Wage cuckery
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Why is 40+ hour work week necessary to keep one's self alive? Add on commuting and sleep, it leaves one with little time to explore or discover one's talents. Hours wasted sedentarily sitting in an office or watching TV after being drained of energy at work could have been spent learning to fly an airplane or another language. It seems only those born into extreme privilege will get to experience this true freedom. A regular person would have to work to the brink of death before he is financially secure enough to break free. By that time he is old and his body broken.
What will it take to free everyone from work?
This is why I embrace NEETdom, if I only had to work 20 hours a week I wouldn't give a shit. But to dedicate your entire life to menial crap you couldn't give a shit about is pretty gay.
>>25333577
I want to work 3 days a week, that would be awesome.
I don't even spend half the money i make in 40 hours a week, and im not some kid living at home.
24 hours of money would cover everything I need and let me save a bit and buy cool shit every now and again.
The truth is that if everything had gone right during the first 22~ years of your life you wouldn't need to worry about working in a cubicle 40 hours a week. You would living in a nice suburban home, designing bridges or houses for a living, going to the office a few days a week for meetings, with plenty of vacation time, travelling around the world on business, being invited to conventions and such to present your work etc
>>25333577
>40 hour work week?
I remember my first part time job
>>25333577
If I didn't work, I'd kill myself 2bh. Work is the only thing that distracts me from the loneliness and bitterness.
>>25333784
this really baited me hard
>>25333805
>bragging about working more than 40 hours a week
I'm sure you're making mr. Shekelstein proud, junior!
Because you're a slave
I have difficulties making my spare time fun. Sometimes even a weekend can feel like a torturously long time. If i didn't work, I'd go crazy, and likely drink myself to death. I tried being NEET before, and it's not for me. NEET life starts out amazing, but it quickly becomes a depressing prison.
>>25333858
This desu. I'm a teacher so of course I get holidays and summer off. I go through a cycle every time:
>anticipation, super excited leading up
>last day of school I suddenly get melancholy as coworkers talk about what they're doing during the break
>I know all I'll be doing is fapping, vidya and shitposting (voluntarily, but still)
>up and down throughout break as I find something to keep me occupied, then finish it/get bored and again start ruminating on how empty I am without something to busy myself
>school approaches again
>half wanting the break to continue and half ready to feel fulfilled again
>first day back
>everyone's miserable, I'm super happy
I imagine it'll get worse when literally every one I know has a family and stops vidyaing so I lose my only non-work social outlet. It's already begun, three of my good buddies hardly even communicate anymore unless it's about some kind of family get-together.
>>25333577
if only i had to work just 40 h a week... that would have been great
yeah, working 40+ hrs a week sucks. thats why im gonna start moonlighting as a hentai artist soon.
>>25333942
I'd kill myself even if I were a teacher. I can handle about 2 weeks off before I start wanting to throw myself off the roof. Having the whole summer off...I'd descend into alcoholism in about a month.
>>25333894
I hate people's who say dumb shit like this, or variants of it like "oh even if I won the lottery, I'd still go to work just to have something to do."
Shut the fuck up. How could you say you have nothing to do? How could you get bored if you have enough money that you can spend your time however you like? Is your mind so warped by society shoving "get a job" down your throat your entire life that you're literally incapable of imagining a life that isn't structured around working 40 hours per week?
(Again, this is assuming you have money and aren't a deadbeat NEET leech)
>work 8 hours
>sleep 8 hours
>play 8 hours
>24 hours
Seems fine to me. Even when you add in commute times, showering, etc, you're still left with 5-6 hours of recreation time every single day.
I'm lucky in that my commute is only 10 minutes each way and I work in an office, so my energy levels haven't really budged by the time I get off work.
>>25333894
Literally the textbook definition of wagecuck
>>25333577
Modern technology is rapidly making our economic model obsolete. We don't need this many people around anymore.
Expect a massive cull within the next century, either by war or widespread poverty, or both. That was their plan all along.
>>25334048
>>work 8 hours
>>sleep 8 hours
>>play 8 hours
>>24 hours
You forgot about time that you need to prepare yourself for work, arrive to work, come back from work and do your chores in your home to keep it clean.
But I guess you are still very young and full on family support so you can allow yourself to go to "work" not shaved and you probably are not cleaning your room ever
>>25333942
I'm interested in how mych time you spend grading papers or whatever outside of classtime, do you have much free time after school or on the weekends? What grade do tou teach?
I wouldn't mind going to work if I could get some help for my depression and I didn't deal with assholes all day.
>>25333805
did you work at UPS?
>>25334048
>work 8 hours
>sleep 8 hours
>waking/showering 1 hour
>commuting to/from work 1 hour
>cooking and eating (all meals) 2 hours
>tidying / chores / washing dishes 2 hours
>to tired to do anything you enjoy 2 hours
kek
>>25334157
Actually live on my own. And like I said in my last post, I've accounted for all those small things. They all take 3-5 minutes each, at most.
Cleaning the house I just do every other Saturday, which always takes slightly less than an hour. The rest of the weekend past that is open for whatever I want.
Any other questions?
>>25334048
>Be at work 9 hours factoring in 30 minute lunch and the average 30 minutes I have to stay over
>Drive to work about 35 minutes there and another 35 back.
>Get home at 7, sleep by 11.
>Wake up at 6 dreading my awful work stats (Call center, my call time is too long) and fear of being fired. Be at work half an hour early to prevent being late due to traffic.
That comes to about 4 hours of "recreation" time where I hate myself for not managing it well between family, friends and alone time. The weekends hit and I dread going back. Every first day of the work week I have a panic attack and want to kill myself. I hate this life I made for myself.
>three jobs
>worked 85 hours this week
>worked Christmas and all of the weekend
>tfw I am the incarnation of Scroodge
>mfw I love it!
>>25333577
Hey man
did you know
the truth is
we don't NEED to work for that many hours, at least in first world countries? It's just how the system is built. If wealth was distributed properly and the 1% were not profiting more and more off the masses, the average workweek would be 20 hours long. Of course, a wagecuck will always be a wagecuck (and that's OK, or the system would not work), but the amount of cuckoldry has literally gotten ridiculous.
>>25334247
Scrooge was rich you are literally a wage slave
>>25334231
>Cleaning the house I just do every other Saturday
You must live in a swamp and look like an ogre than.
Cleaning my place 2 times a week is barely enough to keep it clean.
>>25333577
>not being competent and specialized enough in your field to charge hundreds for your time
>>25334229
you are taking far too long to do all of those things
>>25334279
>implying I'm not ballin and work for fun
>>25334247
except scrooge was rich and didn't do shit.
you are a wageslave, toiling around for shekelstein, goldberg, and glutonschwartz with no free time to enjoy the table scraps your masters throw to you. i feel really sad that you embrace this existence.
>>25333577
Hey man its cool, I want things to be this way! I WANT to be a 25 year old virgin, working 50+ hrs a week for little over minimum wage. I like this. I like not being able to go outto bars because of anxiety issues and inexperience, This os my choice!
I am in my 30s and still live with my mom. I am technically self-employed but earn basically nothing and my income is supplemented by very small government benefits. I am admittedly miserable as fuck yet after much careful cost-benefit analysis, I cannot find a good reason to enter back into the traditional workplace. For all intents and purposes, I am a 30+ NEET and intend to stay that way.
40 hours a week. The early mornings. Sitting for an hour in gridlock on a packed bus every morning and evening (and paying a big chunk out of my wages for the privilege). No time or energy for any meaningful hobby. A gun to the head from the government who take a large chunk of my meagre wage by force. Every remaining penny spent on renting a one room shithole of an apartment or to share a run down house with a bunch of normies. No hope of ever owning a home. No hope of ever having financial freedom. No disposable income left whatsoever. No thanks.
I will never have independence. I will never have a girlfriend. I will never have a meaningful social life. I will never be "happy" as defined by societal norms (mortgage, decent car, wife and kids). But fuck it, I've got my mind. I've got the internet. I've got porn (and very soon VR porn) and hookers. I've got video games and Kodi and my Kindle packed with an endless supply of literature. I've got nature and the outdoors to enjoy. Its not life as we know it or that most decent people aspire to. But its a fairly decent distraction. And thats good enough for me.
>>25334215
anyone here work for UPS?
>>25334480
I'm an application developer for UPS. Entire office is empty since everyone took off for new years.
I'm just spending all day shitposting and reading books.
I make 135k/yr. Its a lot of fucking money, I honestly only ever spend a third of the pay, and thats more than generous for myself. Everyone I know thinks I should be greatful and happy, but its the shittiest thing in the world. I don't have the choice in my industry to work less for less money. Its 100% or 0%. If I want to work 4 days a week for 100k, nope fuck you. Its $10/hr for 10 hours or $60change for 50. No middle ground.
I just want some time to go be sociable or go for a walk or something, but no. Why would you ever want to not be in the office 24/7? Wake up 8am, rush in, get home at 9pm, be so mentally drained I just end up lying down and pissing my life away on this shit site or playing the same old games I played 10 years ago because I'm too tired to learn any new ones. Spend all of Saturday exhausted and asleep, spend half of Sunday doing chores and maybe I get 4 hours to myself in a week, during which literally no one ever wants to hang out because they're also tired and getting ready for the week, and I'm still too tired to build up a hobby or anything. So more 4chan or shit TV and games. Constant depression from being isolated and inside all day, only seeing the sun on the drive to work, no time to go even run basic errands through the week, let alone see a doctor or anything about it. Constant anxiety that I'm not doing enough at work and I need to get more shit done to not get fired, or that I make ONE LITTLE MISTAKE and everyone I know/work with thinks I'm an idiot for the rest of my life.
At least its better than my last job, pays a little better and I get at home 9pm instead of 1am, and its just 5 days a week, and people are less dick. Still procrastinate going to sleep and going to work though. The thought of hauling yourself in every day is the most depressing shit ever. Enjoy doing that for 40 years, then you die.
At least I make enough money that I can think about retiring a few years early if I don't kill myself or work to death first.
>>25334157
Roll out of bed.
15 mins and I'm at work.
Shit shower shave at work.
Work till lunch.
Lunch is free at work.
Goof off till end of day
Grab a beer with the lads.
Walk home
Clean house drunk.
It's 6pm.
Stay up til 1am.
Every day.
Get a better life.
>>25334792
Tl,dr: Its so fucking bullshit how its either 50+ hours, great money but you kill yourself for it, or part time minimum wage where they don't pay you even respect.
I'd be perfectly fine taking a sizable pay cut for another day off in a week, but thats seen as lazy as fuck and piece of shit, not just by management, but your peers and society as large. I spent 110 hours a week in the library in college working for my degree, not even time to go to class, completely ignoring having fun, girlfriend, social life, nah, that comes later. Work hard now, it pays off in the future. Only I go get my job and aint no one interested in being social after college, its hard as shit to meet girls away from tinder/okstupid/we, which is inorganic and shit for your ego, and I don't even have time to build anything cool. You spend your whole life ignoring everything that makes life good, then you get your diploma, next day you just have to forget to be human and be a good worker bee. Buy a giant house you don't need or spend more than sleeping time at, buy a brand new BMW every year you drive 20 min to work and back at most. Thats whats supposed to make you happy or something.
Abreit macht frei.
>>25333577
What's the story with this picture? Why is she crying? Is the whale ok? It should be in water!
8 hour work days plus a mandatory hour for lunch means I wake up at 7 and leave the shitty sharehouse I live in at 8 and walk in the rain to the subway and get on the packed train and get to work at 9 nervous about being late then stare at a fucking computer screen in an open-plan office until lunch then I go to lunch and have a minimum of two beers and come back and work again until 6--the afternoon is so much worse than the morning--and come home in the dark for most of the year and maybe go for a run or workout usually just proceed to get truly and properly shitfaced and go to bed then wake up hungover for the next round. Getting addicted to xanax. Just workout and drink and shitpost on the weekends because there's no time to travel or even hang out with friends sans alcohol because everyone else is poor and tired too. Make 36k a year for this hell.
>>25333858
Same. I have a a really good job: great salary, bonuses plus my own investments. My job and financial situation are probably the only things in my life I ever did right. I could retire now and just keep investing the money I have, but I'd be giving up my only success in life.
>>25334229
>all wagecucks have to rush to work!
>1 hour waking up + showering
>all wagecucks force feed!
>2 hours total making and eating meals
Make up your minds, NEETs
>>25333858
It's kind of the same for me.
I quit my job last summer so I could go back to school, and I can't believe how much I actually miss it. There were so many terrible things about my job, but now I don't know what to do with my time, and I miss going in and doing something I'm good at and having people respect me for it.
Stop moaning and get back to work!
>>25333600
You can work part-time you know.
Just get a job when you don't have to actually work and can just do what you want on your shift. Security is one such job people mention.
>>25333577
>Why is 40+ hour work week necessary to keep one's self alive?
Its not. If I ever got a job again I'd refuse to work more than 32 hours.
>Add on commuting and sleep, it leaves one with little time to explore or discover one's talents.
This was true for me when I last worked, and for a great many I assume. Leaving for work to returning takes up half the day, and too tired to do anything except browse 4chan, watch TV, masturbate, etc. in the maybe 3 hours free time per day, days off you have to buy food, prepare food, do laundry, and whatever else you need to do.
>Hours wasted sedentarily sitting in an office or watching TV after being drained of energy at work could have been spent learning to fly an airplane or another language.
To be honest, my NEET life involves wasting hours shitposting on 4chan, masturbating and watching TV, not learning any useful/applicable/productive skills. But its a helluva lot more fun than being a retail or office slave.
>It seems only those born into extreme privilege will get to experience this true freedom. A regular person would have to work to the brink of death before he is financially secure enough to break free. By that time he is old and his body broken.
Winning the lottery is the only way out. I live to win the lottery. It simply must happen. There is no other way. I have no agency to affect financial improvement in my life other than to win money gambling. If I had a job and managed to keep it, which is very unlikely, it would just be a mare pittance I would use to pay for my basic expenses, keep buying lottery tickets, and stop draining my inheritance money. Fuck work, I want freedom, which is both time and money. Give it to me now, Jesus, Allah and Hashem.
>>25335942
You won't win the lottery. Your best chance is to learn a life skill that you actually enjoy. And then find a way to commercialize it.
I don't mind working, I just hate having to wake up early as fuck.
>>25336060
I refer you to a screencap of my own post.
In general, for the vast majority of people, things that are enjoyable and profitable are not compatible. At least not in an urban first world environment where hundreds of people apply for every job opening, and hundreds of independent freelance whatevers compete for one client.
Everything is fucked. In the end, careercucks and wagecucks are just as fucked as NEETs, only they will have wasted their lives slaving away for the capitalist elite instead of enjoying leisure time.
I simply must win the lottery, it is the only way to live. I reached this conclusion over a year before I heard of Elliot Rodger, so it was in no way inspired by him, but I was astounded to find he reached the same conclusion, namely that there is nothing he can ever be good at or interested in enough to be able to make a living off of, and the mediocrity of a careercuck is not an acceptable lifestyle. Although he seemed to have been well connected and could have had lots of other opportunities, be me gambling is literally the only thing I can do. I have no land, no property, no car, no resources, no nothing to work with, and I can't do anything that requires immense ass-time except passively learn things through reading and watching videos. Sitting and staring at a screen is bad for health and I am working to reduce the time spent doing this more and more, so forget about telling me to learn programming, webdev, affiliate marketing MLM circlejerk referral scams, etc
I work for the government and they let us telework. really takes the edge off of being a wagekuk. plus you get a bunch of holidays and leave throughout the year. my commute sucks ass though.
>>25335942
lottery wasn't made so you could "win" it
you will never win at lotery
>>25336665
well how do you deal with the live versus money problem then? Given the absurdity of my own situation I take a curiousity in asking others how they make a living, and how they cope with having to work their whole life away just to survive.
>>25336718
Simple. You just don't work. Feels good living in a welfare state.
>>25336506
Lottery was designed as a way to get the cash from the dumber well fare recipients back into government hands.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/05/31/poor-people-spend-9-of-income-on-lottery-tickets-heres-why/
>>25334244
Lmfao. Threads like this are hilarious.
I made $160k last year from my online business (commission sales), and about $25k from my home business (computer repair).
This is with severe depression/fat/autism. And i mostly sit around and smoke weed, cry about nothing for no reason.
Lol @ people relying on wage slavery to survive.
Lol @ people who are too dumb to develop their own interests during their FREE TIME.
>>25337033
>I made $160k last year from my online business (commission sales)
Show me how? Or is it just you getting lucky with one of those
>>25336506
>affiliate spam marketing SEO MLM circlejerk adlink clickbait referral scams, etc
>>25335028
She's crying because that whale is not big enough to feed her family.
>>25334646
Very nice. CS degree?
