How old were you when you stopped believing in God, robots?
>>25704811
14-15 years old
~11 and then I found God again when I was 17.
>>25704811
About 17 or 18.
>tfw want to believe again
>>25704839
-1 years old? How??
>>25704811
I never actually believed in him until I was 20.
>>25704811
>Implying I have given up hope
17. I was actually a hard core christfag beforehand too. Really into that. Did all the camps, led all the groups, did all the studying. One day I realized it seemed fucking stupid.
>>25704811
about 13
I was very religious before that, don't remember what caused it
>>25704811
never really believed but me mum forced me to go to church
but was aware it's a fairytale when around 14 i'd say
I never did. I thought it was a fairy tale to make kids behave.
>>25704811
I guess around 13. I was never that devout before then. As soon as I was old enough to ask myself whether I believed in him I knew he wasn't real.
I must've been 11 or 12 when I learned my prayers did nothing. If there is a God, he doesn't care.
>>25704811
Honestly I can't remember, it always seemed to me the same as Santa and the Easter bunny. A fairy tale for kids.
>>25704811
Probably something like 6. Not like I really even believed before that.
>>25704927
B-but a-anon, it is a fairy tale for kids to behave
>>25705025
>B-but a-anon, it is a fairy tale for kids to behave
Actually it's for adults.
>>25704962
He cares.
He actively does ill.
>>25704811
I don't believe I ever did. I never believed in Santa either. My mother never tried to take me to church or anything, she was more new age.
When I was like seven my best friend was Christian and I went with her family once to some Christian rock concert church event or something where they gave us school supplies and bibles and sang about the love of jesus. I liked the music and for a second I tried to get it up for Jesus like it was Pokemon or something. Lasted about a week, I believed it was real in the way that I believed Pokemon were real
difference is, 17 years later I am still playing Pokemon
If there's a God, he's done nothing but create us. He deserves no praise or worship for that. A parent should look after their child.
>>25704811
I was 12
>>25705052
Whatever you say. Not my place to tell you otherwise.
>>25705109
If there's a God
he created robots
thanksfornothing.jpg
>>25704811
>stopped believing in God
underageb&
13, the impetus was a conspiracy by my weiner to hijack my moral compass.
>>25705051
>normies
>adults
Two very different things m8
>>25705157
I know there is a bit of a meme going round 4chan to believe in God and be as conservative as possible.
But if you unironically believe in a Christian, all loving, God, then you are legitimately retarded. Not 4chan retarded, actually retarded. Even an inquisitive child can see religion as a scam. If you believe, not just meme believe, you are less intelligent than a child.
14, became a militant Reddit until l was 17, chilled and now l'm actually an apologetic Athesit
never existence is a lie
I had my doubts at around 7
was unsure what I really believed in around 12
No faith but held out the posablity of God and other related stuff being real at 15
Full on agnostic by age 17
Was agnostic til about a year ago, then I asked my self
>do I believe in god/gods/the supernatural
Instead of
>is it possible that a god like being exist but does not interact with humanity on any measurable level
The answer is no and I been a atheist ever since.
I respect most others religious beliefs and such as long as they are not rude about it, and keep my beliefs to my self for the most part.
I did realize around 14 or so that I really did not have the faith required to sustain belief in any particular religion though.
>>25704811
I've always believed for some reason, family wasn't religious, I was never forced to go to church, I do now out of my own choosing. I think it benefits society to have a moral base that is unchangeable. Without a concrete moral foundation, it would be too subjective to enforce any type of law. Also every atheist is a cultural christian. If a person is truly atheist wouldn't you just be nihilist?
>>25705244
Pascals Wager my friend. I risk eternal damnation compared to eternal salvation. If their is no God at least I lived a life pursing self-control and love.
>>25704811
I never stopped believing in God. I'm 19 now. Just recently I was sitting in traffic and it all hit me again. Looking at the traffic lights and cars and thinking about how advanced they are, but they can't even compare to how complex a single blade of grass is. I honestly don't understand how you can be an atheist. How you can look at all this, the whole universe, and say it wasn't created.
>>25705497
What gets me is that if gravity was slightly lower or higher, no life could have formed as we know it, everything has perfectly come together to form life.
>>25705555
Jesus Christ, quads of truth, somebody call Leonard Susskind so he can add a footnote to The Cosmic Landscape, which has multiple chapters devoted to this topic.
It is a real issue, he explains it as the result of the anthropic principle being realized by way of the multiverse.
>>25704811
I didn't pay attention in church when real little, so I didn't really believe then. And then in sunday school I doubted pretty much immediately.
So I never stoped, because I never started.
>>25704811
>This thread again.
A bunch of retards trying to discuss a rather important topic which requires understanding of both philosophy and science. Wonderful.
Our shitty lives are not an excuse for the non-existence of anything. That being said, whether a god/the supernatural exists is still up in the air.
What most euphoric faggots don't realize is that the base construct of the supernatural is not scientifically invalid. At least according to current understanding.
Interestingly enough, the fact the series of coincidences surrounding "meme magic" actually makes a case against the existence of the construct of god as the unobserved observer. If collective will is capable of affecting reality, then it is collective will that creates reality.
About 19, that's when I started to notice what God did to all those hardcore Christians making them hate fags
>tfw trannys
>have to hide from gf of 6 years
>>25705630
I agree that the Anthropic principle does have validity, however believing in a multiverse takes as much faith as believing in God.
>>25704811
Let me tell you about heartache and the loss of god.
>>25705555
Sources?
I don't see how this would make a difference, unless a slight change would cause everything to form into a blackhole / not allow fusion to happen. And it would have to be 100% one or the other to rule out life as we know it. However not necessarily any variation of life.
>>25704811
what are you talking about uleh, i've just restarted believing in god 3 days ago
>>25705555
Fact: If the earth was 10 ft closer to the sun we would all burn up and if it was 10 feet further we would freeze to death.
God is amazing.
>>25705630
>>25705782
Why does no one have any clue about quantum mechanics?
Do you have any idea what wave particle duality really means?
Schrodinger's cat?
Consciousness creates reality. So of fucking course our universe is going to be compatible with our form of life.
>>25704811
13 or 14 can't remember. I always had my doubts and at that point I finally gave up and realized it was just a way to believe there was hope. You just needed to devote your life to it to the point you were a puppet.
I have my own ways.
>>25705887
I know this is b8, but some poor fools will buy it.
The Earth could be about 30% closer or further away from the sun, and it would still support life. That's about 50 million kilometers of variation.
>>25705887
Thanks republican-christian on facebook. >>25705935
Honestly though do you people devout their whole lives studying to only understand small fractions of these studies. Quantum mechanics is basically quantum philosophy. I am not sure what you are going for with Schrodinger's Cat, I am not attacking, I just want to understand what you are trying to convey?
>>25705497
How do you look at god and say it wasn't created?
You're just digging yourself deeper into the hole. It's like taking a loan to pay your debts.
>>25706142
It's not just philosophy, there is a significant amount of research and experimentation involved.
I'm simply using Schrodinger's cat as he intended, an example of the fact that reality is malleable, and depended on the observer.
>>25706207
Confirmed for having zero understanding of schrodingers cat
>>25706207
9-10ish wo lad edgy kid at Catholic School.
15 started to believe again, at 17 started praying again. Took it from there.
>>25704811
>inb4 fedora
>>25704811
Never really started. My parents never took me to church or anything. Just didn't seem like there needed to be god.
I never really believed in the first place
First time I was informed about it was when I was about 5, to which I replied something along the lines of "Isn't that just an excuse for guilty people to still feel pure and innocent?"
>>25705935
>>25706207
Sorry, but Schrodinger's cat has no need for conciousness.
When physicists say the wave becomes a particle when it is 'observed,' they do not mean that someone has to look at it, they mean that when it comes into contact with another particle.
The exact same experiments, with the same results of wave-particle duality can be achieved just by shining a torch onto the electron beam.
There is no conciousness of the torch, yet it changes the outcome of the experiment when the photons hit the electrons that are being diffracted.
>>25705935
>Why does no one have any clue about quantum mechanics?
It is a extremely complex field, and layman information is full of pseudoscience metaphysical bullshit
>Do you have any idea what wave particle duality really means?
I can almost guarantee it means something completely different then what you think it means.
>Schrodinger's cat?
Was a thought experiment that was originally though up to point out how strange some aspects of QM are. This again is often misinterpreted though.
>Consciousness creates reality.
No and QM does not actually support that assertion. That is BS that non scientific metaphysicist pushed into "new-age" culture.
I was a le edgy atheist back in my teens.
Now, in the light of recent shitskin activity, i have refound my faith.
I'm getting my ''Confirmation'' (So says google translator) in a while too.
Around 9 when I prayed that I wouldnt get my ass beat and end up experiencing something terrible. Then I went trough near literal hell and figured that there is no god. No god would have allowed that shit to happen. Atleast I smartened up a bit then and realised that you gotta deal with stuff on your own, not with the help of some imaginary dude.
>>25706529
True. Muslims prove christianity.
>>25706549
''Help yourself and god will help you''
;^)
>>25706581
does masturbation count
>>25706679
He is always walking with you
None of your business faggot. Shut up and get back to sucking my cock.
Only the extremely stupid are atheist.
See: I must've been 11 or 12 when I learned my prayers did nothing. If there is a God, he doesn't care.
None of you can even begin to comprehend basic theology, yet you act like experts.
>>25704811
12. Never cared about religion.
I always skip going to mosques; I usually hide under my bed when my dad tries to take me; all i ever wanted to was to watch anime and play runescape all day.
>boohoo bad stuff happens therefore God doesn't exist
>muh problem of evil
It's like you guys are literally retarded or something.
>>25705244
DUDE I SAID IT SO ITS TRUE
Educate yourself
>>25705373
>The answer is no
This is what atheists believe to be a sound argument.
>>25705935
>le science means its le true!
>>25706802
>None of you can even begin to comprehend basic theology
Burden of proof makes the entire field a joke
plebs
>2016
>believing in a god
I wish I could believe. Most of it is pretty solid life philosophy, I think. But even so, despite prayer and all of the other shit. I've never really felt it. Believed it, whatever.
I guess I'm a perfect Christian on the outside and a piece of shit spiritually on the inside.
>>25707017
you can just meditate and that will probably do the same thing
I've never believed in God. I've never even been closely acquainted with anybody religious if you don't count grandparents, and I'm extremely normie by /r9k/ standards. That entire worldview is just completely alien to me. I'm from a country that has an actual state church, but religious people just don't seem to actually exist.
>>25704811
>tfw there will never be a jesus who loves you unconditionally
11, but this is still a horrible feel.
>>25707106
There is though.
When I was 20 I saw a play about Jews in a consecration camp who put God on trial for failing to protect them.
>>25707106
Jesus Christ existed, the question is whether or not he was the son of God.
>>25707133
Did God ask them why they haven't fulfilled the Law of Sacrifice since 70 AD?
>>25704811
never tBh, I still believe
>being an edgy teenager atheist
I thought this board was mostly adults?
>>25707169
No he didn't even attend the trial because he's not real
>>25707138
``Christ'' is a religious title, not his name.
>>25705887
What does that have to do with god?
>>25705935
>Consciousness creates reality
What the fuck are you on about?
>>25706142
>quantum mechanics is quantum philosophy
Fuck no. You're retarded.
>>25707192
>not believing makes you an edgy teenager atheist
epic
>>25707138
Well no shit he existed, but he's dead now.
>>25706875
>This is what atheists believe to be a sound argument
Lol, not a argument. Not sure what made you think it was.
It was simply a personal evaluation of my beliefs. Not trying to convince anyone of anything.
Since I personally don't belie in a god, gods, or religious ideology then I am by definition a atheist.
Never did. Parents never pushed the religious crap. Well, atleast with me.
They let me and my 2 sisters really decide what we believed in.
Even now, my dad isn't all that religious.
Mom still believes in the after life / spiritual side. But hasn't gone to church in a very long time.
>>25707358
And a moron.
>>25707307
Yes, it does.
>>25707445
only edgy one here is you
>>25707531
Nope, you. You will never (not) be edgy.
>>25704811
Never believed in God
>>25707618
thanks for proving my point friendo
>>25705497
The universe is infinite, there are infinite rerolls for the formation of solar systems, we were just one that supported this specific system of life.
Questioning catholicism? 13
Becoming atheist? 15
i wasn't raised by a religious family and it never really got me. i remember some kid in middle school bringing a bible to me and trying to read it to me because "i was going to hell." he was genuinely confused about me in general.
i kinda feel bad for him, because i could tell his family was intensely religious but he was also clear gay, i really hope he didn't end up in some fucking sexuality "correctional therapy" bullshit.
>Look into mirror.
>See God every time.
Fuck it's great being me.
>>25707748
m'lady
>>25707806
>omg how dare they try to prevent him from a life of sodomy!1!
>>25707860
How do you know how to speak my super sekrit atheist forgotten language??!!
>>25707860
Wow. Amazing post quality there!
>>25704811
13 perhaps my family wasn't religious at all anyway and I didn't ever see myself as a catholic
ps: fuck you cunt robot
>Edgy atheist until I was 20 or so
>Realize I simply can't put faith in a supernatural entity without asking why there aren't other supernatural things.
>>25707942
Yes you can?
Stupid bastard.
>>25704983
This.
I just went along with it, but I knew it didn't make much sense. I'm not really into the whole christian morality thing so w/e.
God is a man made concept. People weren't born with the instinct to go to a church and pray every Sunday.
>itt: a bunch of obese NEETs blaming their shit lives in God
>>25708018
Wrong again, do you just life to spout lies?
before jesus did everyone just go to hell because they didn't know the existence of god?
>>25708018
People live to worship. If you're not worshiping God, then you're worshiping something else (e.g. sex, money, drugs).
>>25705491
Pascal's wager implies the if there is a god hr rewards your idea of being "good". How do you know that God doesn't have a completely different idea of how you should act? How do you know God doesn't reward "evil" deeds? Pascal's wager is the worst reason to believe anon
I was 15 when I finally admitted to myself christianity was BS, to be honest my christian education helped it along because I found philosophical problems with it as young as 8.
12. My family was never super religious and eventually I just thought the whole thing contradicted reality too much to be true.
>>25708064
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/where-did-people-who-died-before-christ-go
>>25707995
>I think I know what someone else can put faith in
ok buddy
17. I tried I really did. But arguments for agnostic atheism make way more sense than arguments for any specific religion, and even deism.
>>25704811
I didn't start out believing. I was atheist until 16. But I believe now.
I don't think I ever believed in god. My parents were hardcore christians to an excruciating extent but I never got into it like they wanted me to. We had family bible study everyday but I spent the entire time drawing and fantasizing about something more interesting. I slept through church. Praying and all the other behaviors felt ridiculous. Around 11 I realized that I was more of a nihilist but I kept it to myself since my parents would probably disown me. They both get pleasure in the idea of hell and all the 'sinners' having to burn there for eternity. They found out I was no longer a christian around age 15 and refused to accept it. Stopped talking to me and treated me like an animal. They kicked me out at 16 and I haven't talked to them since. I believe that human beings do not possess a sufficient enough level of comprehension to rely on things like faith at this stage in human development. To believe in yourself so strongly to not doubt or question anything seems very delusional and anti-productive. The true nature of religion reeks of fear tactics, brainwashing and just overall manmade intentions and concepts. I can't get behind something that endorses a fucking eternal hell full of suffering, for fuck's sake. Anyone who can accept that and see it as just and right is not a person that I want to be around.
>>25708308
what turned you?
>>25708331
Looking at arguments for both sides. I decided believing was the more logical choice.
>>25708388
interesting. usually the indoctrination starts from when your a child
>>25708328
Your parents are just dicks. I'm a pretty conservative Roman Catholic, but if my son was an atheist I guess I'd just accept it. It's still my blood. They're hypocrites that are sinning themselves, family is very important.
I'll keep you in my prayers anon, I guess even if that doesn't mean much here.
Good thing I'm a christian atheist Muslim devil worshiper jew Buddhist.
>>25708448
>They're hypocrites that are sinning themselves
why tho
>>25708421
Yes, I know. If only my primitive mind was as enlightened as yours.
Lost faith around 20, redefined "god" around 35
>>25704811
I never really believed in God at all. My mom is religious but never pushed it on me and my dad isn't religious.
>>25708388
What denomination?
original comment
>>25708466
Throwing your kid out for questioning the faith is just a dick move. A real Christian would try their best to bring the son back in, but ultimately still love him for what he is.
I never did.
I'm dedicated to find proof of life death before I kick it.
A ghost, possession, anything.
>>25708533
I don't have one.
Also, I am original.
>>25708611
Try joining one that aligns with your beliefs. The whole process is more fun with a community.
Around 16 or 17.
>>25708582
>fedoralords think they understand Christianity
>>25708585
>proof
Positivist retard spotted.
>>25709011
why are you so mad?
don't think god would appreciate your negativity
i never believed in that scam
I never stopped believing in God.
I only realized that It cannot be relied on,supplicated,moved by Pity or a need to be Just. It would violate the Rules,all that Old Testament interference. It Watches,and Types madly at the keyboard,sometimes grim,sometimes wildly hysterical from its own wit and ironies. I am but an Abstraction to It,only So real,and therefore only worth So much concern. Oddy,if I were to Define this Creator, the closest image applicable would be the Flying Spaghetti Monster:it's noodley appendages running subtly through life,tweaking parameters where needed.
I cannot blame It for What Goes On. It is as curious as I about What Happens Next, and I am in control of my own life,to some extent, dealt my hand of cards,my defining attributes and characteristics,and facing my own personal drama. As we all are. And since we cannot turn to Divine Intervention to help us (It's too busy smoking a cigar and drinking Jack Daniels for that),all we can do is help each other. With Advice,a Strong Arm,and an occasional ASS Kicking.
I am a Creator myself. I understand. And I try not to take my misery personally, only flipping the bird at the sky with a wry knowing smile.
>>25709065
You still don't get it, do you?
>>25704811
15
I want to believe again. But I've seen terrible shit in my line of work and it just makes me think that if God is real, he has abandoned us or actively hates us.
This world is filthy and cruel, I wouldn't blame him if he did. Just like I wouldn't blame a foster parent for giving up on a problem child.
>>25709133
That is a unique perspective anon. I am quite moved.
I may adopt this thinking.
>>25704811
In 28 years I guess I never really stopped.
I just joined the other team.
>>25709432
get what?
you just mad as fuck and anyone who doesn't believe is a 'fedora' nice meme! admit it you're just like the rest of us.
>>25709463
>i don't understand theology
You are disgusting.
>>25709573
Explain it to me then, anon. What am I missing?
>>25709568
>>25709612
Everything, you have the mindset of a preadolescent.
I believe in god, but I see god as more as an energy rather then a person tho.
>>25709463
have you thought that maybe god just isn't good? maybe he lost hope in us. maybe he just doesn't care
it doesn't matter what anyone believes ever. i don't blame people for having a god and being part of a religion. some people just can't admit it and need a reason. they need to believe there's a reason for this awful world we live in
>>25704860
14 to 15, not 14 minus 15,
>>25709667
>im right and you are wrong!
>i won't explain how though!
lmaoing
>>25709689
You'd be wrong, like you're wrong about everything.
You illiterate non-entity.
>>25709727
I have explained it, you're completely ignorant of all theology and presuming yourself to be deep by inquiring on questions answered hundreds, if not over a thousand years ago.
>>25709667
I guess I should add that another reason I stopped believing is because of intolerant pricks like you with this superiority complex thinking they are better than everyone else because of their faith.
You want to bitch about my ignorance of theology? Fine. Hopefully there is a hell and your arrogant ass will get thrown in there and you look up stupidly asking "abloo bloo why am I in hell I was a Christian/catholic I'm better than normal people wahhh"
You're destroying the following of your own religion.
I stopped believing around 15 then started believing again at 24.
>>25709764
well said. this guy is mad as fuck
>>25709689
You know, I have thought of that. Maybe he was good when he created us but then saw what we became and it angered him or something.
Either way, his intentions don't seem to be good for me or humanity in general, so even if I did believe I don't think I'd worship him. In fact I think I'd be scared of him and dislike him.
>>25709011
There's nothing retarded about searching for answers.
>raised by atheist parents who explained everything to me scientifically
>didn't even know of the concept of god or religion until I was 5 and went to primary school
>don't have all these weird hang-ups about abandoning my faith or a phantom feeling of god judging everything I even think that most religious raised people eventually admit to
>>25709764
>intolerant
OMG STOP TRIGGERING ME THIS IS A SAFE PLACE
This is no world for stupid bastards who still choose to speak out as heretics and think their ignorance makes them wise, and thereby right.
You could perhaps be humble and accept your ignorance instead of speak out because muh safe space.
>>25709791
Don't upboat yourself.
>>25709800
Proof is meaningless, presuming your non-methods are accurate is absolutely retarded
>>25709812
>scientifically
You mean under a dogma that was btfo before it was even solidified?
>>25709011
>fedoralords
I'm a confirmed Roman Catholic. What're you trying to get at protesfag?
>>25709838
>he's still posting
>>25704811
Never believed at all. My autism never permited me to believe in emotionalist feel good bullshit.
>>25709812
congrats, now science is your god
There's nothing wrong with beveling in God and there's nothing wrong with not believing in god, why can't people just accept each other
>>25709838
LALALALALALA
YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND
LALALALALALA
I'VE READ AUGUSTINE AND KIERKEGAARD AND KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT LIFE
LALALALALALA
>this thread
>all these fedora fags trying to defy out lord and savior
>after all he did for us
Fuck you guys Odin is best god.
>>25709838
You sound like you go on r/atheism and start fights.
>safe space
Do you know where you are son? Regardless of religion, none of us here support that tumblr shit.
For all those who said they reconverted or never lost faith what makes you accept it? At best I could find there are a few messy philosophical augments, but these are still debated to this day and are by no means are "proven" and usually at best give you something very vague, the first thing to exist, the greatest thing, etc. Even If you do accept these often it seems to make a little difference in practical life. A God who can only be argued but never demonstrated is the functional equivalent to no God in my book.
>>25709838
>I know, I'll call him a samefag, that'll do it
>>25709887
dumbest post of the day, well done
>>25709864
You're a poser and non-entity.
>>25709873
Because I am right, and must speak the truth or I am actively allowing others to damn themselves with their ignorance.
>>25709906
Wrong, it is in fact the highest evil to be an atheist.
>>25709923
Those are fundamentals, yes.
>>25709953
Except you, you pointless little brats who think they can profane at will with no rebuttal against them.
>>25709960
Another moron who doesn't understand any theology or philosophy.
>A God who can only be argued but never demonstrated is the functional equivalent to no God in my book.
Icing on the cake; a demonstration of pure, undiluted stupidity.
>>25710003
b-b-bb--but muh dogma SOMEBODY SAID IT SO ITS TRUE I DONT NEED AN ARGUMENT
>>25704811
I never believed.
>>25704811
I always used to question things that didn't make sense in church(which was a lot) but I'd always get these nonsensical answers so I stopped asking because I didn't want to look stupid. When I was 12 I became friends with an atheist kid and he started challenging my beliefs.
>>25709687
I lean this way too. God isn't an omniscient Santa Claus reading prayers in the clouds like all the Christians make it out to be. If God exists then God is a timeless amorphous interdimensional being of pure light. karma, and energy, wheels within wheels within wheels eternally turning to balance the universe. More like one of those hyperevolved beings from Star Trek or the Force from Star Wars. I know one loses all credibility here when you mention psychedelics but that's one of the things that they suggested to me, and that makes a hell of a lot more sense than the bs traditional religious people are always going on about.
>>25710010
>So uh this guy killed forty people, raped twelve babies to death, and canibalized all of his victims
>So? We have higher priorities. This other man was an ATHIEST.
>>25705497
>>25705555
You're using emotion to come to conclusions that can invisible man in the sky created everything. That's pretty retarded, mate.
>>25709960
well for me I see signs everyday, I see the number 41 around 5 or 6 times a day, it's been happening since high school, at first it freaked me out but I've gotten use to it. I always get the felling like even in my darkest times there are people backing me up, I guess you could just call me crazy, but I think it's more then that.
>>25704811
13/14. I was big into debates and shit but then I realized I was being an idiot so I simply consumed info less and stopped talking about religion.
Best choice of my life lmao.
>>25710010
oh smart one please teach me i keep asking but you just keep calling me a non entity
>>25710010
>Icing on the cake; a demonstration of pure, undiluted stupidity.
If God makes no noticeable difference in human life, then it makes no real difference if he exist or not and we might as well not bother with the question. I mean sure it could be a philosophical question, that we seek for academic interest or for the sake of knowledge but would be about as useful as arguing if numbers are real. Sure it might interest some but in the end it really doesn't matter either way.
>>25710010
So being an atheist is worse than murder, rape, theft, betrayal, torture, and even mass genocide?
>>25710135
LOL GOD IS LE BEST U HERETIC XDDD
>>25710010
you should waste your time on more productive things
trust me your obnoxious behavior and superiority complex is not deluding anyone to join your cause
>>25710010
generally you want to present an argument in order to convince someone of your world view
unless you're not trying to convince people of your world view and merely want to feel superior as one of god's predetermined
>>25705491
That's is, if your religion is right, pic related.
>>25704811
14, I used to enjoy catholic church as a kid. I think it was bc I have always love fairytales and fantasy, so a god almighty and his son with powers sounded awesome.
>>25704811
>implying I ever did
>>25704927
>implying it isn't
>implying it's just to make kids behave, and not also adults
who here was raised catholic?
I haven't been to church since I was 13, my parents made me go every second sunday prior to that. They suddenly stopped going and never really explained why.
I don't ever think I was that religious, I don't buy into Christianity in a literal sense but I still have a weird emotional connection with the bible and the church.
I have very fond memories of my religious upbringing, love christian imagery and bible stories despite more or less being an athiest.
14. I was a very religious boy. Then I started to realize there was no way there could be a benevolent god. Maybe there could be a prick god but not one that loves everyone. Look at the world. Suffering is everywhere. No one escapes it. Happiness is fleeting and not achievable for everyone. No benevolent creature would allow something like pic related to exist.
>>25705555
Dude, if the universe has to be "fine tuned" then that means God is held to laws higher than himself, meaning he is not omnipotent and not god
>>25704811
God wasn't there when I needed him the most, if this god allows such suffering in the world then I will not believe in such a evil thing
>>25710191
>>25710179
LOL UR JUST MAD BCUZ YU AREN'T AN ENLIGHTENED SUPERIOR CHRISTIAN LIKE ME ROFL
ATHEISTS BTFO
>>25710103
See? You don't understand theology one bit.
>>25710163
>IF I DONT BENEFIT OR DUN SEEN IT THE NITS DUMB AND BULLSHIT NSHIT
>So being an atheist is worse than murder, rape, theft, betrayal, torture, and even mass genocide?
Again, not understanding theology:
>I DONT LIKE IT SO ITS BAD
>>25710179
>>25710191
Pointless non-posts.
>>25710227
>i literally do not understand the most basic theology that was dealt with a good 1800 years ago
>a perfect being must follow MY MORALS OMG IM THE BEST EVER SUCK ME OFF EVERYBODY
>>25710250
Arrogant cunt.
Never was religious, my dad is agnostic and my mother is technically a christian but never goes to church and doesn't belive in god, but she claims to be christian because of her very religious up bringing.
That being said, I'd like to think of my self as moraly on par to any other person, religious or not.
Atheism doesn't work because it requires defining what you don't believe in before you can not believe in it.
"I don't believe that god is some Santa Claus in the clouds, or some invisible Flying Spaghetti Monster!"
Yeah, no shit genius
I literally never believed in God as far as I know. My dad was a little c christian just because he was raised as one, my mom is 'spiritual'. We stopped going to church when I was 1 because my sister freaked out during the Easter story, so I missed out on the whole Church scene basically entirely. My mom recently wondered if she screwed me over by not giving me that, and I honestly don't know. I've always taken the meaningless of life for granted, which is nihilistic, but at least if you've always accepted that reality, it's less bothersome.
tl;dr I never did.
Anyone remember how fucking boring church was? I remember being pissed off because my mom decided to pass out to have a "spiritual experience" after the priest gave her a blessing after mass. But of course she woke up as soon as I kicked her get up. Come to think of it looking back I don't think I ever really believed.
>>25704811
16
>le athiest fedora tipper
18
>started hating both theists and athiests
>also discovered the wonders of philosophy
20(now)
>hate life and want to die
Nothing matters life as we know it is meaningless
What if Jesus knew there was no God but tricked people into believing he was God so they would have hope
>>25710319
Sounds like you could use a bit of autonomy. I believe the same and I'm chill as fuck
>>25710319
>athiest
pls
atheist*
>>25710197
love that diagonal line of heaven
>>25710283
Why do people always try to make atheism into more than what it actually is? Atheism doesn't need to be belief in anything. You can just reject the concept of god or God or gods out of hand and be done with it. That doesn't require any extra defining.
>>25710272
>pointless nonposts
still not an argument
all I'm asking is for a reason why you choose to believe in god, and how you think your reasoning is infallible
that's it, that's all you need to answer, once you've answered that question we can have a reasonable debate
>>25704811
13 or 14
During my confirmation
>>25710342
Weird enough people think I'm chill to hang out with too but I don't like people and just socialize because solitary confinement for to long will make you insane
17
Right when I saw the life leave my Dad's eye's when he passed from cancer.
Months leading up to his death, I saw him cry and scream asking "God" to help him. I would pray and hope my dad would make it.
When I saw him die with his hand going limp in mine, I knew there was no God. No matter how many senseless people told me there was.
>>25710386
>makes you insane
So does hanging around people.
>>25710344
thanks for correcting me
>>25710304
>boring church was
Oh, now it's all cookies and cakes actually. See, now that atheism is more tolerated, the church has lost its societal pressure upon younglings. Now they realized what they need to keep their new batch of cultists is to make church fun, otherwise kids are gonna not wanna go and eventually leave. So they have activities and get frozen yogurt and bounce houses, etc.
>>25710368
>reasonable
Another myth perpetuated by the ignorant.
>>25710366
It does though, don't asspull.
>>25710403
>senseless
OMG HOW DARE THING I DONT LIKE HAPPEN I DESERVE TO BE SUCKED OFF AT EVERY POINT
Are you still 17?
>>25710272
>Again, not understanding theology
Then explain to me what I am missing and why it even matters, and if I don't "BENEFIT OR DUN SEEN IT" then why should I even care? I don't even need to belief or disbelief because apparently it makes no noticeable difference. If there is a difference in the way the universe works with a God then be all means point it out.
>I DONT LIKE IT SO ITS BAD
Also explain how a not believing in a single abstract concept/being(God) is worse than all these destructive behaviors.
>>25710417
In all honesty the teen masses are just regular masses with more contemporary music. And youth group is just the biggest jerks and sluttiest chicks getting together and pretending it isn't just an excuse to hang out and get free food.
>>25710386
Yeah
I meditate and drink and etc. enough to keep myself from treadmilling my way to suicide
There are limits to my body and it requires enough mental chewing gum to keep from freaking out
>>25710448
You miss everything, every single concept that Christianity is based upon. You are less than a child.
>>25710403
Did this happen yesterday?
People die get over it. Either lose the attachment you have with others so this doesn't happen again or learn to deal with it.
post with originality
9 years old desu. I was thinking while laying on the couch in my basement and realized that god was one big meme.
>>25710491
Christianity is just Buddhism lite, grafted on to Judaism:
http://www.thezensite.com/non_Zen/Was_Jesus_Buddhist.html
Bits of truth there, but not like gravity-level truth.
>>25710526
Good one Anon those cristfags won't see it coming.
>>25710491
Your argument is no more than calling me stupid. Explain these concepts that are so great or at the very least reference them so I know what the hell they are.
i never believed im not a schmuck
Who #FollowerOfOrder here? I don't believe in the christian god nor anything, but I believe in a ultimate kind of high order and harmony worth in strive for, I even made a silly chant:
To everything that is righteous and just
To everything that is valiant and good
So that there is justice and order
So that my ways are pure and the means clean
To have the dignity to stand for what I respect
May I have the strenght to stand by myself without wavering
So as not to stand alone
To have mercy for the weak while faith for those I cannot save
While aways firm and stead to purge all that is evil and impure
May I bring peace for those in war and understanding for those in need
So we remain together as one unbreakeable chain
>>25710561
Wrong, don't post when you clearly understand nothing.
>>25710563
>so great
They refute everything in this thread, for one.
>>25710582
You sound like an NPC guarding the king's bedroom
>>25710624
Then stop shitposting and actually explain them.
>>25710624
you're not contributing anything to the thread
im gonna have to ask you to leave
>>25710624
How am I wrong? Too many similarities. It's airtight.
I'm sure some scripture reading and a few more church sessions will soothe that nagging doubt, though. Forsake not the brotherhood!
>humans think there smarter then god
lmao this thread is full of retards.. you dummies can't even comprehend what god even is
>>25710440
>It does though, don't asspull.
So basically you're bitching about Reddit tier militant atheists and equating that with the general concept of atheism, which is entirely false.
>>25710625
W-what? I'm not a cuck If is that what you're asking.
Im an agnostic atheist, meaning I either believe in a perfect being not from any religion created the universe, or just some higher-up shmuck is running a game of sims
Wouldn't it be funny if our universe is actually just some kinda interactive game and the people watching think whenever we talk about the universe being a simulation is just self-referential humor added into the game when in fact were actually sentient life forms, and every time we addressed this fact they though that this was more self referential humor.
Wait... Did I say funny? I meant terrifying.
I never believed but after reading some St Augustine I have an appreciation of the christian faith and it's teachings.
>>25710663
Wrong, I'm the only one making remotely relevant posts.
>>25710660
It goes above their heads.
>>25710694
Nope, all atheists are Reddit-tier in that they're worthless morons.
>>25710707
No
I'm having some fun
I like your chant senpai, we should all be so kind
Slim chance, but any Ba'haists around here? I took some literature from a guy at a fair on a whim and it's some solidly interesting stuff. Probably the most logical religion out there.
>>25710686
Show us lowly dunces the way then, oh one of understanding.
>>25704811
16, I can pinpoint it almost to the day. No big story or whatever, I just had a really hot slut trying to get me to touch her tits. I figured there was no way any real God would give a flying fuck or prevent me from touching something so cool.didn't touch them anyway, she was one of my best mates' girl and I was too guilty.
>this triggers atheists
>>25710739
>ridiculous impossible thing written in the Bible
BEHOLD!! A MIRACLE!!!
>ridiculous impossible thing written on the Internet
UH, WRONG! USE YUR LOGIC SEMPAI
>>25710739
And why exactly does rejection of God make one a worthless moron?
Hey, we should be worthwhile to you, you can convert us and get us into heaven for brownie points with your own deity.
>bad things happen in the world therefore there is no god
but what about the good and beautiful things in the world?
>>25710802
No shit
This is literally Buddhism
>>25710739
incorrect. you are not posting anything relevant towards the thread
the thread asked "how old were you when you stopped believing in god" instead you are going on nonsensical rants without any thought or explanations
i have drawn the conclusion that you are a shitposter. you have been outed
>>25710440
>Another myth perpetuated by the ignorant.
you know what
nevermind
I know your argument
Kierkegaard had some good points, in the presence of a divine entity a human would indeed not be able to use his powers of reason to comprehend it, and as such a 'leap of faith' is required to believe in god. It is a completely valid view of life that is fundamentally immune to criticism, as it asserts all criticism is part of an inferior mode of thought
your claims are unfalsifiable, that doesn't mean other people are immature or ignorant for not believing in them.
the same argument can be made for solipsism, it is also unfalsifiable and thus equally valid.
every hypothesis that can not be falsified is equally valid, you chose one of a number of choices and it's just as right as any other. This is not some esoteric knowledge of the innerworking of the universe, it's just a way to commit philosophical suicide and an excuse to dedicate yourself to a code of ethics, and there is nothing necessarily wrong with this
THIS POST IS SELF-AFFIRMING OF ITS OWN TRUTH
Can't argue this one, Christians!
>>25710812
>ridiculous
Somebody failed English 101
>>25710829
Because you are actively worthless.
>>25710851
No it's not, stop falsely appointing value to your irrelevant philosophy.
>>25710866
>nonsensical
>>25710887
>camus
High-schooler's aren't worth speaking to.
Belief in anything but an absolute being is illogical.
>>25710739
>every one who disagrees with me is stupid!
>explain
>your too stupid to understand my reasoning!
>>25705702
>Our shitty lives are not an excuse for the non-existence of anything.
Yeah they are.
An all-Good, all-powerful, all-knowing God wouldn't leave peoples lives to be miserable.
And don't give me that garbage "free will" excuse. Libertarian free will is an incoherent, self-contradictory mess of bullshit. Compatibilist free will is overt sophistry and deception.
There is no free will. And even if there were (there can't be because it's an incoherent concept, but let's just humor the idea), if you look at the Bible, God interferes with people's wills repeatedly.
"God" and "free will" are some of the dumbest, most toxic, harmful concepts mankind ever thought up. They're used as excuses to hurt others and oneself, too. They are dangerous delusions.
>>25710919
>he's been outed as a shitposter and now is getting mad
;^)
>>25710888
Cogito ergo Sum is an extremely simple piece of logic, what are you entailing?
>>25710930
Please don't shitpost.
>>25710982
>An all-Good, all-powerful, all-knowing God wouldn't leave peoples lives to be miserable.
Why? MUH FEELINGS?
>Libertarian free will is an incoherent, self-contradictory mess of bullshit.
Luckily Christianity isn't Libertarian.
>"God" and "free will" are some of the dumbest, most toxic, harmful concepts mankind ever thought up
Said every illiterate ever.
OMG THESE THINGS TRIGGER ME BAN THEM
>>25710919
>schooler's
Honk honk
>>25711039
Are you complaining about informal grammar online?
>>25710919
>Belief in anything but an absolute being is illogical.
>>25710440
>>reasonable
>Another myth perpetuated by the ignorant.
this is what we call double think, either you commit to reason being irrelevant in studies of the divine, or you accept reason as a guiding principle, you can't have both when they're convenient to you
I think i gave you too much credit here >>25710887
you're dumber than I thought, have you even actually read kierkegaard?
>>25711067
Laughing at it! Keep dancing for me.
>>25711018
>Please don't shitpost.
Your the one who is lashing out at everyone,offering no arguments and calling them stupid instead. All your do is say we don't understand your brilliant christian reasoning and never actually explain anything.
>>25711081
>reason is logic
Hahaha shit, you people are just pitiful.
Leave already, you non-entity.
>>25711121
I've offered arguments in the past, fedoralords only care about having their dick sucked.
>>25710802
Hm, that's real interesting. So god in this case would be be the original cause,the original verb, the one paint to make all colors in the canvas of existence, the head at the end of an octopus...
>>25711121
This guy gets it.
I know it's sad when your beliefs get attacked because you don't have any fallback option. But autistic thumping of your ancient text isn't gonna make you feel better
>hating on God because you want to seem cool to strangers on a Chinese bullet imageboard
