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Who actually likes Undertale here, and why (not)? As one of the most peculiar games released this year (or quite some time even), I feel like we could have a good thread about it.

I personally like the innovative gameplay elements Toby put into the game, but that's just the technical aspect. I think he did an amazing job at creating a persistent story that makes you appreciate all the effort you've put into the game, even after starting a new playthrough.
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literally Tumblr: The Game
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I was going to respond seriously but then I noticed it was you Doj.
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We might be able to have a decent thread about it if you weren't such a white knighting tumblr tier faggot, Doj.
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>>25374583
the pic in op looks better than the actual game lmfao
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>>25374745
Have you tried, instead of instantly starting shitposting?

>>25374752
That's not a big achievement when a game is made in RPG Maker.
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>>25374703
So accurate
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>>25374793
dunno why you would play a game made in RPG maker just play final fantasy
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I didn't mind it, never finished it though.

I enjoyed the bullet hell battle mechanics, it was cool.

I thought the meme skeleton was pretty amusing.
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>>25374793

I have tried, and I've had loads of wonderful conversations with great anons and trips from this board.

You are not one I ever want to deal with beyond shitposting though. Go fuck yourself and find another "fembot" thread to whiteknight in.
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Story, gameplay, and music are some of the strongest things about Undertale. I actually had feelings during some of the endings.. That being said, I think the fanbase is pure autismo-cancer, and the graphics are pretty meh. I recommend playing it, but not getting involved with the fan base online.
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i regret buying it

i cannot stand that style of humor/writing, it does absolutely nothing for me.

and that's literally all the game is. the gameplay isn't even worth mentioning.
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>>25374793
Nah, if you'd like to have a serious discussion you could have simply posted the thread anonymously. I guess that's too hard for you though.
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>>25374583
>pixelshit
>homostuck
yeah nah m8, even as a furfag
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i'll stick to shovel knight and axiom verge for my nostalgia fix. i'm not sure a meme game has been this popular since portal
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>>25374583
I liked the atmosphere and the feeling of it, until I got to the lava cavern place. It all went downhill really quickly after that.
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It sucks. I wish I didn't spend 10 dollars on it.
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never played it. Don't really go on /v/ so I don't know much about it, don't care enough to look anywhere else.
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>>25374703
Remember when you could play a good original rpg without any bullshit media narrative being built around it?
Remember when you could complete a game feeling comfy and thinking of the nostalgia that you're probably going to have later in life?
Remember when these asswipes didn't try to ruin that comfy feeling by associating the game with feminism?
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>>25374948
That fucking lizard was the most annoying thing ever with her "status updates" every 10 seconds. I just stopped playing after that.
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It's very good, but massively overrated and for entirely the wrong reasons.

The characters are pretty flat, although they each get one or two good moments- but the game isn't about them. They're only obstacles, and they're standing in your way.

The deeper investigation of vidya, the "deconstruction" if you will of the classical RPG formula, went clear over everyone's head.
And the fan boss fights are way better.
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>>25375015
who grandia here
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>>25374583
>As one of the most peculiar games released this year (or quite some time even)
>innovative gameplay elements
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>>25374703
Greetings /v/.
Still underage?
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>>25374878
is there any good fanbase fuckface?
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>>25374583
Good game, fandom turned it to shit, as said before, Tumblr: The Game
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Everyone who cries that it's too Tumblrtier is talking solely about the fandom. There's nothing specifically politically charged in it to start with.
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>>25375171
You see, its about being associated with those Tumblrinas that ruins it.
Its great and all, nice little piece of work out of RPG maker.
But the whole stigma of my steam m8's thinking I'm down with those freaks makes me regret the buy.
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everything about this game annoys me. all the writing and jokes make me physically recoil.
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>>25374583
Why play that when you can play Lisa?
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What would anons think of undertale if it had been made by anons similar to katawa shoujo?
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>>25375222
Nice trips but giving a fuck about what your shitty friends think about what you enjoy is kind of embarrassing to start with senpai.
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>>25375222
>caring about steam friends opinions
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Who gives a shit about a game's fucking fanbase. Every game I've ever played has a retarded fucking fanbase. They're video games ffs. Why do people care so much about what others think?

Anyway, just started playing this game today, wanted to see what the hype was all about. It's ok. I like the story and humor a bit, I don't enjoy the bullet hell shit though. Maybe I haven't played bullet hell in so long but some of these attacks are damn near impossible to dodge, then I'm sitting there trying to figure out how to Spare everyone. Time consuming. I'm thinking about just killing everyone from now on just to see how the game ends.
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I have it and tried playing it a bit. I'm a few save points in and just can't bring myself to become interested. I'm consoling crying creatures and talking to frogs, and dealing with some benevolent goat creature on my phone. It just seems boring, and pointless. One day I'm sure I'll be all like "THE TIME IS NOW" and play it... who knows when that'll be tho. It's just got a boring vibe. I'd rather play Animal Crossing.
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>>25375222
so you are just a sheeple?
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>>25374583
I liked it, but the humor and characters were honestly pretty shit. I just thought that it had incredible attention to detail and was really well thought out.
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>>25375330
because it is r9k, people are very self-conscious
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This is undertale's fan base

http://ask-humantale.tumblr.com
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>>25375370
Yeah it's better if you want to see how it turns out I think, if you go in already disliking the characters it'll be a hard sell

>>25375399
Can you give me an example of a game with better humor? I'll agree some of the characters are pretty flat but I think a lot of the time it's very good at being funny
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>>25375408
>tfw self conscious but no friends
Absolute freedom!
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>>25375447
Destroy all Humans
Sam & Max
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>>25375433

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT ANY OF THAT SHIT MEANS

JESUS CHRIST CAN THEY EVEN BE MORE SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE?

Which one do you think is Doj?
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>>25375433
Kek, I honestly think this was made by someone trying to seem like as much of a tumblrina to make the game look bad. But if you hate things because other people like them who's the retard
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THE GAME IS FUCKING STUPID BECAUSE IT IS JUST RESKINNED EARTHBOUND AND PEOPLE ARE ACTING LIKE ITS A NEW CONCEPT
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>>25375433
>every fan of Undertale is one super autistic person

Le
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>>25374803
Thanks, now I don't want to play it as much.
Here's the full article from the faggot who wrote it
http://www.gameskinny.com/2oxox/undertales-crazy-success-proves-gamers-are-ready-for-feminism-queer-romance-and-progressive-values
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>>25375433
That's the most confusing thing I've ever read. I love how they had to take the husband and wife who had a kid together and spin it into some crazy trans shit - like having one straight couple would have ruined it.
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>>25375433
>Islamic MtF Toriel impregnated (the only white person besides Chara) FtM Asgore

What the fuck am I reading?
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>>25375433
Am I the only picturing that Asgore rapes them a lot?
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>>25375433
typical putting words into one's mouth shit, thank you for putting in all those very imaginative terms on the picture so we can all hate on the sjw!

>>25375475
>>25375520

fucking gullible, check out the original image, it is just a image, then some faggot needs to shit on the fanbase as bad as it already is
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>>25375520
>>25375485
>>25375433

Oh man. I actually went there and saw this shit. Do we get blamed for literally everything these days that people don't like?
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>>25375550
some people who wanna double troll you
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>>25375573
>tfw gross person
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>>25375556
If Asgore is a transman, FtM, he's not raping anyone with his unfunctioning, limp, stuffed-sausage fake dick.

>>25375587
D-death of the author
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>>25375222
someone's a swallower
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>>25375573
that pic's text is added to fit the sjw hatedom though, it isn't in the original pic
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>>25375433
Why they all gotta be brown?
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>>25375433
I wonder if there is rule 34 of this
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>>25374583
It's a pretty fun and unique game and it feels like a lot of heart was put into it. A lot of people complain about the fans but it is no where near as bad as they say it is, they treat it like it's worse than the SU fambase but in actuality it's millions of times better. It's literally just memes, a handful of edgy children/man/womanchildren, and a pretty large group of reasonable people. Sure, it has a few bad apples, but you don't have to partake in the community to enjoy the game. At the very least it's not full of raging SJW-types.

and typically, in any case, those SJW-types you see are just trolls
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>>25375588

You may be gross but you aren't a tumblrina.

And you got sick double dubs. Good for you.
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>>25375433
Who is supposed to fuck who?
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>>25375504
>implying Toby wanted any of this
https://twitter.com/FwugRadiation/status/644900627907280896
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>>25375433
this is like saying all christians are like the westboro baptist church.
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>>25375433
What the fuck... Seriously?
I cringed hard at that shit.
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>>25375471
>destroy all humans is funny
are you 12?
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wew lad

this post is the most orginial post on this board
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>>25375433
>>25375475
>>25375497
>>25375520
>>25375550
Fucking newfags, think shit through before you post
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>>25375715
What are you even trying to say quoting four responses and saying "THINK ABOUT IT DUMMY!"?
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>>25375715
>Still using the term newfag in almost 2016

Looks like your the newfag
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>>25375667

That poor man. He just wanted to make a cool game.

>probably his face when he sees any current discussion about it
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>>25375694
>canonically trans or binary
Canon according to whom?
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>>25375747
>That poor man.
Dude made buckets of money off it, I know I wouldn't care.
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>>25375747
He actually anticipated all of the current fanbase to happen.
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>>25375715
Regardless of whether or not the text itself is a troll, someone still drew that picture and that picture is still baffling as fuck. It's not like I'm saying all fans of the game are like that, but that picture still made me raise an eyebrow.
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>>25375433
mfw reading that
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>>25375816
anon, you have had your first impression with the text on, now your view towards the pic itself is biased even if you try to see it as stand alone
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ITT: butthurt undertale fans under damage control
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It was prettu fun.
Pretty impressive, considering the fact it was allegedly made in gamemaker.
I like the fighting mechanics.
Can't beat undyne the undying on the genocide route because I suck at games or something.
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>tfw met Toby Fox once irl

He's bretty cute.
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>>25375433
If something exists, Tumblr probably fucked it up already
But not all the fanbase is bad
Some make good, just slightly autistic, fanart and greens
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It's a great game, but i think it's certainly less than the hype, and all the fanart and Oc is overwhelmingly porn.

Favorite indie game remains Cave Story desu
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>>25375880
Rocking the kid in dad's suit look.
Should eat more.
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>>25375895
one who is autistic sees everything as autistic
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>>25375875
It was likely made in gamemaker, it can do that. Hotline Miami was made in gamemaker.

I have to say it's just fucking Mother 3 with bad writing and sprites though, there was nothing innovative about it. Don't forget Mother 3 came out in 2006.
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>>25375931
it is more than mother 3
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>I cant enjoy something because autists use it
then why are you on 4chan?
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>>25375953
No it's not. Don't be silly. The creator couldn't even resist using similar names.

>Earthbound
>Undertale
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>>25376050
far-fetched

knotbound would be closer to earthbound than undertale
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>>25376099
pham
any rpg with likable characters is earthbound

ok asriel's asspull ending was ripped straight from mother 3 but thats about it
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>>25375853
Are you the person who drew this or something? Because I wouldn't have liked this even without the text - the art style is boring and generic, and the colors are awful. Is just a wash of dark brown - and this isn't a grievance at them all being black, just the tones are boring and nothing pops.
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>>25376151
>>25376099
>>25376050
>>25375931

The guy grew up playing Earthbound and has spent his adulthood surrounded by content inspired by Earthbound and other J-RPGs. Of course it's gonna be like Earthbound.
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>>25374803
HOW
this pisses me off so much i loved the game and not once did any of that bullshit come to mind fuck these desperate ass authors
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>>25376159
It is okay
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>>25376099
Undertale is basically a giant homage to the Earthbound, every single line is written the same exact way as the Mother/Earthbound games.

>Lab designed exactly the same with Cave of the Past color scheme.
>End bedroom is Ness's room.
>Final boss battle is the same as Earthbound's final boss battle, Giygas. Even how you defeat the boss is the same.
>Striped shirt main character.
>Manipulating time antagonist.

>>25376188
It wasn't "like Earthbound", he might have just ripped off the whole game.
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>>25376188
being inspired by earthbound and being an earthbound ripoff are two very different things
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>>25376188
ye but it is not like like
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>>25376159
>>25375853
>>25376202

familia mia I'm an illustrator and I can tell you it sucks.
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>>25374583
am i supposed to be turned on by that chara?

because i am
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>>25376207
>let's completely disregard the differences!
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>>25376223
do you do lewds?
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>>25376207
>Lab designed exactly the same with Cave of the Past color scheme.
tru
>End bedroom is Ness's room.
what rpg doesnt have the protagonist's room?
>Final boss battle is the same as Earthbound's final boss battle, Giygas. Even how you defeat the boss is the same.
tru
>>Manipulating time antagonist.
lots of games have time travel
>>Striped shirt main character
anon, please
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>>25376269
Doesn't forget that you can pretty much cut and paste every single line out of Earthbound into Undertale and you wouldn't really notice any difference.
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>>25376269
you have like 4 different final bosses though, depending on how you play the game
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>>25376263
yes, albeit rarely bc >muh depression
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>>25374583
I really fucking enjoyed it, very few things cause me to laugh out loud when by myself and Undertale was one of them.
Even those corny dad-tier puns got to me.
The story was pretty damn good too.
Why the fuck do people feel the need to go full sanic mode when it comes to fandoms nowadays?
I mean look at the Steven Universe and MLP fandoms for christ's sake.
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>>25376308
you could have drawn a bulge in the crotch and it would still feel appropriate
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>>25376294
I could swap your mum for a soar and you wouldn't really notice any difference
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>>25375274
Lisa is basically pic related for indie hipsters.
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>>25376321
ok

this post is original
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>>25376306
You're right
But the true ending is pretty much directly from mother 3 and earthbound
and we never got to really know asriel until like 10 minutes before the game ended
I still dont think as a whole it is a ripoff, but that part was really really bad
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>>25376356
good work!

how long do you do it?
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>>25376379
yeah, you will have to replay to learn about asriel
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>>25375895
Should have used this better picture.
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>>25376387
illustrate? that probably took no more than thirty minutes which is why it's really shitty. i'd like to have some nicer lewd stuff done but i don't really devote a lot of energy into scribbly things like that to start with. i don't want a potential illustration career to get tanked because they found my Weird Porn.
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you're a bad person unless you support that "Asriel" fellow
:^)
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I like it because it lets me kill a bunch of whiny fags.
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Terrible art style, terrible plot, terrible game play, utterly insufferable fanbase, literally tumblr: the game, furfag shit.
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>>25376507
what do you do as an illustrator?

also on a scale of 0-10, how hard is it for a professional artist to draw professional stuff in one style and lewd stuff in another style?
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>>25375931
>implying mother 3 didn't suck
Muh innovations
Muh growing up
Muh twist turn endings
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>>25376602
i'm taking a break from school due to money but i want to go into editorial work in the future.

i'm not really sure, i've never tried. i'm sure i couldn't fake another style if i did try though.
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>>25376596
Not to mention the fact that it's completely unfunny and tries way too hard to be comedic.
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>>25376843
good luck with the editorial work in the future!
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I thought it was just overhyped
It was shoved down my throat by so many people toting it as the best game in history that I just started throwing those opinions away

Also, I bought it, some dude spoiled the endings for me as soon as I booted it up, and I promptly uninstalled and got a refund and never touched anything undertale again.

The end
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isnt undertale some sjw shithole of a game?

like if toronto could become a game with a little less indians?

why would i pay money for that

by buying the game you are L I T E R A L L Y supporting some sjw numale feminist faggot

id rather play darksouls 2 thanks
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>>25375015
I'm just mad when people associate video games with any movement
Now it's either:
>muh feminism
>muh sticking it to feminism
>muh competitive circlejerk
>muh nostalgia
or everyone's favorite
>muh franchise

I can't think of a single game that came out in the past five years that doesn't try to cater to one of these.Triple A releases don't count because they're all cash grabs now.
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>>25376883
thanks senpai! it really means a lot.
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>>25375330
>he's too stupid to do a pacifist run
oh boy.
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>>25377019
Hatred was maybe an exception
But the goobergators made sure to champion it as their free speech game so I guess it ended up being #2 even though the devs never intended it to be
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>>25376984
do you live in some sort of rape fantasy where the rapist are sjw
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>>25374793
The game is not made in RPG maker, it's made in Gamemaker Studio which is far more flexible.
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>>25377176
please go back to tumblr or reddit

>do you live in some sort of rape fantasy where the rapist are sjw
yes, its called real life where everyone is a sjw leftie refugee-taking nigger cum drinker, or otherwise they are branded as a new hitler who killed 100 babies on his way to take a shit

i dont ever ever ever ever not in a million niggerwats EVER want to hear the word "pansexual" or "demisexual" EVER when i play a videogame
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I watched a playthrough on youtube after seeing the sans ending and liking it

the emphasis on not killing anyone seems fun initially, but I can see how after a while it could get repetitive. The pacifist ending seemed heavy handed with the friendship is magic themes

I don't understand why flowey would be a boss in two endings as different characters. Sure, there's a reason why. But it seems pretty contrived and silly in retrospect
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>>25376984
>I'd rather play bad monster hunter
Suit yourself.

>>25377242
The more you know.
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tumblr memeshit
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>>25377303
>tripfag speaking

honestly how does 4chan allow tripfags to post, this place is so fucking dead

PLEASE killyourself
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undertale had a good depiction of death
most games depict death by and large as "dying" - there's leadup to it, the death event happens, it's climactic, some mourning maybe, etc, etc
death in undertale is just absence
you killed someone, that area is now empty, there is an NPC-sized hole in the content progression for that zone
pretty simple design choice but it's true to life and really got to me, even if idgaf about most of the other shit
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I loved it. The emotions I felt while playing it brought back memories of what it was like to play games when I was a kid. I very much doubt any other game is going to come out anytime soon that made me feel the way Undertale made me felt while playing through it.
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Before I played it, I'd thought that I'd hate it. Ended up loving it and getting attached to the characters. I can't bring myself to do a genocide run.

That being said, the fandom annoys the shit out of me.
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>>25374583
I watched several LPs of this game. I couldn't finish Earthbound because I always get bored of JRPGs no matter how good they are, but from what I played of Earthbound I can see why it's praised so much. Many people compared Undertale to Earthbound, but I failed to see the resemblance, maybe it's because I played too little of Earthbound, maybe it's because I saw too little of Undertale, who knows.

The whole game looks like shit, which bothered me a lot. The art style contradicted itself way too much for me. Some stuff is black and white, some stuff is fully colored, but the way it was brought together looked inconsistent. Parts of the game look like Off! in terms of style, parts look like shit (I have the first dungeon in mind when typing this), my point is, it's inconsistent and looks bad.

The gameplay has a fun gimmick, but it looked like something that'd belong in a flash game considering how shallow it was. Then again, that could be said about a lot of games.

The plot was gay.

Overall, I'm complaining about games I've never played once again.
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Incredibly pretentious and annoying garbage. Had a friend get noticeably upset with me because I told him I wasn't interested in playing anymore after an hour of trying on his recommendation.

Mostly tired of hearing about how he's on his 6th run but it's le "so hard to do a genocide play through cuz he's become attached to the incredible cast of hiarious, relatable characters xD!!1"

How you could muster up the attention span to sift through the sea of mundane, dry, gimmicky flavor of the month meme crap more than once is beyond me I suppose.
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>homestuck/earthbound 2.0 ripoff
>not even a game, just a boring story with horrible writing
>furry and necrophilia enabling
>edgy as fuck story
>extreme pixelshit graphics not even a good pixel style, literally just tetris box thrown together
>cringeworthy characters
>that god awful self insert the creator did
>PAYING MONEY FOR THIS
It was an insult to people that others actually considered this game of the year material
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>>25377694
The inconsistency doesn't allow you to anticipate particular settings + the moods which come with them.

Take the Ruins -> Meeting Sans in the forest bit. You are in a very simplistically colored hallway, solid colors, walk through a long corridor and go through the main entrance. The camera is panned up to give you a view of the tall trees, ambient noises play. Detail. Lots more detail.

It feels like you're stepping out into the real world.

If you're like most people, you have accidentally killed Toriel, reloaded a save, spared her, but then Flowey points out he knows what REALLY happened, and implies that you will HAVE to pay for consequences eventually.

That just puts a better emphasis on not knowing what to expect.

Even the enemy attacks were all super unique. The game never makes itself mundane through any of its systems. (Besides maybe inventory + box shit)
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Is all that pan-/demi-/whateversexuality actually canon to the game? The only thing I know about Undertale is the art style and that you don't have to kill every enemy. That's it.
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>>25374583
good but quite overrated + cancerous fanbase
i've checked their /vg/ thread once full of cringe and goat.
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>>25379510

Ok imagine you're making a game and there are some characters where if there was some kind of relationship it would be funny/ give the world a more knit together story.

One instance is these 2 bro dude knights who speak in that typical frat boy style. Like a parody of /fit/. During the fight you can make one of them get nervous around the other, "in a totally not- like- not in that way bro" way

Another is just one lesbian crush between 2 misfit characters, where it actually kinda makes more sense if both of them are girls. (There's this one pathetic weeb scientist character who no one likes, but their passion for their shit is admirable. It would be less admirable if they were a guy)


Think of it this way; he added just these 2 gay relationships in the story where it doesn't really make a big impact/ isn't really the subject. It could've been a regular relationship and it wouldn't have mattered. That's the point. It doesn't matter.

No, no one is pansexual. The fact that people think the main character is strictly non-orientated is retarded. The character is an ambiguous/ androgynous because of the such low detail. Also they're a child. It was just an easier way to assign customization to the character without having a set of 2 different sprites for male/ female characters. It was literally laziness that was misinterpreted.

What tumblr is doing is 100% bastardization of the story/ intentions. They don't even acknowledge what the game does correctly; telling narrative mostly through mechanics.

The most interesting characters aren't gay or misfit.

The coolest or most important parts of the game/ narrative have nothing to do with sexuality.
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>>25377149
>pacifist run
ain't nobody got time 'fo dat
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>>25379608
>What tumblr is doing is 100% bastardization of the story/ intentions. They don't even acknowledge what the game does correctly; telling narrative mostly through mechanics.
That's kind of what I expected, the usual tumblr bullshit. Thanks for making it clear.
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>>25374583
this game made me feel like total shit everytime i killed someone. its been a long time a videogame actually gave me a feel.
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>>25379603
I like to shitpost in there sometime and call it homestuck trash, its fun watching them get triggered over it, its always the same responses
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I like it because I want Mettaton Ex to dominate me. I want to be his slave.
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>>25374583
I can tell the game is shit by seeing shillstorm all over the place.
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>>25375493
Never knew Earthbound had bullet hell. That's pretty cool
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>>25379305

literally the most bait-y post of the month here folks
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>>25379169

You're like the people who watch 10 minutes of the first episode of a show and spend the next 10 months on the internet slapping dicks with the other hater faggots. Your opinion is literally worthless unless you actually experienced the game enough to have a coherent point of view.

>loading screen was gay, 0/10 do not buy this pleb trash
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At one point I wrote out my thoughts on Undertale, it took up three posts and the thread was immediately deleted afterwards so at this point I don't like to talk about Undettale out of spite but I'll summarise my opinions.

The ACT system is a creative and interesting battle mechanic that offers a different experienec with each enemy type. The personality infused into each and evet aspect of the game makes this fun for a while, but unfortunately once you figure out the gimmick if an enemy they become boring to fight again, this is only made worse by how easy the game is.

The game combines the JRPG and bullet hell genre, but it's extremelt barebones on each side. I'm not especially well versed in bullet hells, but eje I know that Undertale has incredibly tame fights to what you would see in games like Touhou and the JRPG side is a joke compared to SMT and other great JRPG's.

This will take two posts.
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>>25381920
I absolutely despised the 2deep4u attempt at exploring how people interact with characters in videogames. It's been done before, it wasn't clever then amd it's not clever now. Yes, I replayed it to kill everyone, it's a videogame and I want to experience all the content it has to offer, Toby's attempt at deconstructing the genre is laughable at best, especially with the "LV is Level of Violence and EXP is Execution Points" nonsense. Aside from that drivel you have to put up with in the Genocide route, it's a very enjoyable playthrough. It's far too easy aside from the boss fights, but the fact that your character seems completely unhinged, psychotic and powerful leads to a lot of fun, not to mention the Sans boss fight is the best in the game.

All in all, it's pretty good, I think Toby did well in making a Mother-esque game even if Undertale isn't quite as good as Mother 2 or 3. The best thing about Undertale is the heart and soul that went into it and the personality that the game emits, it's a fresh of breath air from all the soulless cash-ins you get from videogames these days and it's probably why so many people like it.
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>>25381107
>hurr I disagree so its bait!
Fuck off, undertale shill
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>>25375274

Lisa is too difficult. never have enough mags and combat is too complex
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>>25381940
tldr Anon


Your last paragraph would've been enough.
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>>25382127
Hey, he asked for my opinion so I gave it.
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I really liked it when I played it, maybe got a bit too into the story and thought about it for a week.
Then I stopped caring.

I think games like this attract autists who want virtual mommies I feel ashamed actually
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It contaminated an aesthetic I love (Japanese Indie games) with an aesthetic I despise (Tumblrshit) in a really cringey, hamfisted way, so I fucking loathe it for that reason.

When I saw its intro and how it was basically a American Tumblr fag "getting" indie Japanese games and "contributing" to the genre with his own "le twist", I dry-heaved. Pretty much everything in the game is a barely disguised ripoff, and plebs ate it up because they're plebs.

Exactly like Hollywood doing an anime/foreign film "with a proper budget, orchestra, director, and REAL actors!" or Dreamworks xD remaking and shitting up a Miyazaki movie with memejokes. Burgers, stay away from Japan's mysterious understated beauty.
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>>25374980
Get on my level
original post coming through
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