Can we get another redpilling major/career thread?
Is biology a meme major? Is there any way to make it a non-meme major (with a minor or specific path)
>>25464087
to start off: discuss
>>25464087
Not a meme major. Take biochemistry and genetics courses and get lab work in that area.
>>25464087
All majors are meme majors if you are a robot. you need connections+normie personality to get a job in any field nowadays.
>>25464256
>cyborg
I can fake a normie personality. Maybe not Chad-tier but convincing enough.
>>25464235
Why is electrical engineer unbelievable? I'd always thought mech. engineer would be in the god tier too.
I'm starting school this spring and am torn between electrical and mech :( they're both practical to use at home, but even with connections and internships, how's the job market like for both?
Opinions on whether I should major in biomedical or mechanical engineering?
You want the real redpill?Human Resource Development
Easy as fuck coursework
Above average median salary
Always in demand
Can't be automated
Tons of girls major in this so you'll get serious pussy
You need to become a professor, or go to med/dental school
>tfw still don't know what I want to major in
>declared anthropology when I started
>realized that forensic anthro had real shit job opportunities
>left with physical and cultural anthro
>don't know what to do with them but still going down this path
>been set to transfer for 2 years but stalling
At least I'm only in CC but where the hell do I go from here? I'm 22 and not getting younger. Pls help r9k.
>>25464543
>School, school, or more school
Doesn't sound too appealing. How uncommon is it to get lab work like >>25464240 mentions?
>>25464515
MechE tends to be a popular choice for engineering, if that makes a difference. Electrical is far less common.
>>25464235
>politics
I don't even care anymore, I just figured I'd do something I found interesting, and all it's made me is depressed
>tfw not smart enough for the high paying majors
>>25464521
Biomed for pu55y
At least, more puss than other engineering. Which is hardly saying anything.
> tfw stupid as fuck but /accounting/ major so I will still make above average pay one day
Good feel
>>25464515
Totally depends on internships. I know a guy with a 4.0 in EE who is about to graduate with nothing lined up. I also know a ME who was told it doesn't matter what GPA he gets his senior year, he was guaranteed a job starting at 80k (I think, can't remember exactly) because he so impressed them during his internship.
>>25464521
BME are a lot more competitive after getting a MS because the BS is too general. Keep this in mind when making plans. It also depends on what you're interested in because the major overlap between the two is in prosthetics. I would recommend ME if that's what you like.
>>25464609
It's pretty easy to get lab experience if you go to a research school. I live in California so the University of California are our research schools, while the state schools are more about getting your degree then a job.
Bio is great if you go into medically related fields like pharmaceutical development
If not enjoy being a poor ecologist.
>>25464680
How soul-crushing is the accounting life?
>>25464645
Just do a trade and enjoy your stable, mediocre life.
>>25464087
> that moment when you realise that everyone In these threads are underage
I switched from bio because I hated lab work (got a lab position with a professor), it has horrible job prospects (unless you go into bioinformatics), and I was starting to hate the material itself. In my lab one of the grad students got her masters with a very novel and influential paper, did tons of lab work in undergrad too and published as an undergrad, overall high prospects, even knew coding which is a huge plus. Now makes like 10 dollars an hour in a shitty town doing basic lab work in a field totally different than what she studied. Not worth. The only thing you can do with a bio degree is med/dental. Even bioinformatics wants a CS degree, not bio
>>25464542
Just one thing, I don't believe you on the job outlook. Post proof.
Bls reports a 9% increase for human resource managers for 80k but that ain't shit compared to civil engineering with 12% with over 100k a year
>>25464680
>>25464722
dat feel
went to college and shared an apartement with a fellow robot
I dropped out, he finished .. barely
now he's taking over his fathers company and already making five times the median households income where i live
he hated it at first, but once he got quite good at it he really started to enjoy it... and making good money helps to i guess
>bad at math
>instantly cucked out of the top 33% of majors
Welp. Time to become an Alaskan crab fisherman.
see >>25464233
you're all fucked
>>25464722
Different guy from who you quoted but I wouldn't want to give up being an accountant for anything. Full disclosure though, I work in public accounting. If I had done some entry level corporate gig I probably would have wanted to kill myself.
>>25464781
What did you switch to, famiglia?
Why doesn't /r9k/ just study what they like instead of following what others think is right?
We get all these robots all riled up on electrical engineering,medicine, computer science and they fail it because they have no motivation.
If you like the subject so much that you're willing to spend 4 years studying it, then do it. Otherwise, what's the fucking point? Just study up a trade which takes less than 4 years.
.t psych and cj sophomore going for a Psy.D
>>25464722
Pretty bad.
I'm Mormon and already married so I know what I'm working for.
Otherwise I would have dropped out a long time ago.
civil engineering is good because it's easy, but because of that a lot of schools require a high GPA for acceptance. If you're coming from high school this should be no problem but if you're a literal retard like me and had to go to community college, transferring can be a bitch.
>>25464087
It's full of women. What do you think?
>>25464235
Is economics really a great-tier? What about anything financial?
>>25464702
Damn, that guy with the 4.0 EE did no internship? Mmm, that's quite some shit
>>25464830
Buisiness. My dad owns a company so want to learn the ropes and take over eventually. Next semester will be my first in that field.
>>25464938
You know he might have, or maybe did research over the summer. My point was that the ME did much better in his extracurriculars and was guaranteed more. The EE guy might end up with a better job but it isn't guaranteed which can be scary as a senior.
>>25464235
Petro is god tier when oil prices are up and the industry is hot. It is shit tier when oil is cheap. Currently I can fill up my shitbox for $20 so...
>all these young kids making 100k as rig hands
>blowing their money at the bar and on a cummins dualie
>oil get BTFO by the saudis
>they get laid off
>Iran is allowed to export again
the domestic oil industry is rekt for the next 10 years
If you think that studying the humanities is a waste of time, you are a fucking pleb and philistine.
>duurr STEM are the only disciplines worth studying
It's like you actually believe that the exploration, preservation and propagation of culture and literature do not matter.
I am of the opinion that you should only choose what you like doing, and that you can excel in everything as long as you have a passion for it.
It seems to me that diehard STEM advocates are those that are incapable of doing anything else, and are butthurt as a consequence. If you have enough self-esteem to enjoy your own field of study and appreciate that of others, then you have no reason to embarrass yourself by projecting such a limited mindset.
No wonder that militant stemfags are all virgins
>>25464935
> Economics
Not really that great, do something more practical.
Financial stuff is a good choice if you get enough internships
>>25465036
You know before I switched to accounting I studied History.
>>25464812
got my degree in CS end of last year on got a job straight out of university. haven't heard of anyone who got his CS degree and stayed unemployed for longer than 1-2 months.
>>25465036
I love the humanities but they aren't viable as a career if you want to live comfortably.
I would major in art history but it's a joke. It's really a joke.
>>25465115
proof or gtfo fadfg
>>25465036
Hello /his/, how's the job hunt going?
>>25464935
>>25465037
just econ by itself its that great if youre getting a ba like me this spring. I minored in business to get some accounting courses and more practical courses. It really about what you do with the degree.
>>25465181
I'm studying for a Masters.
I've just secured funding for a PhD.
Three years of my life will be financed by an academic consortium, meaning that I'll be living rent-free and maintenance is covered, as long as I don't indulge in expensive habits.
Also, after the probationary first year, I'll be teaching undergrads, meaning I'll get payed on top of that.
So no need to job hunt, anon
>>25464235
>be a woman
>thinking about studying either primary education or journalism.
Wish I could just say fuck it and get married instead
>>25464087
>>25464235
College and this image is a meme. Major what you have been good at all along and/or minor minor in a skill.
If you can't afford four year school, if you did mediocre in high school, go to community/technical college and major in something you can apply for employment like an AAS or A.S.
/thread
>>25466264Same
Godammit why couldn't I just become a housewife/stay-at-home mom? Oh yeah, stability and self-sustainability. Fuck
>going to University to study something to get a job
When will this meme end?
>>25464235
>stem autists actually believe this
>>25464798
Have you actually tried math recently? In my experience most people who say that failed math in high school for some reason or another and never tried again to pick it up.
>>25466390
I like this image a lot better. Thanks anon.
My father wants me to be a software engineer. Is this out-of-bounds for an average-intelligence schmuck?
Alternatively, what major will let me stumble upon something /x/-related?
>submitted my college apps to columbia, boston college, and nyu for biology three days ago
>already losing sleep because of fear of being rejected
>>25464087
>redpilling major
Remember to wear your redpill shoes and pants when going to redpill university.
>>25464831
they don't like anything, retard, so they go for something they know could make them money.
>being this new
>>25466662
your faggot dad isn't you, faggot. do what you want and stop being literally a fucking beta taking orders from other people you dumb fucking nigger god dammit this is like "my wifes son" for college degree threads. just fucking kill yourself if you have such tiny balls.
>>25464235
I am 3 months from graduating in Computer Engineering.
>>25466739
>they don't like anything, retard
False. I am well-versed in anime, memes, and obscure fetishes and quite enjoy them. I'm going to do what >>25464831 said and make a career out of it :^)
>>25466785
here's a cookie
>>25466741
my faggot dad is paying for my faggot education and will lend much more emotional support towards computer engineering. I'm not entirely against it, either, which is why I made a post asking for more information. calm your tits
>>25466659
I wasted so much time majoring in STEM. I could of majored in history get high grades, minored in CIS and have an internship lined up for me. Don't listen to all these faggots that say "hurr durr everything's a shit tier majjoor, major in ennjinnering" Meanwhile they're probably NEETS or have no friends doing it just for money or how "anti-social" it is when at the end of the day they have to talk to interviewers and HR to get and KEEP the job.
Avoid wasting time in college, make every semester count.
>>25464087
Yes Biology is a meme major. All majors are meme majors in 2016. I know guys who graduated with 3.7+ gpas in computer science/engineering who are working minimum wagecuck jobs.
>>25466394
Which is bullshit because as soon as you achieve the happiness you actually want you'll just quit to become a full time mother, after wasting a shit ton of money.
Or you'll waste your life in a career you didn't actually want when what you actually wanted is very achievable.
Thanks feminism.
I've sunk 3 years into a poli sci BA and am now on academic probation because depression and mind bendingly biased profs
My plan is to finish my BA, get a moneymaking cert/trade/associates I can pick up to pay off my student debt, and then go for a masters in systems science or something. Was thinking a CPA in accounting or trying to be an electrician or something
Give advice. My end goal in life is to be a policy analyst. Preferences for intellectual, non-manual labor work that pays and isn't just cucktomer service. Also I'm 24
>>25466390
Sometimes the things you love-- say, art and not living in poverty-- conflict with one another.
![[HorribleSubs]_Non_Non_Biyori_-_11_[720p].mkv_snapshot_18.40_[2013.12.20_06.43.34].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZlPgDvx.jpg "[HorribleSubs]_Non_Non_Biyori_-_11_[720p].mkv_snapshot_18.40_[2013.12.20_06.43.34].jpg")
>>25466936
>All majors are meme majors in 2016.
This.
NOTHING provides you much guarantee of a good position right now. Bachelor's is just the new HS diploma in the US.
>>25467009
>econ/business degree from top state uni
>1.5 years experience with web design, SEO & database stuff
>can't find anything that pays more (about $15/hr atm) that doesn't ask for "3 years minimum experience"
$15/hr isn't bad desu. i can afford all of the things i want because i have no gf and i'm frugal but i feel like i should be making more
>>25467128
are you just trying to insult me man
>I know people in manual labor who are 20 who've made $15 an hour starting
>>25466264
>>25466264
I'll marry both of you cunts.
>>25467128
Kek im making 20 an hour here with only a hs education
posting from >>25464233
>>25466217
>>25466584
is god-tier advice
>>25467227
>Just start a business!
> J U S T
>from your dorm room
the fuck are you talking about
did you actually pull this off
I'm not sure about majors, isn't it better to work backwards and pick them based on the career you want?
I want to do something in the medical field, maybe be a dermatologist? I like watching those pimple extraction videos, so I figure it would be a good match.
>>25467227
>just b successful :^)
love this meme
>>25467202
>>25467202
i wasn't actually replying to you i just clicked your post number to get the posting form but i forgot to delete it
>>25467282
>>25467319
i didn't post it, just linking because I think it's the only smart solution
>>25467009
>My end goal in life is to be a policy analyst
Study economics, it's perfect for that. I know how you feel about biased professors, that's why I didn't major in psychology or sociology.
Your college might have a "public affairs" program which is good for that kind of career path.
>>25467098
Yes, but be reasonable. if all you got were Cs and Ds in math don't be a math major.
There are many ways to apply art. Artists can make bank in marketing, the fashion/design industry or software.
Going after biochemistry, though I'm aware I lack the initiative to get far enough for it to eventually pay off.
We'll see what happens, I guess.
>>25467221
What do you do?
>inb4 Manager at a grocery store
Any CIS majors here? How were your job prospects? How easy was the degree to obtain?
>>25467220
You need a decent career to be a leader, idol and provider to your children, remember. Work hard, Anon.
>>25464087 (OP)
There are no successful people on 4chan.
Therefore, taking advice from anyone on this board is probably not a good idea. Irony intended.
>>25464722
Not that guy, but I really like it. I have a finance degree, and didn't care for the accounting course I took early on so I didn't really consider it when I decided my major. Got an entry-level accounting job out of college tho though and I really enjoy it, makes me wish I'd given it more of a chance in college. Probably would've majored in acct instead. Now I've gotta get off my lazy-ass and start getting grad school stuff figured out, tho. go from there and become a CPA.
>>25464235
This STEM faggotry again.
>>25464087
OP: All majors are memes. Its up to you to make them real and do something with your diploma.
>>25467668
Wow people actually enjoy accountancy?
I thought this was a meme
>>25467773
not that anon or anything
from what i've read online, accounting is more than most people think and there are certain areas of it that people actually do find interesting. I really don't remember what those areas are, though.
>>25467773
It's called Stockholm syndrome.
>>25467668
What exactly do you enjoy about it?
>tfw you're a biology major in your senior year
>tfw you despise biology and learning about it makes you physically ill
>tfw you've gotten decent but not great grades
>tfw you procrastinated and didn't figure out what you wanted to go into patent law until senior year
>tfw you're gonna have to take a year off to get experience for it because you never got an internship.
Welp I have no one to blame but myself but hey at least I'll be making six figures in a few years
>>25464087
Where does Graphic Design stand in the spectrum?
Is any one going to be a psychiatrist nurse?
>>25468182
no, you literally won't make anything. see >>25466584
>>25468280
pic related, garbage
>>25466543
I took calculus my senior year of high school and dropped it midway through because I was so lost and behind.
I have not touched it yet since then.
>>25468305
It's a hard job. As someone with a mental illness I beg you to not get into it unless you are one of the saints that can take it. There are too many careless and outright cruel people in the field of psychiatry.
>>25464087
STEM is a meme, but the strongest of all memes.
>majoring in CS
>4 years in
>completely failing
How's programming nowadays? It seems like every bumblefuck 13-year-old has a good grasp on it while I'm a slow learner. Is it worth putting a lot of effort in with a risk of ending up subpar?
>>25468477
>It seems like every bumblefuck 13-year-old has a good grasp on it
I really like this meme, it's very persistent.
Look kid, if this was true then why are the Silicon Valley companies still paying 100k starting to their junior engineers?
meh/ shit tier - multimedia i just wanted to learn photoshop and get a college degree.
>>25468328
I'm assuming that chart is for people with an undergraduate degree alone. Biology bachelor's by itself is almost worthless because it's so general.
>>25468328
Why are you constantly linking to your own shit tier post?
>JUST START A BUSSINESS GUYS
J U S T
U
S
T
>>25465012
>tfw had internship at oil pipeline company in 2014/2015 making $27/hr (50k a year)
>tfw was prepared to make 70-80k starting and have an easy time as an entry level engineer, not I'm looking for anything (business positions, data entry, fucking anything)
>tfw never got to live high hog
>>25468393
For real? My sister recommended I do it. (Shes a doctor)
What the fuck do I do? I'm a senior in my last semester of high school, I've been saying I wanted to do CS since 8th grade, but I'm average at math
Im pretty good at everything else except anything art related.
Business sounds extremely boring.
I just want a good paying jobs so I can live alone in an apartment in a city ;__;
>>25468766
>What the fuck do I do? I'm a senior in my last semester of high school
Come back when you're 21
>>25468699
It's definitely not for everyone. I've not been in the hospital yet but I've heard horror stories about the nurses from those that have. Try getting an internship at a psych hospital or volunteering there before committing major time into it as a career path.
>>25468818
What are feeling like now? What year of school are you in?
>>25468766
Don't go to college unless you have some general idea of what you want to do. If you know what you're gonna do requires college you'd be best off working full or part time and taking some classes at community college then transferring. If not just go to a vocational school.
>>25468895
I have psychosis NOS which in my case is basically the same as schizophrenia. I was feeling pretty good for a while but I'm getting worse and am terrified of going to the hospital. Not sure whether to off myself or just give in and go to the hospital if things get worse. Meh.
I'm a junior in college but just switched majors so I'm going to become a super senior in a couple years.
Is it easy to find internships as a CS student?
>>25468981
Holy shit. That sounds very painful. I think my ex was diagnosed with something similar to this. What are you going to do now? What major?
>>25468477
I'm a senior in CS. Landed a grad job in Dell as a programmer but declined it as it was a shit salary (28k euro a year). Hoping to get a good grade and a better job in May.
>Ireland fag reporting in
>tfw I'm a naval architect that worked in subsea robotics who is turning into a chemical engineer
>>25469111
Switched from bio to business which is supposed to be a joke major so hopefully not too stressful. Stress brings out my symptoms. I'm going to try to get a job after school and try to be normal and just hope I don't degrade to the point where I'm just some useless bumblefuck wasting away in a group home, which is really my worst nightmare.
>>25467009
>>25467009
>wants to be a policy analyst
>plans to take a trip on the trades path to get there.
Doesn't sound like a good plan. I have a political science degree and did something s similar. I took a few auto shop classes at community college on the side while taking accounting and some other classes. This was after earning my BA (graduated with honors) and living the neet life for too long. I stopped taking them because I dont care about cars that much, the work sucks (lots of older mechanics are forced to retire because their bodies give out and they end up spending the rest of their life living on pain killers and disability pay), and the pay for most mechanics sucks. At least I can do some work on my own now, but there is no way I would want to do that work all day everyday.
My advice would be to repair your GPA and much as you can before graduating (do well in your classes, I dont care how) and get an internship (many places want their interns to have a 3.0 or higher).
>>25468766
>I'm a senior in my last semester of high school
How are your grades? Did you apply for college/university yet.
By the way, look up the Computer science majors in school and see if you can do those classes. If I were you I would probably take AP pre-calculus or calculus now.
>>25469279
He's 24. By the time he "repairs" his gpa he'll be in his late 20s. What's the reward for all that time and money spent on college, a 40k salary?
What he should do is learn a 2nd language and go full expat mode, start a new life somewhere else. Maybe teach English to kids in rural china or something.
>>25469258
I hear that also but then again I don't know much. I'm in the same boat as you. I just want to get a job,find a home and live a somewhat normal life.
Poli Sci is useless unless you want to be a cop for the FBI. I know way too many people doing poli sci thinking they're going to be a diplomat.
Should I major in literature? I suck at science and I'm only average in math. I don't really care about being a wageslave STEMfag and want to get better at analyzing art.
>>25469594
Minor in it and major in something you can actually get a job in.
>>25468447
ever try not being a fucking retard?
becoming a touring stand-up comic to spread the beta word and avoid real school for a while, convince me no to follow my dream (i'm not broken yet like a lot of you)
>>25469279
I just want a way to pay off the student debt I'm going to have to undergo in order to finish my major
for instance, the place I studied at? It was originally a polisci minor, now it's become a POLITICAL STUDIES (kek) major, and if I want to transfer over elsewhere it'll cost a lot of money
like the other guy said, I'm into my mid-20's and by the time this is sorted out I'll be nearly 30. I don't know what to do and every option seems bad in my life. It makes me very unhappy
>>25469594
Why not? You could also look into communications and linguistics.
What do you want to be? An editor, publisher, copyright?
>>25469391
He'll need a degree and certs to teach English.
I basically did that minus the whole finally getting a job and moving abroad thing.
I chickened out, and I dont really like spending that much time with little kids (most jobs for grads with a BA/BS are teaching English to K-6 children).
>>25469780
You really screwed up by doing poorly in school.
I don't know where you went, but I went to a fairly liberal uni, and the papers I wrote weren't something a leftist would love. Your arguments have to be rooted in fact and not feelings. Little liberals in training often get a pass on this because what they say appeals to the prof.
Anyone have any opinions on university prep courses?
My last formal education was 5 years ago and my ability to write intelligently has just disappeared completely. Spent the last 5 years on anti-depressants and dulling my brain with whatever I could. Feels like my brain is mush now.
Any suggestions?
>going to college
Why?
>>25470005
If you have to ask, don't bother.
>>25469940
fuck off you sack of shit I don't need your god damned opinions on my "academic performance" like you're some kind of useful arbiter you fucking normie
>>25469642
Rude.
What's the point of this post?
>>25465164
Different guy, but it happened to me, too. I got my job offer before I got my diploma. I had to move all the way across the country, though, but that's no big deal.
>>25464842
Hello ward clerk
>>25470079
Of the two of us, I bet Im not the one that's had sex, a kiss, or a gf.
YOU GTFO!
>>25467282
This guy did: http://fusion.net/story/212109/jonah-reider-pith-restaurant-columbia-dorm-room/
>>25464235
Isn't the "best tier" different for every individual? Everyone values different things
>>25470449
(^:
it's okay, you won by making me mad. My GPA was above 3 prior to stress/burnout etc. If I negate the last term It'll cancel out the lower one I think
>>25470466
yes, see
>>25466390
originalblox
ITT Status oriented Americunts
>I WENT TO THIS SCHOOL
>THIS IS MY JOB TITLE
>LOOK HOW MUCH SCHOOL POINTS
Fucking pathetic.
>>25464235
why is psychology shit tier?
>>25468447
Why? My grades weren't the greatest, but if you have side projects or real world experience with software development, you should be good.
>>25470480
3.0 poli sci grad here. The only options for us include more school. Either dual major or grad school. I'm in grad school now. You need to really kill the GRE with a low GPA like that, so start studying now.
Your options are either law, public administration, public policy, city planning (what I'm studying), or try to shift gears to another field of study. Keep in mind each program will have different requirements, so look into each option closely.
>>25470649
can you give advice on how to get into public administration or policy?
Also, please give me feedback on how useful/useless a masters in systems science would be
>>25470571
this is why you're poor, eurotrash
>>25470480
Whatever. I never said you couldn't recover. If you're normie enough it probably doesn't even matter.
Anyway, you sound like a drama fag.
>whaaaa I feel bad so I cant do well in school
I l felt like shit and still did well in school. Toughen up wimpy normie.
>>25470649
3.7 political science grad here.
How is city planning? Where are you going to school. Did you go to a top school for undergrad?
Feel like where I went for undergrad is hurting me more than having a worse gpa at a better school
>>25470571
>implying status doesn't matter
>>25470623
You just can't get a job with an undergrad degree. There's plenty of demand for you if you get a phd or even masters.
>went to 5 years of uni for environmental biology
>never graduated but got a shit job in a lab
>lab closed, get fucked
>after being NEET for a few years, unemployment makes me take a job course
>whatever, I'll do the stupid truck driving thing (tractor trailer)
>course is a month, 4 days a week then your test
>pass and get about a million job offers (not because I'm some great driver it's just that there is a SEVERE need of OTR drivers currently)
I've been working over the road for about a year now, make a pretty decent salary too. Best part is I have little to no social interaction.
I electronically recover where my next load is going to be picked up and dropped off. I get there and have to briefly talk to on or two people to see what dock I drop the trailer off at.
Rinse and repeat for however long you want (as long as it's at least 1-2 weeks before they send you home for a few days.
My sleeper cab has everything I need. A small fridge, piss bottles, tv, computer, 4G connection, etc.
Posting from it right now parked Ina truck stop for the night.
>>25469594
Why not save some time and money and apply to Starbucks?
Lol no but seriously kill yourself.
STEM
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>>25471039
pls post pic of your cabine
>>25471055
>he doesn't know STEM is a meme
>mechanical engineer in UK
>drive a 5 year old Audi
>Live in a decent flat by myself because I'm a loner
>Fuck a polish escort for 2 hours once a week (condom but w/ facial)
My career allows me to live a fulfilling robotic life.
>>25471279
link to the escort or pics,pls
>>25471279
nice
what kind of salary allows a life like that
>>25471055
damn you sure changed my opinions. brb gonna go study chemistry for four years and end up teaching retarded inner city school kids for the rest of my life
>>25464087
>he wants to be "useful to the market"
enjoy being a cuck
>>25472062
I want the money famicom
>>25464087
biology is worthless unless you want to go to med/dent/vet/pharm school. bachelors in biology is a one way ticket to $12-15/hour lab tech jobs on permanent temp contract without benefits status. a masters in biology means you MIGHT get to manage those lab techs. a phd in biology means you waste 7 years of your life studying shit no one cares about for the grand reward of spending 4-6 more years doing post-docs before, if you're incredibly lucky, landing a tenure track job at some small shitty university in the middle of no where. a morel likely scenario is you do a post-doc, burn out, desperately try to land one of the few industry jobs available.
>>25472403
>studying shit no one cares about
I-I happen to like biology
>>25472403
Is this any of this true?
>>25472572
Yes, I worked in a bio lab for a year and all the grad students knew they weren't going to get anywhere in life but were too far in it to stop. Ask anyone far along in a masters or doctoral level bio program. They know they're fucked. Only field that has a chance is bioinformatics but that's more comp sci
>>25472516
you're delusional if you think that the average grad student in any field of study publishes results that are important. most of it is just low hanging fruit that your advisor suggests because it's better to publish low hanging fruit than it is to research something difficult, hit a million dead ends, and ultimately have nothing to publish or defend when you're 7 years deep into your PhD.
>>25472572
it's also true for chemistry, and physics, to a lesser extent. studying hard sciences is a fucking dead-end waste of time at every level, from undergraduate to doctorate.
What about Biotechnology?
>>25472704
Not sure how biotech is, I know bioinformatics is the best field in bio right now though
>>25472704
probably a meme degree, too. my guess is that most companies don't need a biotech specialist and so there will be very few job openings -- those openings will be almost exclusively in biotech cities like boston or san francisco, and those cities will have their local targeted universities from which they recruit. those companies will also want someone with at least a masters degree, preferably a doctorate. a bachelors in biotech is at best a feeder degree for the horrible meat grinder that is graduate education.
>>25472684
Are we talking in terms of money here?
>>25472633
>>25472684
Wtf. That sounds harsh. I mean, I'm barely heading into my second semester of college and planning to take a biology class. I eventually want to become a psychiatrist nurse of some sort of doctor but idk yet.
>>25464235
i can confirm aerospace is good because i have two friends that did it and never have trouble finding work
could depend on where you live though
>>25472802
no, i'm talking about even being able to find a job let, alone one that is related to your hypothetical bs/ms/phd in hard science. but even if you do find that job, rest assured that it's going to pay fucking horribly compared to what you could have earned with just a bachelors in engineering, computer science, accounting, finance, nursing, etc.
>>25472572
of course it's true
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>tfw not smart enough to start any sort of money making venture in some random niche market
FUCK
>>25472821
make friends with upperclassmen in your major and keep tabs on them once they graduate. the ones that don't go to grad school and try to stay in science with lab tech jobs, etc. will be making shit money. the ones that go to grad school will be making shit money for the next 7 years of grad school + 2-4 years of post-docs while working 60 hours a week. and then if they're EXTREMELY LUCKY, they'll get an adjunct professorship that maybe pays $30k/yr for another 5+ years before they can even dream of landing tenure and promotion to associate/assistant/junior professorship.
I'm about to start on Computer Science, my goal is to work in computer security. I'm in the United States, how fucked am I? I love math/problem solving
I'm essentially going back to university to study mysticism, and am very excited. I'm already planning my paper for the capstone courses in 4 years; probably something on Jung.
>>25464235
>based on arbitrary credentials.
>>25464722
Accounting can be fun if you love endless organization.
Otherwise, it may actually cause you to off yourself.
>>25469594
If you aren't already good, don't bother. Why are you even going to university?
>>25472633
count in genetics. Genetic medicine is in demand now.
>>25472972
Thanks. This all sounds very scary. What are you doing btw?
>>25473031
Can you get a job that isn't just low paying lab work? I worked in a pop gen lab and all the grad students went on to 10 dollar an hour jobs in unrelated field despite extensive knowledge of genetics and pretty good thesises/other credentials
>>25466936
I know a few guys who did computer science and electrical engineering. Top tier schools here in Canada, too (Waterloo and U of T). These were the cockiest cunts before and during their degree. Now one guys tells me 40% of the people he graduated with haven't found jobs in the field (it's been a year and a half). Some went into more debt for Masters. Sucks for them, guess the bar got raised.
>>25473063
i have a bachelors in math. thought i wanted to be a doctor so i applied to and was accepted to med school. hated it and dropped out after a semester. can't find work with my bachelors because, surprise surprise, a bachelors in math is absolutely worthless. im going to start a masters in accounting in august, with the goal of getting my CPA and working in public accounting.
>>25473124
How old are you now? I was just gonna ask that to though about math lol. I don't even know what kinda jobs you can get with a math degree. I was thinking about accounting and one of my teachers recommended accounting but I imagine it would be fairly boring.
>>25472973
You'll be fine. Just study hard. Comp Sci has a high dropout rate as it can be very difficult at first.
>>25473226
im turning 27 in july.
math can be an okay degree if you want to teach. it's also good if you want to study statistics or double major in math and computer science. the degree on its own is worthless. if you stick with math, for the love of fucking god make sure you do as many internships as you can.
desu ive only taken one accounting class, and that was in high school. i need a career-track job because i cant take menial wageslavery with no hope of promotion for the rest of my life.
from my limited view of accounting, parts of it are boring, yes. some of it is engaging and the larger picture of it all -- the language of business and such -- is interesting.
>>25468328
I'd say engineering has about 20 years left of decent job-finding and earning potential.
They're planning to massively raise the H-1B cap. It's currently at 65,000/year, they want to bump it to 115-300k
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/169
>Immigration Innovation Act of 2013 or the I-Squared Act of 2013 - Amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to establish an annual cap on H-1B visas (specialty occupations) at between 115,000 and 300,000 visas depending upon market conditions and existing demand. Sets forth allocation provisions.
If this won't pass, they'll ram it through in some other bill
Also, look at the top of that chart - Chemical and Energy. Commodities suck right now, oil is dead, yes it's cyclical but still, Aerospace is very highly dependent on government funding.
>>25473384
Yeah I also took one accounting class in high school my last two years. I feel exactly the same way about your last point,though. My dumb fear of it is being some boring job where I'm stuck in a room filling out ledgers all day.
>>25470005
To recieve a higher education you fool.
>>25473098
You can be a teacher and work in public health.
Usually people majoring in biology or chemistry will work in labs. Check the "indeed" site.
>>25473384
what about the insurance industry? could somebody with a math degree work as an actuary?
>>25473492
do whatever you state requires to become CPA eligible and sit for the CPA exam ASAP. work hard, get a good GPA, and get a job in public accounting. it can be tedious and the hours can be shit, but it's supposedly a lot more exciting than lower-level industry accounting. then you either have the option of staying in public accounting and working your way up to senior management/partnership, or leaving for higher-ranking industry positions. depending on how many years you worked in public accounting, this can include assistant controller, controller, CFO of small/mid sized companies, etc.
>>25473617
yeah but i have no interest in actuarial work and i've heard the job market for junior actuaries has tightened up significantly over the past 5-10 years.
>>25473111
>haven't found jobs in the field (it's been a year and a half)
This was me but two years. I'm working in the field now. Did your cocky friend found a job too?
>>25473593
Yeah and most lab jobs pay shit. What makes genetics different? That it has more jobs that pay shit? lab positions are slowly being taken over by robots anyways since it's fucking repetitive and exact.
>>25470005
Unless you want to work entry level retail, clerical, or do hard labor for the rest of your life you have to go to college.
It's not even hard either. One certificate or AS degree in accounting could get you a job as a bookkeeper or payroll earning 30k+
>>25473623
I don't understand most of that much but I'll research it. Thanks. Good luck with all your stuff anon
>>25470005
to crash this economy with no survivors
that's about all college is good for at this point
>>25473799
as shit as reddit is, /r/accounting is a pretty good resource.
>>25473690
Genetics is an ongoing field of study. Genetic counselors are needed to work with doctors and do research on genetic issues.
I forgot the field of neurology which is an ongoing field of study in demand.
And biotechnology, bioinformatics as some-else wrote.
>>25473862
I'll check it out. And yeah, it is. Can't even go on r/news without reading some dumbass shit
It's becoming less about what you study and more about who your family is and how actually smart you are
I mean, it's always been that way to an extent, but with unions and manufacturing going away, and massive migration from the poorer parts, feels like we might go back to castes.
Every time tuition goes up by +3-5% per year do people stop and re-evaluate if it's worth it? I feel like student loans are going to be the next big bubble.
>>25473989
>next big bubble
you think?
wow thanks for that prediction einstein
>tfw halfway into my 3rd year as a useless economics major
>tfw some of your classmates still haven't got jobs two years after graduation
I wish I could help them out but cant
>>25474208
ahahahaah faggotts
I've graduated already and am currently a software engineer, but my degree was dual Math/CompSci. From what I can tell, the more math your degree has the better off you'll be money-wise.
That said, I do still spend a lot of my free time learning about the liberal arts I missed out on. I'd like to learn how to sculpt, and I've watched possibly a hundred history documentaries in the past year or two.
people will always think of servicemen more highly than any other job. how does it feel knowing that a 90 IQ monkey gets more bitches than pHd students
>>25474290
Don't laugh. I feel bad for them. Worst part is it is engineering, so they fell for the meme
>>25474416
>they even fell for the meme
AHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT UFCKING FAGGOTS LMAO
>>25474308
lol nobody thinks highly of you freeloading faggots. get a job
>>25464679
This is true. At my school like 10% of the MechEs are girls and around 40% of the BME's are girls.
>>25464515
Hell I'd put electrical engineering in the unbelievable tier just because of how hard it is. It's probably the second hardest engineering major behind engineering physics but engineering physics doesn't really have as much job prospects so it might as well be the hardest "real" engineering degree. This is coming from a MechE student.
>Tfw academically disqualified
>>25468441
this image is some good quality bait
>>25468172
>>25467773
well one of the things I do which I enjoy a lot is reconciliation, ie going through our various sheets/statements to make sure everything matches. if something is off, figuring out exactly where that discrepancy is, what caused it, how we'll fix that in the sheets, etc. I'm good at it, feels just like a puzzle. I definitely get why people would think it's boring, but there's a lot of different sub-sets for accounting. Also, since the work I do is very much factual and logic-based, I rarely find myself second-guessing my conclusions. It just all makes sense to me and I actually feel confident about what I'm doing, which is a nice change...
>>25464679
>going into engineering for pussy
hahahah wow dude
>>25473461
which is why ME, CHE, and EE are the only real choices
drop out rate 50%. engineering schools 70% of students never graduate.
enjoy your lifelong student debts kek.
remember to thank hillary for that you cannot discharge student loans in Bankruptcy
>>25474091
>merton jump diffusion
>time to maturity
>implied volatility
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH. are they making this shit up just for fun and some content for morons to study?? you will never ever use this stuff in any economics/finance related job.
>>25464542
Kek, are you the guy who said he wanted to kill himself because he was majoring in Human Resources?
>>25468674
Oh, so is it better to find a subset of biology that you like?
Because I really enjoy botany, zoology. I would like to do research in either field, horticulture, work in conservation, vet work, etc.
So would it be good for me to do a major like that as opposed to a general biology degree?
>same would apply to any other subset
>>25471039
>I'm an environmental biology fag
Help.
>>25472704
lmao just got a degree n biotech don't listen to >>25472798 they have no fucking idea what they are talking about
Just before I graduated did 3-5 interviews A WEEK.
It looks good as fuck on a resume, because it's new
You get trained to use the newest biology machinery.
BIOTECHNOLOGY is literally what computer science was to the 70s.
If you make a successful drug, instant 100million+ dollars if you pick something worth it.
Creating a drug can cost 1billion+, but investors come quick, if you have data backing you drugs.
My first job over 50k full benefits.
I am in a major city, but not san fransico or boston, stay in a big city, and you will be fine plenty of job offers, it's WWWWWAAAYYYY better than biology.
You literally can take anything in nature splice its DNA, and literally create new life that never existed.
Biotechnology is probably the best degree that is out right now,
If you open your own biotech company, which is essentially just different pieces of lab equipment in a room, ( you might need a clean room, which is hella expensive, depending on what you make) you can pretty much guarantee you will be a millionaire, and you can make more than doctors.
Make antibodies, ferrari at a young age.
