work and tried my best when I finally got one.
And it is fucking shocking how many people who have supposed experience can just come in and be total shit. And whats more horrible is that they're usually old people who probably should have retired or found a better line of work then entry level pay.
I really tried to help one girl who just joined as her first job, I am quite hands on with new people and insist on teaching until they're comfortable but nope, the older employees wouldn't let me get in on a shift, they didn't tell her what to do and made a conclusion on that alone they were shit.
>>25891916
incense? man some people in van are fucking stupid i get the belt selling tho if they were nice
fair enough
>>25892062
I do have a couple of pieces of advice. First, not everything is going to work, so never blow your whole wad on a single scheme; always keep enough back so you can try something else. And second, stay small. The capitalists don't care if you nibble around the edges, but if you find something really profitable, the temptation will be to go back to the well a second and third and fourth time. Don't. The capitalists will use taxes and bylaws and zoning and police and the courts to shut your ass down. Always take a small bite, then move on, so you don't attract too much attention to yourself.
>>25891812
I'm white and neet, not a drop of nigger in my blood
>had job for a year that I only got through a friend
>nobody after me got a job at the place I work since it was a small place
>new year days rolls along
>"sorry to do this anon but we have to let you go"
>ask why
>"we're on a tight budget at the moment and have to make sacrifices, you don't have as much experience compared to [others who worked there 2-3 years]"
>manager says "don't worry, we'll be happy to put down that you weren't fired but let go so other employers will know why you aren't working at the moment"
>get back to the job hunt
>3 interviews
>both ask me why I left my previous job
>explain my situation and told them to call manager if they need clarification
>"no that's alright, I think we got what we need to, thank you for your time"
>they think i'm talking shit and actually got fired from last place
>get no call backs when they said they would keep in touch
Fuck this
>>25892527
>both
All*
That was a big fuck up, point still stands
>>25892527
I read a forbes article that said after interviewing Hiring managers they found out being unemployed for too long is as likely to have you disqualified for a job as having a criminal record.
>>25891028
>people don't want to be slaves
>how DARE they!!!!
what the fuck is wrong with normies?
>>25892646
I was out for about a week before going back into the wage hunt, if this is expected then there's no point going back if i'll be treated like a criminal.
>>25892753
>week
well we are talking months here there before it become a blotch on your record.
>>25892527
Are you sending thank you letters? I'm in a similar situation, my contract ended and I just didn't get re-hired. Maybe you should phrase your employment there as a temporary thing and your employment simply ended. I'd end talking about it by emphasizing what you learned there and your enthusiasm to gain more experience. It helps a lot that you have a good reference, I was lucky in that as well. It was only three interviews, I went through 3 for just one company and then wasn't called back after the last one. Feels horrible but you just have to keep trying, it's a numbers game 100%. Just realize, as an HR major, this isn't anything against you personally. You are one among hundreds of applicants to weed through, it's all a game of phrasing shit right and going through the right hoops.
>>25892017
You're talking about some serious nickle and dime shit. Homeless people and drug addicts do that here.
>>25892771
>Are you sending thank you letters?
not him, but I burn all my bridges.
>>25892752
>working for wages
>slavery
spoken like a true r9k manboy.
>>25891916
Being a successful salesman requires good social skills more than anything else. Where do you think we are?
>>25892825
mr. shecklestein wants those reports by 3
you'd better get back to work
>>25892812
It's literally what Bubbles on the Wire did for dope money.
>>25892862
You realize, one day you're going to wake up too old to start a career. Your little meme won't be so funny then.
They have found the light and wish not to return to slavery
>>25892879
It's not like we're NEETs "just for now", this is a lifetime attitude of actually enjoying ourselves and fulfilling our purpose by following our passions, instead of being a wageslave. It's not just a word; you're actually slaves.
We're not.
>>25892822
Not sending a properly formatted thank you letter/cover letter makes you look like an idiot. Having a nicely formatted resume and going through the employment hoops pays off more than half-assing it. A closed door isn't always closed. Besides, you should send the thank-you letter after the interview/before you know their decision regardless
>>25892941
yeah, it's not even a good joke any more. Get some new material.
>>25892957
I've worked in the employment industry for over a decade. I look at 100s of resumes a day. I've never read a cover letter.
>>25892967
I wasn't making a joke, I was just emphasizing the reality of the actual situation.
>>25892999
>I wasn't making a joke
ironically thats the punchline isn't it?
>>25892999
take some of your free time, and write some new material.
>>25892856
You have a point. I feel like your everyday robot would freeze at the first sight of a female customer, lol.
>>25893020
It's like watching Carrot Top in Branson, MO or something at this point. It hasn't been funny for months.
>>25891982
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3098467/British-Neets-numbering-500k-don-t-want-work.html
Read the fucking comments, oh god
>>25891403
>here sir we have this job for you serving customers an--
>B-BUT THATS SO BELOW ME!!
>well what can you do?
>...S-SO BENEATH ME!!!
Can't complain if you bring nothing to the table and demand a slice of pie.
When I graduated college, it took me all of two days to find a job.
Stop being fat. Stop being socially retarded. Learn how to dress yourself. If you live in E. Bumfuck, you might have to relocate. It's really not that hard.
>>25892941
>It's not just a word; you're actually slaves.
>you're actually slaves
>slaves
>>25893071
>b-but I've got a fat ass a-and memes.
>>25893081
>graduated college in 2008
>go up to eight interviews a week in hopes of getting hired
>2016, still haven't found a single job
Not everyone is as privileged as you.
>>25892879
>>25892967
>>25893020
are you just bitter because you're a slave and I'm not?
I understand you're envious of my life but there are better ways to express your anger
maybe you should take up painting for a hobby
oh wait you can't because you're life is dedicated to working a soulcrushing job you hate and you're too tired and exhausted from your days work that any free time you have is spent resting, getting enough rest for the next work day and the cycle repeats itself
don't worry, maybe by the time you're 40 you'll be able to afford that 2 weeks vacation, better put in the overtime though!
>>25893091
Don't even debate their moron philosophy.
Just make fun of them for being wack ass shit redundant comedians.
>>25892985
OK? Your experience =/= every employer. It really depends on the industry and even the company when it comes to doing this, but it's much better to do it than to not.
>>25893024
or misunderstandings due to not knowing social cues and shit
I once did an odd job for my uncle to advertise a mom and pop cafe he had opened up,
due to misunderstandings I ended up accidentally asking a girl out to a date
didn't realize until moments later that she misinterpreted what I said as asking her for a date.
>>25893113
>privileged
I think I've found the root of the problem.
>>25893042
>It hasn't been funny for months.
are you implying carrotop was funny at some point in time?
>>25893117
Here is a hilarious pic of a man slipping on a banana peel. Just 4 u!
>>25893113
... Okay how much of a socially incompetent asshole do you have to be for not even one HR manager since 2008 to bother giving you a chance?
Hint: it's not systematic injustice here. Its you.
>>25893134
No one reads the cover letters senpai. It's not even realistic from a time stand point.
>>25893118
>Don't even debate their moron philosophy.
I've actually done that before. It boils down to us not being able to agree on objective facts and reality. It's quite similar to talking to someone in a cult.
>Just make fun of them for being wack ass shit redundant comedians
To be honest, these people make me sad. Not only are they living in denial, but think of their parents.
>fucked up story, bro
>>25893160
thanks
now you'd better get to bed
don't want to be late tomorrow!
>>25893176
>Hint: it's not systematic injustice here. Its you.
ding ding ding
we have a winner!
>>25893113
Eight interviews in eight years?
Wow, you're really pounding the pavement anon.
>>25893176
actually if (s)he's been this incapable of finding a job for years, it probably is because of some kind of prejudice on the hirers' part (disability, race, social ineptitude, etc). it happens to a lot of people, sometimes without whoever is rejecting them realising it. some people just have certain characteristics that results in them getting discriminated against on a regular basis.
>most NEETs are sleeping, studying or exercising right now
>wagecucks are shitposting from work or wasting their few hours of freedom to defend their honor on an anime image board
>>25893193
OMG. That's so funny! Did you think of that on your own?
>>25891137
>the government writes news stories
>>25893223
PUHleeze. It's 100% you, and social ineptitude isn't a disability. Grow up.
>>25893113
I graduated with an electrical engineering degree ,2 year later I managed to get a jobas a dishwasher
for some reason I'm suppose to be grateful for this.
>>25893071
I really do feel bad for people in the UK, minimum wage zero hour contracts to work in a horrible depressing factory, pure (low) commission door to door shilling for the BBC.
If those were my options I'd be a NEET as well, at least then you can read, go for walks, and maintain your mental health.
>>25891028
I love the tone of panic in this article.
>What the fuck, they aren't even looking for jobs!
>Th-they don't even WANT to work!!
>P-please don't stray from the path! Get a job and contribute!
>>25893224
if neets are studying, why are so many of them illiterate and without skill?
>>25893259
>be electrical engineer
>wash dishes for a living
What the fuck are you doing?
>>25893259
Guys, I know with BSEEs from decent schools get jobs in days for good money. Can you code? How fat/retarded are you?
>>25893280
>falling for 0/10 bait
>>25893243
1). that's the same logic we throw at rape victims. whatever misfortunate one experiences must be brought on by them in one way or another.
2). even if it's on them, it's still discrimination through-and-through if multiple individuals are actively rejecting you for it.
3). it is a disability because it incapacitates your ability to function in any given social situation.
4). social ineptitude is a common symptom for a lot of disabilities (schizophrenia, autism, etc).
>>25892200
>If you get successful enough to start a small business make sure you stop
lmao
>>25893259
If you're in the US, there's an explanation for that:
- We have a too many people with STEM degrees, but not enough STEM jobs, in this country. Hence most of them won't be able to land a career in their respective field.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-the-us-produce-too-m/
>>25893297
C'mon at least post one of those hiiiillllarious frog in a blanket pics.
>>25893308
>muh conditions
You're liberal rhetoric and made up conditions are going to lead you to being broke and miserable. The real world isn't tumblr. No one that bullshit carries any weight.
>>25893284
>What the fuck are you doing?
I'm washing dishes anon, that is what I'm doing
that is what society has decided I should do.
>>25893289
>Can you code? How fat/retarded are you?
pretty fat I guess, but I can benchpress my own weight so strong fat maybe?
I like to think i have above average intelligent but my gpa took a massive hit from failing a lot of classes in the beginning despite my last semester being a 4.0 it all evened out to a 2.78 GPA which no one told me before that having less than a 3.0 GPA essentially makes my a degree a useless piece of paper, if I had known this earlier I would have dropped out like I wanted to in the beginning.
>>25893327
This is 100% not true. What do you think we're importing all those H1s for. Right now demand is exceeding supply.
>>25893358
>You're liberal rhetoric and made up conditions are going to lead you to being broke and miserable.
because the odds are often set against people with said conditions. no matter how hard they work to try otherwise (and fail nonetheless).
>>25893268
More like
>We put out all this welfare for people to use when they're in between jobs or just can't get a job
>But hang on a moment, there's huge amounts of people abusing this by using it as a long term source of income instead of just when you're in between jobs or looking for one
>Holy shit, they really are leeching off our system by the thousands
>This was not what this welfare was meant to do
Next step is probably for them to demand that they do what they're already doing here in Finland where you have to be an active job seeker and actively participate in job seeking related activities before you can get welfare. We also cut off people's welfare if they decline job offers.
>>25893327
big companies spread the STEM meme in an effort to saturate the market and depress wages, people are only waking up to this now.
>>25893381
>pretty fat
Shocker. Looks matter. Loose weight and you'll get a job.
>>25893327
>cost of a degree is going up
>value of a degree is going down
>>25893392
Because STEMers from foreign countries are seen as more desirable and valuable than American grown.
>Right now demand is exceeding supply.
Yet not enough positions to adequately satiate it.
>>25893327
>http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/does-the-us-produce-too-m/
>article about PhD grads in hard sciences
>arguing that applies to all levels of all STEM degrees
I see you're functionally illiterate.
>>25893394
Those conditions aren't real. Anyone willing to pay a therapist can get diagnosed with that bullshit. If you're looking to make an excuse, it's an easy one to make. But I promise, the world doesn't care. Get your shit together, or you'll wind up unsuccessful and unhappy.
>>25893261
Assuming you're american, your country isn't exactly any better, america is great if you're rich/upper class but it's a shithole of a country if you're poor.
>>25891028
yes, let us publicly shame instead of actually helping them
surely that is more efficient
>>25893404
In the US a lot of places are going to require public service work as a condition from public assistance.
These people are going to wind up working one way or the other.
i'd be willing to bet that western governments won't just let this slide and sweep it under the rug like japan does
there will be a time where they come for the NEET to force them into labour
>inb4 tories create a new working class, NEETs will have to pick up rubbish and do community service like cleaning up dog shit etc.
>>25893448
>trying to help those who don't want it
>>25893422
More than enough positions. We can't fill our low level development jobs. If you have a BSCS or a BSEE and can code, the world is your oyster. Move to NYC or SF. You'll be making six figures by the time you're 25.
>>25893434
>Those conditions aren't real.
You have entire scientific fields and plethoras of research saying otherwise.
>Anyone willing to pay a therapist can get diagnosed with that bullshit.
Which would only further validate said bullshit.
>If you're looking to make an excuse, it's an easy one to make.
You can say the same thing about a woman too traumatised from a rape to leave her house.
>But I promise, the world doesn't care.
Hence part of the prejudice people with these conditions face.
>Get your shit together, or you'll wind up unsuccessful and unhappy.
They would if they could. If they were truly capable of that, this wouldn't be a problem, and we wouldn't be discussing that.
>>25893441
Canadian actually, I feel bad for Americans too.
>>25893327
That article talks about SCIENTISTS, not STEM in general. STEM does stand for "Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics" meaning that this only applies to 1 of the 4 groups in STEM.
>>25893381
>that is what society has decided I should do
>giving up your own agency
You sound like a modfem. Take control of your own life, man.
>>25893473
>shaming them sure is better
>>25893471
That sounds kind of glorious, doesn't it? Imagine the moaning from UK cucks pissed off about having to walk around in overalls, brushing cigarette buts into a dustpan all day.
>>25893474
>If you have a BSCS or a BSEE and can code, the world is your oyster.
Unfortunately you have a lot of people with such qualifications who are still having a hard time finding a job.
>Move to NYC or SF.
Those two cities have been overly-competitive for years (NYC competitively in virtually any job you can find there). Places like Athens, GA would be better since it's still just catching on.
>You'll be making six figures by the time you're 25.
Only the top few percentages will achieve this. Everyone else would be closer to a middle-class salary.
>>25893476
>scientific
Kek. Psychology isn't science. It's a racket.
>Which would only further validate said bullshit.
You're not very bright. It does the opposite.
>You can say the same thing about a woman too traumatised from a rape to leave her house.
kek
>Hence part of the prejudice people with these conditions face
>muh conditions
Again, the world doesn't care about your liberal bullshit. It's hot air. Maybe it's worth a slight bit of political capital, but no one is going to make a decent living with that nonsense.
Grow up.
>>25893392
man Trump may be a buffoon but if he is serious about ending visa abuse then I may just end up voting for him.
>>25893537
I live in NYC and work in employment. If you're young, have a BSCS or a BSEE, speak English, and aren't some sort of fat ass or autistic retard, you'll get a job easily.
Mediocre people from state schools make six figures by that age ALL THE TIME. You don't have to be some sort of elite talent.
man fuck the job market, i bough in to that shit of employment, i have 10 years worth of experience and even i can get hire stacking selves, im think about going native and taking up a hunter lifestyle, plenty of fresh air, no bullshit, eat when hungry, no need for employment, the world economy is fucked.
>>25893512
Where in that article is there shaming involved?
Besides, what the fuck do you expect from society? A kiss goodnight and a marshmallow in a hot cocoa?
Nobody's getting special treatment in this day and age.
The sad thing about neets is that they all think that their "real lives" will start some day, and that being a shut in loser is just temporary, when in fact they are wasting away their "real lives" right now and even if they do get to a point where they might be able to start a "real life" they may have gotten too old to be able to take advantage of it.
>>25893474
>If you have a BSCS or a BSEE and can code, the world is your oyster
but I do a have an EE degree and code
and now I work minimum wage, stop spreading this BS meme
>Been out of work since 2010
I hope this Autism specialist I'm about to see says I do have Autism if not I'm fugged
>>25893471
>>25893516
They already did this. Every NEET on /r9k/ got out of doing it because they can all claim either depression or autism. Get BTFO wagecucks
>>25893542
>Psychology isn't science.
psychology - n - the scientific study of the human mind and its functions, especially those affecting behavior in a given context.
Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=define:psychology
You're also forgetting neurology, psychiatry, various bits of anthropology, etc.
>It does the opposite.
Having professional scientists in the field diagnose you with a certain condition only validates it.
>Again, the world doesn't care about your liberal bullshit. It's hot air.
The world doesn't care for those with conditions and inabilities they cannot help. They either feel apathy for it, or straight up antipathy. Hence many of the problems they face as a regularity. Discrimination including.
>but no one is going to make a decent living with that nonsense.
Because they're living in a world that doesn't let them.
>>25893566
We'd be fucked. Despite all of the Americans complaining, they're not willing to go through the education these positions require.
I can't even remember the last time I saw an American born PeopleoSoft developer for example.Or Oracle middleware developer. And a lot of those people make $150hr.
We did the same thing with MDs in the 60s. We imported them from all over the world.
American kids are too soft to do the academic work.
>>25893604
Exactly. These arrogant assholes think you start at the top, and are unwilling to do the hard work you have to do to build a career.
>>25893576
You're still only seeing the minorities (literal minorities -- not racial or gender) in this field. Also, confirmation bias.
>You don't have to be some sort of elite talent.
It sometimes comes down to being in the right place at the right time. Or in most hiring scenarios, being likable enough for employers to want you on board.
>>25893606
Where do you live? Are you fat? Did you do an internship?
>>25891916
>And what's more, it's all cash, so there's no tax to pay
not here in america. We may have gotten away from taxation without representation, but don't you dare do anything without being taxed
you can't even have a garden without the IRS getting up your ass about an agriculture tax
>>25893636
>actually wanting to live on meager benefits, eatting super noodles and frozen meals to reheat.
>Not realising it's not gonna last forever and you'll eventually enter into a job market with a crater in your resume, restricting your jobs to retail and fast food.
Either that or suicide from depression, like I've said before, it's a slavish experience.
>>25893641
>We'd be fucked
oh no, large corporations won't be able to get rich on cheap outsourced labor whatever shall we do!?
>>25893679
texas
yes
no (not from lack of trying but it seem every internship I applied to had 3.0 GPA was a requirment)
>>25893639
When psychology adheres to the scientific method get back to me.
Since it's inherently subjective, it's easy to get diagnosed with any 'condition'. That's why it's not worth anything.
Again, you're blowing a lot of hot air that isn't worth anything outside of academia. No one is interested in what you can't do.
>>25893641
>$150/hr
>$288k/yr @ 40 hours per week
I think you're confusing the hourly rate they charge with how much they actually make.
>>25893668
I literally gotten around 250 resumes a day. I probably do 5 interviews a day. I've done that for the last decade.I'm not one to blow my own horn, but I probably qualify as an expert.
I promise you success is a lot more than luck.
>>25893686
while I think it would be deliciously ironic for the thing that puts the boot on corporate greed being a republican billionaire, I doubt trump actually means half the shit he says.
>>25893698
Again, YOU CAN"T BE FAT. Looks matter. If you're fat, you're literally not fit to compete. This is your own fault.
>>25893734
If they're 1099 consultants (like most of them are) that's what they actually make.
>>25893709
>When psychology adheres to the scientific method get back to me.
That's all it's ever done.
- http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homepage/class/psy301/Delville/Classes/September3Stats/Index.html
In fact, a lot of the scientific methods used in psychology have influenced other fields.
>Since it's inherently subjective, it's easy to get diagnosed with any 'condition'.
Hence one of the reasons it's the harder of the sciences. But it sounds like you're thinking of therapeutic psychology instead.
>That's why it's not worth anything.
Generalisation.
>Again, you're blowing a lot of hot air that isn't worth anything outside of academia.
Academia being one of the most important things in society.
>No one is interested in what you can't do.
Again, another reason why people get discriminated against.
>>25893709
>b-b-but I'm a unique snowflake
>When psychology adheres to the scientific method get back to me.
You wouldn't recognize the scientific method even if your life depended on it.
I bet Dawkins is your hero too.
>>25893709
>When psychology adheres to the scientific method get back to me.
i can't remember the last time i took psychology where it didn't use the scientific method. even 101 makes it abundantly clear the sm used in experiments.
>>25893767
>That's all it's ever done.
Nonsense.Psychology often does not meet the five basic requirements for a field to be considered scientifically rigorous: clearly defined terminology, quantifiability, highly controlled experimental conditions, reproducibility and, finally, predictability and testability.
Again, grow up. You're not going to rhetoric your way around work.
>>25893765
>citation needed, motherfucker
>>25893738
Success is mostly work. But you have to be lucky enough to get into that position in the first place.
>>25893782
>not knowing 'the scientific method' is a buzzword used by pseudo-intellectuals with zero scientific credentials to sound like they know their shit
>21 and still no job experience
Applied to every McDonald's and every other fast food place in town, in total giving about 17 apps.
No callbacks or success. Also applied to every retail store, 23 of them. No success. What the fuck do I do now?
>>25893799
Citation? 1099 is a tax term. It's when one corporation pays another corporation directly. It cost a few hundred bucks to incorporate yourself. A lot of the highly in demand tech guys who work on a contractual basis do it this way.
It's more $ and easier to write off you're expenses.
>>25893797
1). There's not one version of the scientific method (a common misconception).
2).
>Psychology often does not meet the five basic requirements for a field to be considered scientifically rigorous: clearly defined terminology, quantifiability, highly controlled experimental conditions, reproducibility and, finally, predictability and testability.
- http://digest.bps.org.uk/2014/09/the-10-most-controversial-psychology.html
also half the problem is an over the top idea that people need to be unbelievable in you skill level in order to perform simple mundane tasks.
>>25893071
>"we have this job where you work beside 14 year old teenagers at mcdonalds"
>>25893822
so basically this guy: >>25893797, >>25893709 ?
>>25893823
A lot of those jobs discriminate against white men. they don't believe you will stay for long, and they're probably right.
>>25893848
srry, to be unbelievable in your level of skill.
>>25893833
I'm not getting into this again.
Good luck with your 'conditions'.
Enjoy poverty.
>>25893873
>I'm not getting into this again.
Because you're wrong.
>>25893832
>1099 is a tax term. It's when one corporation pays another corporation directly.
Yeah, I used Google before replying.
>A lot of the highly in demand tech guys who work on a contractual basis do it this way.
Sure, sure. But the problem is, someone has to pay the piper (insurances, taxes, pensions). So whatever you get can't be more than 30-40% of what you charge the client. This implies the corporation charges the client +$350/hr. This is possible, but I don't see it being anywhere near common.
>>25891028
>neetcucks can't even read the posts on here
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>25893853
That is correct. This is an original post.
>>25893833
Liberals moving the goalposts and changing the definitions of words.
Mind blowing stuff. And no one will hire you retards? I just can't understand why.
>>25893767
>Academia being one of the most important things in society.
Ha. Enjoy making 35k as an Assoc. Prof in a Sociology dept. You're prefect for it. Make in 25 years you'll get tenure.
>>25891137
>daily mail
>the british government
u feeling ok m8
>>25893941
>$3k/mo
>get tenure (read: part-time retirement) as a 40-something
Still better than most or >>>/r9k/.
>>25893941
STEM god here, doing Computer Engineering. It really is. Don't mind the lib arts mongoloids.
>>25893896
>(insurances, taxes, pensions)
I'm selfd employed.
Insurance is $250-800 a month depending.
Taxes you pay one way or the other. Believe me, you come out way better on 1099 than W2.
Pension? Is it 1955? Very few private positions in the modern US get a pension.
No, all I said is that they often charge $150hr. The take home part was of your own creation.These guys are probably taking home about 75% of what they charge the client. They do very well for themselves.
And of course it's not common. No one would pay them $150hr if their skill set was common.
>>25893966
Can't argue with that. Hope you're a liberal looney who enjoys workplace politics.
>>25894008
>No, all I said is that they often charge $150hr. The take home part was of your own creation.
What you said was
>that's what they actually make
>>25891173
Mummmy please dont let them take my GBP
>wahhhh why aren't these slaves working for 7 britbongs an hour for silverstein!!!!
>what are they Lazy!!!!
>>25893289
Gee, this guy is making it pretty clear that you won't get a job if you're fat. You can't be black, short, bald or introverted either. What am I missing? Thanks for telling me.
>>25893404
>six months of unemployment
>not a single call from TET
>money is still rolling in
>welp
>great system ya got
Now, before you call me a useless shitstain, let me say my situation will be getting a lot worse in the coming months. Your threats are not needed, i'm fucked already. And mind you i do want employment but i have zero belief in my own skills even though i have two fields (of manual labour) to choose from, so the job hunt consists of fighting to pick up the phone to call places.
>>25894038
I mean...semantics. It is what they gross not what they net.
>>25891028
why do normies hate us robots but still vulture from our culture?
>>25894059
People don't OWE you a job. It's competitive.
>>25893308
>Tumblr;the post
Now get the fuck out of here you pink haired, ham planet, stanky pussy having, rage mongering fuck.
>>25893471
I already have to do this to get my NEETbux (it's called "workfare").
I have to work to get benefits, so it works out at like 2 pound per hour. Luckily, it's not year round though.
>>25893848
It's just a way to filter out most applicants so someone's niece or nephew can get hired with no competition.
>>25894098
I made no implications of being "owed" a job. But you're the one that started off saying you got a job in 2 days like it should be so easy for everyone else.
>>25894148
Well then how come your uncles and aunts can't get you a job?
>>25894098
Correct. But everyone's entitled to a decent job.
>>25891950
Always excuses for being a lazy, entitled bitch
>>25894190
That implies he knows people in the business.
But ja, one of the most common ways to bypass all this is by making connections (i.e.: friends) in the industry and have them help get you a job. It's why you see people getting executive positions straight out of college.
>>25893381
>thinking benching you own weight is strong
fucking kek, check this fag out.
>>25894182
Yes Anon, no black or bald people have jobs. Tight strawman.
But I'm not kidding about fat. If you're fat, it's going to SEVERELY hinder your career. Not kidding. 100% serious.
I got a job in 2 days becuase I was ATTRACTIVE to employers. No one is looking to take on your fat ass, or your 'disabilities', or any of your other bullshit.
>>25894220
>decent
inherently subjective.
In a lot of the world, flipping burgers is a decent job.
>>25894098
If by competitive you mean that they only hire pretty girls and minorities, than yes the job market is very competitive. The hardest thing for a white male now is getting a career job.
>>25894190
Most of them have retired. I have like 2 aunts that still work (grocery store and motel receptionist) and neither of them are in a position of influence. In addition I live like 2 hours from either of their work places. My family is poor and have no connections whatsoever.
>>25892239
Then why are you mooching like a nigger?
>>25891028
Are there even jobs for these 500,000 NEETs?
If every one of these NEETs handed in 10 resumes tomorrow what would the success rate be? 5%?
If this is such a "problem" and they're needed in the workforce then why are they denied even entry level work?
>>25894258
>It's why you see people getting executive positions straight out of college.
The definition of 'executive' is loose, but this is pretty much bullshit. No one starts at the top. No one is going to hand their business over to someone w/ no experience.
>>25894265
I wasn't being sarcastic about the "thanks", anon.
>>25892941
>this is a lifetime attitude of actually enjoying ourselves and fulfilling our purpose by following our passions
That's fine, just fund it yourself
>>25894286
Ridiculous. Maybe to some degree in the public sector, but definitely not in the private sector.
"Getting a job is so easy"
Really? How did you get your job?
"Well you see my friend hooked me up....."
>>25894308
>No one is going to hand their business over to someone w/ no experience.
Fathers who own the business do that with their sons all the time. If you have a friend from high up, his word can do a lot for your career.
>>25894308
Nepotism's a bitch, bro.
>>25894367
Well, that's not a job. That's an inheritance. A friend high up, is a referral. Of course, it will help your career. But no one is making you an EVP day 1 at a public company, no matter who you know.
>>25894347
>Really? How did you get your job?
>"Well you see my friend hooked me up....."
More like 300+ job applications and 150+ phone calls, 11 interviews and two job offers. But sure, staying in denial is fine too.
>first job was full time at McDonald's
>quit when I moved states
>a year later and still jobless after countless resumes sent out
>not even McDonald's will hire me
What the fuck man
>>25894293
I don't want to be a mooch, I want to get a job and an educated but nearly every government employee or prospective employer I meet "cringes" and discriminates against me.
I used to do everything society asked of me, I did well in my GCSEs, not so well in my A-levels due to my mother dying, bullying and ADHD-PI but I tried, I went to the job center, I even put off claiming benefits because I was going through a libertarian phase. Now I've given up completely and I have good reason.
I am literally NOT a part of society. Everyone has made that clear, I'd be a complete cuckold to keep trying. Call it an excuse but I don't see why I should continue this futile effort for the rest of my life just to prove I am a good person to people who seem to hate me whatever I do.
You have acted immorally so you can't push some moral burden on me.
>>25894308
"executive" is kind of pushing it, but it's quite common for people with no experience to get better positions than someone working at the company a full twenty years because they have some friends or family in similar positions:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/11503102/Nepotism-has-more-impact-than-ever-on-job-market-Debretts-says.html
bad news for robots. since it basically means having a good social life just to survive.
>>25894432
Oh, of course. Yes, a guy with say a Stamford degree is going to be on a far better career trajectory, than some career middle manger. But they still don't make him head of the department from the jump. That's just ridiculous.
And yes, social life counts. Move out of mommy's house. Ge a GF. Start dressing well. All of that matters.
>>25894489
>Yes, a guy with say a Stamford degree is going to be on a far better career trajectory, than some career middle manger.
Even without a degree you can get a multifigure position via the right connections. The frat boys who spent their college years doing nothing but fighting off hang-overs are going to get a better job than because of this.
>Move out of mommy's house.
Need money to do that. Which means finding a job that pays enough.
>Ge a GF.
That's not going to happen to anyone here.
>Start dressing well.
Won't fix your obesity or ugly face.
>>25891916
Yeah that works in big cities full of people, try living in a small town and sell your gay little belts door to door
>>25893327
>>25893392
You're both right, we have too many with degrees but little or no practical experience in the field. They are importing skilled foreigners because it's cheaper than the OJT needed to ready fresh graduates.
>>25893448
>actually helping them
What would help is making the consequences of not working more dire.
>>25894542
>The frat boys who spent their college years doing nothing but fighting off hang-overs are going to get a better job than because of this.
I am one. My college GPA was like 1.8. BA English. State School. I made 225k my 1st year out.
Again, you're not getting a good job in a public company like that. Those real reason those guys are getting better jobs than you, because they are handsome, and outgoing, and guess what...those are pretty valuable assets in the real world. Guys like us wind up in sales. It's where we belong.
The rest of your post is feeling sorry for yourself.
>>25893512
I'd be willing to increase my tax contribution to neetbux if they were forced to wear something indicating they receive the benefits. Their internet access should be filtered as well.
>>25894718
>>25894718
>I'd be willing to increase my tax contribution to neetbux if they were forced to wear something indicating they receive the benefits.
OMG. That's brilliant. Something like this?
>>25894747
kek. He's even wearing autism shoes.
>>25893882
He's not, but think of how far you could go if you were as tenacious about finding work or going to school as you are arguing about stupid bullshit on the internet.
>>25894417
They always have more excuses.
>>25894604
LMFAO, did you think that being an adult meant you were guaranteed to be able to live and work where you felt like? Jesus Christ the entitlement...
>>25894937
Tell me about it. I honestly think >>>/r9k/ is the male equivalent of tumblr. An unconditional hugbox where all the victims can congregate and exclaim how they've got it harder than the rest of the world. Truth is irrelevant here, only schizo conspiracies now.
>>25893576
>I live in NYC and work in employment. If you're young, have a BSCS or a BSEE, speak English, and aren't some sort of fat ass or autistic retard, you'll get a job easily.
no you cannot, you just spread that lie so that these fields can be saturated more and you can pay them less.
>>25895125
normalfags belong on reddit
why are you here
>>25894431
just leave, you can easily survive on hunting, leaving a society literally has more benefits then staying, imagine waking up every morning to nature.
>>25895125
They've got fake diseases and conditions just like tumblr too. It's pathetic tbqh.
>>25894825
Depending on the person, their conditions, background, etc. probably not very far regardless of work ethic.
>>25895131
E-A-S-I-L-Y. The fields aren't saturated at all. Especially now with San Fran stealing all the tech talent.
>>25894937
ever consider it's probably because these excuses are actually true? and you're seeing a portion of the human population where whatever worked for you and has no chance of working for them?
>>25895208
Sorry, but being fat or having some stupid condition your therapist made up aren't legitimate excuses.
I think the smoking gun in the whole STEM myth is the fact that despite companies saying that there is a dearth of qualified STEM majors in the job market , real wages for STEM major haven't actually risen in decades.
>>25895208
>because these excuses are actually true?
If the excuses were viable enough to keep a person out of work then they should be in a halfway house or group home. Places where they can be assisted in developing themselves or conditioned to join society rather than being mollycoddled.
>>25895231
mental conditions are common disqualifiers from a job (people with mental illness are still the most discriminated against in this culture): http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/542517
and people losing their job over being fat isn't anything new: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/04/obesity-discrimination_n_1939385.html
>>25895249
Exactly. If you have a brain tumor or had your legs blown off in Fallujah, people will understand, and be sympathetic and helpful.
However, no one gives a shit about your 'depression' or 'social anxiety'. Fuck outta here w/ that bullshit.
>>25895168
Amen to that.
>>25895145
Why beat around the bush? Just call me cis-male scum already.
I want to work but I don't get any job offers. Worse is that I haven't seen an interview in ~15 months. Meanwhile people call me lazy and accuse me of playing video games all day.
>>25895298
>Why beat around the bush? Just call me cis-male scum already.
you most likely are some middle class white suburban kid
>>25895249
>If the excuses were viable enough to keep a person out of work then they should be in a halfway house or group home.
or wherever the fuck they want to be.
>Places where they can be assisted in developing themselves or conditioned to join society
or staying with family. either way, they shouldn't be expected to do any of that if they're not willing to.
>>25894335
>do what I say because reasons
so you guys get pissed off at this
>>25893071
and then get pissed off at this
>>25893259
so what what do you want?
>>25895305
don't stress yourself over it. some of us just don't get picked. fuck all the normie redditors in here that say otherwise and abuse any forms of welfare as much as possible until you can find the right job for yourself. fuck struggling, we don't live in a 3rd world country, we don't have to.
>>25895290
mental illness are bullshit.
I'm perfect healthy. I GUARANTEE you, if I wanted to I could get some psychiatrist to diagnose me with 'depression' or 'anxiety' within a month. EASY.
It's huckster bullshit, and the vast majority of people know it.
Fat is just inexcusable. When you hire someone it's a reflection of you and your company. Much like the dating scene, no one with options wants to be associated with a fat ass.
>>25895294
>Fuck outta here
Stop talking like a black person, normie. I know it's the new, hip thing to do, but it's really disgusting.
>>25895358
I have to be stressed. I'll eventually be homeless at this rate.
>>25895294
>tfw on ssi because state believes my depression and anxiety are too severe to make me hirable
Turns out, at least according to SSA, it qualifies for benefits because employers don't like having workers with issues regarding anxiety or depression. Enough so, that some states give tax breaks to businesses hiring disabled people as a means of encouraging them to get into the workforce: https://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Tax-Benefits-for-Businesses-Who-Have-Employees-with-Disabilities
That feel when work 8 hours a day and on call 1 week a month.
I have a 45 minute tea break in the morning then an hour lunch then most days its pretty chilled and I don't do much anyway.
>>25895312
That's a nice guess, but I'm a 27yo engineer from a working-class family.
I made my own way here, and this attitude of
>everyone's got it better than me
>I tried once, and it wasn't worth it
>muh nepotism
>everyone else should feed and support me
fucking disgusts me.
>>25895395
once again leave or drop out, buy a bow and some arrows and live by hunting, better then being homeless.
>>25895377
>mental illness are bullshit.
So is a belief in some kind of god of deity. But that's not going to stop you, now is it?
>I'm perfect healthy. I GUARANTEE you, if I wanted to I could get some psychiatrist to diagnose me with 'depression' or 'anxiety' within a month. EASY.
If true, that certainly explains why you're able to get a job so conveniently because you have some mad con artist skills in your skin.
>It's huckster bullshit, and the vast majority of people know it.
False consensus bias.
>>25895395
where do you live now? parents house or your own place?
>>25893765
Fuck off back to reddit
blob
>>25895426
Try reddit.
It's filled with normies like yourself.
