Who here got a pay raise today? $10 an hour, feels good man
Been working the same job for 2 years, now making less than I have for the first 1 1/2 FeelsBadMan
Activate rent increase in 3, 2....
>live in Canada
>make 24.71 an hour with no degree or experience
>maximum kek
>>25426274
You know the price of goods will just increase as a result right? The min wage is Australia is like $17/hr and everything costs a fortune.
>>25426274
>live in Canada
>first job when I was a teen with no experience or qualifications 18.75/hour hauling barrels of concrete
>laughing eternally
>>25426473
>compared comfy Canada to corporate America
Fuck of you privileged man.
>>25426274
neat. $20,870/yr assuming an FT hourly job and no overtime.
that would be $20487 after EITC assuming you are a single male gainfully employed with no other reasonable deductions or dependents. since the taxable income is over the poverty line (by about $9000), you aren't given an adjusted tax bracket.
so the feds, over the course of the year will withhold about 15% of your wage, which is a bit over $3,000, leaving you with $17,470.
then CA state tax withholds about 2% more of the $13426 that's taxable ($4k is the standard deduction for single filers), so that's another $268 off the top.
then theres standard withholding for OASIS, UICT, MedicAid, which total about $1k over the course of a year. that leaves $16,202
now tack on renting a room for $500/mo, leaving $10,202 left.
let's say you have cheap transportation for $1000 a year (public transport, car pool, a motorcycle or completely paid off cheap car), that leaves $9,202
now add in fixed costs like heating, electricity, maybe a phone of some sort for $1500 a year altogether. that's $7,702 left.
add in food for a year, say $1000, leaving $6,702 left.
do you save stuff for a rainy day? $3000 over a year is good for emergency money, so your fun money is $3,702.
how about things like medical/dental/life insurance? say $1000 a year for all of it.
at the end from that $10/hr wage you get $2,702 to spend on whatever you want.
>>25426788
>CA
>$500 rent
I wish.
>>25426726
We got it lucky sometimes
>>25426903
for a single room somewhere in the east bay? it's certainly possible.
>>25426903
well, shitty apartments in union city or something are $20k a year by themselves.
if you live in someplace like fresno or marysville or lodi you can have an apartment for $1200/mo
basically if you are minimum wage in CA and living on your own and have any desire for savings/investments/comforts then you're working back to back two jobs.
>minimum wage increases
>labor costs more
>businesses are forced to charge more for products to compensate
>things cost more
>value of dollar decreases again
Not like a wageslave would understand this.
>>25426726
Why are there barrels of concrete
>>25426274
You do realize the higher minimum wage rises, the higher the cost of living will be for that state.
I mean California already had a high cost of living compared to other states and now it will be even higher, enjoy paying more rent for apartments and more for food and what not.
I bet a gallon of milk is like $7 or some shit in California, in Texas we pay like $3.50 or some shit for a gallon, granted our minimum wage is only $7.50.
It's a trade off OP, you'll be making more per hour but everything around you will cost more as well so it all balances out.
It's economics 101
>>25426274
Woooooooooooo more money to tax + inflated prices to compensate for the drones of wage increased = you're fucking making less money now
Good job wagecucks you not only ruined it for yourselves but for everyone else
>>25427119
Beer in California is super cheap and that's what counts. But it makes me think why politicians tax the fuck out of everything yet alcohol is cheaper that water.
Makes me think democrats still think of us as slaves to be honest.
>>25426473
Daily reminder that the Canadian dollar isn't worth as much as a US dollar.
>>25427025
You fell for the 'corporations aren't already grossly underpaying people for labor and already have ridiculously marked up prices' meme. Jesus..
>>25427025
yeah, no. you have too simplistic a view on how business works. wage increases typically grow a business as it's an investment in the spending power of the local workforce - spending power that is spent to buy products.
it varies greatly by market sector, and spending that money somewhere that isn't local is what would "hurt" a business by losing the opportunity cost for more customers in the market looking to buy. in times of uncertainly - where wages are poor, spending is suppressed due to fears of instability and inability to cover essential expenses. with higher wages, people are less stressed and more likely to spend.
additionally, historical data for wages and market spending (since 1933 i believe) show largely little correlation between the earning wage of an employee and the success of a business with a solid strategy for their products.
>>25427157
The day will come when every last millennial will do the math and realize that their world where everything is paid for by the 1% and everyone s happy is too good to be true. I fear that time will come too late.
>>25426274
I make $33 bucks an hour, get some fucking skills anon.
>>25426689
Minimum wage workers are only 5% of the total workforce, all that will happen is fast food chains will hire one less worker and make everyone work a little bit harder.
>>25427119
You could just as easily say that higher wages will make everything cheaper and more abundant because company management will have to reduce their expenses and optimize themselves to serve the greater demand and greater options for the proles.
Economics is a flawed model based on a very crude, very silly representation of reality that assumes everyone has perfect information, is perfectly rational, is perfectly responsive, and takes advantage of every opportunity. And it sloughs all that requirement for superhuman ability onto the people doing the actual work all day i.e. wageslaves.
It's mystical voodoo always interpreted and calibrated to fuck the wageslave. That's why you should join a union.
>>25427203
I'm not sure if you understand what a minimum wage is.
>>25426788
Nigger my rent is $2500/month in california.
>>25426966
>>25426993
Union city resident here, I pay $2600 a month for a 2 bedroom
>>25426274
>tfw I made $11/hr before
>tfw I still do.
>>25427203
>>25427253
How is it possible for people to spend so much thought in a post but not understand basic economics?
People do not hide money in their mattress.
>>25426689
>what is negative gearing
>what is fucking corrupt government
>what is
>>25427271
How do you make money?
>tfw almost 30, still living with my parents, and moving out is not even in sight.
>>25427320
>yfw there's a Democrat in the White House
>yfw he passes executive orders because he can't convince congress that his ideas aren't silly
>>25427119
Milk is only ~$4/gallon dude, chill out. Although I do dislike the "livable wage" meme
How could any reasonable person expect to be able to feed their family with a no-skill minimum wage job in one of the most expensive places in the world? I don't think even a $15 minimum wage would satisfy some of these people. In Los Angeles you need to live a glamorous life with all the luxuries or else you're a nobody. Everyone has an iPhone, everyone has flat screen TVs, everyone goes to sporting events and buys expensive shit all the time. I enjoy fancy stuff but living needs to be a priority. I'm not going to live month to month just so I can have a new smartphone every year
I'm never moving out of my parent's house. Not until I'm at least 26 or I can move out of state to someplace cheaper. It's just a waste of money otherwise
>>25427319
Uhhh... what? That's exactly what companies and banks do. They hoard money and sit on it. They don't "create jobs" with it.
Reminder that when companies had free reign they worked people 16 hours to death in coal mines and didn't even pay real money. They paid you Disney Land money that you could only spend at the Company Store.
If you earn money from wages, the capitalists want to fuck you. So own a business OR join a union, but realize you are antagonistic forces.
"Labor advocacy" or "theory" from the right is just a big ruse to fuck you out of money if you work for a paycheck.
>>25427347
I'm a sysadmin, I make 100k
>>25427354
>mfw the difference between Democrat and Republican is nonexistent except in name
>mfw the USA is also shitty
>mfw i didn't post a face :^)
>>25427392
GET OUT NORMIE!!! JUST!
GET!
OUT!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
>>25427423
>being a sysadmin is normalshit
Ok bro
>>25427387
That's propaganda you fucking low-skill worker.
>>25427354
>duh ebil liberals are destroying america, vote republican
>republicans now control the house and senate (and also 31 state governments)
>nothing changes
OP again. What a lot of you fail to realize is that we're finally starting to catch up to where wages should be. In the 1960s minimum wage was the modern day equivalent of $10 / hour. A $10 min wage is nothing revolutionary, if Reagan and the boomers hadn't fucked up the economy so badly min wage would probably have risen significantly higher than $10 / hour.
>>25427203
>with higher wages people are less stressed and more likely to spend.
where is this money supposed to come from? Do they just print up the extra dough in their basements to pay their employees?
No, the government will have to increase money supply in circulation if they don't want an increase in unemployment or for production to decrease.
WIth increase in money supply, aggregate demand increases, which then increases the price of goods (aka inflation). So yes, prices will go up.
By default, with more money in circulation, you will have higher prices
>>25427433
I know a few people from high school that went into IS and IT. They were SERIOUSLY normal. You have to have some serious social skills to get any sort of office job these days.
>>25427319
>>25427288
>>25427271
>i am retarded and cannot read
renting a room. a fucking spare bedroom or something, is easily possible under $1k in california's east bay.
>>25426473
>live in Australia
>make 32.33 an hour with no degree or experience
>maximum kek
>>25427515
Yeah, but hiding money in a mattress you don't own is kind of dumb.
>>25426473
>>25427534
>be non-american
>have to pay $10/gallon and 5$/bigmac
>>25427494
Someone literally insinuated that businessmen hide money in their mattress. Neither you nor I have any business in this thread.
>>25426689
ummmm nope. commodity prices are determined on a global market. things cost what they cost based on materials, inputs, and transport. competition forces prices as low as possible. what you're talking about would necessitate collusion, only possible in a few markets large enough that you could simply shop OUTSIDE the city from the same brand.
tldr ur dum
>>25427746
They're going to have to pay the truck driver too you know.
>>25427611
>be American
>go to see new batman movie
>get shot
>>25427746
>inputs
an employee's wage is a part of the cost of doing business - it's factored into the cost of the product and directly impacts the ability of a business to derive revenue, and thusly profit, from the sale of that product.
a business that arbitrarily increased employee wages that also exists in a highly competitive market will fail because other businsses will offer the same product for cheaper and gain market share.
it's a choice to be competitive or to be marginalized. some companies can spin their small market into a niche where their high employee wages and their product are built not directly from the product but on the brand, on the customer's willingness to pay the higher price for the perception of higher quality or greater value. you see this in many luxury goods for example, but also in many service-oriented industries.
>>25427651
Quote? I need to screen cap it.
>>25426274
but the quarters in that graph are only in stacks of $3, $5.50 and $6.50.
Lol. Getting 178,04 $ per month, enjoy my 3r world.
>>25427879
It was a frogpost that referenced the Company Store, you can't miss it.
>>25427865
He literally used the word collusion in a post that implied that wage has no effect in cost. You do not need to put so much effort into replying to him.
>>25427908
on mobile, no pics for faster load times, thanks!
also holy shit, since when isn't it a better idea for the company to fucking fire the moron paying above market wages and hire a manager that can pay just enough to retain people, but not one cent more to remain competitive and return the best profit for investors?
maybe he thinks employees can't invest in anything and have to live on a paycheck alone?
>>25427497
What the fuck are you talking about? I just run into the datacenter and hide from users.
>>25427923
i like replying... i'm lonely :(
>>25427515
Why would you fucking just rent a room like some sort of poor person?
>>25427534
But that's australian dollars which are basically worthless.
>>25427995
because someone that makes $20k a year can't afford an apartment in most places around the bay solo.
>>25428004
Why don't they get higher paying jobs?
I made 10 bucks an hour when I lived in stockton and within 2 years of moving to the bay area I am now making 34 dollars an hour, people fucking throw money at you here.
>>25428033
How the hell do you make $34.hour?
I live in oc and have never made more than $15/hour.
>>25428033
sure, lemme just pull a higher paying job out of my ass. i'll put it beside the rare pepes and girlfriends i stacked to heaven as i build a ladder to normalcy.
not saying that "get a better job" isn't possible, but if you're making minimum wage in CA in an expensive area it is incredibly hard to keep money you have in order to increase your purchasing power. you either must be desired and valuable to hiring companies and for people that aren't desirable for whatever reason, are poor now and will remain poor.
>>25428070
I went into IT (with no experience).
Shit is fucking easy, I just browse the internet for 7 hours, spend 30 minutes googling answers to helpdesk tickets and 30 minutes bullshitting with other people.
>people need to suffer for my low prices
>>25428033
Anon, sometimes for some people, that just isn't possible or likely for a lot of reasons ranging from opportunity to skills. I'm in the East Bay doing the salary gig at $92,200/yr and it's still going up thanks to biannual raises.
>>25428088
Sounds like you got a pass from a normie hiring manager because he was your friend or something.
>>25428085
>Sign up to pluralsight
>Spend 15 dollarydoos a month
>Get 1 cert for the cost of 200 bucks
>Qualify for IT job making 25 bucks an hour
>Make your money back withing 8 hours of working
>>25428093
>I deserve more money for my unskilled labor
>>25428106
He was a really fat guy that just watched tv all day and drove a cart around he even smelled.
there's an awful lot of east bay fags in this thread.
btw why do people on 880 drive like they're trying to kill you? No other freeway in the bay area is like this.
>>25428116
>people dont deserve to put a roof over their head
fuck you
>>25428156
>people who work hard should be expected to provide for those who don't
>>25428144
i take 680, i wouldn't know. just pop on some bignic, and cruise to walnut creek at 80 mph.
>>25428144
also i would bet you these east fugs are all IT in some capacity.
i'm $162k/yr as a systems engineer (defense industry).
>>25428176
fuck you and fuck off you jew cocksucker
>>25428088
same
i made 9.75 an hour then randomly applied to a bunch of IT helpdesk jobs and now make 21.something after tax by moving to a tech city
IT is a natural robot industry, most of my peers are socially retarded. they have normies manage us all
if the right told you to jump off a cliff would you do it?
would you sacrifice yourselves for your lords and masters?
>>25428313
No, but you seem awfully quick to apologize for slavery despite still voting for the party that created it.
>>25428259
Yeah seriously, I just applied a bunch of times to one of those IT contractor companies and they finally hired me for a desktop support job, in which I was supposed to follow a step by step instruction they gave me following a move.
Literally didn't have to even think for myself.
>>25428369
for me they just had me shadow a regular employee for a couple weeks
i never think for myself i just go through the same process every time. it feels dehumanizing that im just a medium between computers. i miss being neet
>>25428483
Move up to sysadmin, you get to do a lot of thinking for yourself.
Can't wait to pay $7 for a regularass burger
I remember we when taco bell had a $2 dollar meal deal
They had a 30/60/90 cent menu
The shit that used to cost 30 cents now costs $1.29
Thanks faggots
I literally have no reason to eat anywhere but chipotle or Carl's Jr
Anything I get will most likely add up to $7ish so I might as well go get one really good thing from the two aforementioned places.
>>25428615
>being a fast food aficionado.
I live in B.C. and minimum wage increased here recently to 10.50 or 11 bucks an hour. No prices increased anywhere.
I wish people would stop thinking that's going to actually happen, because it doesn't.
>>25426689
Doesn't matter. The practical effect is to decrease the gap between the poorest and the richest, meaning that ultimately less wealth is in the hands of the richest.
>>25428687
AUS, US, UK, Germany, India, China, and most other countries have increased wages over the years and all prices have increased as well. Yours have too, you just aren't looking at the right time scale.
>>25426788
1000 dollars a year on food? Niggawhatchutalkinabout
>>25428761
The prices have been increasing here as well, only it started long before minimum wage increased
>>25428660
I used to eat fast-food twice a month up until 2013 to try and stop being skele
I had some breastfeeding issues as a kid and fucking starved myself until I was in college (felt physically and psychologically sick when full of food and most food tasted like shit to me anyways)
I started slowly working out and after half a decade I went from 125 at 5'10" to 170lb
I really don't like eating lots of food but I found fast food to take a longer time to fill me so I used that to gain weight
Fast food became wayy to fucking expensive and I refuse to pay more for shitty unhealthy food
>>25426274
i hope you realize the dollar number you get paid means nothing as the economy is based on relativity. expect to start noticing that you're paying about 5-10 cents more for basics like bread within the year; i wouldn't be surprised if you ended up in a worse situation financially than before. but hey, at least you can celebrate your ~*~big win~*~ against the man for the next week and a half :^)
It should be 15 but 10 is a good start.
>>25428176
>working hard correlates with money earned.
Literally capitalist myth.
>>25428866
I am a stocker at Walmart. I sell people shit as a backup cashier , direct retards to the location of items, put up store displays, and clean up retards' messes after the store closes.
On behalf of everyone everywhere, my job is not worth $15/hour.
Never will be. NEVER will be. I won't accept $15/hr for this fucking job. It feels wrong.
>>25427387
>That's exactly what companies and banks do. They hoard money and sit on it
No they don't you dumb frogposter, if only because they'd lose money if they did that. Reinvesting gives a return and reduces taxable income.
>>25429019
Which is why everyone in the US is now more financially stable, right?
Which is why americans are working longer, have less security and in the net(when considering housing costs) are earning less?
Which is why there is a wealth of new jobs being created which pay well?
Please, capitalism in the US is imploding and when enough people get tired of there is going to be a major political change.
>live in australia
>straight out of high school to a wagekek factory job
>$30p/h
>feels good man
>>25426788
Not bad at all. You get everything you need and spending cash on top of it.
>>25427995
>Why would you fucking just rent a room like some sort of poor person?
Because you are a poor person? You're supporting yourself on the absolute MINIMUM wage.
>>25426274
have fun with that increased cost of living, wagecuck.
after all, do you REALLY think the corporate will willingly lower their profits?
>>25429019
Yes, they reinvest it in financial instruments that offer 1200% APR payday loans to the starving wagingcucks so they can afford to repair their 1986 Ford Taurus and not get fired from their $7 Subway job.
School doesn't teach any of this, btw. People are deliberately conditioned into being retarded raw beef to be ground into burger by the capitalist machine.
>>25429371
>he actually gets payday loans
Are you retarded?
