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do you guys have any idea how hard it is to friendzone a guy?
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do you guys have any idea how hard it is to friendzone a guy? when we say we like you as friends we're not lying and obviously thinking that you can't have a female friend like you have male friends is not exactly right. i mean i respect that opinion but i think its possible for female and male friends exist. anyway. if you ever get friendzoned don't just quit us or else you'll show/make us think that you don't actually like us just that you want to conquer us or have sex and thats sad. a female friend and a male friend can hang out together, talk, discuss, have activities and so on. its just that girls and women in general are looking for certain aspects in a romantic relationship that you may lack. so just a reminder to all you guys out there if you ever get friendzoned don't take it bad, we like friends too and if we say that we like you as friends take it as a compliment and not as a lie. once there was a really smart guy who was into me, we'd play risk and chess together, he confessed but i told him we were just friends and we're still friends to this day and nothing really awkward so come on
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>>25450501

The problem is, by doing so you hurt us so bad that we can't stand being in your presence anymore because - well - it hurts.
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>>25450547
Then just let us make a move or learn to read in between the lines. The whole point is when you are friendzoned we also feel bad and guilty and so you're ruining a great friendship
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>tfw i friend zoned a girl before
>I really really really liked her
>I was too awkward and scared when she asked me to be with her
>tfw i live with no ambition or reason
>I keep wondering if living is even worth it
>I use myself as a tool to serve other peoples needs, not my own

Maybe my life would be different had i said yes. I'll never know now but i know i'll never be happy either.
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>>25450600

Doesn't matter. When I say it hurts, I mean *HURTS*. Not just "ouch, you slapped me" hurts but "AHHHHHH WTF YOU JUST BROKE MY LEG YOU CRAZY FUCK AHHHHHHH" hurts.

People wouldn't walk away from or hate girls that did this otherwise.
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>>25450501
Do you understand how selfish it is too think that a guy that was into you should keep the friendship with you even though it hurts to even interact with you after being rejected?

The whole point is that from the beginning they NEVER viewed you as one of their bros, they viewed you as potential relationship material, and when they find out that you are not into them at all, they get very upset since you are pretty much saying they are not worthy of that kind of affection from you on an instinctual level.

Think about it: all that time they spent thinking about you instead of thinking about other things, only to find out the harsh reality that a relationship with the girl that they hold in high regards will never happen? You are essentially crushing their hopes, which you honestly can't help because you never found them attractive. So what should you do then?

The least cruel thing you can do is say that you had fun spending time with them, that you hope they find love one day, and just let them go. Don't try to be friends with them anymore, because that friendship was destroyed the moment he took the risk for a relationship with you.
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>>25450501
while you're not obligated to fuck someone just because they are being nice to you, there are plenty of perfectly understandable reasons why a guy wouldn't want to be friends with you after you friendzone him.

1. He just wanted to fuck you, he might not think that to maintain some kind of self image and get all whiny, or he might know that full well and drop you knowing he won't get anywhere with you.
2. He actually did genuinely like you and cannot handle that you don't like him back, might take it as his fault, might blame you. Imagine being friends with someone who makes you feel inferior on that level. Doesn't seem healthy does it?
3. You may just have had a one sided friendship. I'm sure a guy friend can be a nice break from catty drama that girlfriends can bring. I know some guys really cant express or be themselves in their group of guy friends either, so it's a nice change of pace for both of you. That is why you would even argue a post like this in the first place, because men and women can make great friends. However there have been times where I have been friends with a girl with no desire for things to be romantic and just found that I was being used as an emotional dumpster. I would be there for her and help her as I would help any female friend but I just did not get that reciprocation. The friendship was all about her. If I was kicked out of my house and needed somewhere to crash? I would get :(

just :(

I just gave you one of those and I don't even fucking know you. Friendship is a give and take thing and while you're by no means obligated to fuck every guy who's done something nice for you, if there is no weight behind the friendship other than there is a chance you may feel something more towards him, then of course he would be done with you once you friend zone him.

TL;DR I don't know you but you may be a shitty friend to some of these guys, or they were shitty friends to you.
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>>25450899
>>25450878

This also means that yes, you can weasel out of this and still have your friendship - if and only if you fuck the guy.

Then you can let it slide into a FWB relationship and eventually just stop fucking each other.

It might sound like a lot of work but it's the only way really.
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FUCK how many times do we have to go over this.


IF HE ISN'T ENTITLED TO A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU, THEN YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO HIS FRIENDSHIP.

IF you want the FRIENDSHIP take the RELATIONSHIP or SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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>>25450501
fuck that shit no man should suffer the pain of being blue balls around a girl they like. also I would not be surprise if you manipulate him in anyway in this type of relationship.
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i have a female friend that I do absolutely nothing for

shes tried to get me interested in so much shit that i dont care about

i know if she stopped playing counterstrike and/or basketball i would just forget to talk to her

its weird how i dont feel the same loyalty/bond with her as with most of my male friends

maybe i am big sexist piggu!
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>>25450501
>if you ever get friendzoned don't just quit because you'll make us think that you don't actually like us you just want to have sex
That is because the only reason we ever get close to you is to have sex, and when you make that an impossibility there is absolutely no point in hanging out with you anymore.
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>>25450501

ya we try to stay friends but as the other anon said it "hurts" especially when the girl goes off and parties and sleeps with whomever.

that's just how it is. and it doesn't mean that we're upset with you because we stop calling, we're just doing what we feel is best for us and that is taking a big break from the friendship and her and re-evaluating what i want in my life.

and it doesn't mean that we stopped being friends either. we may be distant and sometimes for good, but we still think about you and hope that you're doing just fine.

i kept going for as long as i could, but there really wasn't a cure for the pain except doing more friendzoney things. and i say "pain" and it really sounds emo, but for me it was a physical pain in my heart (like a frequent "stab") and felt a deep sorrow emotionally.

and the only way to make it not hurt for a little bit was to do more crazy nice things in the name of "friendship" but doing that only brings temporary reprieve and i would just hurt later when i wasn't with her.

and you can call me selfish for breaking it off, but i can't expect anyone else to take care of me and it came to point where i had to choose to me over keeping this high level friendzone going.
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Girls and guys can only be friends under the strictest conditions. Usually through a mutual relationship (your friends girlfriend, vice versa). Any other set up and you will have at least one person who has an interest in the other. Then, when one decides to confess their affections or try and initiate a relationship and is rejected, it is simply unhealthy for them to try and maintain the friendship afterwards, at least immediately. They would just orbit, and come to resent the person, and have the friendship die off anyway.

I myself am in a situation where a girl knows how I feel about her (and she said the same, but has now switched on that) and is really trying to drive home the "you're my friend" rhetoric. It doesn't make me feel good to see it, and I'd hate myself if I were to hang around her as some kind of orbiting loser. Better to cut her off and spare myself the pain of it.
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Female friends suck. If I know that you've already limited where the relationship can go, why even bother having a woman around?
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>>25451208

Yes. It's actual chest pains. And you want to cry.

I can't really describe it and I don't think girls experience this.
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>don't just quit us or else you'll show/make us think that you don't actually like us just that you want to conquer us or have sex and thats sad
People quit those friendships because they're uncomfortable, not because it was only a desire for sex.
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>>25450501
go post tits on /b/ if you want attention and free replys
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>>25451258
>>25451263
im this guy>>25451098
if you arent sexually attracted to the girl and they are similar to a real faggy dude then why not let them hang out with you?

not every friend has to be on the level of a brother imo farm
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>>25451208

continued.

and you talk about how the girl is worried about the guy only wanting to "sexually conquer" her, but i'll raise the point where the girl doesn't know how the guy feels and how it hurts us when she rejects him, and then goes off and sleeps with someone more suited to her tastes.

i don't hold any grudges against her for not choosing me, she's my friend but i don't have any answers on how to deal with the hurt and loss i feel except to cut ties and take a break and find someone else.

and finding someone else isn't a perfect answer either, im still lonely, but at least i don't hurt anymore and the pain begins to fade.

the sadness stays somewhat, but that is easier to deal with than the sharp, lancing heart pains i get when im being "cucked".
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>>25451277

i feel ya man. i think they do experience it, but in this case i don't think op realizes that her guy friend is feeling this way since she doesn't see him as a romantic partner in the first place.
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>>25450501

Are you just trying to attention whore or are you actually so stupid you don't know that friend zoning means leading a guy on and manipulating him to get free shit? Friend zone is used tongue in cheek. It doesn't refer to girls wanting to be friends with a male.
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You have no clue how bad it hurts
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>>25451400

No it doesn't. It just refers to the zone you wind up in when someone says "let's just be friends" and you try to be friends.
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>>25450501
>just that you want to conquer us or have sex

This is what life boils down to. You need to put out.
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I feel like there should be a rule that if a girl leads a guy on and then ultimately drops the FZ bomb, she should at least have to give him a courtesy BJ to soften the blow... then staying as friends is in question.
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It's not just the hurt of getting refused. It's the embarrassment, more than anything. The guy sucked it up, worked up his nerve, and told you how he felt, and you said no. The shame of that ruins his ability to deal with you, because all he can remember is that moment.

Aside from that, think about it, if that guy, who you know likes you, sticks around, he's eventually going to have to watch you get with a different guy. Think about how inferior and worthless that makes him feel.
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this is called dating out of your league, retards

when you get friend-zoned, this is a bitches way of telling you you've overstepped your bounds
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>>25450501
i think if you were worth having as a friend without the need for sex you could find someone interested in being you friend

guys have a deep fear of being taken advantage of so you will meet men who don't want to be your friend on principle but there are some who will give you the benefit of the doubt and see where the relationship goes. The problem is that if you are attractive then he will probably want to fuck you and then it goes to shit.

If you are unnattractive then you have a good shot at making a guy friend!
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>have a friend
>she's beyond qt
>really hot too
>my 10/10
>only girl I've liked this much in years
>we friends
>text her I like her a lot and she's gorgeous
>she never responds
>I text her a couple more times at risk of being pathetic
>never responds
fuck that bitch, sometimes you dickfiends can't even keep it a friendship
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>" i think its possible for female and male friends exist"
>no
We want to fuck you.
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shit bait, kill yourself

don't take this personally though :^)
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Female friends are trash. You are not interesting, you try to use us as emotional tampons, you do not help friends out like men do for other men., you gossip and backstab to earn social status, and finally you completely desert us as soon as you find a boyfriend.
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>>25451572

i.e. women are the ones with actual unrealistic expectations when it comes to dating. fuck off

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/
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>>25451604
>text her I like her a lot and she's gorgeous

that's where you fucked up, brah. if she really was as qt as you say and your "10/10", then imagine all of the other guys who have done the same thing since she turned like 13 years old and now she's desensitized.

you need to devalue her.
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>>25451466

That's what roastie sluts like you want people to believe because the truth makes you look bad. Why would a guy complain about a girl wanting to be friends? It's the dishonest bitch leading a guy on that we have a problem with.
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if you really want her and care about being in a relationship with her, it physically hurts to get rejected on top of all the emotional stuff lol.

i wish i was making this up but im not. feels like im gonna have a heart attack/invisible fork in my heart.

or i like to imagine that it's Chad's ghost dick fucking through a hole in my heart as he bangs mai friendfu.
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>>25450501
It depends on the guy, also your concept of the world is warped.

>if you ever get friendzoned don't just quit us or else you'll show/make us think that you don't actually like us just that you want to conquer us or have sex and that's sad.

Why is wanting to have sex sad? It's literally one of the two biological needs that people have. Survival and reproduction. If you don't reproduce you are a failure. All of your ancestors going back to the beginning of time were able to reproduce, but you won't be able to. That's a shitty feeling. Of course guys want sex. It's the most basic thing about being human.

>it's just that girls and women in general are looking for certain aspects in a romantic relationship that you may lack.

Do you realize how fucking shitty that is to do to someone (granted any guy who is attracted to a women and continues a close friendship has himself to blame)?

It's basically like, "I think you're kind of a decent person, but you're a fucking loser and I would never entertain the thought of sex with you. LOL DID YOU REALLY THINK I THOUGHT THAT HIGHLY OF YOU? FUCK NO YOU LOSER YOU AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.

Why would anyone want to hang out with you at that point?

I have female friends, but not close friends. Close, sexless relationships with females are for homosexual males. The only other time it's okay is if you're getting pussy somewhere else. If you're close friends with a woman and not getting pussy from her or any other woman you are wasting your time. The time you spend with that woman could be used with another woman you could actually have sex with and thus be able to live without hating yourself.


this is obviously a bait thread.
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You know why this whole friendzone thing happens?

It's because us men look for exactly the same things in a girlfriend that we do in friends. We're attracted to women who share our interests, who we can have fun with, who we like spending time with and who we're comfortable around.

Even if we get into the friendship with no expectations, it's kind of automatic that we start to want to fuck you and maybe even fall in love with you.
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>>25450743
You fucked up, all you had to do is say yes.
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>>25451604ia.
You could also rape her and Threaten to kill her if she talks. or buy that one drug that makes you have amnesia.The fact that you haven't done any of these things yet makes you a faggot.
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>>25451714
>It's basically like, "I think you're kind of a decent person, but you're a fucking loser and I would never entertain the thought of sex with you. LOL DID YOU REALLY THINK I THOUGHT THAT HIGHLY OF YOU? FUCK NO YOU LOSER YOU AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.

This nails it pretty well. When you reject us and still want to be friends, you've basically told us that we meet the qualifications that we'd look for in a relationship, but you don't want us because of things we can't do much about.
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its why hookers exist lol. positive note - it feels great to bang a hot escort after getting rejected by your friend fu.
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>>25451724
This guys got it.

Also, "anon, you're an amazing guy. Any girl would be lucky to have you!" Any girl except them or any other girl they know. But somehow, I'm so amazing you don't wanna fuck me.

Best part is, if I do find a girl that does find me amazing the previous girl gets salty about it every fuckin time.
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>>25451665
I just knew I was gonna get rejected anyway and wanted to end it already.
Also I cannot do those 'pickup-chicks-manual' kind of things. Actuallly, reading such a book about picking up chicks severely crippled my way around girls, now I feel I'm Doing It Wrong whenever I do what I used to do because "you need to devalue her" and so I stop and try to force "devaluing her" but it fucks the whole thing up. I used to just talk to them nicely and maybe one in a bunch would bite. Now I pretend to be cold and they don't give a fuck
Fuck protocol
fuck bitches
and fuck social standards
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>>25451814
fucking hell, this.

I'm so goddamn sick of "I can't believe you don't have a girlfriend, anon! You're so fun to be around and you're good-looking and really cool. I'm sure you'll find one soon!"

Actually, I'll admit that I have a female friend who keeps trying to set me up with her female friends, but said girl used to be really fat and is a huge tumblrcore weeb and I'm really scared that any girl she'll set me up with will either be a landwhale, will be an obnoxious nutjob, or it just won't work out and it'll be embarrassing for everybody involved.
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>>25451859

Yeah, try teasing the women a little bit and always respond to their questions with indifference. In the mean time, just look on the internet for a hot prostitute to bang who has an in-call.
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Imagine playing a multiplayer game, you are doing well at it and playing to the best of your ability
Then you find out you could never win, cause some faggot admin on the server has given his friend god mode, so he wins irregardless of what he does
You'd be pissed off and stop playing right?
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Ok, if there ARE any femanons here, can you explain why you show obvious signs of interest toward your male friends and then reject them?

I had this one female friend. I wasn't really interested in her at the beginning, she wasn't my type and I just had fun hanging out with her.

But over a few months, she kept doing stuff. She'd give me eyes in public. She'd beg to come to parties with me and then hang all over me the whole time, so I couldn't talk to other girls. She'd get physically close to me all the time. She'd talk about sex all the time, and complain that she wasn't satisfied with anybody she'd been with. Most blatantly, she regularly went without underwear, and she'd often sit in front of me with her legs open, so I could see everything.

Of course I took it as an invitation, started getting into her, and finally got drunk one night and told her.

She flipped out, left immediately, and then made up a bunch of bullshit about what happened and told it to everybody she knew, and hasn't spoken to me since.
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>>25451964

its a game to them ofc.

i think the only winning move is to not make a move because she will make a move.

just worry about you're self
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>>25450600
I have only ever been friendzoned. I am always 'too nice' and have the 'your a great person anon' speech so many times.

I have actually just gave up on trying to get a girlfriend and going off to university and coming back has left me with no friends and thus no prospects in that are anyway.

So now I just pay for escorts once a month.
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>>25451964

she basically wanted rape. It's either that or she's an evil person who liked torturing you.

I think she wanted to turn you on so bad that you would grab her and forcefuck her cause she's just so hot and irresistable that you just can't help yourself. Many women want to think of themselves as so sexy that guys would be unable to control themselves.

Of course a lot of this is subconscious. No woman raised today would actually want this. They want their husband or boyfriend to act this way so it's okay.

But fuck dude, if she's running around talking about sex and showing you her pussy I can't believe she wouldn't want to fuck. Maybe she just thought the way you went about it was too pussy so she didn't fuck you.
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>>25450501
Friendship as a consolation prize is no friendship. It's just a way to soothe your conscious. It's self-serving and transparent.
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>>25452107
Why bother with these regarded mental games
Why is thinking straight and doing what is mutually beneficial and straightforward impossible for these ratbrains instead of being totally neurotic
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>>25452107
Yeah, pretty much.

This is why I'm so fucked when it comes to women in general. They all seem to want me to get on the razor's edge of getting thrown in prison before they want anything to do with me.
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>>25450810
You type like a gay man. No wonder you're getting friendzoned.
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>>25451943
This is a pretty shitty analogy, dickface
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>>25450501
You, as friendzone people you have a hard Any ideas? When we say we love your friend, we obviously do not lie, and we believe that you can not have friends, like you have male friend is not quite right T. I mean, I respect the opinion, I think it could exist for men and women friends. Anyway. If you have the opportunity friendzoned or just abandon us, we continue to have sex, how we want to win, you do not really feel / doctrine would you like me, it is not sad. The man and other friends to hang, as conversations, discussions, and activities I .. It makes you miss some aspects of romantic relationships, they are just looking for a general girls and women. If you have the opportunity to take friendzoned not that good, we do not compliment your friend there for so long, he says, the love, but take it as a lie all to remind us, too, as well as friends. I was there, we are a very clever man, to put the risks and chess together, but he explained, I told him that we're just friends, our friends are still, because it is not a shame that on this day, we come
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>>25452107
I think maybe I waited too long, and had spent too much time talking to her about my own issues and stuff beforehand.

I really wasn't interested at first, though. She was chubby, not very cute in the face, hair like a tumblr feminist, kind of loud and crude, etc.

But man, she knew I had a thing for girls not wearing panties (what guy doesn't?) and we actually used to get in arguments about it, she didn't think it was hot and it was through her comments that I figured out that she preferred not wearing them, and that's when I started getting interested.

And then, after seeing that perfectly shaved innie cunt of hers, I couldn't stop thinking about it. Hell, I'm still pissed as shit at her, and I still fap to thoughts of fucking it.

I just don't get it, man, girls seem to only want guys who come at them hard and fast right out of the gate, and I just don't get interested enough to do that until I actually know them.
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>guy leads me on with friendship
>turns out he only wanted me because he's just past 30 and feeling his age and can no longer get girls in their 20s
>"friendzone" him
>he threatens to kill himself unless I become his girlfriend

yes friendzoning is hard at times
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>>25452298
Addendum

At least I know I didn't really fuck it up and it was just bad luck, although maybe that makes it worse.

Other friends of mine were around for the whole saga, and one turned out to have been right outside the door and overheard what happened the night I told her I wanted to fuck her.

Possibly the most frustrating thing about my entire life experience with girls is that everybody tells me I'm not really doing anything wrong. It'd be so much easier if they said "oh, you're ugly" or "here's the wrong thing you said" or whatever, but instead, both guys and girls watch this shit go down, and tell me "honestly, man, you did right, I couldn't believe she shot you down, I guess it's just bad luck."
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>>25451964
>she regularly went without underwear, and she'd often sit in front of me with her legs open
I don't know how it would work but if I female friend did this with me I'd instantly suggest drinks/if we should go back to our places.
If she was caught off guard I'd call her out on literally showing me her cunt and not expecting me to want to fuck her.
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>>25452293
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From a biological perspective that looks at human evolution, it makes 0 ducking sense for a man to become friends with a female. To be a female and want male friends is selfish in that a male can offer his strength and other things. A relationship in which only one individual benefits is parasitism. FUCK YOU WHORE. YOU'RE TRICKS DO NOT WORK ON HE WHO COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDS(NOT REALLY) EVOLUTION.
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>>25450501
You, as friendzone you have any ideas? When we talk with our friends, we obviously can not lie, and we believe you can not have friends, as you have friends who do not quite have my man's T. I respect I think it may be because the men and women friends. Anyway. If you have the opportunity to friendzoned or just abandon us, we continue to have sex, how do we want to win, you do not really feel / teacher you would like me, not grudgingly. The man and other friends to hang, like a conversation, a conversation, and I do .. It makes you miss some aspects of romantic relationships, and they are looking for a girl in general girls and women. If you have the opportunity to friendzoned not good, we do not merit to be friends for a long time, he said, love, and considered it a false reminds us, too, as well as friends. I was there, we are a very smart man, and put the risk in chess, and he explained, and I told him that we were just friends, we remain friends and respect and it is a shame that today, we have to
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>>25452377
What is your first language?

1
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>>25451921
>their questions
>implying they ever talk to me first if at all
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>>25452377
One more time, dude. It almost made a bit more sense this time
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>OP.jpg
Nice meme.
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