What college majors are 100% a total waste of time? I need to pick a major and I want to know what is absolutely off-limits.
>>25336054
All of them. Take it from someone who has graduated college, works a job that doesn't require college (sales) and is going into the military in 6 months: Just learn a trade.
>>25336054
anything related to business and management.
>which major will enable me to become a better wagecuck
>paying money and years of your life to become a better slave
college is a scam unless ur studying computer science, engineering, or medicine. or if you get teaching certification for a liberal arts subject.
>>25336054
Anything that isnt a medical degree you can teach yourself with books and the internet.
Engineering/CS/accounting are the only viable majors. Everything else must be avoided.
>>25336114
someone chose a shit major
>>25336161
>computer science
>not a scam
In two years, it'll be as worthless as an art degree. It's projected to be insanely oversaturated.
>>25336114
This. If you don't know what you want, don't go. At the most, go for a year, try some survey classes that help you find what you like and decide from there if you want to continue education.
>>25336160
>being a slave to your parent's cash and/or government aid
LOL.
>>25336114
>just learn a trade.
Don't do this unless you have no other options. The only reason people are here is because they don't have anything else. Skilled labor is the end of the line.
>>25336232
It's only overvalued because of how many people can't even program.
If you're a good programmer you will be swept up in a second.
I make $36 an hour in my internship, don't listen to any of these cucks in the thread.
I'll start with a basic master plot
good
>all engineering majors
>all math/science majors
>all business majors
>all IT/technology majors
>philosophy if you want to go to law school
>language if you solely want to work in the country where it is native and want to get as close as possible to being a native
>anything if you plan on only going directly into teaching
bad
>"x studies" majors
>anything related to cultures
>your native language
>art unless it's something digital and you'd better have a kick ass portfolio/business plan
will post a master list of a lot of majors so we can check them off one by one
>>25336136
This. I have a degree in Business Administration and unless I want to work in some large corporation, the best i can do is work a menial office job for $11 an hour. I don't mind it, but it's not worth it for most people.
>>25336281
>art unless it's something digital and you'd better have a kick ass portfolio/business plan
I'd add to this, it's only worth trying for art if you've been drawing constantly since an extremely young age. If you weren't making comprehensive pieces by age 10, then you won't be a good artist. This has been confirmed by numerous teachers.
>>25336054
Social Sciences
Anything rewarding a BA
If you don't have connections then economics is a waste
Law is a cuck degree
If you're smart, go for a STEM, if you aren't don't cuck yourself at Uni
>>25336325
I'm in architecture and this is similar. Honestly even from the 100 classes it's evident who has a design sense and who doesn't. If you've been paying attention to buildings and good designs for the past decade you will have an inclination of what constitutes a "good design." While it can be taught, the people that have been familiar with design the longest tend to do the best.
>>25336054
Because no one wants to answer OP in anything but memes
>gender studies
>English or any language major
>business or management
>philosophy
>music/theater/art
>cosmetology, or any service position
>if your university has diversity quotas, computer science or any programming
>emergency medicine unless you're using it as a stepping stone to real medicine
Pretty much the best thing you can do for yourself is to learn a trade, something like plumbing, mechanics, or welding. If you're smart enough and have the cash, medicine could be good as long as you choose the right field in which to specialize.
>>25336281
pic related
we can basically cross everything off that is below the average.
>>25336325
I work in the arts. This isnt even remotely true. You do know everyone who spouts this meme on /ic/ are trolls and know-nothing hobbyists, right?
I am a gallery manager for a small commercial gallery, regularly exhibit as a painter and am regularly published in art criticism journals.
>>25336399
this is a basic list, and we can cross things out from here on out
>>25336418
>I am a gallery manager for a small commercial gallery, regularly exhibit as a painter and am regularly published in art criticism journals.
Just out of curiosity, how much do you make?
>>25336399
Music is heavily underrated, I am a pianist and I make way too much.
>>25336054
if you are a true robot and are okay with just making 40-50k a year just learn a trade. only go to college if you want to make 6+figures
Maybe I could get some input on my situation.
I'm leaving for the University in the US next year and I'll live there afterwards.
Right now I'm studying History over here to become a teacher, but I decided that I don't want to continue doing that (neither do I enjoy it much - considering its something I used to be passionate about - nor is the pay going to be great).
So I went through the majors at my future university and picked stuff I think I could pass (I'm not the smartest cuck in the shed) that also offers good jobs.
Could you give me some input on
Accounting
Healthcare Administration
Business Management
Construction Management
Thanks in advance, please no bully.
>>25336399
>>25336443
is anyone else surprised at how high some of these are? but even at the average, the difference between the engineers and the business management major is almost 1 million dollars.
>>25336530
I guess it's because art-related professions (music, film, etc. etc.) have smalled chances of success. To be successful in thorse fields, you'll have to the top 10% or something like that and you're gonna make pretty decent moneys, but the other 90% will struggle, which obviously brings the average down. While to be a successful STEM faggot you need to have a functioning brain and that's it, the majority will get a decent salary.
>>25336280
What language and frameworks are you comfortable with. Any cool projects?
>>25336399
>mfw most stuff I want to work with is either just above or just below ALL MAJORS
Don't care too much about money though as long as I can work, earn a living and enjoy what I'm doing.
>>25336619
>functioning brain
you need to be a sharp knife to go for STEM, anon. it's no joke. you either get it or you don't. there is a reason these guys get paid way more than everyone else.
>>25336399
Where does automation and robotics stand?
>>25336638
...while i earn double of what you make in a year doing something I similarly find enjoyable to an extent?
do you see the logic here anon. even above the average, the difference in salary is fucking double. don't even bother looking at the ones below the average.
>>25336681
that'd fit with electrical/computer/mechanical/CS
>>25336594
>the difference between the engineers and the business management major is almost 1 million dollars.
That's like 25k an year, it's not that impressive.
>>25336136
Tfw you have your Buisness Admin degree and make 89K per year as a warehouse manager telling minorities to move things all day
>>25336280
This, my dad was a damn good software engineer and made at least 250k+ a year
>tfw we were still broke because he paid alimony/CS to like four different women JUST
there's zero job security, but if you're decent you'll put together a good resume in time and there will always be jobs for you.
>>25336709
25K is what like 30% of the US makes a year.
that's a car a year, or a crazy vacation, or loads of toys. of course 25K is a lot of money.
>>25336780
>Tax though
>>25336054
It depends. If you wish to study in a third-world country, where you have to pay for education (USA for example), then pick carefully. Law seems a good choice.
>>25336627
Python and C++.
I have a few cool projects, mostly involving robotics and a music manager I developed.
Succeeding in CS is NOT HARD if you know how to program.
Everyone who is circle jerking the CS is over saturated has no fucking clue what they are talking about. It gives me a good laugh though.
I've learned people want to justify their own shitty decisions by hopping onto the STEM is shit meme.
>>25336399
I have a cousin with a aerospace engineering degree.
She works a cash register in a clothing store.
>>25336961
>she
>works in a clothing store
..and? is this supposed to be weird or surprising?
>>25336531
> only go to college if you want to make 6+figures
or no job and crippling debt
>>25336983
Where is that on your chart, again?
>>25336232
Doing CS atm. This is only a half truth. There are too many people studying it. But most of them are no good. There are 4 kinds of people who do CS:
1. Weebs/Fedoralords who did Python for 3 weeks and think they're Linus Torvalds
2. Injee gayme divs, working desperately on the latest Mario ripoff
3. Normies who got told they were good with computers because they set up a facebook for their grandmother
4. People who are actually good
Of those, a small percentage will actually graduate with a degree in CS. Most will either transfer out or just simply drop out. Besides, every field is oversaturated because the lower classes and idiots can get into just about anything cuz dem programs n sheeit.
>>25337062
you seem to forget that your cousin is a girl and that girls are garbage at STEM
>>25337093
So terrible she earned a degree in it
>>25336160
I got over 11k back of my leftover scholarship and grant money, to spend however I please. It's not that hard to pay for.
>>25337130
really doesn't matter if they didn't work in it after graduating. p hard to not get a job with an engineering degree. it's safe to say that she wasn't that great. for all you know, she hated it and just finished it because she was too far in. stop riding your cousins dick, faggot.
>>25337130
What was her GPA
Did she do any internships or have any connections
>>25336276
>skilled labor is the end of the line
KEK. I my trade involved fixing traffic signals subcontractor, then I moved up doing for the state, and now I'm working in a military base hooking up communications equipment. I've done nothing, but move up with my trade labor. Eat a dick.
>>25336893
To add to what this anon said:
pick your bachelor/masters project carefully
after internships it's the best way to show off your skills to your future employer and is a great way to get some valuable experience in the field of your choice
I made the mistake to wait too long and ended up with with a project mostly unrelated to what I wanted to do afterwards.
I wanted to get a cool programming job and all I got were invites for Business Intelligence positions due to my project.
it was still a cool project and thus got me job right after college but still...
>>25336893
Was getting an internship difficult? I'm starting to look for some now.
Which has more pros/cons, Trade or Vocational school, I didn't and couldn't go to college because I'm a poorfag, so I want to weigh my options so I don't NEET for the rest of my life.
>At best school possible
>Doing worst degree possible
My future is pretty cloudy atm
>>25337323
literally the same thing with vocational school sometimes adding in shit like computer programming
how hard is it to get an internship at cartoon network in atlanta? I'm going for a major in cs, and wanted to work in some animation company and that seems the easiest option.
>>25337352
What degree m8?
>>25336054
>a total waste of time
Art
Music
Theatre, Film, etc.
Mathematics
Physics
Biology
History, Archeology, etc.
Women's Studies
Literature, Language, etc (any language) with the exception of straight out Translation (but not shit like English-Japanese or Spanish, more like Arabian or Chinese)
>>25336325
This isn't really true. Some people are just more careful, compulsive, or have an eye for design. Not so much about practice, because anyone can practice. Some talent is more about your personality.
Every good designer I meet has mild OCD. Every great artist seems a bit compulsive. It's not true to every artist but if you have no interest/can't practice and you've always sucked, just don't go into art.
>>25337625
>physics
>biology
lol no
>>25337289
I've had 3 internships. It gets easier with each internship on your resume.
You should have been applying yesterday. Apply like a fucking mad man, right now. Filling applications is boring as fuck but worth it.
Also talk to your uni, any decent uni should have a career center that can help out. That's how I got my first one.
You only have a couple legitimate options unless you are really skilled in your desired field and a good networker.
Engineering, Comp. Sci, Healthcare (mostly nursing t b h), Accounting, Economics
Everything else is LITERALLY shit
>>25337497
Japanese as a foreign language
>>25336399
Damn, economics is truly the master race.
Anyone here doing it too?
>>25336054
dont fall for the stem meme
Graduated with a politics degree and I dont have a clue what to do
>>25337625
>tfw everything you love is on that list
>>25336054
Trying to sexually please a woman with your pathetic, soft pencil dick is 100% a total waste of time. So, you know. Don't major in that. Fag.
Is m-music composition degenerate? ;_;
>>25336399
>tfw was considering chemical engineering
I guess I'm not an idiot, I'm gonna make $$$
>>25337625
>Arabian
confirmed for absolute know-nothing
ITT: 18-24 year olds who think they have all the answers
And everyone else is here to be a pretentious asshole bragging about how much money they have despite having no friends.
>>25337625
>Study history
>Become president for 8 years
>>25338291
Some older cuck who thinks he's acquired some wisdom.
This is r9k retard.
>>25336054
Don't get a BA unless you're an attractive female. You'll end up flipping burgers or working in sales. I don't know which sciences are worth your time but every single person I know who majored in the humanities is either working for peanuts or going to grad school, including most Staceys and Chads.
>>25338291
>>25338291
>>25338291
ITT: 18-24 year olds who think they have all the answers
And everyone else is here to be a pretentious asshole bragging about how much wisdom they have despite having no friends.
>>25337919
>economics
>can't even make as much as engineers
just kys now, don't wait.
>>25338114
chemical is only that high because of muh oil and gas. don't worry, chemical engineers usually make as much as mechanicals.
>>25337919
Econ 4 lyfe bebe
>>25336276electricians make 60k you nigger. More if you start your own contracting firm.
>>25337772
>>25336893
lets say I have a 2.9 gpa, is it even worth applying for internships for comp sci? or should I just go kill myself
>>25339639
45k average nice try though. have fun breathing in asbestos too <3
>ctrl+f game design
>0 results
Phew, s-sure dodged a b-bullet right guys?
>>25339806
>have fun breathing in asbestos too <3
What is this, 1945?
>>25339874
>majored in game design
i hope that's the joke\
>>25339921
why do idiots like you even post other than to waste my time? electricians are working in attics and drilling into fucking asbestos. it's why they get mesothelioma all of the fucking time retard. this is why those commercials are for tradesmen. they fuck with job-site shit, and face the consequences of it.
>>25339971
not yet i am a junior so far
my mommy put me up to this because "I like to play games all the time and am on the computer" and i had no motivation for college or midnight a major i wanted
deep down i knew it was a bad major to pursue and only a niche market is there for it but I did not know what else I could do
i had rather just not go to college altogether and just live in a shitty apartment with a minimum wage job just paying for my internet and food
but mommy insisted that i get a college degree and that just having a college degree will get me a better job regardless if it deals with game design or not
>>25340086
you sound like a creepy faggot. stop talking to me.
>>25340113
what is so creepy about me?
the fact i like to refer to my mother as mommy?
obligatory videos for university threads from 8ch if you're considering STEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poEK0QN9Ufk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXPDWiH0gmY
>>25336114
What branch are you joining?
>tfw English
>tfw just joining Air Force as an officer after I graduate anyway
Yeah, fuck off stemfags
>>25340210
cock-sucking oh wait that's all of them
>not doing Polisci and then law school
Unsuccessful faggots abound. You know those rich fat cats you see on cartoons that have top hats, smoke cigars, are morbidly obese, and fuck $1000 hookers in their penthouse suites? Those are the people who do poli/law.
>>25340525
lol that's funny because of how wrong it is
>>25340337
All this salt senpai
Business.
>Source: I did a Business undergrad.
>>25340552
Whatever you say mi familia.
>>25340567
>talking back to your senpai
Did you just disrespect me, anon-chan?
>>25336709
$25k is nothing to sneeze at, don't be a 'tard
>>25340635
Where and was it a business management degree?
>>25337625
>Mathematics
>Physics
Here we see the autistic engineer, upset that he couldn't do a real degree
>>25340165
>STEM = Engineering
when will this meme die
still very informative
>>25340525
the legal market has been imploding over the last twenty years (maybe longer), but sure, you'll be one of the few who pulls in six figgies
>>25340165
>tfw those are my videos
>>25340799
The same can be said about any kind of profession nowadays.
The key is not to be just a lawyer, but a great one, and to do that, you have to have a killer gpa, a great LSAT (which will get you into a great law school). From there you build connections and network, which is the same thing you do in pretty much any subject or profession.
But sure, if you want an easy time where you can just slack through school, don't do law school.
>>25337352
(Assuming you actually go to Harvard)
First of all, Harvard ain't #1 anymore, get used to it. http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges
Secondly, seriously just do something business-y and go to Wall St. and become the ultimate wage-cuck Jew. Any major from a real Ivy can get there as long as you join a finance club and go to recruiting events. Heck, it's a running joke here how every Art History and Gender Studies student from HYP gets there somehow.
Sure, life will suck, enjoy 70+ hr workweeks, and sucking a ton of dick, but at least you get paid for it. If you can't handle the work, maybe try consulting.Princeton econ major here
>>25340829
Proof faggot
>>25336399
>Marketing is above average
Thank fuck
>>25340949
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0T0SvtDcl7o
>>25341061
still disappointment to be marketing
Who /learning for the sake of learning/ here?
I'm majoring in anthropology and minoring in history. I don't care much what I do when I graduate. Getting a high-paying job should not be the purpose of going to a place of higher education; desu I find that those people really dilute the learning environment. No major is a waste of time if you enjoy studying it.
>inb4 the "you could do that for free with a library card" argument. A professor's job is to give you insight into the reading material that you wouldn't get on your own. Discussion with peers is as essential an element of education as reading is (provided you aren't at some community college surrounded by mongoloids)
If you want to know if your major is literally god-tier, just look at what qualifies you to become an astronaut.
https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/423817000
literally if you have any of those degrees, you can say
>my degree qualifies me to become an astronaut because i'm so fucking smart and useful
which is fucking awesome
>>25336054
Anything that isn't medicine or STEM related is a waste a time. If you're a sociopath you'd probably be successful if you major in business or something similar.
I highly recommend a Physics & Economics double bachelors. Trust me.
-E.M
>>25342166
I'm currently considering creating a dating website when I graduate.
>>25336114
>going to college was a waste
>meanwhile I can be an officer with my degree
>judging all majors in all fields by the qualifications for one job, which only 20 or so people in the world will have at any given moment
10/10 logic right here
>>25336443
>>25340165
>>25342024
>>25342095
>>25342172
>>25342166
>only useful posts in this entire thread
I have a mathematics degree.
I wish so badly that I had chosen a second major in economics, actuarial science, business, accounting, anything business related. It would have been perfect. Just math alone is shit.
>>25342287
Why not just go back for a masters in something to apply your math knowledge to? It seems like the next logical step.
>>25336281
>philosophy if you want to go to law school
>having to study a bunch of unrelated shit before you can start studying law
Pretty gay system
>>25342318
like 95% of philosophy majors are pre-law you dumb fuck. what the fuck do you think law is?
>>25342172
fucking this tbqh family
>understand our physical universe
>understand humans and our society
it's the fucking most god-tier shit you could possibly do. fuck engineering, this is where it's at if you want to have your fucking mind blown and reach god-like intuition and knowledge of fucking everything
I guess I'll shoot for Comp Science. I'm not very good at math, but I can become good at it.
Go for big time or nothing, right?
I know im late to the party, but im doing CS with no prior experience and getting along okay. When do i want to be looking at internships? Im only at the very beginning of the degree at this point, so im not experienced enough to even bother trying. Would i want to do it in the summer after first year? Second year?
>>25342350
It sounds like it isn't law.
Fucking cuck faggot retard.
>>25342172
As silly as this is, I totally agree.
>>25342761
>CS
>big
kek
jk, but that's sort of how i'm looking at it too. We should be jumping into something that is actually challenging like engineering/cs/physics etc. I feel like we'll look back on ourselves 4-5 years from now wishing we sucked it up and did the challenging work. There are so many benefits to it.
like, who gives a fuck if you went into IT or psychology or whatever? nobody fucking cares. it's easy. it's for idiots. you're not impressive or spending your time/money wisely and for all intents and purposes are a total bitch to take an easy major.
-end rant
>>25342811
shut the fuck up you fucking cucked low IQ smelly nigger faggot. Stop even talking to me I don't want to catch your faggot disease. Fight me gay bitch I'll fuck your ass in half.
>>25336961
and I failed a levels and work for bae :)
biology and chemistry
>>25337659
try finding a decent job with a BS in biology or physics and have fun
>>25342811
It IS law though, retard.
Half of law practice is being intimately familiar with logic, and how to make ground-up valid arguments.
I have a degree in biology. You can get jobs with it, but they are mostly concentrated in major cities and don't tend to pay very much. That said you will be competing with a ton of other people since biology is a very popular major (shit tons of pre-meds out there).
I have degrees in Bio and Art History.
I somehow ended up working an International Logistics Analyst at a Fortune 500.
Feels pretty damn good to be quite honest family.
>>25336812
at that level of weath they have crafy jew accountants though
If you don't know what to study going in, you're only rackng up a bill that aint worth it. Go learn what you enjoy and then figure out what school works best for that training.
>>25343884
desu most degree are just a check for seeing if you can sit and do work for 4 years. Once you get your first job you can spin off and do just about anything
I would like to advise everyone in this thread to try to understand how tax brackets work. Ive seen too many people on this board make comments like, "If I get a pay raise of 1000 bucks a year it will tip me into the next bracket and I'll make less money".
>No you are retarded.
Your income is only taxed for the brackets that it falls into.
For example: Assume the brackets are:
20% up to 30k
35% at 30k+
40% at 50k+.
Lets say you make 29k a year and you get a raise of 22k.
Great Job!
It means that the cash *between* 30 and 50 thousand dollars of your income will be taxed at 35%. The remaining 1k *over* 50% will be taxed at 40%.
I majored in fine arts with a concentration in ceramics. It got me a job in a museum.
>>25342310
I'm getting married and need to start making money now. The shitty part is I could have graduated with a masters if I hadn't fucked up 2 classes my sophomore year. I need a job fast.
>>25342310
Also I have no interest in graduate school simply because I kind of hate this. I want to go make money and work hard, not be a student any more.
I'm doing graphic design.
>>25344134
As a janitor?
>>25344786
>I need a job fast.
You and everyone else.
>>25336195
lol engineering and accounting is literally for cucks at least accounting you won't have much trouble finding a job but it is god awful work. CS is pretty good as well as IS.
>>25336114
>>25337210
>>25339639
Manual labor is for low IQ apes.
>>25336054
Based on the first few posts, it's clear that /r9k/ will not appreciate or understand what I will tell you OP, which is a true answer.
But with very, very few exceptions, if all we're talking about are boring things like money, economics, employment prospects and so on, then pretty much all four-year degrees have intrinsic value in the sense that they make you more employable and/or employers actually will take you a bit more seriously if you have one than not. It's just a credentialing baseline that HR types (or persons doing an HR function at the moment) like to see irrespective of major, because of everything that it implies: you spent a long period of time on a project, played by certain rules (or if you didn't, then you didn't get caught), and actually succeeded in finishing. "Closing" is important in businesses, and HR types don't like to take a chance on a non-four-year-person for some middling skill-set role if they don't have to.
NOW. Having said all that, it should be obvious that some majors are more employable or "desirable" in the labor force than others. So now I'll throw out an assortment of uncool majors to avoid. Women's studies is a joke, Psychology is diluted (most popular undergrad major last I checked ten years ago, I think dull, unreflective ~105 IQ normies just automatically pick it because they want to study something more interesting to them than business, but it's common and pleb as fuck as an undergrad major), and architecture has repeatedly been reported in the past five years as as a bad choice if you want real work. There's a bunch of SJW/fluff majors and minors depending on the school, which you should recognize pretty much instantly, so you'll just avoid them as a matter of course. Consider something, anything in STEM (seriously) and/or business if you can learn to like that, and/or law or something med related if you're an ambitious turbo-normie. (cont)
>>25345237
Now of course, it is also true that women's education plus the "college" meme generally, has diluted the value of a Bachelor's since there's plenty of not-particularly bright of competent plebs who have one these days (diversity quotas are also to blame for this, since browner people are dumber people). Therefore, it is very easy for robots, /pol/sters and so on to fall for the "fell for college meme" meme in the sense that they become more dismissive of it, but I repeat: it is better to have a four year degree than not... provided your debt upon completion is not some stupidly unmanageable thing north of, say, $25,000 or similar.
Having said that, it is true what others have said, that we do need people in trades; labor forces for plumbing, HVAC, trucking and similar endeavors are in fact drying up (and I know some of this from experience); you can do just fine for yourself in a skilled trade.
My big pushback against the "fell for college meme" meme is that today's young men seem to see all the leftist rotgut in the academy, the women receiving credentialing while playing on tutorial mode, (all while not getting any sex in those pivotal 18-24 years), and then for whatever reason concluding that college isn't for them. This is a form of psychological self-cuckoldry, and self-selecting out of what invariably leads (demographically, if not individually) to a better state of existence, which is education. Now I"m actually gonna wax "left" for a bit, because I happen to agree with the following, and there really is no better way than this to describe the anti-college attitude today. (cont)
>>25343592
>jobs
>expanding your mind only in efforts to be a waegkek for chad
>not living off ramen as a means of supporting expanse of your mind
You know the Socratics were just a bunch of hippy NEETs that hung around in gardens. Never did anything for humanity.
>>25345445
The anti-college attitude of today is disturbing on multiple levels, but in one sense it can actually be explained by means of a sort of mainstream if-not-"left", than "intellectual" analysis. Particularly in America.
-There IS an American tradition of anti-intellectualism. It's not cool to be the smart kid in the class, "the eggheads don't know what they're talking about", and so on. "Knowing stuff" is somehow effeminate. I think this may have abated somewhat over time among white demographic groups, but it's still as firmly entrenched as ever among the brown castes, where there's more of a crabs-in-a-bucket effect. Asians OTOH have always culturally loved tests, exams, credentialing...
-Young men today see the debt, the women flooding the campuses, and somehow seem to convince themselves that a credentialing is as bad or as toxic to one's own future as a marriage can be. This isn't the case; student debt is "good debt" in the sense that you can eventually make more money, and it (your education) won't be capriciously taken away from you eight years later just because you're not fucking her right anymore. Education is as permanent as your brain is. This is why Jews (who are smart) emphasized the acquisition of education, which is portable-it can't be taken away.
-The fascist (or far-right, or alt-right) distrust of certain strains of abstract thought (which is at times reasonable, witness the Obama administration, Obamacare etc) nevertheless has its own more immediate diminishing returns opposite the Marxist ivory-tower theorizers. If you make it cool to be dumb, you get dumb people. At some point, this is maladaptive. The manosphere personality Roosh himself once dismissed higher education in general in an article of his; but given his audience and rhetorical intent, I believe he just plain hates the feminism and SJW-dom of today, which although reasonable is a poor justification to throw higher ed (that matters) in toto under the bus.
>>25336054
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>>25336353
econ is basically math/stats
>you fucking don't understand how uni works
>>25336557
>accounting
A-ok friends
>everything else
Literal trash
Maybe this isn't the best place to ask, but I signed up for a computer science/network technology associates program. I figure i can get some basic IT job and work in a bachelors degree in the side.
Good plan? Am I cucked?
Everything is a waste of time, as we all day. This thread is probably nothing but STEM majors who measure the usefulness of a degree by what material goods it will get you.
>>25346279
pretty funny how STEM majors are the ones doing the things that matter and you're going on about how assmad you are that you don't make as much as them so they must have gone into it for the money.
>>25346046
kek. Computer Science is arguably as good.
>>25346318
>lol i can just google the info
you literally have the logic of a college drop out from the middle of butt-fuck, nowhere USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aikjdi3psUE
lmao good luck with life genius
>>25336399
>neuro makes 1 mil less than engineers
>mfw i want to go neuro
>not becoming a part of BIG PHARMA
i shig pig
>>25346308
>things that matter
Top spook
I doubt you're the one putting people in space, and yes, they do measure the usefulness via money, see
>>25336399
>>25336443
>>25336893
Stage one at the moment and all we've programmed with is Java. Need help with most projects and find it tough in general. Do you think it'll get better? I mean, I want to ride the degree out, at least for three years.
>>25346558
yes, which i am also saying as those were my posts. why are you replying to me with my own posts and going against my point with my own point? wtf drugs are you on
>>25346590
You saying I believe 'they must have gone into it for the money' implied that wasn't the case. The posts I quoted said that anything that made below average was useless. You contradicted yourself then. Maybe you should have paid more attention in English class :^)?
>>25346704
>tfw made high english SAT score like 3 years ago
>didn't study
i am a natural, i'll have you know anon
>>25344984
What you don't get is that a 60$/h normal manual labor job is far superior to a software designing job that pays 22$/h
as long as you're not self-employed or in a high position you're not better than manual labor dudes in the least
>>25342589
>understand humans and our society
???
>>25347151
what do you think economics is anon
>>25347174
well what is it?
>>25336114
silly goy, you need it to progress forward in life just because you failed dosent mean that everyone else can't be in deb- uhh i mean take out loans that they will pay off with their successful future jobs
>>25347241
The ultimate goal of economics is to improve the living conditions of people in their everyday life. It's the study of how people choose to use resources AKA how society works.
>>25344984
>this is what weak and lazy omegas tell themselves as they struggle through their shitty degrees and enter the job market with zero skills and an inflated sense of worth
Kek.
>>25347329
>It's the study of how people choose to use resources
marketing and social engineering?
>>25347369
Did you know that engineers and scientists are the ones giving you the work to do in the first place? You can't say the inverse, and even if you could, you're disposable so it would have nothing to do with you anyway.
>>25347395
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>25336160
You're right. You're seeing through the ruse that ordinary sheep can't see. Thanks for owning everybody that wants to be self sufficient.
>>25347308
>mfw I went to community college
>>paid out of pocket, no debt after Associates
>transferred to brick and mortar school with pretty good online program
>test out of a shit load of their business core
>will only need to take a years worth of classes to get my finance degree.
>still no debt
Sorry Mr Sheklestien, but I beat you at your own game. And I'm not even jewish
>>25347440
is it only the study of how people choose ressources //which implies whatever on their behavior and whatever whatever// ?
this is just a fraction of understanding the human nature, an almost rootless one
>started college to do physics
>get put in english, theatre, and art history
I dropped out on the first day. I'm not paying money out the ass to take a bunch of bullshit. I became a stoner who works as a dishwasher and play video games all day. I'm enjoying life a lot more that way, fuck college.
>>25347526
The way it was explained there was as grossly simplified as it could possibly be. Economics is a very good degree.
Any of the liberal arts. The only exception is psychology. However, about the only job you'll get with it is a job coordinating care for people with mental illnesses. Use it to go onto graduate school.
In other words, the bachelor's degree sucks--get a Ph.D. and do research.
>>25347440
>falling for this bullshit stem maymay
I don't know a single engineer or scientist who does anything whatsoever that generates anything resembling meaningful work. They all work in shitty companies or research places, earning nothing worth mentioning.
If you weren't such an obvious petulant brat, you wouldn't be such a delusional and arrogant little cunt about grown up things you don't understand
History majors, yay or nay?
>>25347663
the bait smells too much, anon
What major is basically occult studies? I want to become an occult detective
>>25342095
>about to kill myself due to the wage chart
>at least the shitty clinical psych thing is something nasa recognizes
fuck man
>>25347727
>le bait maymay
Only a complete child actually thinks stem = prestigious job
>>25347663
>If you weren't such an obvious petulant brat, you wouldn't be such a delusional and arrogant little cunt about grown up things you don't understand
Remember to stay mad.
Biology undergrad is absolutely useless unless you go to med school or grad school. By itself, it's a $12/hour jerkoff job where you clean test tubes and prepare petri dishes.
Chemistry by itself isn't much better, but it can be useful.
Physics undergrad is great, plenty of companies target: engineering, physics, math, statistics, computer science . Just if they want someone who's smart in terms of logical thinking etc. Finance in particular.
>>25336195
Poorfag detected. Accounting is literally pleb tier finance. You might as well be a network engineer, you'll probably get shit on less.
>>25347808
As mad as you when you finally click and accept that I'm right?
>>25336619
Also realistically if this OP kun already knew he was going to study art he would. So he's not going to.
>>25347597
i dont doubt it's a very good degree
>>25346345
Computer Science is okay because it's a lot easier to land a job in any computer field with it. I got my bachelors a couple years ago and jumped from IT Networking to software management then to straight up developing software for clients.
It's a typical wagecuck scenario but the starting pay is decent and benefits with paid vacations are alright too.
>>25348050
If you weren't such an obvious petulant brat, you wouldn't be such a delusional and arrogant little cunt about grown up things you don't understand
>>25344984
>most trades require complicated math, physics, understanding and making blueprints, and a multitude of other things requiring intelligence
Granted, a bricklayer, construction worker, or trucker etc is probably retarded, but many trades are actually pretty fucking challenging which is why they require years of training to do.
What is the point of posting this on /r9k/ or 4chan in general? Everyone here is an engineering or computer science major who thinks that a world outside of computers doesn't exist anyway.
>>25348214
Not even vaguely true
>>25344984
>be plumber
>hear faggots like this talk shit about trades all the time
>don't give a fuck because I make fucking bank, own my own house (OWN, i'm not a mortgagekek) and have zero debt at 26
Kek. Keep hating on tradies, the more people think trades suck, the more money I get to charge due to lack of competition.
>>25336399
>Political Science
>Above average
There's hope for me yet desu family
>tfw 3 months into an insurance sales gig
>tfw haven't sold a single policy
I think I'm going to be fired soon.
I really hope I am- I'm too chickenshit to put in my 2 weeks. But I'm paranoid because most of my job is cold-calling and I could go to jail if I cold call the wrong person due to threat of harassment bs charges.
Every day feels like I'm playing russian roulette.
>>25337823
>Accounting, Economics
Which one of these is better? I think economics only is if you go to a very good school.
>>25348330
it's just not that interesting and the life-style seems shitty(bu-dum psshh)
>>25342770
Most go the summer after second year.
It's worth giving it a go after first year though, just to get experience with interviews and all that and to meet some people.
Honestly some companies don't actually want someone who knows shit. They want someone with fundamental skills that they can mold into their perfect coder.
>>25342589
Double majoring is always a waste of time. A single degree in the relevant field is enough to get your foot in the door anywhere, whether it is grad school or your dream job. Educate yourself on your own after that. Economics is the easiest subject in the world to pick up by yourself, especially if you've done physics before.
hi guys im majoring in east asian studies
>>25348411
It can be literally shitty on occasion but I mean, just wear gloves and don't wipe your eyes.
>>25348694
I got a minor in that. Specializing in a particular country?
>>25336161
GTFO you haven't the faintest clue
>>25336893
CS Major here, but my internships have been think tank type stuff due to another program of study. Am I fucked for being successful in CS if that other stuff doesn't pan out as a career?
>>25340139
I think it's that your post was weapons grade autism
>>25336280
How do I learn programming most effectively? How did you learn?
>>25336256
>slave
>doesnt work
wagecucks are really delusional
I want to study Philosophy but I don't have any interest in law, or really anything else besides literature or history. Am I fucked? Is there any compromise?
>>25341139
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0T0SvtDcl7o
well damn
I bet you are a pedo though
>>25347500
puny goy, you cant escape my shills
>>25349554
>tfw if you mention going on 8ch for any reason, everyone thinks you're a pedophile
t-their /g/ is actually pretty g-good.
>>25336114
I fell for the trades meme. Actually did it because it was spouted here. Wasted a year in a CC learning welding while feeling superior to all my peers who went to college and got degrees.
Worked for two months after getting hired. I worked in miserable hot conditions and didn't even remotely enjoy my job. Many loud people screamed at me for over ten hour shifts. Shit was terrifying. After the first day I knew there was no way I'd last.
You need to be raised for that sort of thing. Almost no one here actually has the constitution to be able to do trades, and I can't understand why you'd want to anyway. It breaks your body and your will.
It was a good experience in retrospect; I take college very seriously now after working hard then. Engineering major is a joke after those two months welding.
You get paid decent initially (sometimes) but you are getting fucked for it. Don't fall for the trades meme.
>>25336136
youre supposed to network when youre a business major... definitely not for robots
>>25336281
>all math/science majors
Soft sciences like biology, psychology, sociology, etc (if you even want to call them sciences) are only good if you go to grad school and even then you'd be better off with a 4 year degree in math or engineering
>>25336353
>If you don't have connections then economics is a waste
JUST
>>25337919
i did it and now i make $15/hr designing websites and managing mysql databases.i graduated in june
Currently cucking for IT.
I just want to do something non-social for more than 35k yr, but I'm not autistic enough for CS / coding, I found that out after a year. I'm working as a general contractor and actually enjoying learning these things, but don't want to break my back or get a tan forever.
What's architecture or Financial Analyst looking like? I notice most CFA's and architects got in through daddy connections and didn't truly strike out on their own until they had a few years experience.
Am I wasting my time? Should I just break out the helium tank now?
>>25350982
>architecture
lol literally one of the worst fields you could go into for the past 20 years
>financial analyst
lol good luck unless you're top uni with connections and top grades
>>25336594
geez me she's prettttyy.
>>25350316
Welding is redneck and nigger work unless you're on an oil rig or you work in an upper class city. You shoulda gone with the plumber meme, I make 50k a year and I'm only 21.
>>25336393
>emergency medicine unless you're using it as a stepping stone to real medicine
What are you on about? EM is already an end specialty. How do people step from EM to "Real Medicine"? The median EM income where I live is 275k and they work less hours than most specialties, what's worthless about it?
>>25340799
this girl who was the Legally Blonde Elle Woods of my high school is a legit Washington DC lobbyist. most confusing shit ever. i like to imagine her blowing Paul Ryan.
>>25337625
Political Science
Psychology
literally WHY would you put yourself through that
Lit
>>25340767
>I didn't watch the whole video
I hope you aren't a stem major.
I got accepted to a mid-tier masters program for political science. How much is my shit going to be fucked up?
>>25351472
Go into law.
It's the only way.
>>25347308
I'm getting 6k to go to college which will pay for the entire semester :^] enjoy those tendies anon
>>25340917
do you have any advice for getting into schools like princeton?
>>25340165
I need something like this for non-STEM videos.
>>25349393
Try code cademy
>>25340829
Stop cursing so much it makes you sound childish
Thoughts on Information Systems (IS)? I've heard it's the next big meme and i am completely willing to do it and put in the necessary effort to succeed at it.
>>25340799
If you get into a T14 and get good grades, you should be able to find a job. If you go to HYS, you're pretty much guaranteed a job unless you majorly fuck up.
>>25349471
>not a slave
>can't leave whenever he wants
>will quite literally die without aid
>even entry level job wages will leave him dead
>forced to do what his parents/government tell him
>not realizing he's the most slave-y out of all the slaves
>bad at math
>doomed to a shitty salary or no job at all
You're going to die very soon, why would you waste your short amount of time on this planet doing stupid bullshit that doesn't matter?
>>25336399
>biology
Do I just give up on being a doctor bros?
>>25354954
How likely is it for you to get into med school?
>>25348410
economics is a worthless degree unless you go to a top 20 school, but you could major in anything at a top 20 school and get a good job.
is Human Resource Development a meme major?
it seems pretty in-demand and high paying
>>25342287
i have a math degree, too. graduated with a 3.8 GPA now i make $35k/yr doing manual labor in a factory on swing shift. going back for my masters in accounting in the fall semester because i'll kill myself before i do manual labor for another year.
math is the ultimate meme degree. it is ABSOLUTELY worthless unless you study statistics or actuarial mathematics at a good school.
>>25355002
I need more clinical hours, but after that I think I'm in a really good position. I live in a state that's really good for in-state admissions and could easily get into any DO school with my numbers if I have to go that way
>>25355159
In that case keep going at it Dr. Anon. God speed.
I'm doing Journalism next semester. Am I fucked? Since I broke out of NEETdom I'm not as much of a social sperg as I used to be, and my writing is still decent.
Doing anything mathematical is a fucking chore for me, a lot of what I already know has been learned through repetition and I can't stand using computers/technology for anything other than vidya. Admittedly, learning about Economics seems pretty interesting but I just love writing articles/essays and trashing people like an arrogant cunt from behind a screen/pen.
>non-normie
>studying law
Did I dun goof'd? I'm shit at maths and PoliSci+International Relations seemed to meme-y.
>>25355372
Yeah, you're fucked. That's even worse than an English major. But if you enjoy it etc etc.
>>25355581
I'm a barristerwith social anxiety, you'll be fine.
>>25355581
No you're fine, as long as you're ok with being a wagecuck just like everyone else. You do realise that only the -bergs and -steins or natural born elite WASPs make it big in law right?
And by fine, I do mean working in any entry level job that will take you (almost definitely not in your field). I know my state churns out thousands of law graduates a year with only a couple of hundred jobs being available for them.
You've chosen to put in some effort into a field that requires it but does not reward you for this. Most law students I know of have needed to go back for a second degree afterwards...and are still unemployable because they obviously have never had a job and are in their mid 20's.
>>25336893
Any CS job will be taken by Panjeet before they ever consider a White male who wants expensive benefits.
>>25355159
yeah make sure you REALLY want to study medicine before you waste thousands of dollars applying to med school. i'm this >>25355133
guy and i attended med school for a semester until i dropped out to wagslave in a factory. it is an absolutely MISERABLE field of study, medicine, even in the pre-clinical years.
>>25355675
I'm eastern yuropoor tho.
>>25355764
Can't speak to second world countries and their job markets pham. How desperate are people to get into it? How many people take it? Are people scrambling to get into it?
This should be an indicator for you, if everyone is dying to get into this uni course, in 5 years the job market will be saturated, but dumbfucks will still fight each other for spots.
