I saw an INSANELY good looking guy at the store today.
This guy AMOGs pretty much everyone I have seen in my life, in person and in picture. He even AMOGs Dolph Lundgren. He was the epitome of Chad.
This guy was at least 6'6", BROAD SHOULDERED, moderately muscular, football player physique, tattoos on his right arm. His face was pretty much perfect, and he had a noticeably protruding anteface. He looked a lot like prime Chris Carmack, but he was even better looking and with more of an anteface.
He was noticeably different, a totally different species, from you and me. He was closer to a god than to a man. All heads in the store were turned towards him. I turned towards my sister and she was eyefucking the shit out of him. The cashier was extra nice to him, you could tell her pussy was dripping wet just by being in his presence. Every girl who has ever come in contact with this guy has wanted to have sex with him, and all this guy has to do to get laid is snap his fingers. This guy is legitimately the best looking guy I have ever seen in my life.
I felt like such shit getting so BRUTALLY AMOGged by him. I'm 6'1 and this guy utterly towered over me. Not only that, but he was also had a much higher shoulder breadth to height ratio than me. I felt like a 6 year old girl standing next to him. When I got home I looked at myself in the mirror, and it was so painful to see my subhuman rat face staring back at me. I never felt so so inadequate, so subhuman.
And then it dawned on me. Every thing I do in life, all the studying I do, all the job hunting I do, all the wage slaving I do, is just so I can experience in life a tiny sliver of what this guy gets to experience on a daily basis. I spend years in high stress and poverty to get a graduate degree, wageslave, and take it up the ass from a douchebag boss, just so I can earn enough wealth to maybe someday hopefully attract a 5/10 woman whom I could marry. This guy gets the most beautiful women with zero effort.
>>25606109
As a 5'8 male, I'm going to kill myself now. Later /r9k/! I hope they serve tendies in hell.
>>25606109
Clicked the wrong tab boyo. Lookism is that way.
>>25606109
>Chad ThunderCock gets the Women
>Chad ThunderStrength Gets the NBA 15 Million signup bonus
>Chad ThunderBrain Gets the 1600 SAT score
It's all determined at birth, fellows. We never stood a chance
>>25606155
I know the pain. At least OP has an easier time of things than people than you and I and we are technically average height.
>and it was so painful to see my subhuman rat face staring back at me
top kek
>>25606224
I got a 1500+ SAT score and I'm a high school drop out. "ThunderBrain" is useless.
By that logic, you should be grateful and happy that hundreds of millions in this world have to get by everyday with less than a fucking dollar.
But you'd rather rant about the fortune of just one random man. Ok.
>>25606109
You got it. From now on don't do things because you think they will attract women or to not look like a loser. That's how the system gets you. Do things because you wanna. Stay woke.
>>25606282
>AMOGs
it's all relative, if ur scandinavian with 9/10 face compared to RESTofTHEworld and 6 feet u only 5/10 in scandinavia and thats all that matters.
U can't just compare urself to something that isnt a complete reality
>>25606282
$1 a day + friends + wife who loves you > $100 a day + no friends + being a virgin
$1 a day isn't that bad. I'll just eat lentils every day. I'll give up good food, electricity, and internet in exchange for a wife that loves me. Emotional intimacy is a basic human need.
>>25606263
Doesn't really refute anything I said but ok. Intelligence is genetic ->
It's all determined at birth, fellows. We never stood a chance
i don't know you guys get so worked up over this shit, its like when you watch porn and theres some hot ass 10/10 bitch with perfect tits and just the right kinda fat ass. sure you want to fuck her but you aren't gonna wife that bitch.
i know its different because obviously all the women would want to marry this kind of guy and love him forever but i think deep down they know they'd just be a slampig. though a lot of bitches are into that now i guess. i do feel kinda bad for the ones who are so stupid they think they're gonna be anything more than a pump and dump though.
anyway just quit getting so worked up about sloots
>>25606557
I just mean it isn't nearly as useful as being super handsome/rich/a pro athelte.
What kind of beta bitch boys go on /r9k/ and make posts like this?
I'm literally loling at your life OP
>>25606109
Being a super chad is living with cheats on. Makes me wonder why any of us try.
>>25606109
>6'6
JFC that's too tall, I went on a date with a guy that height and his upper half of his body kinda swayed when he walked. He was literally a foot and a half taller than me, fuck that. He probably had an 11" dick that would tear my vagina to shreds
>>25606715
>btw guys I'm a girl and I go on dates with chads teehee
go away
>>25606224
1800 here.
Will I make it?
>>25606109
>thinking looks is what makes a male a man
Top kek, my friend is 5'4 and more of a man than any of you fuckers. Not only is he in the marines bravely risking his life to save your ass, but also promoted twice in a short amount of time for his leadership and excelling of hard work. He treats everyone with respect, even chads, and steps up to the plate when he is in a relationship. He's the most caring and responsible guy I know.
You could be a hot 10/10 model but still not be a true man like that.
>>25606825
>doesn't know the difference between old/new SAT
>>25606715
then why you won't fuck my 5'10 manlet penis hole bitch?
>>25606848
>risking his life to save your ass
More like risking his life to save Israel's ass.
Life is too shitty and short to get wrapped up in your feeling in inadequacy. I live and worked at a service job as a 5'6 mexican-american who weighs about 120 lbs and would constantly see these massive men with gorgeous chiseled faces and stupid amounts of money walk in and out of the restaurant I worked at. The reality is that your life will never be as valuable as his, but it should not keep you from striving towards something meaningful to you personally. The worst thing you can do to yourself is live without a meaning. I've decided that in a year if I am not a better person and that if I do not find joy in existing and in participating in what I consider to be a rigged world, I will kill myself
>>25606934
>5'10
>manlet
This board is beyond saving
>>25606825
>Life is too shitty and short to get wrapped up in your feeling in inadequacy.
>Life is too shitty to [Think or do things that make you sad]
>Literally think positively
Might as well tell me to be myself. I'm getting off this shit heap of a planet.
>>25607812
>this
If you're 5'7" and above, quit crying
There's nothing worse than being conscious of the fact that you're genetic trash
is there amog for women? i feel like if your a cute girl then thats it you cant get amoged but even if you were a handsome fuck like don draper you can get amoged by dolph lundgren
like if a girl had some really god like face and tall with big tits and ass a really cute girl with a more normal face and tiny body is just as good or even better for lots of guys
>>25606658
A game is much more fun without cheat codes. Unless you're me I'm one big glitch.
>>25606652
This
What a turbofag OP must be
>>25606109
Yes life is unfair
What you going to do, cry?
>>25606652
Ehh, genetic advantages ARE unconquerable bullshit. That's indisputable stuff that in and of itself makes the blood boil.
But this one's on OP for choosing to revolve his life around a vagina, as he more or less transparently stated to us.
Chad isn't a threat (outside of business-type jobs where social dominance is critical) if you can live independently for yourself.
>AMOGs
Bye roosh.
>>25608001
Yes.
She was physically flawless in a way that made even the most grotesque men shy and humble. She was like a Disney princess made flesh, only - achingly - human. To be in the same room as her was to be aware of your ugliness on a level that didn't even hurt - you just knew that you were not her kind, not her species, and you couldn't help loving her, like one would love a goddess.
Her intelligence and personality were exactly as beautiful as she was.
In a class of fifty, none of us had sex until we were in our late teens and twenties; we shuffled around treating each other with reverence and respect and kindness, because she could see us, and her presence made all of us yearn to be - somehow - better, even if it was an unspoken happy agreement that we could never be her equal.
Every atom of her body radiated perfection. She was incapable of hatred or even unkindness. When I think of my youth spent in her presence I feel awe and relief; none of us were competitive with each other, no one discriminated against anyone else's appearance, because it felt silly and pointless. Her purity seemed to make all of us clean.
It's rare to see people like that, OP, but as far as I know, when perfect people are a part of your life, their halo effect is so strong that it makes everyone around them better. Just - better.
In the old days, people like that would be recognized as natural kings and queens over the rest of us. I can see why monarchy worked for so many centuries. Perfect men are like the King of Chads; they have the natural power to make all men brothers and lead them to do great things. Perfect women seem to negate all evil and make all women more virtuous and sisterly to each other.
It's like catching a glimpse of a legend.
>>25606109
In a different age this guy would have almost no advantage over you for mating. You could just fucking murder him and his clan and it would be a 50/50. Physical combat prowess has almost no correlation to looks and being tall doesn't make you better at murdering humans with pointy things, significantly. The ultimate deciding factors for mating would be cunning (strategy, army-building) and charisma (attracting followers), natural resources aside. Of course, the women would get positively no say.
If you're talking about women voluntarily choosing and dating men, you're overestimating their libido and its basis around visual stimuli. Sexual pleasure in women is vestigial, a result of them having a vestigial penis (the clitoris) and not even close to all women are capable of orgasm. They aren't as motivated by sex as men as a result of this, usually. The ones that are tend to be turned on mostly by touch and cerebral stimuli. Which is to say even Danny Devito can get laid; he just needs to say and do all the right things, and it helps to also have a big bank account.
That said, almost no one posting on this shittarded board is capable of that, because we're all psychologically stunted. We feel, we don't think, and we would rather whine than take action because we're cowardly and stupid.
I think it would behoove many of you to critically analyze your motivations. Why do you want a woman to have sex with you in the first place? How can you call yourself sapient if all you ever do is fully informed by direct emotional responses, and no higher thought processes? What separates you from a unicellular mass of organic proteins that moves when things touch it?
>>25608037
>A game is much more fun without cheat codes
When you can't get access to 99% of the content without codes, it's not
>>25608521
Guess how many Chad cocks have been inside her roastie? Hint: It's at least ten times her age.
>>25606109
Not if we kill him
>subhuman and fucking proud
>>25608610
Wow. You're pretty smart
>>25606224
>1600 SAT score
Kek. I made a 2100 and still managed to fail enough college to lose my scholarship.
>>25608729
back to rebbit, kid
>>25606224
Also if you aren't born smart you can be born to be a very hard worker. Naturally lazy people are fucked.
>>25608674
I can confirm that she was a virgin until at least 23. Haven't really been in touch with her since then because I don't have a cuckbook.
Seriously, what do you think "perfect" means? Name any flaw you can imagine and I'd wager my liver she doesn't have it. Perfect means perfect. If you ever met her you'd fall in love, and she would be so kind and sweet to you that the thought of anything other than enjoying her company for a few brief moments would vanish from your brain. You would depart from the encounter a better human being, in some small way.
>6'6 person being seen as attractive
People that tall are weird at best, and freakish at worst
>>25608294
The point is that everything you've ever wanted to achieve and accomplish can be done with no effort by people born with the right attributes.
>>25608795
shut the fuck up you lying roastie whore
>>25608790
post a pic of her then and prove it
>>25608809
you just proved her point to a T
>>25608806
Agree. This bothers me more though with IQ and career success (and social advantage in always being the expert/smart guy/genius) though desu senpai.
>>25607014
>le joos!!!!
God I hate /pol/.
>>25606224
I'm not American but isn't the maximum score on the SATs 2400?
>>25608037
In a good video game, the fun comes from the game overall and the journey as a whole. While rewards in video games are nice, except for MMOs they don't have that important of a role to play in making the game enjoyable for you.
In real life, unless you get really fucking lucky, you will have no enjoyment from the journey. Most likely you'll be working at some soul sucking low paying job slaving away for a boss. If you work hard though, you can get a higher paying job, but again, unless you get very lucky, it's going to be fucking miserable, and the only thing that keeps you going is the potential rewards.
People born superior to us don't have to go through any of that. It's just handed to them.
>>25608898
It used to be 1600, then they changed it to 2400, then after this year its going back to 1600, at least where I live
>>25606848
So he got born to be a really hard worker and have a cuck mentality. It's the same thing. I've been lazy and apathetic since I was in elementary school.
>>25608832
Don't have any.
I'm not sure that what OP & I are talking about can be fully shown in a photo, anyway. It has to do with how they move, how they smell, how they breathe... you have to meet one in person.
For what it's worth, "perfect" people are probably so rare you're lucky if you meet one or two in your lifetime. It's an interesting thing to experience. I see a lot of different people every day at work - I've probably seen about five hundred thousand different women in my lifetime so far. She was the only perfect one I've ever seen irl.
And I've seen one other woman who was unusual. Like, you can tell just by looking in her eyes that she lives a life of virtue and love and prayer. Something like that - a truly good woman. She's married to some chubby autist with a beard and they're dirt poor but she clearly loves him, she always gets things for him in a happy rush because he's too autistic to come inside the store. She must be about forty years old but she's got the body of a teen cheerleader and she wears twin ponytails and never any makeup and it's actually cute instead of cringey. I wanted to ask her to go out with me before I saw her (very simple plain silver band) wedding ring and realized that the reason she's always happy and bright is because she's already got someone.
It sounds ridiculous, but even though she's twice my age I'd marry her in a heartbeat with no regrets.
>>25609117
You know the sad thing about perfect people? They die unexpectedly. My school counselor was a perfect woman -- always smiling even through fucking breast cancer. Blonde hair, huge tits (before she got a double mastectomy), she had this air about her that just whispered "Mother." And she was married to a black guy. Funny that. I figured perfect people would be racist - that they would take only the good or some hogwash like that. But the perfect people really have this ability to see and pull the good out of anyone and anything. They can make criminals think twice before committing ANY crime.
Anyway, my counselor passed away at the age of 40. Broke everyone's heart. If there is such a thing, I know that she is in Heaven. God bless her soul and help everyone she left behind.
>>25609224
>race traitor
>nigger lover
>perfect
She deserved to die. Hopefully she's burning in hell right now.
Yeah, but his tolerance for good experiences is higher, so he doesn't even notice. Him fucking a 10/10 is like a robot getting a second free dipping sauce at McCuck. It means nothing to him.
That's no way to live.
>>25608221
> crying is bad
Lets knock off the toxic masculinity mmkay?
>>25609268
>more /pol/ memes
Fuck off with your racism. You wonder why you don't have a GF.
Life is a lottery.
Trash the ticket if you didn't win.
>>25609224
It's true.
Sometimes I wonder if being stuck here with the rest of us wears them down faster. I don't think they're meant for this world.
>>25606848
I never asked to be saved by a pansy military jughead who couldn't get a real job. Stop thinking being military makes you some perfect star of society that requires people to lick their bloody boots.
>>25609268
Dem damn dirty NEHGARS!!
It's a garsh damn kike cunspirsy!
If it's any consolation, from your description of this guy he sounds hideous, 0/10 I would rather fuck a hornet's nest than him
Of course if I was a female and I let this be known he would probably sulk and throw a bitch-fit because Chads can't handle anyone who is immune to them, their heads asplode
He'd look great on your mantelpiece dead and stuffed
>>25606109
life's unfair ya cuck. you could be huffing turds in a bucket somewhere in africa but yr not.
>>25606848
>promoted twice in a short amount of time
>short
that's how it works bruh
you think you'd be 6'1 without the same mechanism favoring your ancestors?
life is shit, people are manipulative cunts, ultimately ignorant of their place amongst the stars, barely struggling to survive. the only saving grace are these beautiful people who possess all the right mutations, the true top 1% and future of humanity.
Women would leave you in a heartbeat for his dick, doesn't matter who you are. His genes are worth more than a billion dollars because men are in general worthless. Only the top percent have any value.
>>25609224
Holy shit fucking drama queen. Nice story why don't you post in on reddit. My condolences though.
>>25609379
>>25609461
>butthurt niggers
get back to the cotton fields
>>25606263
>>25606825
>>25608729
>key word is Chad
If you guys are on /r9k/, all the intelligence you had couldn't and didn't save you from autism.
>>25606109
>my subhuman rat face staring back at me
holy fuck I can't stop laughing mate.
Attractive people have it much better and easier in life, more news at 6
>AMOG
dare I ask what this stands for?
>>25606109
At least you're average looking and living a relatively good life than being handsome af and living in a shithole. Yeah, it would be nice to be both attractive and living a good life, but you can't have it all.
Anyway, physical attractiveness isn't everything.
>>25610093
Alpha Male Of the Group
>>25610200
>Anyway, physical attractiveness isn't everything.
Speaking as an attractive male i say this is not true.
I get treaded so good just because i'm always the most attractive and well dressed person at any venue. i have flaws like a jew nose and some acne but still people always assume i'm the alpha monkey of the group because of my looks
desu it gets boring after a while when you realise that looks are just something you're born with and nothing to be proud of
>>25610274
Post picture? And of course being attractive means a lot, but I'm trying to say that the OP shouldn't get depressed over it, since it's not the only thing that matters.
>>25606109
Man, if seeing someone more attractive than you destroys your entire sense of self, and crushes your ego, maybe you're the problem.
No matter where you go, there's always gonna be someone better, but the fact that this dude intimidated you to the point of it destroying you entire sense of self simply by him existing and being attractive just says you're an insecure idiot to me.
Excel at something you enjoy, that's what makes you "chad", and excellence comes nearly completely from persistence, not genetics or whatever the fuck boogieman you guys are on about this month.
Oh yeah, and I can guarantee that if you do literally fucking everything in your life in the hopes of attracting a woman, not only will you be miserable, but you probably never will. Do shit for you, women should be peripheral.
>>25610390
>Excel at something you enjoy, that's what makes you "chad", and excellence comes nearly completely from persistence, not genetics or whatever the fuck boogieman you guys are on about this month.
Wrong. Chad is all about looks. How long have you even been here? Fucking newfaggot normalfaggot dog
>>25610415
Except it's not. Plenty of chads are just average looking, there's very, very few legit 9/10's walking around the streets, and they're also putting a lot of work into their looks.
Seriously, pretty much anyone can be at least a 7, if you're moderately fit (lift), have good skin(don't be super pale, get some sunlight, see a dermatologist if you have bad acne or really red skin or something) and has a good haircut(see a good stylist) and fashion sense(do your own research, don't wear cringy shit that doesn't fit you).
Seriously, you make it out like it's all genetics, but being attractive is pretty simply really, you don't need a super defined jawline and cheekbones to be decent looking, play up your strengths.
And apart from that, yes, excellence at anything is what makes you more socially valuable. A great guitarist is more popular than a random faggot with a guitar, a skilled artist is more valuable than someone drawing shitty doodles on his schoolbook, a great athlete is more impressive than a random out of shape guy.
Also, accept that not everyone is going to like you. Plenty of people hate "chads", because not everyone is compatible. Not everyone is interested in an athlete, or an artist, or a musician, or whatever hobby you might have.
But no-one is attracted to mediocrity.
>>25606109
> zero effort
> physically fit
> wears good/fitting clothes
> says the right things
"My God I'll never even try to play piano. Everyone else at the concerts are so good and they DON'T EVEN TRY! ~Literally~ never practiced or made a mistake"
Come on Anon. You're envy is a sign of what you want. Now that you know what you want (to be physically attractive), set goals to achieve it.
Honestly you'll never be 10/10 Chad. But your 4/10 ass could be an 8/10 ass, and you'll be looked up to like him whenever he and his 9/10 friend isn't around.
At least fucking try. For us?
>>25610542
>all these normalfag platitudes
hahaha, hownew.ru/dumbcunt
Thank fuck you didn't pull out the ~jUsT bE yOuRSeLf~ routine, so I gotta give you points for originality
>>25610606
>Now that you know what you want (to be physically attractive), set goals to achieve it.
You can't change your skeletal structure, you idiot. You can't grow a foot taller, you can't grow a big jaw, you can't grow big cheekbones, you can grow a big, masculine skull, you can't grow wider shoulders, etc
It's all down to genes and environment during developmental years (womb, pre-puberty, and puberty)
Fuck yourself.
>>25610643
You sound like people who blame genes for their obesity.
No shit there are limitations at birth. As I said, no one here will be 10/10 Chad. Aim for 8/10 or anything above what you are.
Source: 4 months in gym, 20lbs fat lost and SOME muscle. Not even close to done and the social results are astonishing. I'm not anonymous irl anymore. People notice me, girls smile.
Yes you'll never be Chad, yes you'll never be born into a wealthy family of renowned scientists.
Can we allow ourselves to get past that?
>>25609379
Go back to tumblr, you fucking communist fuck. I bet you're going to vote for Bernie, SJW libcuck.
>>25610743
>You sound like people who blame genes for their obesity.
No. Skeletal structure cannot be changed, but bodyfat can. You sound like you're trying to strawman me as some tumblr fat bitch. Not going to work
>No shit there are limitations at birth. As I said, no one here will be 10/10 Chad. Aim for 8/10 or anything above what you are.
Even 8/10 is impossible for most men.
>Source: 4 months in gym, 20lbs fat lost and SOME muscle. Not even close to done and the social results are astonishing. I'm not anonymous irl anymore. People notice me, girls smile.
That just means you had a good facial structure under your fat. Why are you assuming I'm fat? I've been lifting for 3 years and my bodyfat has been under 10% for 4 months now. My face is still ugly. Go fuck yourself.
>Yes you'll never be Chad, yes you'll never be born into a wealthy family of renowned scientists.
Fuck yourself
>Can we allow ourselves to get past that?
Go fuck yourself, normalfaggot chad
>>25610787
At what point do you accept it and move on?
>>25610812
When normals like you stop browsing this board
>>25610618
Yeah, you're trying way, way too hard dude. I agree that "bee urself" is fucking shit advice though, because it just says keep doing what you're doing, which evidently isn't working.
>>25610643
You don't need a big jaw to be attractive though, plenty of attractive people don't have huge square jaws. But being really low bodyfat can really, really improve your facial aesthetics, if you don't already have a lower amount of fat deposits in your face.
>>25610787
>You've been lifting for 3 years with a bf under 10%
>Don't even understand basic shit like how you can increase your shoulder width, or how by virtue of having good muscles you've given yourself massive potential
Or
>You've never even fucking touched a weight, and are 25%+ bf
>You also have no knowledge of lifting at all
Until you post a timestamped bodypic, I think we all know which is the truth here.
Also, you can increase your shoulder width by lifting, bigger delts = wider shoulders.
>>25606109
Reminds me of this qts boyfriend that I knew. He looked like a literal real life Snow (pic related). I'm 6'1 and he towered over be too. Super wide shoulders and a super built body.Do you live in Ohio?
You can ever be a 10, but if you work very hard you can become an 8, or a 7 if you're ugly. Bellow 5'7 and 6 is the best you can hope for, however.
>>25610859
>>Don't even understand basic shit like how you can increase your shoulder width, or how by virtue of having good muscles you've given yourself massive potential
What are those muscles attached to? Your fucking skeleton.
shoulder width before lifting: 16"
shoulder width after lifting: 18"
18" is the average shoulder width for an adult male. So after 3 fucking years of lifting, I now have average shoulder width! WOW, AMAZING!!
Go fuck yourself.
>You don't need a big jaw to be attractive though, plenty of attractive people don't have huge square jaws. But being really low bodyfat can really, really improve your facial aesthetics, if you don't already have a lower amount of fat deposits in your face.
My chin looks like the guy on the right in this pic >>25610828
But my chin is even more receded. Tell me that's attractive, you fucking normalcunt
>>25610859
>Don't even understand basic shit like how you can increase your shoulder width
Not him but I've been lifting and increased my shoulder width, but how do I make my upper torso wider. I look great with my arms crossed, but with them down I look like shit. Making my pecks bigger also makes me look good from an angle, but front-on it doesn't affect my silhouette at all.
Advice?
>>25608729
>Measuring out of 2400 instead of 1600
Newfag get out.
>>25610978
>shoulder width before lifting: 16"
>shoulder width after lifting: 18"
>18" is the average shoulder width for an adult male. So after 3 fucking years of lifting, I now have average shoulder width! WOW, AMAZING!!
At least you don't have narrow shoulder anymore buddy, I've done the same, but it still looks odd since I have wide hip-bones. I'm not giving up though, I can always keep making my top-half bigger.
>>25610978
Congratulations, now no-one will look at you and go "Wow, that guy has narrow shoulders", they'll see muscle and no abnormal thinness.
Also
>Bulk to bearmode
>You now have 19 or 20" shoulders
>But my chin is even more receded
There's so many damn surgeries for situations like this that you could have had done.
And even without it, say you had the absolute worst genetics ever (you don't), you lifting has given you a change with plenty of women, and also the ability to pursue any number of other hobbies you might be interested in.
But this is all just hypotheticals where you'll find a reason why you can't succeed in order to continue the narrative until an actual timestamped body/face pic is posted.
>>25611037
I'd say that apart from the obvious of working delts, that lats and back are just as important, if not more in developing that strong, wide look than any other muscle.
It's hard for me to say without some idea of your proportions though, can you post a current bodypic or at least shoulders/waist width?
>>25611093
>plastic surgery
not him but he is right. its about having a handsome face and unless your born with it or get plastic surgery (lying about your genes) then theres nothing you can do. ok maybe if your fat but if your just skinny already and your ugly then getting buffed wont even fix that
your such a damn retard theres no point in arguing with you
>>25611165
He's bitching about skeletal structure being completely unchangeable, when it's not really anymore, if it bothers you that much, there's ways you can go about changing that.
And the point brought up in this thread is that you don't need amazing genetics to be attractive. Even below average can become above average if you find your strengths, and play on them. No-one can be attractive and give it no thought at all, no matter how great your genetics are. A 10/10 who makes no effort to maintain that will drop to a 5/10 really damn quickly.
Also, just going
>no you're wrong and dumb
Isn't an argument. What evidence do you have that it's "all about having a handsome face"? And how do you explain people that have average or below average faces yet are still massive successes, or people who're ugly but become attractive by changing their general style?
Your entire argument, even ignoring the rest of the massive jumps in logic (I see happy attractive people, I am unhappy and not attractive, therefore I am unhappy because I am not attractive), relies entirely on some arbitrary standard of attractiveness, ignoring taste and the incredible variation of what is attractive.
AMOG of the GODS
>>25611165
It's pretty much proven that genes don't determine facial attractiveness.
>>25611093
>Height
6'1
>shoulders
17"
>waist
8.5"
>hips
11.5"
I think I just got bad with low testosterone and too much estrogen. My shoulders used to be 15.5, so even tough it's only an inch and a half it makes a big difference.
>>25606109
Nice blog, Elliot. You should write a manifest.
>>25611398
You've definitely got some decent genetics there, there's an opportunity for a good v-taper, which is what I'd work on. Work your upper back and shoulders in particular, your shoulders aren't massive, but you can easily get another inch or so on them I'd imagine, and bigger upper back/lats will really help them look wider in comparison to your quite thin waist and hips.
Don't neglect your other main compounds though, obviously, keep doing deads and squats, your core isn't going to get super thick from doing them, and it's important to stay balanced.
I doubt it's got anything to do with testosterone/estrogen, either, they really don't have much effect on your shoulder width. Not in a simple high test = wide shoulders sort of way at least. If you've put on a decent amount of muscle, your test is fine.
>>25611504
Thanks, I look I ton better than I used to so I know it's worth perusing. I've been relying in body weight and a barbell until now. Is there anything I can do for my lats here or do I really need to start going to a gym?
>be really good looking
>don't have the same presence as that guy due to being so young looking
Not trying to brag but I've had tons of compliments and even had people ask if I'm a model, but the thing is, I look so fucking young.
I'm 24 and often get I'd for 18+ stuff. The other day I got ID for something you need to be 16 to buy...
Maybe in 10 years.
>>25611708
Here I tell you an example. Happy can also have the synonym blissful or elated.
>>25611704
You can definitely work lats without a gym, I personally use weighted pullups or chinups. You might need to buy a weights belt to hold the plates, but there's no reason you'd need machines to work lats.
And weighted pullups are exactly what they sound like, you just strap on whatever weight you're up to, and do pullups with that attached, they work great for lats.
>>25606109
Feels like you were talking about me,
I'm 6'6", and often feel like a god based on my size. Always heads turning my way, looked up and down etc. Looking down on everyone I see, literally.
Feelsgoodman
>>25611924
this bait is legit
not srs
>tfw you see women eye fucking chad and it makes you feel like trash
>>25611954
Just think anon, all that time you spend watching women look at him, you're missing the amount of people that might be eyefucking you.
>>25611970
>missing the amount of people that might be eyefucking you.
Where the fuck do you think you are?
>>25612010
Low self esteem doesn't always correlate with someone's actual qualities anon. You can have complete dysmorphia and think you're the hottest shit ever when you're likely not
(see >>25611924 ) or think that you're ugly and worthless while actually being quite attractive.
>>25611708
Older women don't seem too bothered with me but Jailbait love me...
Was at the movies last week with my bud waiting to get in to see star wars and some fucking stunning arab looking girl with huge tits walked past with her friends. She was eye fucking the shit out of me she sort of did a 'gasp' and bit her lip. It was so, so fucking hot.
>>25611924
They look at you like they'd look at those Siamese two-headed freak twins. You think they are mirin, but really the only thing they're thinking is where the fuck did that thing come from? Is it human?
>>25611872
Thanks. I guess I'll have to buy a pullup bar, but it's cheaper than the gym.
