>one week into no fap
>suddenly can take enjoyment again from old music and other interests
Feels good to stop over stimulating and abusing the reward center of my brain. More dopamine to make me happy, motivated and give me energy throughout the day rather than just using it all while fapping.
bro science master race tbfh
>>25487089
>one week into no fap
>gf and I are on the verge of maybe a breakup for good
>Broke last night
Couldn't keep it together, I start again.
>>25487124
basic biology actually its not that hard. Porn addiction and stimulation has scientifically been proven to abuse the reward centers of the brain like drugs. You can deplete your dopamine completely, just ask any meth user who tries to use a pipe over and over again and cant get high. after eating nothing and being awake for several days.
>>25487140
I feel your pain bro.
my gf left me on the second.
I'm not broke, so I traveled a little with my remaining vacation time.
now I'm back at home, alone, bored, and trying not to break.
>>25487150
What broniversity did you get your degree at?
>>25487157
She says she still loves me and wants to be in a relationship with me, wants to take a break though to sort things out. Waiting for her to end it on facebook, then I will know she doesn't want to publicly be seen with me.
>>25487169
Nun. I just passed high school biology, not to sound rude. Dopamine is your pleasure reward chemical. It is the one that makes you feel good, understand? Every time you feel good it is because that chemical is being released into your synapses in your brain. Also the correlation with effects of porn on the brain compared to drug addiction is found here. A Cambridge University study. Stay weak minded.
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brain-activity-in-sex-addiction-mirrors-that-of-drug-addiction
>>25487089
>one month into no fap
>I am growing stronger every day now
>feel more energetic, more alive, more confident
>swagger through the streets, bitches giving me looks, I give them a wink if they're lucky
>go to bars, lean on bar with one elbow and order drinks without looking at the barman
>eye up all the women, they're all trying so obviously hard to play it cool and not look at me
>dick has grown larger, gained at least an inch
>erections are stronger
>I can now sense female arousal from almost a hundred metres
>Fingers have acquired magical powers of arousal - whenever I touch my own dick it springs up hard as diamonds straight away
>Use this ability and touch women on their bare skin whenever I can, they try and hide their arousal but I can sense it
>Powers are growing stronger, now I can pretty much get a reaction from women just by staring at them
>Gaining superhuman strength as well
>Can feel the ability to fly and turn invisible coming soon also, looking forward to using them for the betterment of humanity
>Decide to demonstrate my superhuman strength to some girls in a bar
>Squat down and try to lift the bar
>It's not moving
>Barman looks at me "You okay bro?"
>"Yeah," I said "Just using my nofap powers, hold on"
>SNAP
>Back breaks
>Girls laughing
>Ambulance arrives
>Hot nurse touches me
>GNNGNNAAWWWW SHIIITTT
>explode in my pants
>tfw no more superpowers
>>25487236
nice meme bruh, but very unoriginal. Seen posts like this before.
Only fools mock others.
>>25487089
that guy isnt even a midget hes litterly a normal human being who got scaled down twice as small
>>25487236
comment is unoriginal. fail
>>25487169
I actually went to a brocademy
Welp. I'm guess I'm the sole survivor.
>>25487191
I know how that goes. this one wants to be friends afterwards. i just don't see how it'll work because I knew her few a few weeks before we started dating for the past 17 months.
how does one "just be friends" after that?
> 1 month no fap challenge
> done it
>results? none
restart fapping again
true fucking story
more energy? happiness? more women? bullshits
>>25487456
No, day 4 here. Feeling fine. I've quit smoking and drinking, so I feel stronger that I've got past experience. I don't like to admit it, but perhaps being 35 is easier than trying to do it at 20. Still fapped every day though. I really think quitting indulgences is a great thing; my life has improved a lot since quitting smoking and drinking. Here's to a Spartan lifestyle.
>>25487456
Im still up as well. My record was 37 days. Started a no fap again in the new year so in day 4.
IMHO no fap is easy as long as you get past day 12, after that it only gets easier.
>>25487236
bes reen text i read tis week
>>25487089
Don't believe any of this no fap nonsense
I don't understand why you think it's helping you in terms of health/mental.
Masturbation is healthy no?
It gets rid of potentially dangerous chemicals in seamen that would othwise lie in your balls
It's not like your giving up smoking or drinking or drugs. Going on about all the free time. HOW OFTEN DID YOU USED TO FAP TO SUDDENLY GET SO MUH FREE TIME?
>>25487949
>It gets rid of potentially dangerous chemicals in seamen that would othwise lie in your balls
And people in this thread are accusing me of bro science kek. You are weak minded and mad. Semen gets absorbed backed into your blood stream after a while of no fap and your body no longer focuses on constantly refilling your seamen and wasting its resources on it.
>>25487949
It's BS. I've stopped for a week and had not seen any difference in my productivity. If anything fapping relieves stress
ye thats why chad has sex everyday and feels like shit right? lol
>>25487089
whats this vebm
>>25487989
>And people in this thread are accusing me of bro science kek.
>posts bro science
kek, indeed.
>>25487206
Masturbating doesn't mean you have sex addiction. The study even says that healthy individuals who masturbate don't show the same signs.
>>25487998
It gets rids of stress short term but overall it makes you depressed and unmotivated and actually increases stress. Why are you people so weak minded? Drug addicts literally have the same arguments as you guys.
>DUDE, WEED is good for you it reduces stres
>Nah, dope is good for you. It helps relieves my stress and makes me confident.
But when you come off it, you feel even more horrible.
If you want a balance mood and attitude stop over stimulating your brain through fapping and pornography. Stop being so dependent on dopamine and abusing it. Learn to take pleasure from everyday things instead of fapping.
>>25487236
Things like this are why I nofap.
>>25488036
>So they have a sort of recycle time. And sperm that have reached their sell-by-date get broken down in the same way that, lets say, blood cells get broken down. And basically any of the nutrients and goodies in the sperm just get recycled back inside the body, and new sperm are produced to make up for the shortage.
Your question is answered by a literal doctor: http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/2470/
>>25488049
People who chronically fap have nothing to do because of already being secluded from society and the only joy they can feel is from mastorbating. They are already depressed so by stroking the log it can't get any worser. Normies like you can take nofap by being distracted with friends and other normie tier shit.
>>25488044
>>25488036
>>25488006
>>25487998
>>25487949
>>25487540
>>25487236
>>25487124
The devil is real guys. He's deceived all these people into continuing their self destructive habit. They don't even realize they're hurting themselves. They're eating their own flesh and too foolish to understand it. Pic related is them.
>>25488145
I'm an 19 year old ugly, poor(live off 1000 dollars a month only), manlet(5"7), white male virgin who just graduated high school a semester late from an online school. I have no parents and I work a job cleaning feces, pushing carts and at a cafe just to survive. I bike everyday to work 7 miles even in 30 degree weather. I live across the street from Mexican cartel drug dealers and all the minorities in the ghetto where I live give me dirty looks. I've tried tinder and never got any match whatsoever. You are a normie, I have nothing in my life nor do I have real friends. My present for Christmas was getting attacked by a tweaker outside who was looking to fight/rob me outside my apartment.
>>25488256
Also as OP I am doing no fap because I'm tired of being a slave to women. I've accepted I'll never have sex and I'll never have a girlfriend. So I want to free myself from women and end my misery which stems from these sexual desires that go unfulfilled and are kept alive through my porn watching and fapping which creates a constant state of high libido and thus emptiness because I can't fulfill these desires completely.
i'd nofap but that increase testosterone levels
All these people crying that it's a placebo are fucking idiots. So what if it's a placebo? Placebos are very effective, sometimes even moreso than real medicine. Also, you can know something is a placebo and still get the benefits from it according to research, so don't act like you're enlightened state will stop it from working.
>>25487089
Is sexual contact not allowed during no fap? I feel like justifying sex is like saying "I only drink when i'm with friends" to justify an alcohol problem.
>>25488256
>works three jobs
>1000 a month
Try to make your lies more believable next time.
>start no fap
>going great
>get high or drunk
>lose
Every single time.
>>25488145
>So by stroking the log it can't get worse
Yes. Yes it can. Masturbating everyday keeps you down. It keeps you soul less, without energy, forever trapped in that pit.
I don't think I am in the mood of trying to convince anyone today. So do as you see fit, just know that some of us have known the glorious feeling of rediscovered energy. Movies are suddenly better, vidya is fun again. Suddenly going jogging doesn't feel like a chore. That's not superpowers, but it is sweet.
>>25488330
well most people here who nofap do it to stop porn addiction or to utilise broscience to get sex from real girls so sexual contact is allowed by most (unless you're a religious cuck, but no one cares about the opinion of anyone who believes in God)
Sex masterrace reporting in
>>25488256
>>25488292
When you please yourself you are not doing it for the females. You are doing it to pleasure yourself. Your whole reason not to fap is because of women, you are literally being cuckd by feminist by not "virtually raping them".
What makes you enjoy life if it's not for fapping?
>>25487089
>no fap
>not living your life as though it had meaning and your choices can influence the world
i have an understanding of the basic theological underpinnings of ejaculation, often coincidential with my other pretty much inane studies. this is how much of a faggot i am.
so for all the fellow idiots out there, here's the heavily abridged version.
better to just blow your fucking load if you're going to take your dick out, forget about it
porn is bad. your brain probably thinks you're in the corner of the room licking your balls like the family dog
nofap isn't a cure. it's not a panacea. you can use it to either jump-start your libido or get it under control. if you want to have a normal sex drive, the last place you want to start is here, asking me. if you have to, take the "blue" pill, which is the same fucking thing only you internalize the conflict and turmoils in your life and fix them like a responsible adult would.
it's a basic concept of life in the modern world. people who are constantly stressed get numb to cortisol, which also prevents inflammation, and when they spent all that time trying to deal with shit they end up even worse off. it's the same thing with the sex drive. the lower your self esteem, the more you think and are worried about things, the worse you're going to feel, your nights are going to be restless, you'll wake up in the middle of the night. you'll externalize your libidinal problems and attribute it to a higher power, like a government agency or your gay-assed genetics or supernatural entities you impregnate to through your shame-drenched ejaculate.
i'm saying don't freak out about that stuff. lift some weights or go for a run, learn something, meditate, cut the garbage out of your life, be a responsible fucking dad and do right by your blasphemous imagined progeny.
>>25488044
healthy individuals don't have these problems. having chronic mental illness isn't healthy.
>>25488352
I don't work three jobs. I work one job where I am trained in multiple areas. A cart pusher doen't push carts all day we also clean the bathrooms and do other stuff. Do you really think customers take carts that fast? Sometimes I work at the cafe at my job place because I am trained there as well. Don't call me a liar.
>>25488404
>having chronic mental illness isn't healthy.
By the looks of your rambling manifesto I'd say you'd know all about that. Lose the trip faggot, return to the fold. Who the fuck do you think you are?
HELP
I am about to lose to:
https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1451921843069.webm
I need to stay away from /r9k/, so many good titties and asses get posted on here
>>25488495
and that wasn't my rambling manifesto
>>25488166
"God" is a being entranced in eternal masturbation.. for he needs no other to exist, yet causes other to aprong forth from himself.
Life is the greatest self destructive habit Anon
You are the devil. Misleading others with your false light, and false symbolism. Drown in your ignorance.
Who else is nofap for religious reasons?
>>25487236
Fuxkin lol bro
>>25488579
You are causing confusing and using backwards ideology to deceive others. You are like the devil as I said. Devils deceive fools.
>>25487489
>>25487191
>waiting while your girlfriend gets "sorted out"
>>25488648
>backwards ideology
You don't even know what this phrase means. But nevertheless Satan, you can keep going on preaching false hopes and disunity... you will save no one in your darkness. Especially not yourself.
>>25488648
>You are causing confusing and using backwards ideology to deceive others. You are like the devil as I said. Devils deceive fools.
He's right about one part though, everything was simply created for God's entertainment, an ALL KNOWING god does not need to TEST humanity, his actions contradict his powers so this must be for his entertainment.
>>25488658
Let the cuck be. She'll come back pregnant, we all know it.
I had a hands free orgasm the other day. Does that count?
>>25488369
You're right. No. No it can't. Masturbating everyday keeps you up. It keeps you full of spirit, energized, forever in a state of bliss.
I don't think I am in the mood of trying to convince anyone today. So do as you see fit, just know that some of us have known the glorious feeling of rediscovered energy. Movies are suddenly better, vidya is fun again. Suddenly going jogging doesn't feel like a chore. That's not superpowers, but it is sweet.
>>25488956
Ok Satan bro. Whatever you say.
>>25489160
Can the real Satan please stand up?
>>25487089
angry-mini-oyvey.webm
you do realize that jerking off once a day stop prostate cancer, right?
you no fap retards are literally increasing your chances of getting cancer.
>>25489160
Seriously though, all you nofap faggots, please stop with the lies created by your delusions (placebo effect), masturbation is basically what keeps me going, when I don't I'm stressed, horny, not focused, etc.
I'm a uni student, so imgaine sitting in a room for hours on end trying to focus and learn shit you couldn't give one fuck about, now imagine trying to do this in a room surrounded by qt's while horny, common sense morons, masturbation is a tool, a leisure activity, if you don't understand this yet then you're doing it wrong.
>>25489312
>you do realize that jerking off once a day stop prostate cancer, right?
Exactly, its like these morons don't even use google, I went like 2 weeks without masturbating recently (without trying, just wasn't feeling the urge for a while) and the cum was fucking brownish, googled and found out its because its filled with OLD AND DYING SPERM, that's what these morons HAVE IN THEIR DICK and that was just from 2 weeks, these guys go for months, nofap is like forcefully holding a shit in your body and pretending it has benefits kek.
>>25489357
>Seriously though, all you nofap faggots, please stop with the lies created by your delusions (placebo effect), cocaine is basically what keeps me going, when I don't I'm stressed, horny, not focused, etc.
>I'm a uni student, so imgaine sitting in a room for hours on end trying to focus and learn shit you couldn't give one fuck about, now imagine trying to do this in a room surrounded by cocaine while cocaine, common sense morons, cocaine is a tool, a cocaine activity, if you don't understand this yet then cocaine cocaine cocaine cocaine.
>>25488372
>unless you're a religious cuck, but no one cares about the opinion of anyone who believes in God)
>>25487089
yr a liar and you know it you fucking faggot
>doing rows of nofap of 7-14 days
>feeling great and confident, getting mires of the woman neighbours
>new years eve and i fucking binge a lot for 5 days aprox (2 faps per day maybe)
>already feeling the autism, bodylanguage betaness and awkwardness creeping back in my social interactions
not today you fucking autism, not today
starting now again
>>25489468
>>I'm a uni student, so imgaine sitting in a room for hours on end trying to focus and learn shit you couldn't give one fuck about, now imagine trying to do this in a room surrounded by cocaine while cocaine, common sense morons, cocaine is a tool, a cocaine activity, if you don't understand this yet then cocaine cocaine cocaine cocaine.
I can't even, you are the most retarded individual on the earth, literally anyone could come up with a better analogy, not to mention that cocaine can kill you and masturbation can't, that's for proving my point ;)
>>25489591
fapping because you don't want prostate cancer is retarded, because prostate cancer starts when you are old as fuck you moron
also, prostate cancer is linked with high testosterone and big balls, so obviously if masturbation prevents prostate cancer it's because it makes you a pussy
>ended up edging for a while yesterday but put my dick away before coming
Does this break my nofap streak?
>>25488507
>landwhale
>septum piercing
fucking shit taste kill yourself
>>25489591
It's more the fact that you type like your high on cocaine. Re read your post and tell me you don't sound like ADHD personified.
>>25489657
It depends. Did you feel down like you just had an orgasm? That would indicate a dopamine spike.
>>25489638
>fapping because you don't want prostate cancer is retarded, because prostate cancer starts when you are old as fuck you moron
Nobody is fapping to avoid prostate cancer moron, were just listing an obvious benefit which you stupid fucks never bother to research.
Also prostate cancer CAN OCCUR at around 65+ but it isn't instant you complete retard, it starts around that time due to damage that takes place OVER THE YEARS, that's why research says that men who masturbate regularly REDUCE THOSE CHANCES because it happens OVER TIME, can you fucking read moron, go do some researc, its sounds as if you're saying some nonsense like you could start masturbating around 60 and have the same odds as someone who masturbates since 18, it doesn't work like that moron.
>also, prostate cancer is linked with high testosterone and big balls, so obviously if masturbation prevents prostate cancer it's because it makes you a pussy
>Side Effects Of Prostate Cancer Treatment:
Prostate cancer treatment can cause sexual side effects, including erectile dysfunction, decreased sex drive (libido) and infertility. Erectile dysfunction (ED) is the inability to achieve an erection or maintain it long enough for sexual intercourse.
Lol so I can end up with a useless fucked up dick and ball sack or I can be viewed as a "pussy" by nofap faggots.............. for some reason I choose the latter ;)
>>25489775
at 65 you will not be fucking anything at all even if you try
>>25489775
Your dick would probably be pretty useless by 65 anyways.
Why are you so angry? Do your brain feel the need to protect it's main source of dopamine rushes?
>>25489690
>It's more the fact that you type like your high on cocaine. Re read your post and tell me you don't sound like ADHD personified.
1. These lame memes about turning mental conditions into a joke are really pointless and lame, please make an actual coherent argument or just stfu, thank you ;)
2. A lot of so called "conditions" make no fucking sense and proves why a lot of people consider psychology to be pseudoscience, its more likely that people are just exhibiting a behavior than it is a condition.
For example look at this retarded shit: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/oppositional-defiant-disorder/basics/definition/con-20024559
Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD)
People (especially children) who disobey are being labelled with disorder lol, that makes no fucking sense, how about we take it a step further and classify cheap/frugal people - Expenditure Avoidance Disorder (EAD), do you see where this goes, you can call anything a condition, some of these things are legit but a lot of increasing bullshit is being created today.
>>25489834
>Why are you so angry?
>Was the guy who called be a pussy ago angry or did you not see that?
>Do your brain feel the need to protect it's main source of dopamine rushes?
>Aren't the people using ad hominems saying I have ADHD or I'm on cocaine (lol) simply just protecting their fragile masochistic BS theory
You bias is showing
>>25489775
The risk of cancer increases with age because the bodies ability to fix genetic defects has slowly degraded over time.
I did some researc:
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=198487
Results During 222 426 person-years of follow-up, there were 1449 new cases of total prostate cancer, 953 organ-confined cases, and 147 advanced cases of prostate cancer. Most categories of ejaculation frequency were unrelated to risk of prostate cancer. However, high ejaculation frequency was related to decreased risk of total prostate cancer. The multivariate relative risks for men reporting 21 or more ejaculations per month compared with men reporting 4 to 7 ejaculations per month at ages 20 to 29 years were 0.89 (95% confidence interval [CI], 0.73-1.10); ages 40 to 49 years, 0.68 (95% CI, 0.53-0.86); previous year, 0.49 (95% CI, 0.27-0.88); and averaged across a lifetime, 0.67 (95% CI, 0.51-0.89). Similar associations were observed for organ-confined prostate cancer. Ejaculation frequency was not statistically significantly associated with risk of advanced prostate cancer.
Conclusions Our results suggest that ejaculation frequency is not related to increased risk of prostate cancer. THIS MEANS NOFAP DOESN'T INCREASE PROSTATE CANCER RISK.
They mentioned that men who ejaculated at least 21 times a month had less than 1% reduced risk.
Is that 1% worth your sanity and self control?
>wake up early
>lay in bed because cold and i want to cuddle something
>fall asleep when dick was semi hard, couldnt stop thinking about fucking things
>wake up and im ejaculating
its only been 4 days, nocturnal emissions are on the rise
>>25489970
>They mentioned that men who ejaculated at least 21 times a month had less than 1% reduced risk
Yes, men that EJACULATED, so I guess you guys plan on not having sex either, because that must also affect your sanity and self control
>Is that 1% worth your sanity and self control?
Please tell me moron how it affects my sanity and self control
>Men can't go without food so we are forced to eat
>Men can't go without water so we are forced to drink
>Men can't go without air so we are forced to breathe
>Men can't go without entertainment so we spent years creating various forms (art, plays, tv, movies, music, etc)
>Men can't go without sex............ nah this is different (no fap logic)
So even though you morons would never do "no entertainment" WHICH YOU ACTUALLY FEEL NO BIOLOGICAL CRAVINGS FOR, you do "no fap" to suppress a biological craving that is almost on par with hunger, thirst, etc, you guys are complete retards, why don't you guys just do "no entertainment", turn off that internet connection and fuck off lol, because media has much more of an effect on your brain that masturbation.
>>25490103
>not knowing the difference between what we need to survive and choice
>MFW choice and "forced" have the same meaning
>>25490103
The people who do nofap are particularly avoiding porn, which is a super stimulus. If you are hungry you eat, but you don't eat 50 lbs of food. If you are thirsty you don't drink 10 gallons of water.
Before internet porn, sexual urges were handled with masturbating to more or less tame playboy magazines, your own thoughts, or you went to and found a woman.
Porn hijacks the reward system by causing a massive dopamine spike any time you feel the urge. This spike and the rebound from it has side effects like low energy, reduced ability to socialize, reduced general self control, and depression. This is what many people experience including myself.
I know I won't convince, and frankly I don't care. If you like fapping, fap away. Beat your dick raw. But some people are negatively affected by it, and want to stop.
>>25490185
>not knowing the difference between what we need to survive and choice
Oh yeah you're right, I somehow got the false idea that to our subconscious brain sexual activity = reproduction = survival of the species, silly me, I kinda thought reproduction was what allowed humanity itself to survive and therefore our brains are programmed to inhibit urges to be sexually active, man I need to do some research -_-
>>MFW choice and "forced" have the same meaning
Mfw you are a complete retarded with terrible reading and comprehension skills
>>25490103
I masturbate 8 times a day, go on, tell me it is because of a "biological craving".It's destroying my dick and libido and I need it to stop, it has become like eating candy or taking a bath, it's just a way to pass the time now.
So let me answer you
>What is eating disorder ?
>What is internet/tv/whatever addiction ?
Normal people don't need to cut down fapping it's obvious, but we aren't normal, that's why we "need" nofap.
>>25490309
What do you fap to Anon?
>>25490271
So having sex with my hand will give arise to offspring?
>>25490328
Doujinshis and imagination (I hang out with a ton of girls so I have plenty of material to work with)
>>>25490192
>side effects like low energy, reduced ability to socialize, reduced general self control, and depression.
Assuming people who masturbate never experienced these effects before
>>25490192
>If you are hungry you eat, but you don't eat 50 lbs of food. If you are thirsty you don't drink 10 gallons of water.
False analogy, if not please show me how masturbation fits on the scale of analogy are you doing to say some bullshit like - "you edge and play with yourself but you don't full ejaculate", your analogy here makes no fucking sense, it doesn't fit, there is no scale for masturbation, you either do it or don't, its not like eating or drinking where there are amounts that can be consumed, and if you say the scale is the AMOUNT OF TIMES ONE MASTURBATES then, I'd give you this news flash - nobody is saying to masturbation 100 fucking times a day, that's not even possible, I can go at most 2 times a day, so there is no way for me to even "overdose" on dopamine or some bullshit like that.
>low energy, reduced ability to socialize, reduced general self control, and depression. This is what many people experience including myself.
1. I have low energy when I'm horny as fuck, it keeps me from focusing on other things
2. Masturbation does not reduce your ABILITY to socialize it more reduces your WANT to socialize, and if the only way you'd want to socialize is to basically trick yourself into being horny and compelled to seek out sex, then aren't you just doing something equally as fucked up for your mental stability, forced socializing, obligation friendships and associations, you're more fucked up I'd argue, your entire life is a sham, fake, you never show your true self.
3. Reduced self control over what?, you seem to be using circular logic here, because the only factor in control you guys mention is masturbating (ejaculating), so your argument is that masturbation reduces your self control........ against masturbation (ejaculating)............. no shit sherlock!
4. I get depressed when I'm horny all the time, nofap is the equivalent of someone purposefully dieting so they're always hungry and hailing it as a positive.
>>25490349
>So having sex with my hand will give arise to offspring?
Again retard, terrible reading and comprehension skills, I said subconscious. Here's a little knowledge for you, your subconscious mind controls many involuntary responses and urges your body has e.g. breathing, the example I'm going to use is digestion, when you are EATING FOOD (mechanical digestion) the subconscious part of your brain detects this and tells the body to produces the enzymes and acids required for chemical digestion in the stomach, when you are CHEWING GUM guess what happens........... THE EXACT SAME THING, do you know why, because your SUBCONSCIOUS MIND CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE. To your subconscious mind when you are being aroused by a naked woman in a video it is as though you are actually withtthat woman, when you are masturabting it is as though you are having sex and reproducing, it can't tell the difference, it isn't "context sensitive", and if it was MASTURBATION WOULD NOT EVEN BE POSSIBLE (porn would be useless) because that erection that you get is a result of the subconscious part of the brain commanding the body to rush blood to your penis.
Do you understand now?
>>25490452
I'm >>25490309
I never once felt like I masturbated "enough" for the day,hell , I know could masturbate all fucking day If I wanted
I agree with you on the restexcept number 3, you're obviously pulling a strawman on this one and it's not workingbut don't go assuming your situation is the same as anyone else's you CAN overdose masturbation, like everything else, and if you don't believe me look up that one mexican kid that died after jacking off 42 times.
>>25490573
>and if you don't believe me look up that one mexican kid that died after jacking off 42 times.
I heard about that already and that likely (if I heard correctly) involved drugs, part of the "gay party scene" (I'm not gay just looked this up once) involves the use of a specific drug (I think meth) that allows you to have sex for hours, even days endlessly, and it is widely used by them in the "club scene".
"I never once felt like I masturbated "enough" for the day,hell , I know could masturbate all fucking day If I wanted" - How many time can you personally masturbate before your dick hurts, serious question?
>>25489876
>These lame memes about turning mental conditions into a joke are really pointless and lame, please make an actual coherent argument or just stfu, thank you ;)
Retard confirmed;)
>>25490743
It varies
I remember when I downloaded AA2 I spent the whole day masturbating and I my dick hurt for a few hours afterwards, I didn't count but I think it must've been between 15-20 times (I take AT least 20min edging before cumming)
But some days I can just fap twice and my dick starts to hurt.
But it doesn't stop me most of the time, my dick never hurt so much that I couldn't masturbate.
I did nofap last year for five months. I wanted to see if it would have any significant impact on my social and academic skills while at college.It didn't. Nofap only really affects autists who can't help but touch their dick every time they see a woman
>>25490570
Whatever kid. Oh I'm sorry did I fucking trigger you? Were you fucking triggered you little cry baby? Fuck off. Literally saying not a fucking word to you and you're gonna fucking mute me because you have a problem with me just fucking talking shit in all chat? Honestly go fuck yourself to the highest fucking caliber you fucking asshole. So sick of little fucking bitches like you who fucking have a fucking opinion like you're fucking sitting over there like, oh I'm some fucking problem to you because I'm not even fucking saying a fucking word to you. Fuck off. Call it what you fucking asshole? Hormonal? Kid you're a fucking bullshitter. You're a fucking bullshitter. Go fuck yourself. You ain't fucking nothing. You ain't fucking anyone. You ain't got a fucking clue in your fucking head who I am or what I'm fucking about. That I'm fucking calling these fucking kids tryhards, has your fucking panties in a bunch for what? For what? For fucking what kid? Honestly I'm fucking sick of kids like you. Literally go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself and everything that you fucking stand for because I'm gonna tell you right now, you don't stand for shit kid. You don't stand for fucking shit. Please. Yeah, talk in all chat. Yeah like anybody fucking cares kid go find a fucking friend to talk to, right? Because you can't fucking talk to me, you can't fucking treat me like a fucking person. You ain't fucking real kid. You ain't fucking real. You ain't got a fucking real fucking bone in your fucking body kid. So go fucking all chat, and make some fucking friends. Alright? You can make some fucking friends because "Oh, this guy's hormonal," pffft "Uh I'm gonna mute him," pffft fuck off. You're literally a fucking cancer on this fucking world kid. Never fucking forget it.
>>25490877
>But it doesn't stop me most of the time, my dick never hurt so much that I couldn't masturbate.
Well thanks for proving my point basically, its not us that don't have self control, its you guys "nofappers" that don't have self control, also thanks for the anecdotal evidence to when I said you guys are masochists, I mean't it in the way that you guys get off on the torture of self suppression, but it looks like you guys are masochits in many ways, you guys literally push through the pain just for mediorce orgasms (after the first orgasm it gets less and less intense and more and more painful, that's why edging makes orgasms stronger, because you're building up tension).
Also what did you mean when you said this
>>25490573
"except number 3, you're obviously pulling a strawman on this one and it's not working"
Please tell me what the strawman was, because I was basing my statements on what I've been told by nofappers.
>It didn't. Nofap only really affects autists who can't help but touch their dick every time they see a woman
This, I'd also add it only helps people who lack self control and/or are masochists
>>25490998
Try harder with the troll posting, you can't even mute people on 4chan (and if you can I don't know how to, newfag here)
>>25490998This original enough for you?
>>25487236
>>Use this ability and touch women on their bare skin whenever I can, they try and hide their arousal but I can sense it
More like they are scared and trying to get away from the overly horny neckbeard
>>25491026
well I want to stop being a masochist then, it's not because you call it something else that it BECOMES something else, the problem is still there, I have a problem and I want to fix it.
And like I said, I agree with you, nofap is not a fucking miracle technique to become an Alpha king with godly social skills, it's retarded and the only "evidence" suporting it is pseudoscience.
BUT, nofap is actually usefull in cases of MASTURBATION ADDICTION, why ? because MASTURBATION ADDICTION is an ADDICTION and ADDICTIONS are BAD FOR YOU and there's ACTUAL SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE PROVING THAT FACT.
I, the one writing this post, have an ADDICTION meaning that for me, nofap is basically COLD TURKEY and a perfectly viable way of stopping my self destructive tendencies.
Which brings me to the "strawman" case, you were looking for ways to make your list longer so your purposely missinterpreted the fact that stopping masturbation improves your self control, it's not about being able to control "just" masturbation, it's being able to control unnecessary pulsions (just like how sportsman cut down their pleasures to stay focused on their dreams) and guess what ? THIS TOO HAS SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE SUPPORTING IT
In conclusion : You're right, nofap is not going to help you with your scocial retardation, but it does help in cases of addiction and in improving your self-control.sorry if i left some mistakes here and there, im dyslexic and my autocorrect just turned off all of a sudden)
>>25491198
>it's being able to control unnecessary pulsions
I get what you're saying but it is only unnecessary to you because you lack self control in the first place (still don't understand why the fuck you would push through the pain and fuck your dick up for lame low level orgasms). Also if its just to increase self control in various areas of life, then why can't I just practice this with something else, like "nogame", "no-tv", "no-etc", if its not just about sexual suppression and controlling strict sexual urges then there's no need to even do nofap for reasons of self control either because anyone could just find something else to do less of (common sense).
>but it does help in cases of addiction and in improving your self-control.
Again, self control OF WHAT, everytime I spoke to a nofapper the self control they spoke about was ALWAYS SEXUAL, it was literally just not masturbating for the sake of not masturbating, just circular logic, I was not looking for ways to make the list longer (lol) and if I was I failed like a moron because I only increased the list by ONE (that sounds like a complete waste of time to me to put effort into if I was just trying to bulk up my argument).
What other things has nofap given you self control in?
>>25491425
Just face it. No fap is a meme and these fools are deluded.
>>25491425
You're looking at the self control thing wrong, it's not some kind of rpg level up system where you unlock things to have control on.
It's just, empowering, and helps a lot with self-esteem, because you're "beating" something, and when you do "beat" it, you have an easier time fighting off other stuff because you slowly get used to it. It's not about gaining control it's about taking it back and doing what you 'want' for example : I don't want to jack off all day and watch anime, I want to practice my drawing and get back into swimming, through self control I can fight off there pulsion making me want to lock myself in, masturbate and watch chinese cartoons all day long.
If you want to read more about self control and what it's all about I suggest you to read into Buddhism, Epicure, Schoppenhauer and Nietzsche there are many others but this is from the top of my head
>>25491584
thank you for your wonderful participation my friend
>>25491584
>Just face it. No fap is a meme and these fools are deluded.
I know, but just like guys who believe in true love and want to get married, I'm not oing to just look on and watch them make crappy decisions (too many men end up divorced and commit suicide), we can't just sit and look at men (especially fellow betas) make foolish decisions and accept it, at least I can be satisfied knowing I tried to help them, if they fuck up its on them at that point.
>>25491651
is this you irl ?
I've been on nofap for 5 days now and I'm feeling literally 0 desire to fap. What is this shit?
>>25487140
>>25487157
>>25488375
WHAT THE FUG HAPPENED TO MY NORMIE-FREE BOARD REEEEEEE
>>25491717
yes where did u get this pic of me
>>25491623
Caps are for emphasis btw not anger, because it seems like you are skipping over or not seeing what I'm saying
>It's just, empowering, and helps a lot with self-esteem, because you're "beating" something, and when you do "beat" it
You just confirmed the meme that nofappers literally feel pride in doing nothing, not doing something isn't an accomplishment, not masturbating isn't an accomplishment, nobody praises people for not raping or not murdering, you can't praise yourself for INACTION lol.
Also you are fucking confusing me with these blatant contradictions
This "You're looking at the self control thing wrong, it's not some kind of rpg level up system where you unlock things to have control on"
AND
This: "you have an easier time fighting off other stuff because you slowly get used to it"
DIRECTLY CONTRADICT EACHOTHER
You can't say I'm saying its like unlocking other things you have control over and then in the next breath state that IT HELPS YOU HAVE AN EASIER TIME CONTROLLING OTHER URGES.
Are you going to answer the question directly, or continue to deflect from it:
If the nofap "control argument" isn't just circular logic (suppressing sexual urges gives you control over suppressing sexual urges) then WHAT OTHER THINGS HAS NOFAP GIVEN YOU SELF CONTROL IN?
>>25491717
Btw that guy who replied here: >>25491784 isn't me, that's one thing I hate about 4chan, faggots doing impersonations, its especially annoying when an OP is greentexting a good story and some asshole feels the need to fuck it up.
>>25491852
uchiha confirmed
>>25491818
okay i give up this is getting ridiculous, you just ignored my whole post just so you could repeat yourself
come back when you talk with people to have conversation not to "win" argumentsoh and guess who started using caps for emphasis first ? yeah, me, because you too, have an habit of ignoring things just so you can attack me. And everything I did not point out in your post were things I agreed on, because, unlike you, I'm not here to fight, I'm here to talk, but this concept must seem like "nofappers shitty logic"
>>25491852
how fucking narcissistic can one get
>>25487089
>just using it all while fapping
it's not a measurable savings you pleb , phap all you want t's just in your head
>>25491940
>okay i give up this is getting ridiculous, you just ignored my whole post just so you could repeat yourself
I asked you a question and you didn't answer it, I asked it LIKE 5 FUCKING TIMES, I did not ignore anything you said I addressed it, you've been deflecting and avoiding my questions the entire time and everyone can see this, what you're doing here is just a sad attempt at a "cop out", answer the damn question, maybe then it will get less "ridiculous" baka (you're just making shit up so you can avoid an EXISTENTIAL CRISIS)
>how fucking narcissistic can one get
How is that narcissitic idiot, my main problem is that it ruins the posts of OTHER PEOPLE not even really my own - "its especially annoying when an OP is greentexting a good story and some asshole feels the need to fuck it up.". Do you even know what narcissm means moron, no wonder you're involved with this nofap nonesense, you have no self control, you have some faggot masochistic tendencies (masturbating through pain wft, next you'll work your way to anal play), and you avoid logic and reasoning.
>>25492113
You havent tried it then. This shit works man.
>>25492113
>it's not a measurable savings you pleb , phap all you want t's just in your head
tfw these nofap idiots think its possible to "run out" of sperm, your dick would rupture in pain before you could even come close to emptying your stores, its maybe possible if you are on drugs like meth, but under normal circumstances hell no.
>>25492296
actually i did fell for the meme and tried it , 3 months no fap .just more sexual frustration that's all i got
>>25492322
You were still watching porn and browsing /b/ huh?
>>25492319
for realziez once i read an article about a kid that fapped 42 times in a row then died , came blood the poor bastard
>>25492340
i don't come near /b/ it's cancer , but watched random animu desu , in my defense i didn't actually search for anything in particular
>>25492366
Hmm. Well maybe you didnt have a porn addiction then.
>>25489357
This is what I mean when I say I dont' wanna try to convince anyone. Cause I just know these drones won't even consider my points or arguments. They just cover their ears.
Anti-nofap zealots are reluctant to give up their only so called "pleasure" in life which is fapping. Can't you see that's fucking pathetic as fuck? But again, my job is not to try to better r9k. I realised that long ago. I have no power to do that, I only have power to change myself. I don't want fapping to be my primary hobby. The last "fun" thing I have left to do in my home. And so I'm cutting it out of my life (nofap december completed and going)
Now, if I try to explain the effects I've been noticing since I started nofap, they gonna call it a placebo effect. Well, if my placebo effect essentially betters my life this much, you know what? Maybe it's better than being a miserable porn addict.
>mfw this entire thread
Here's my story lads
>try nofap
>works
>continue with it
Niggas in this thread literally debating touching their wieners in a mongolian tapestry imageboard
>>25492387
>Hmm. Well maybe you didnt have a porn addiction then.
Damn you guys are retarded, you idiot logic is full proof, if it works = you have an addiction, if it doesn't work = you didn't have an addiction, do you see how ridiculously convenient that is.
>>25492387
i don't think someone can addict on porn liek wetif
>>25492541
it is
>>25492397
>Maybe it's better than being a miserable porn addict.
Problem is that you addiction is biologically based, when people go to rehab for foreign drugs like cocaine, heronine, etc they can one day reach a point where THEY STOP BEING AN ADDICT, but dopamine is an INTERNAL AND BIOLOGICAL DRUG, your body uses it everyday as part of the "reward system". News flash moron - YOU NEVER STOPPED BEING AN ADDICT, you've basically committed yourself to ETERNAL REHAB, you'll always have to "nofap" because sexual urges don't just go away (well they do with old age).
>>25492465
WOW! GREAT POST!Is that really all you can come up with?
>>25492387
>Well maybe you didnt have a porn addiction then.
no-fap threads blow my mind away in how skewed the reasoning is. masturbation itself hasn't been shown to have adverse effects (outside of outright addiction), but being overly stimulated by porn (and electronics in general) has had many studies showing adverse effects when chronically viewed
is it because you can't fap without porn beaming itself on your retinas? why throw the baby out with the bath water?
seriously, just fap in the morning when you first wake up, and/or right before you go to bed. that in itself makes a world of difference. no post-fap guilt/shame/low-esteem that I used to get when cranking it out with dozens of porn tabs that i'd have to close after finishing
it'd be like drinking beer from a lead cup, and when the shit starts damaging you, you decide to swear off the beer itself and drink water from the creek instead. yeah your cessation worked, but likely not due to the reason you think
>>25493235
>no post-fap guilt/shame/low-esteem that I used to get when cranking it out with dozens of porn tabs that i'd have to close after finishing
>Not downloading HD porn and keep "the good shit" stored away......... wut?
Either way you can't reason with no fap idiots because your example here: "seriously, just fap in the morning when you first wake up, and/or right before you go to bed", involves self control, something they don't have, they're the kind that masturbates even when their dick hurts, masochistic faggots, they have no control so for them its an all or nothing scenario.
Why are you so fiercely dedicated to jerking off? Even if it wasn't addicting its still a huge fucking waste of time you mongoloids.
>>25487236
Was this supposed to be funny?Not original comment
>>25493468
>Why are you so fiercely dedicated to jerking off?
I've spent more time watching tv shows than I do masturbating (100's of episodes of 1hr long and 1/2hr long shows), by your logic I'm "dedicated" to watch tv shows, you need to look up "dedication" in a dictionary
>Even if it wasn't addicting its still a huge fucking waste of time you mongoloids.
Sleep is any even more significant waste of time than masturbation (literally spend almost half of a day doing nothing), If I could stop sleeping I would, I can stop masturbating but there is no reason too, I sometimes stop for a week or so just because (it makes the orgasms stronger too).
Also how long do you think masturbation takes lol, its like 10-20 mins and for me its mostly ONCE a day (twice if I'm lucky), are you telling me 10-20mins of a day is a waste of time, I guarantee you spend more time playing video games which does not benefit you in real life, while masturbation does benefit one in real life.
>>25493706
Sleep repairs muscle fibers and gives you energy.
Fapping wastes energy and time, but it makes your weewee feel good you little bitch
>>25493557
It actually was really funny, and the original post argument is kinda pointless since I'm a newfag and I never would have gotten a chance to laugh at this if you had your way.
i cant stop fantasizing about affectionately cuddling with nearly every woman i see
>>25493747
>Sleep repairs muscle fibers and gives you energy.
It also wastes time though, its funny how you bring up the time factor in your criticism of masturbation but conveniently leave it out when speaking about sleep ;)
You lose way more time with sleep than masturbation, so again retards, why complain about the loss of about 10-20 mins that you would probably have spent reading manga or playing games (STILL WASTING TIME) but think nothing of the 8+hrs spent lying still on your bed.
>Fapping wastes energy and time
Sex wastes even more time and energy than fapping, yet its a primary goal of males and most men spend their entire lives simply trying to get laid, if what you were saying was even a relevant point most men would not be trying to get sex, please use a little logic before making arguments, it prevents you from looking like a complete retard.
>>25493857
Its not a waste if it repairs muscle fibers and gives you energy, i cant argue with you if you cant comprehend simple things.
Sex is different as it forms pair bonds between people.
>>25491852
Fuck you. It was me the entire time and you replied to a bunch of bozos, I just got off work and I have the chance to reply now.
>inb4 wageslave
>>25493857
m8 when you sleep your body removes waste chemicals from your brain
>>25494085
>Sex is different as it forms bonds
Sex is no different, It is the release of sexual energy. Which is what masturbation is.
Take for example a obsessed waifu-fag, he is forming bonds with his waifu as he jerks his schlong to her day after day.
>b-b-but it isn't REAL
It's real in his mind (although deluded) just as real sex. Therefore he is making bonds.
>>25494417
You're a dumbass attempting to talk about things you don't understand and it's embarrassing to even read. Just stop and go play a video game or something.
>>25494539
>Using ad-hominem this hard because you just got wrecked up the ass and have no defense
Alright senpai.
>>25494085
>Its not a waste if it repairs muscle fibers and gives you energy, i cant argue with you if you cant comprehend simple things.
It is a waste of TIME but not a waste of ENERGY (since it replenishes it), if you can't argue based on context then we can't argue retard, I never claimed sleep was just an all round waste of time, but again retard please tell me how masturbation which takes like 10-20 mins is a waste of time when you spend more time watching a show, anime, or gaming.
>>25494539
>You're a dumbass attempting to talk about things you don't understand and it's embarrassing to even read. Just stop and go play a video game or something.
ACtually you are the dumbass
1. There is nothing inherently good about "forming bonds"
2. From your brains perspective (your subconscious mind) you are still "forming bonds" when masturbating (especially waifu fags), just as your subconscious brain can't tell the difference between you eating food and chewing gum, in both scenarios it tells the body to produce enzymes and acids in the stomach for chemical digestions.
>>25487236
Nice memetext sir! xDD
>>25487989
>Semen gets absorbed backed into your blood stream after a while of no fap and your body no longer focuses on constantly refilling your seamen and wasting its resources on it.
W-w-what
Anon I think you're retarded.
Stopping habitual masturbation is definitely healthy but wtf r u saying. You don't have to make shit up to support a fact. There's already support.
>>25488082
Okay I posted >>25496628 but then read further down. I understand what you're saying now but the way you worded it was dumb and you were basically begging to be called out.
