As one anon said
"There will be no shy virgin male surrounded by females who want to bang him
There will be no assertive gentle female to take his virginity and get him to come out of his shell
This is the very reason females have it so much easier, the reverse scenario is completely inconceivable to them."
Why can't this happen?
Was there ever a time in the US or anywhere else in the world where this was common?
>>25444178
if they regulated and legalized sex work it would be a good compromise.
Europe has it. but then human trafficking problems.
>>25444178
>what is biology
>how do the male and female differ when it comes to reproduction
>how does that affect each ones social roles?
>>25444178
maybe cuz im fucked up now but reading
>"There will be no shy virgin male surrounded by females who want to bang him. There will be no assertive gentle female to take his virginity and get him to come out of his shell
This is the very reason females have it so much easier, the reverse scenario is completely inconceivable to them."
makes me wish i died in iraq or ukraine
A Stacy once told me, "virgin guys are so cute and sexy. I wanna fuck them so they're new to me"
>>25444462
If she barely knew you and you told her you were a virgin would she have sex with you?
When I was a virgin I had two different girls seriously willing to take my v-card.
Im not from america tho
>>25444714
Did they already know you pretty well and like you pretty well or did they just find out you were one and they came to you?
>>25444178
To a woman everything is based on what their reptile brain decides, so on an instinctive level a virgin is a male that has not breeded, that has not received positive attention from women meaning he must be genetic shit for this to possible.
>>25444777
Dont they understand that there has to be an original?
Do they think we are born non virgins?
Easiest way to explain:
If you have a key, that unlocks many locks, it's a good key.
If you have a lock, that can be unlocked by many keys, its a bad lock.
>>25444967
Humans are not keys
>>25445281
>missing the point this hard
The key/lock analogy is very simple and straightforward. I can't dumb it down any further. Are you mentally retarded?
>>25445388
But it doesn't make any sense.
How does a penis compare to a key, as a vagings to a lock? As if a vagina is something to be conquered? And a penis is the instrument to do so?
That's an unhealthy view of sex and desu is the reason people are still called sluts.
>>25445388
It just doesn't make any sense. A penis is not a lock, you're not unlocking vaginas when you stick it into them. Therefore it doesn't have the same utility as a lock. The same with vaginas. It has no logical meaning.
>>25444879
Reptile brain does not care about feelings only instinct meaning you are shit if you are a virgin.
>>25445516
>it doesn't make any sense.
because you're a cuck.
>a vagina is something to be conquered?
Yes of course you idiot. Women are the gatekeepers of sex.
>That's an unhealthy view of sex
Unhealthy compared to what?
Should I just ignore female nature and put women on a pedestal as untouchable goddesses? The fuck is wrong with you?
>>25445516
>>25445565
This
fuck orignality
Fuck you auto ban fuck off DIE RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>25444178
Oh wow, that anon was me, and that thread died.
>>25445697
This whole "men and women have to be in competition when it comes to sex like its all some big game and we are on opposite and opposing teams" is fucking bullshit and hurts both sides.
Men and women need to all be on the same team and fuck around with each other freely and just for the sake of sex itself.
Guys need to stop being shamed for not getting laid and girls need to stop being shamed for having sex.
And we need to obliterate these fucking gay "lock and key" dynamics and all that shit.
>>25445738
Tried to respond to you but it 404d before I couldnt
>>25444318
I kinda wish you'd died too.
Preselection.
Only whores go after virgin guys. Virgin guys are undersirable to women since no woman has preselected them. It really comes down to a depressing thought... At least 1 girl wanted your cum inside of her, and that makes you more attractive to other women if you tell them. Obviously the fembots here would think UM NO I DONT WANT YOUR CUM INSIDE OF ME!! But it's the sexual act that's really the preselector, not whether the egg gets inseminated.
Girls aren't really conquerors. Men feel a need to impregnate a virgin woman, or want to be her first. It's a special thing for them. They've literally gone where no man has gone before.
Is a rape victim still a virgin?No.
>>25445787
>Men and women need to all be on the same team and fuck around with each other freely and just for the sake of sex itself.
Believe it or not, I actually agree with this. I'm 100% on board with sexual egalitarianism. However, no matter how many beautiful speeches you make, women will never stop pining for chad. Robots like myself at the bottom of the social hierarchy wil never have a chance.
>>25445516
The man is the key. He uses his cunning to hack the lock into opening.
The vagina is something to be conquered... The penis just gives those men the chemical desire to conquer the woman.
>>25446039
yes, women are a tool men use to reproduce
>>25446002
How do women expect a guy to have sex if being a virgin makes it so no woman wants to have sex with him and yet we are born virgins?
Do they expect us to just lie until we can trick some girl into it?
So they are actually ok with us lying?
None of this makes any sense
>>25446017
I've heard that back in the 60s, 70s, and 80s sexual egalitarianism was the thing and literally everyone could get laid, I'm not sure whats changed but I think smart phones, social media, and feminism have all played a large part.
>>25446039
Why don't women just wanna have sex for the sake of having sex?
>inb4 they do but only with chad
Why do women get so wet for chad when chads are rare (so many robots think that chads are the norm but in reality most normie guys aren't chads but are in a sort of in between zone of being a robot and a chad, they are definitely a lot closer to being a chad than a robot but they still dont classify as one)
Dont women understand that the numbers are all off?
Look whats happening in china, except there its kinda like whats happening here except the shortage of girls is not being caused by them refusing to have sex with most guys most of the time but rather the birth rates are all off because people dont want girls so they abort them (sometimes even after they are born)
So their values sytem is the opposite of ours (men are valued more than women) but they are running into the same problem, the lack of everyone being able to fuck
I really feel more and more that US women just plain old fucking suck.
That's what guys from other countries say too.
>>25446231
>Why don't women just wanna have sex for the sake of having sex?
They don't have the desires a man has. They have a similar one, but it's different. Women want sex because they desire closeness with a man they've selected as being top-tier. If she wants you BAD, and you've been teasing her to increase her overall desire...the sex you'll have will be just as good as sex with a "chad". Women don't want to just have sex. They want to have sex with someone they've selected as the guy who's child she wants to bear right that second. You're trying to argue that the pleasure women get during sex is good enough for them to want it often and from anyone. Sex for women is a gamble. They could be killed, have their vaginas torn apart, held down against their will for an anus ramming, someone might film them and expose them for being promiscuous, or even open up for ridicule when exposing their naked body to a man they like for the first time.
Men don't want to just have sex. They want to have sex with a girl they find attractive. Not some old stinky landwhale girl, or some 7 year old. Because neither of those are attractive.
Hey, I tried, but his dick doesn't work. He has to get warmed up, and by the time he's ready to put it in he's cum all over my back or chest. I'll keep trying but it's kind of discouraging.
>>25445516
>>25445565
Man/penis = key
Woman/vagina = lock
Men who uses their key to get a lot of sex are majority of the time as players. Women who are used by many keys are considered Whores.
Do you get it now?
Some girls find virgin guys sexy. I talked to a few at a party once and they said that they like taking his "innocence" in a sense and that he will probably be clingy to and girls like that. But only if the guy is attractive of course.
>>25446499
So your saying that women don't really enjoy sex itself and for them its just an emotional bonding thing, and that they cannot comprehend doing it just for the sake of the act itself?
Because if its done right a women can be just as well off as a man can, but just (insert penis A into vagina B and thrust) won't do it for the majority of them, but if you know what your doing they are set.
Why don't women just start pushing for guys to actually give a shit about getting them off too (God damnit I would love to eat a girl out, like literally I want to slobber all over a pussy lol it would be so fucking hot), and say that in turn for that they will be more promiscuous?
>could be killed
Only if your going into da hood and offering to have sex
>held down against their will for an anus ramming
Who the hell are they agreeing to get naked with?
>someone might film them and expose them
Then just watch out for cameras but honestly its like "haha your having sex and thats something to be ashamed of" when its totally not.
>ridicule when getting naked
Then tell him to fuck off
>Men don't want to just have sex. They want to have sex with a girl they find attractive. Not some old stinky landwhale girl, or some 7 year old. Because neither of those are attractive.
Speak for yourself, as a virgin I want to just feel what a bareback pussy is like, I don't care about the age IF the pussy itself is large enough for my dick to fit to the hilt, and its not all old and decrepit
So I guess 14-54 would be the age range?
Could vary a bit depending on the girl
>>25446608
It doesn't have to be this way and it shouldn't be this way
>>25446608
They understand the fucking analogy, you moron.
They're saying that comparing humans to keys and locks is asinine and has no logic to it. Which it doesn't.
>>25445388
Kekekekekekekekekek
>>25446499
>>25446801
And I don't care if they are fat either
>>25446231
>How do women expect a guy to have sex if being a virgin makes it so no woman wants to have sex with him and yet we are born virgins?
Most girls don't care that a guy is virgin at a younger age. As we approach 20 or even 30, they start to care because most guys have already had sex by that point and if they didn't, then they immedietly think that something is wrong with them. Most girls at an older age also don't want to get emotionally attached to a guy and or take the responsibility to be their first. The only acceptable scenario for them is if the guy is extremely religious and is saving it for marriage. That or if the guy is chad.
Honestly though, people on this board care way too much about having sex or about their virginity as if that would fix their lives or make them feel better about themselves that they could fuck some random whore.
Just hire an escort or a hooker if you are so self concious about something as trivial as your virginity. All this is coming from a 20 year old kissless handholdless virgin who have never even been in a relationship of any kind before or experienced physical contact with a non relative girl. And guess what? I don't care because if someone is unwilling to accept that then they sluts who aren't worth my time. I also don't live in a country where you are shamed for your virginity.
>>25446801
>Why don't women just start pushing for guys to actually give a shit about getting them off too
Have you ever met a woman? They don't ask for shit until they're at their wits end and don't care about looking like a nagging bitch. She doesn't want to ask you to eat her out. She wants YOU to WANT to eat her out. No questions asked. No nagging.
You only want to eat pussy because you're desperate for human affection and attention so you'd literally like her shithole just so you're not alone on a Saturday night. She, and other women, can sense that desperation in you.
>Only if your going into da hood and offering to have sex
So only poor people kill girls? Elliot was a rich fucker. He was also dangerous.
>Who the hell are they agreeing to get naked with?
Earlier, a really nice and attentive guy. Later, a guy who was a little tipsy and realized this weak woman wouldn't be able to do anything if he just jammed it in. Do you have the same concerns during sex? Your role isn't to get penetrated. You have a distinct advantage as the digger of the hole, and not the dirt getting ripped apart.
>someone might film them and expose them
Would you like your parents to see a video of you fucking some old fat black guy? How about your boss?
>Then tell him to fuck off
This is the guy you trusted enough to expose yourself to. This is the guy you've secretly desired for weeks. The guy who's finally going to be intimate with you privately. Feels like I'm replying to a 15 year old with shitposting like "just tell him to fuck off!". That doesn't undo the hurt. That doesn't make anything better.
"I just want bareback pussy!"
>if it's not old and decrepit
Always a stipulation. It's never I just want a hole to fuck. It's I want a hole that's attached to an attractive enough woman to get my dick hard enough to ejaculate.
What you really want, deep down, is validation that your dick is worth fucking--and by association YOU are worth fucking.
>>25446285
The world had a meeting, and we all agreed that the US has the worst women in the world.
>>25447136
>What you really want, deep down, is validation that your dick is worth fucking--and by association YOU are worth fucking.
Not him but yeah you just summed up this whole board. Not sure why a lot of people care about this but whatever. That's the least i care about.
>>25447136
>Have you ever met a woman? They don't ask for shit until they're at their wits end and don't care about looking like a nagging bitch. She doesn't want to ask you to eat her out, she wants YOU to WANT to eat her out. No questions asked. No nagging.
With 1 paragraph you just explained everything wrong with the female psychology, congrats.
>>25447136
Before I go into go into your above points I wanna say that I get the feeling your an actual girl, secondly
>Always a stipulation. It's never I just want a hole to fuck. It's I want a hole that's attached to an attractive enough woman to get my dick hard enough to ejaculate.
>What you really want, deep down, is validation that your dick is worth fucking--and by association YOU are worth fucking.
No dipshit by old and decrepit I meant like elderly like it is physiologically incapable of getting wet, of stretching, or having any of the positive features that a normal vagina has.
Everything has an expiration date, even a pussy does.
No I dont care about stupid validation
I want to know how a pussy feels, raw, wet, tight, hot, soft pussy feels WITH NO CONDOM against my dick.
I don't care what the rest of her body looks like so long as her pussy is healthy and capable of doing that.
Now for your other shit.
>Have you ever met a woman? They don't ask for shit until they're at their wits end and don't care about looking like a nagging bitch. She doesn't want to ask you to eat her out. She wants YOU to WANT to eat her out. No questions asked. No nagging.
Well I'm willing to do it by default but unfortanately most guys aren't so they need to be more assertive about what they want, its only fair
I would not eat her asshole unless it had an enema and was 100% free of all shit
Elliot was an extremely rare exception and he killed BECAUSE he wasnt getting sex, if some girl was about to have sex with him he would have been ecstatic
>Earlier, a really nice and attentive guy. Later, a guy who was a little tipsy and realized this weak woman wouldn't be able to do anything if he just jammed it in. Do you have the same concerns during sex? Your role isn't to get penetrated. You have a distinct advantage as the digger of the hole, and not the dirt getting ripped apart.
(cont.)
>>25447136
tl;dr a roastie plays mental gymnastics
>>25447136
>Who the hell are they agreeing to get naked with?
>Earlier, a really nice and attentive guy.
nice job, what was wrong with the first guy sloppy-roastie joe sandwich?
>>25447136
>>25447412
(cont.)
I guess you have to be smarter about your guys, as a fail safe you could aways bring lube, I dont really know what else to say about that one
>Would you like your parents to see a video of you fucking some old fat black guy? How about your boss?
What? Im not a faggot and if my boss is cool enough to wanna fuck then why not lol
But if your a girl and your willing to have sex with that black guy then whats there to be ashamed of?
>trusted enough to expose yourself too
I'm wiling to expose myself to any girl if it means she will have sex with me, no trust needed, whats "trust" for? Whats she gonna do to me other than say no sex?
>secretely desired
I secretely desire the majority of females on the planet
>The guy who's finally going to be intimate with you privately.
You make it sound like its some emotional mushy gushy shit and not just sex
>That doesn't undo the hurt.
If the bastard DOESNT wanna get laid then thats his loss and he can eat a dick
So thats that see this too reading this is mandatory >>25447412
>>25447412
>>25447412
>
I want to know how a pussy feels, raw, wet, tight, hot, soft pussy feels WITH NO CONDOM against my dick.
Then hire a damn hooker or escort and get a note from your doctor that says you are STD free and you'll can find ones that will let you.
>>25447526
I've been told by anons that escorts, never ever under any circumstances do it without a condom unless you've privately contracted them out for months on end with 1000s of dollars, something only very wealthy people can afford to do
Apparently some of them are so paranoid about it that they will check the condoms for holes, put them on you themself, and sometimes even hold onto the base of the condom itself during sex
>>25446499
>Not some old stinky landwhale girl, or some 7 year old. Because neither of those are attractive.
Speak for yourself
>>25445516
It's an intrinsic instinctual view of sex that has been true to every civilization on earth.
You will never get rid of it.
>>25447388
According to that paragraph I should be dating a mother, since they don't mind "nagging" people.
>>25447412
I'm not a girl. Just a 28 year old guy who's seen every whining-about-women thread since r9k 1.0
I don't get your desire for pussy. I guess it's all fine and good for you to say you want it. But like a woman, you don't just "want pussy". You want a woman to want to give you pussy. But not just any woman. You could fuck the ugliest women on dating sites that not even the most desperate men go after. Do you really want that, though?
I found one for you!
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=93351133
Mmm, she looks healthy! She's not old and decrepit! And you don't care that she's fat, right? Surely you can find something closer to you.
>>25447490
You read what I posted wrongly. The implication was that he, like many men, act a certain way to get in bed with a woman. THEY ACT like a nice and attentive guy. A guy who gives to charity and likes helping old ladies cross the street...until they've got what they wanted and showcase themselves as what women call "asshole fuckboys" in that they pump and dump you after they put in the act and lie their way into the girl's pants.
TLDR; it's the same guy.
ITT: virgins display their ignoran... knowledge of women
>>25447902
>all this talk about validation and shit
I don't understand whats so inconceivable to you about just wanting to know what pussy is like and nothing more
Also she's from NC so that's too far away, and girls like that are rare and often times are scams.
>fuckboys
Yeah I've seen that insult going around a whole lot lately, what the hell does it even mean?
Apparently its like the equivalent of calling a girl a cunt, except its directed at a guy
>oh hurdur, I lied to have sex so I'm the devil incarnate
If girls would actually be fucking willing to have sex and cut all this shit out >>25446499
then one of that would be necessary.
And I wouldn't include the "dump" part of that, I would stick with them because I had finally found a source of sex.
I'm still learning how to fake it well enough for them to be willing to have sex with me but I've already had my own brother call me a fuck boy so I guess I'm already one in spirit, just gotta finish becoming one in practice
>>25448037
Are you fucking serious?
There's ugly fat whales ALL OVER pof. ANY CITY. ANY STATE.
Also, I literally described what a fuckboy was in the last post. Scroll up. Last time I reply to this idiot who can't read.
>>25448113
God fuck you your so pretentious and you care more about what the god damn girls want then what your fellow guys want
And I wanted an elaboration on it, a detailed explanation of it not just two sentences
And I wanted to know why its so bad
>>25444178
They don't wanna lose their time on faggots like you
>>25444259
Not the point.
>There will be no assertive gentle female to take his virginity and get him to come out of his shell
This exact situation happened to me though, twice actually. I just turned both girls down because my standards are too high. They both knew I was a virgin and both wanted to take my virginity. Just because you guys are shitty people and happen to be virgins because of it doesn't mean all virgins are shitty people that no woman wants to fuck.
