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>run a cosplay/beauty blog and youtube channel
>making a new cosplay every few months and attending 3 cons a year is getting expensive so start a Patreon page
>get roughly $400-$550 a month
>80% of the donators are middle aged men
>20% are rich guys in their 20's from foreign countries

I'm glad I'm getting support, but I feel weird that the majority of my supporters aren't my target audience (female college students). I look at the profiles of guy that do donate and they don't really seem to be into anime , beauty, fashion, or cosplay that much. I do make up tutorials and skincare/beauty product reviews. No middled aged guy would be interested in that.
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>boo boo I get free money for having a vagina
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>>25328910
>oh why ins't chad paying attention to me
>these creppy guys are staring at me,i want cute guys staring at me not creeps
suck it up bitch,chad ins't always there for you to suck his cock
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>>25328971

Imagine working hard on an art piece and all somehow has to say is 'you're so hot' or 'nice muscles'
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Sounds like a bait thread. But if you mean it, count your blessings.
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>>25328910
Fuck off you manipulative roast beef cunt
You're manipulating and exploiting men for your own personal gain
You know exactly what you're doing, but you want to have you cake and eat it by complaining too

Just kill yourself already, but since I know you won't, fuck off and never come back to this board ever again
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>>25329035
There are normal people who like what you do but they aren't rich enough to pay you.
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>>25328910
it's how it goes, you don't think other channels like you don't get the same thing ? the only difference is they are expanding so they deal with it and as they expand they hit their targeted audiences.
you gotta start somewhere
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>>25329035
It's cosplay
It's not fuckingn art at all
It's a way for vapid teenage girls to try to get some nerdy chads attention at cons
Makeup and putting on slutty outfits is not art no matter how you define it, it'd be like me going to a weight lifting competition and complaining when people say "hey, those big muscles are sexy"
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>>25328910
That sucks dude. People are weird and uncomfortable on the internet.
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>>25329097
>taking an analogy literally and then getting angry about it
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>>25329069

I just think it's weird that there's old guys out there that donate money to young women who they have nothing in common with. I'd understand it a bit more if these old guys were old otaku or something. But these are just your average middle aged men into sports, beer, bitching about their wives, and
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>>25329035
>cosplay
>art
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>>25329131
you know why they are there, you gotta deal with it if you truly enjoy your work
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>>25329131
>But these are just your average middle aged men into sports, beer, bitching about their wives, and jerking off to young women in costumes on the internet
Fixed. I guarantee that's why they're donating.
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>>25329121
>I called it art in an analogy so I can't be criticized for calling cosplay art when it's not
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>>25329097

Cosplay is art.

It's craftsmanship, modeling, performance, and photography
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>>25328910
The whole cosplay fame thing isn't worth it, in my experience.

My exgf is a cosplayer that I won't name, but that has 350k FB fans, a patreon, twitch channel, all that shit. She was making a grand or so a month off of patreon and print sales (90% of which are photos I took, despite the fact that it's been 3 years since I last shot with her), and it's not worth the constant death threats, lewd comments, stalking, hackers trying to get personal info, suicide notes, weird marriage offers, etc that she got.

Cosplay for fun and make your money on a real job.

>>25329054
>Fuck off you manipulative roast beef cunt
I'm only even mentioning this because I'm drunk as fuck, but lol, my ex was a total innie (one of the only good things about her) and she was actually insecure about it because porn girls are all roasties and she thought guys were into that.
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>>25329172
Yes, that's how analogies work.

I'm not even the person who started the thread, you butt-flustered silly goose.
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>>25328910

There's something in here for you, I promise

>pic related
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>>25329035
You could always take the patreon down and decline donations
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>>25328910
The only people you interest enough to monetarily support you are lonely middle aged men and rich sandniggers who are obsessed with qt white/asian girls who share their interests and hope one day you will meet them in real life and fuck them.

Don't like it? Then either do something else or complain about how female college students don't care enough about you to give you money.
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>>25329173
It's not any of that
It's softcore pornography that dumb birches call art so they can scam money off nerds and pretend like they're not a whore
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>>25329303
Just a sidenote for this, if you're in the position OP posted, never meet up with one of those foreign supporters if you aren't going to put out unless you want to be raped and possibly murdered for saying no
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>>25329200

I think about quitting my Youtube channel because of the harassment. I have a boyfriend now and I constantly worry about some crazy 'fan' trying to stalk him to do something to him. I constantly worry about the safety of my friends and family because my real name isn't too hard to find on the Internet. I made a promise that once anything too crazy or some stalker endangers the lives of others that I will quit Youtube. Despite all of the bad, it's really nice knowing that dozens of people out there genuinely like your content and it's nice meeting people that say that you inspire them to get into cosplay or how your tutorials helped them out or how your videos helped people get through dark times.
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>>>/cgl/
>>>tumblr
>>>lolcow
Stop raiding our board
You know this doesn't belong here, yet you still posted this bait thread anyways
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>>25329306

Porn is a performance art.
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>>25329306
It's a combination of this and of girls literally being so oblivious that they don't see it.

I'm an ex-"famous" cosplay photographer (pics published in books and mags from Japan, people did fanart of my shit, 2chan threads with insane numbers of posts, Japanese cosplayers copying my photos, etc.), so I know pretty well what the scene is like.
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>>25329397
what's the weirdest person you've dealt with in that scene? I imagine there's a few.
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>>25329363
oh, god, now that I look at your posts, I really hope you're not my ex.

You're not famous for cosplaying Saber, are you?
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>>25329363
Fuck off our board bitch
This isn't the place to talk about this

I know you want to make us all feel like shit because you're a dumbass neet teenage girl who has money thrown at her for existing as a woman
But this isn't the place
Now scram
And never fucking come back
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Why do women have a talent for finding things to complain about and never being content with what they have?
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>>25329421
waaaah

a bloo blo bloo

This is basically /b/ despite what you think it's "culture" is
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A lot of cosplay girls are kind of ugly or decent looking without their make up. A lot of cosplay girls have self-image issues or some sort of mental illness. Any cosplay girl has had an emotional break down at a con once.
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>>25328910

>complains about getting money for free
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>>25329418
Probably a guy, actually. Dude invited me to join his photographer cabal a while back, I decided it wasn't worth it, but we kept in touch.

Dude just got fucked three ways from sunday for soliciting nudes from minors in the creepiest, weirdest ways possible, and the scary thing is that it worked in a lot of cases. (It was some shit like "if you send me nudes before we do a shoot, you'll know that you've shown me everything and won't hold back for the actual shoot.")

Otherwise, it was just girls being petty and constant backstabbing. I unfriended one over her bullshit a few years before my breakup, and she started spamming requests again as soon as the breakup went public. She was decently cute, now that it's been 3 years and I haven't gotten laid, I kind of wish I'd accepted and tapped that shit.
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>>25329447
Fuck off back to lolcow and cgl and stop trying to are shit up
Me and the other people here already hate women enough without you bitches coming in and making everything worse
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>>25329420

If I were, I'd probably not admit it here since I like having my 4chan posts not being connected to me in real life. I kind of like having a place to discuss things anonymously. I know my ex posts on 4chan too.
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>>25329035
first, putting on clothes is not "art"
and second, I'd be happy to be getting attention and money for something I made for any reason
sage for your shitty thread, won't even post a train because you don't deserve it
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>>25329447
Not him, but wouldn't this have been a better topic to post on /cgl/? Since its relevant to their board.
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ROASTIE WHORES PLS LEAVE
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>>25329528
It would but then it wouldn't be here to piss off robots would it?
Chances are OP isn't even real, and this is all made up to push the "fembot" meme and bait for replies
Dunno why kids haven't deleted it yet, they've been pretty good recently about deleting fembot threads lately
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>>25328910
you're not working in fashion or beauty. Cosplay is nerd porn. That's what you are, that is your audience, start pandering for cash or gtfo.
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>>25329453
My ex was actually stunning in normal life. Obviously makeup helps, but she was still adorable.

Cosplay is what fucked her up. The very confidence that attracted me to her was destroyed by the constant attention after pics I and some others took went viral, and eventually gave way to insecurity and alcoholism and the disintegration of our relationship.

>>25329493
I just hope you're not R.S. who used to date M.S., that'd be awkward as fuck.
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OP I'm sure this'll sound terrible, but usually young college students won't give away money for nothing, especially ones into expensive things like cosplay.

Old white men waste money, they'll spend it on any fucking thing, and they're a loud minority of your fans.
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>>25329575
Yeah that makes sense, I highly doubt any e-celeb cosplayer would browse /r9k/ maybe /cgl/ or /b/ but not /r9k/
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>>25329613

okay. that makes sense then.
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this thread is ass fucking shit
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>>25329690

What is that image?

Is that how you force feed a chubby?
New fetish unlocked
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>>25329738
>chubby
Hahahahahaha american funny
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Don't know where else to post this, but I've been chatting with a girl online and she's pretty chill, but she's fairly internet famous.

Am I a beta orbiter or is it legitimately possible to platonically share interests with another human female without her finding you gross/weird etc.

Basically does she think I just want to fugg her.
I need to stop drinking, at least this comment is original as fuck (certified)
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>>25329799
Do you want to fuck her, but think "being friends first" will get you into her pants? Then you're a beta orbiter.

Do you just platonically share interests and enjoy talking? Then you're friends.
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>>25329837
But she never messages me first, and while I think she enjoys our conversations I'm too autistic to tell if she is just being nice to keep up a persona / solicit donations etc.

I'm also too beta to ask her about it
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>>25329799

Nah. These e-celebs are just people looking for friendships from people that see them as everyone else. They'll appreciate your company as long as you don't act like a beta or creep. Just don't mention your insecurities or say things like " I don't mean to sound creepy, but..."
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>>25329788

Well, the line between fat and chubby is contingent on how cute the face is. Maybe that slightly intimidated expression the girl has is warping my judgement but I think she's still squarely "chubby"

Now please tell me there's more. I love chubbies and I love feeding, didn't consider you could have both done to an extreme such as force feeding through a funnel.

This is why I stay up late. There must be more.
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>>25329914
>They'll appreciate your company as long as you don't act like a beta

Yeah I'm just gonna kill myself.
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>>25329799
If you're attracted to her, just tell her. She's probably close to as autist as you are.

There's a girl I liked, and she just hooked up with some other clone of me because I didn't make a move, and I regret it.

If you like her, hiding it will just make you miserable.
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>>25329738
It's basically a human feedbag, so you don't have to constantly feed your fat bitch all the time.
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>>25329896

being famous means that she has to deal with tons of 'fans' messaging her along with other friends and people she's working with on projects (photographers, event planning, other cosplayers, sponsors, school, etc) . Or it's just nothing personal since these people rarely do get moments of silence. they can't even sign into Steam or League of Legends without some fan wanting to make small talk.

don't pester them too much or make a big deal about them not messaging you. :)
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>>25330030
>Steam
oh god, this. It's actually funny in retrospect that there were multiple Steam accounts posing as my ex, and a few of them even pulled it off to the extent that they had hundreds of followers giving them free shit, but at the time it was enraging.
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>>25329420
Kek. I've seen you posting before. Why the fuck are you on /r9k/?
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>>25330102
I'm an autist who fell into a relationship by complete coincidence and hasn't been able to get one since breaking up with her.
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>>25330083

Impersonating people on Steam is a serious offense.
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>>25330003

>you don't have to constantly feed your fat babygirl all the time.

BUT ANON, THAT'S ALL I WANT IN LIFE. I love watching women eat, specially when they don't hold back and actually EAT. I swear I developed a crush on a plain looking chubby once just because we had lunch together (we each paid our own food) and she ordered more than me without shame.

>tfw she didn't like me, so she didn't feel a need to make an impression
>she fell asleep on my shoulder due to that food comma, but once that semester ended she didn't respond to my texts
>; (
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>>25329233
Cute. I see what you did there.
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This entire thread :
>being "famous" is so hard :(
>people want to talk to you and give you stuff for existing :(
>this is so dumb
Jesus Christ r9k is right about women
They never have real problems or know what real depression is
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>>25330224

imagine never having a moment of silence or feelings of self-worth despite how hard working you are
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>>25330102
Also, I hate double posting, but shit.

Going from that, to a hellish life of failure where you realize that most of your "friends" only talked to your because they wanted to fuck your girlfriend, to where you meet girls at cons and they seem oddly weird with you until they tell you that they know who you are and who your ex was, where you become a complete pariah because of the rumors and lies that have been told about you in order to protect the reputations of others.

That's how you create a true robot of the kind that KVs will never even be able to understand. In the immortal words of Mega NRG Man, I've been to the top and now I'm Back on the Rocks, a truly destroyed man.
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>>25330297
>In the immortal words of Mega NRG Man, I've been to the top and now I'm Back on the Rocks

You're pretty okay you know that?
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>>25330291
>imagine never having a moment of silence or feelings of self-worth despite how hard working you are

>hard working
>having a vagina is hard working

SHOO SHOO
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>>25330291
>putting on clothes
>hard working
Kek

Besides that, there are tons of ways to have time to yourself if you're "famous", which I doubt these people really are that famous

After being invisible to everyone, having no friends or attention for 20 years
I just find it hilarious that people like you actually think having people like you is a real world problem
Like, this one furry art girl added me on steam once and talked about how hard it was to be a girl and have people want to talk to you the horror, feeling wanted and validated, wow that must suck

I would trade anything in the world to be on any of these girls shoes and I dare to say these are not real problems at all, just some teenage girls over dramatizing something slightly less happy in their lives
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>>25328910
those men are masturbating and fantasizing about you, you're nothing more than a pretty piece of meat they can relieve themselves with.

those men are truly worthless, the same breed of man who pays on camsites, they are so insecure and needy that they feel some sense of power by supporting girls and live for the brief moments of attention they receive for supporting.

OP, I'd you're really what you say you are, never make a video thanking your supporters, never even acknowledge their existence, these men should be killed but the best we can do is to not feed their egos.
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>be ugly talent-less girl
>men still give you money just for existing
>whine about this on fucking /r9k/
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>>25330398
>the same breed of man who pays on camsites
W-what about the breed that doesn't pay on camsites?
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>>25330398
Guess how I can tell you're a roastie.
Go on, guess.
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>>25330397

All that attention makes you feel like you constantly need to put out something good or else you'll lose everyone. You get that constant dread of never being good enough. Not just writer's block, but you reach that plateau where you need to do better, but you just don't have the gumption/skill to perform better. And there's the constant threat of being doxxed. Even if you have a clean record, people spread rumors. Or stalkers go after your friends/family to get info out of you. Or you have to deal with awkward interviews at conventions.
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>>25330398
You're right fattie, they should be killed for giving her money.
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>Geez, you starving Third Worlders think you have it bad? Some days I only eat fast food!
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>>25330564
>any of this being even remotely difficult
How fucking sheltered are you holy shit.
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>>25330397

when you're famous, you become a lot more self-conscious about the things you say online, how you interact with others, and your public appearance. You have to be on the constant look out for not doing anything embarrassing in public . People expect cosplay girls to be pure maidens that don't do drugs, date guys, or have sex. Even when you're just being a normal human being, people will call you a race traitor alcoholic degenerate for fucking a white guy and hanging out at night clubs.
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>>25330628
SHOO SHOO ROAST BEEF

when you make yourself a part of the culture, you sign up for everything that comes with it, not just the paycheck

SHOO SHOO
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>>25330364
Haha, I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing that it makes me happy that my life is so fucked up that robots will say that after I tell an ex story.

I'm listening to that song right now, by the way, and it's insane how much it sums up my goddamn life.

Also how frustrating it is that I live only a few minutes from some awesome twisty roads, and I'm to damn drunk to jump in my car, the last thing I have left that provides some fucking meaning to this life, and attack the shit out of them while bumping this song.

>>25330397
It depends on the cosplayer in question.

I respected the shit out of my ex's cosplay because I watched the hours and hours she spent interpreting designs made by people who knew nothing about actual clothes making, and managing to turn them into patterns that worked in real life, and then having the skill to sew them up into costumes. As many things there are that piss me off about her to this day, as many things that I can criticize, I'll never stop saying that she was one of the most talented costume makers I've ever known, and the awe at her ability to make those costumes will never fade.

Heh. I'm over Fate, I'm over her (despite how it looks here), I'm over all that shit, but I'll never stop taking a bit of joy in how much the way I look back on things suits Shirou's outlook at the end, and how funny it is to me that I went though all those years as a guy whose online name involves "Archer," only to watch her hook up with a guy who cosplays Shirou, and think about how I've already lived the life he's living now.

Life imitates art, I guess.

Speaking of imitating art, I'm still proud as fuck that Japanese cosplayers and photographers ripped off my work, as pictured here.
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>>25330628
>Even when you're just being a normal human being, people will call you a race traitor alcoholic degenerate for fucking a white guy and hanging out at night clubs.

S H O O S H O O
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>>25330564
Try having personality disorders and not talking to anybody for a month. Then when you say hello to a cashier it feels like you forgot how to speak.

Your issues are a joke, get a bf and fuck off. Only he would listen to your babbling
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>>25330716
tfw you talk to yourself after a while so you never have this problem.
I'm winning guys.
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>>25330780

>talk to real person
>have to understand what a person is saying while studying context and thinking of how to properly respond
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>>25330564
>>25330628
This just seems like an awful lot of bullshit
Women making things 10x harder than it had to be
Or maybe it's because cosplayers are neets with no other job skills and if they fuck up once they're out and on the streets
If that's the case, then it's their fault for not developing skills instead of sleeping around and having fun at cons

No sympathy for it
Being a cosplay slut is easy as fuck and they have no reason to be stressed or depressed when everything is provided for them and they have hundred of fans who like them for them

No sympathy when I basically don't exist and have never gone out with friends or really had fun
None at all, it's like you sluts are telling some starving kid in Africa that you you're just like him because sometimes you eat too much and you feel like shit
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>>25330687
M U H D I K K
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>>25330673
You will lose your virginity and day now! Keep at it!
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>>25330827

>be cosplay slut
>try to be as neutral and nice as possible
>try to keep my personal life out of my cosplay life as much as possible
>people still talk shit and start rumors and dox you because they found some old posts from you from a forum you posted in 7 years ago

I've had friends that just started a Youtube page and already had their first Twitch stream raided. She didn't even have 1000 subscribers or 500 followers on Twitter.
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>>25330905
>be cosplay slut
post nudes
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>>25330957

I don't mean that I'm actually a slut, but that I'm a girl that cosplays and is somewhat e-famous.
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>>25330986
Do you realize that the last part of that sentence contradicts the first?
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>>25330905
Wow it must be so hard for you to be loved by people and have all this influx of donations and cash for doing a hobby and having a vagina

For real though, this all seems like a joke to me
I would trade everything for that life, appreciation, everything
But you dumb bitches and sluts can't appreciate it becuase you always want more more more
My Twitter has 1 follower
I have 20 friends on Facebook
My twitch has been going for 3 years and has 25 followers
I literally never talk to a human being throughout he say and no one cares or has ever cares besides the once a week call from my mom telling me to stop being sad and to not kill myself
That's it, some days I go so long without speaking or hearing a voice that all that comes out of my mouth is creaking and groaning

And you and your cgl and lolcow raiding buddies have the fucking audacity to come in here to my board and compare your non-problems to mine? It ducking makes me sick
It makes me mad
It frustrates the hell out of me that someone could be so fucking ungrateful and naive to any semblance of real world problems
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>>25331035

All because a girl cosplays, it doesn't mean she constantly cosplays sexy characters and even if she did, it doesn't make her a slut.
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>>25331090
All cosplayers are sluts
They get off from the attention and try to use it to meet con chads
They all have nudes floating around becuase it takes no time at all to go from that to softcore porn

Even if they aren't full on boobs in your face, they're still sluts anon
Go back to your little hugbox on cgl if you can't handle the big bad robots telling you the truth
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>>25331130

Con Chads are usually pretty gross guys that are even more of a sociopath than the typical cosplay girl.
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>>25330878
arguing with holes 101 shoo shoo now
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>>25328910
>>25329035
>Cosplay
>art
No, the artist is the original designers for the characters you're cosplaying.

You're just an attentionwhoring piece of shit that's trying to make yourself 2D
die, shitty 3D fleshbag. Don't you dare bring another waifu into the 3D world.

I hope you cut yourself knowing that you'll never be as pretty as the waifus you cosplay.
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>>25331130
>Go back to your little hugbox on cgl
Speaking of cgl, that place is so shit now. They used to be pretty metal, valued having the right body type, shunned people who were shit, and were in general legitimately passionate about what they did. (I'm /fa/ so I crossposted their asking for advice on how to make/fix/tailor clothes)

Now it's a fucking let's all be happy and love each other who the fuck cares tee hee shithole

fuck cgl.
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>>25331195
Doesn't stop cosplay sluts from putting on fancy dresses to try to get their attention
You can say all you want about them being greasy
But I've read the cgl posts
I know what you sluts do at cons
And it sure isn't art
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I don't mind meeting fans, but I really dislike hugs and shaking hands. I'm a bit of a germophobe and don't like touching others. I think it's really weird to ask someone for a hug. hugs are for friends and family. A hug between strangers is reserved for
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>im attractive
>people give me money for minimal amounts of "work" and "effort"
>im semi internet famous
>my life is better than 99% of people in the world
>waaahhhhhhh my life is so hard, people only like me because im a girl, please feel sorry for me!!!!! :((((

you should try suicide
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