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Opinion on this game, /r9k/? Is athletics a bad skill to have?
>>25304212
Vanilla Oblivion is a fucking abomination. Fortunately one autistic dude (who is now employed by by them apparently) took it upon himself to reprogram it so that it actually resembled an elder scrolls game (e.g. Morrowind.)
>>25304284
Better than Skyrim honestly. I thought the main quest was more interesting and the guild quests were far better. Only thing Oblivion did really badly was Cyrodiil itself, where the Imperial City is supposed to be a grand metropolis of thousands and it's like 2 blocks, and how every corner of the map is like a different region smashed together.
Morrowind BTFOs both of them for sure though.
>>25304284
What are you talking about? Name of the mod so I can google it?
>>25304212
The quests were fucking amazing also fuck athletics, its nice to have so you can get around faster but its only really useful if you're an archer or a mage.
>>25304284
>MUH MORROWIND
>>25304330
>I thought the main quest was more interesting and the guild quests were far better.
Thieves Guild was fucking bomb compared to Skyrim's. Skyrim guild quests sucked cock pretty much without an exception and the Oblivion ones were really nice. One of my mages in Oblivion had over 300 hours played on that save whereas in Skyrim I managed only a little over 90 hours total played time before quitting.
>>25304284
>>25304343
https://tesrenewal.com/
this?
>>25304374
Morrowind is bretty gud but it's reaching Earthbound levels of praise. Play Daggerfall instead, the idea of luck and chance is less obnoxious
>>25304284
>oblivion thread
>first post is about morrowind
every time
>>25304374
Morrowind is the GOAT and you know it faggot.
>>25304212
I thoroughly enjoyed it but I doubt I could play it again today
>>25304431
this is now a confession threadnever played desu
>>25304423
wow I don't even disagree with you, but you sound like a colossal faggot.
How should I make my class, guys?
>>25304212
>tfw bought Oblivion as soon as it came out when I was 14
>played it on my new Xbox 360
>sunk nearly 300 hours into it
It had great quests and was maximum comfy. I wish something could entertain me and capture my imagination like that again.
>>25304459
How so? If you don't mind me asking f@m
I really could never find the appeal of these games. I got bored after going to fetch something or eradicating something in a dungeon for 50th time.
>>25304451
you're missing out I still play it today, It's pretty hard to play vanilla morrowind desu but that's why you should download some mods
>>25304490
Not him but you came dangerously close to using the term "dice-roll combat". I can tell. You were actually thinking about it when you were typing that post up. Faggot.
>>25304464
>asking for Oblivion character build advice here
Jesus. First of all, look it up elsewhere. Secondly, never pick shit skills like Athletics or Stealth as your main core skills. Oblivion levelscales enemies and uses your core skills as reference IIRC. This means that if you pick 5 dumb skills in your custom class random bandits will be kicking your shit in for reference.
Thirdly, always pick up spellcasting and definitely Illusion. Melee is perfectly viable but mages are just more fun.
>>25304543
You just have to lose yourself in it. When I would visit a new city I would look around at different stores, pick one and rob it later that night. You have to create a personality and motivations for your character to really get into it.
>>25304562
I don't care about dice roll, in fact I like it, and people who complain about it obviously don't know what they're doing. Use a weapon you're proficient in, and have decent stamina. I more so don't like how alchemy or enchanting is chance.
>>25304464
Sills should be combat oriented. Choose light armor. Do not pick stealth, security, athletics, or acrobatics, since it will fuck up the level scaling. Specialize in illusion and destruction magic.
>>25304607
The dice roll is bullshit though, if I'm within rage of my enemy and pointing my cursor at him and my weapon clearly hits him then I should hit him, fortunately there are mods that can fix that.
>>25304629
>The dice roll is bullshit though
Just don't be a shitter and it's literally a non-issue.
>>25304629
That is the only thing that Oblivion did right. Unfortunately it basically made heavy armor the only viable armor for melee combat, since your opponent ALWAYS hits you.
>>25304629
It's based on tabletop, and it kinda makes sense. Why should be decent a weapon you just picked up that you're not good at? Why should that enemy take damage when he's fucking decked out? Why should you happen to hit him when you're obviously too tired to aim correctly?
>>25304683
You posted my exact thoughts, thanks.
>>25304667
You are the reason TES is a fucking joke now.
whoops, >>25304704 is for >>25304629
>>25304697
No problem. Knowing the game was dice rolls made it easier on me since I first thought my game was broken or something.
>>25304704
I hate how casualized Bethesda has gotten. Looking at the level of depth in Fallout 4 or Skyrim vs Morrowind is just depressing.
I just want another fantasy game for autistic people
>>25304779
>I just want another fantasy game for autistic people
Is Pillars of Eternity a deep RPG like this?
>>25304667
they could have fixed this by actually giving you a good incentive to wear light armor
>>25304683
nailed it. Actual combat is heavily nuanced and complex as fuck, it shouldn't be as simple as trading blows that always hit. IRL. there's quick dodges, subtle shifts in stance and blocking, 'dirty' moves like kicks and headbutts in close, etc. The diceroll simulates the complexities of combat so that only a master swordsman is actually able to consistently effectively hit something. Fucking pleb attitudes have taken the once great Morrowind and diluted it to the bullshit we see in Skyrim
>>25304583
Why not sneak? If I sneak a lot won't I get harder to detect and my sneak attacks do more damage?
>>25304683
Except that when I aim I aim with my fucking cursor, ES games are all about choice I can choose to climb a mountain, pickpocket someone and I should be able to choose where I hit someone
>>25304808
Sneak always succeeds in the sense that as long as you are moving and are undetected you will accumulate experience with the skill. Thus your skill will increase constantly and if you are not careful with levelling you can end up facing extremely strong enemies with no real skills to fight them.
>>25304808
I like being sneaky too, hes just a nerd that wants to use spells desu
>>25304683
Just because it was based on tabletop doesn't mean that it should carry over all of the elements of tabletop games, also I should be able to hit a mudcrab at level one even if I'm shitty at using a dagger when I'm one foot away from it and not have to try to hit it 500 times to actually hit it once. Another big problem with the melee combat is that when you miss your sword still clearly hits you enemy they should have at least put in an animation so that you could see when you miss
>>25304823
>Except that when I aim I aim with my fucking cursor, ES games are all about choice I can choose to climb a mountain, pickpocket someone and I should be able to choose where I hit someone
You are either 12 or a troll.
>>25304704
Morrowind is an amazing game but it still has its flaws the dice roll combat is on e
>>25304808
You can level sneak outside your core classes just fine.
Ultimately the game is about combat and sneak doesn't count for shit when somebody is tossing lightning bolts at your face.
>>25304793
You know, I'm like 40 hours deep into PoE and its pretty good. You have to be cool with the isometric and strategy based combat though. It's definitely an homage but I appreciate the world they tried to create. I heard the expansion was mostly shit though.
>>25304889
Or I'm just someone that can look at Morrowind without nostalgia goggles and realize that it had major flaws like the dice roll combat which didn't make sense to have in the game.
>>25304919
>>25304893
>>25304868
>>25304823
As long as you use weapons that are your major skills and have decent stamina, you should have little problem starting out.
>>25304919
Finding flaws with a 20 year old game is not that impressive, anon.
We all understand that there were gameplay issues.
>>25304212
Acrobatics, there's nothing like impressing cilivian faggots all day with your mastery of backflips
>>25304667
I just play mage and heal through everything. Go hand to hand. And collect shield and reflect damage entanted items. My main had 33% reflect damage and another 50% block damage.
The game is broken easy to twink and max your stats each level based on what skills you train.
I always wear a mix of heavy and light armor until each are 25.
Hand to Hand levels fastest because skill exp is per use, not per damage or strength.
Practice spells and jump everywhere.
Don't level until you use your five trainings.
>>25304963
It still breaks my immersion though but to each his own
>>25304212
Have you heard any word from the other provinces?
>>25304967
I never said that it was impressive because it isn't if you're not blinded by nostalgia that is.
>>25304212
>Opinion on this game, /r9k/? Is athletics a bad skill to have?
Does it matter?
Don't you just build it by running and jumping?
>tfw you played Skyrim and miss moon jumping all over the place
>>25305074
I've heard syndicates of wizards are leading a boycott of imperial goods in the land of the Altmer.
>>25304557
I'll play when I buy in the next sale, I already spent all my money on games nowincluding the goty edition of Oblivion on steam
thanks for recommending anyway senpai
>>25305132
I saw a mudcrab the other day... ghastly creatures.
>Morrowind fags
>>25305147
I've heard others say the same.
>>25305133
no problem you could always just pirate it though if you don't feel like buying it, the goty editiion is on sale on steam for $6.79 though
>>25305156
your not completely wrong desu senpai yeah the graphics and animations are shit but you have to look past that and mods always help
>>25305132
>>25305147
>>25305164
They say that when you murder someone, the Dark Brotherhood comes to you in your sleep... it's how they recruit new members.
anyone else here want to post their mod lists for morrowind or oblivion?
>>25305251
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>>25305166
ikr, but that fat slob got me with his magic, now I can't play a game without buying it on steam, unless is too expensive (in my country FO4 have a price of 80 dollars)
i literally ran out of money, otherwise i would buy it for sure
>>25304284
>Morrowind
That's a funny way of spelling Arena.
the comfiest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHinJ7C2P0
One thing that has annoyed me about the Elder Scrolls lore is what happened to the Champion of Cyrodiil, and the Thalmor taking over Cyrodiil.
By the end of Oblivion, my character was insanely powerful, and possibly even a Daedric Prince, or at least somebody who fucking killed one.
I'm pretty sure he'd have had something to say about some faggot Elves invading the place.
>>25305345
http://dostorrents.com/the-elder-scrolls-iii-morrowind-goty-edition-gog-t11157112.html
it's under 2gb so it only takes like 30 at most to download even if your computer is slow af
>>25305373
Nope, CoC turned intoSheogorathafter Shivering Isles and stopped giving a fuck about the quarrels of mortals
>>25304431
oblivion is the goat, ive fought mudcrabs more fearsome than you
>>25304868
>they should have at least put in an animation so that you could see when you miss
This was the major issue I had.
It's a visual medium, and had zero visual feedback.
Also archery.
If I have to use my cursor to aim and hit something, instead of just allowing me to indicate I want to shoot in it's general direction, I should not miss.
>>25305373
It's very strongly implied that Sheogorath in Skyrim is your character from Oblivion
Sheogorath's dialogue in Skyrim may suggest that he is the Hero of Kvatch; that the character became Sheogorath in the events of the Shivering Isles expansion. This is referenced twice by Sheogorath, first with his mention of having been at the Oblivion Crisis "for that whole sordid affair" and also with his mention of his position being passed down from him to himself every few thousand years.
He also mentions butterflies, blood, a Fox, a severed head, and cheese. These likely reference the beginning of Shivering Isles, the Blood of the Daedra/Divines main quest, the Gray Fox of the Cyrodiil Thieves Guild and the severed head of Mathieu Bellamont's mother. The cheese may be in reference to Sheogorath's Daedric Shrine quest in Border Watch. However, it is also possible that, being an insane Daedric Prince, he was able to watch the events.
An interesting point to note is that there is no certain reason for Sheogorath to watch the Cyrodiil affair. He, being a form of Jyggalag, is one of the most hated Daedric Princes among the Daedra. Dagon is unlikely to converse with him. Also, he only chooses to mention the events of Oblivion, and not that of Morrowind, Elder Scrolls Online or Arena. Sheogorath's intention was, according to Haskill, for the Hero of Kvatch to mantle him.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Sheogorath
>>25305455
>If I have to use my cursor to aim and hit something, instead of just allowing me to indicate I want to shoot in it's general direction, I should not miss.
except that when your with in range of someone with a sword and you slash at them you should hit them unlike shooting an arrow in someones general direction those are two very different things
>>25305373
Those fucking elves taking over the empire and banishing talos worship was something hard to accept
It's very unlikely, but I hope TES VI main quest is something about kicking those fuckers back to summerset isles
fucking elves
>>25305578
I fucking love murdering elves.
Elves are for murdering and raping.
>>25305578
It's going to be a brainless game
I thought the graphics + art style, voice acting, script, main story and combat were terrible. The character models just look like slightly different coloured blobs. The only alright part really was the final mission, the rest of it was trash.
It was streamlined in a way that didn't work, because the RPG elements only seemed to hinder gameplay instead of increase immersion.
Morrowind remains the best in the series, followed by Skyrim.
the map was pretty boring and the main quest was nothing special, I didn't really enjoy the mages guild and the fighters guild was so and so
the oblivion gates were repetitive and once I'd done them a few times I could go through each in like 7 minutes
the two things that stood out to me were the dark brotherhood and the thieves guild questlines, the dark brotherhood in particular, I was so fucking emotionally invested in to that one, I nearly teared up when I walked in to that farmhouse and lucien was hanging there
and the grey fox was amazing as well, I really wish you'd be able to at least get the cowl in canon skyrim
>>25305662
>Morrowind remains the best in the series, followed by Skyrim.
kek
Oblivion > Morrowind >>> Shitrimjob
nobody cares about the earlier, ancient releases desu
>>25305434
>>25305479
That's what I assumed, since it's heavily implied.
I'd have found it easier to accept if becoming Sheogorath was reflected in the gameplay in some way, instead of being able to change the weather.
>>25305704
>no one cares about arena and daggerfall
ftfy
>>25304212
being able to jump high in this game and take less fall damage from heights is always a good skill to have. plus, it practically ties in with your speed
>>25304212
here you go
http://www.linklost.com/occ/
http://ocp.uesp.net/
>>25305680
>main quest was nothing special
>the main quest literally involve a daedric lord conspiracy to rule mundus
>nothing special
well lad
ive been playing daggerfall recently would I like arena too?
>>25304212
>>>/vg/
>>>/v/
>>>/trash/
there are 2 FUCKING BOARDS FOR THIS, GO THROUGH THE BOARD LIST BEFORE POSTING. STOP FUCKING BUMPING THIS FAGGOT'S THREAD.
>>25305779
suck a peeny weeny faggot
>>25305725
I like to think that the changes and abilities you gained after taking his role were gradual and you didn't know how to perfectly use them immediately that's my headcannon to explain why you could only fuck with the weather and a few other things also from a gameplay perspective it would have been hard to give you godlike reality warping powers in game because that's essentially just a construction set
>>25305766
the oblivion gates got pretty stale, the real fun was all of the guilds and side quests
>>25305779
oblivion and morrowind are robot games desu senpai, skyrim is the first elder scrolls to be popular with people other than nerds
So athletics is a shit major skill to have? Take the Steed stone instead?
>that galrthir quest
>that quest where you go inside a guy's dream
>that quest where you go inside a painting
>most of the daedra quests
>the entire DB questline
>everything having to do with the SHIVERING ISLES
>my nigga Weebam Na
man I fucking LOVED/LOVE oblivion
>>25305880
my nigga dis guy knows how it be
>>25305880
The quest where you rescue this sexy lady
>>25305880
>my nigga Weebam Na
POWDERED
DEER
PEENUS
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Oblivion got me through some shit back in 2006/2007.
For all its flaws, TESIV is my number one game.
>>25305880
Fuck you for reminding me of an adolescence "wasted" having a shitton of fun playing this game.Fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuu.
>>25305880
>>25305911
>>25305961
>>25305976
>>25305989
You robots are truly my kin.The fact that someone took the time to make pic related fills me with joy.
>>25306036
>>25305976
>>25305961
>>25305911
>>25305880
>tfw you will NEVER experience Oblivion for the first time again
>tfw you can NEVER go back to 2006/2007 to lose yourself in vanilla OblivionIt's time to feel, lads.
>>25306064
;___;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgSeZpcMOBE
>>25305880
>Baenlin... Oh Baenlin... I loved ya, old man. I loved ya... But I couldn't protect ya... Oh Baenlin! Waaaahhhhh! [sobbing]
>>25306064
>mfw never played oblivion
>mfw its time to lose myself in vanilla oblivion for the first time
>>25306179
lucky bastard, blessings of akatosh upon ye
>>25306179
blessings of stendarr upon ye
>>25306179
uriel's illegitimate son kills akatosh.
>>25306179
Don't choose premade classes, and don't choose redundant skills.
>>25306286
you didn't even really spoil anything good oblivions main quest isn't even that good except for when you go to paradise its the side quests that are amazing
>>25306359
that was a `Star Wars episode VII: The cuck awakens` reference
>>25306391ORIGINAL CONTENTORIGINAL CONTENTORIGINAL CONTENT
>>25306286
>kills akatosh
>illegitament son
u wot m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvm0CN3tQFI
Look how much love, care and genuine interest the makers of this game put into it. Maximum comfort.
The biggest stain is the default leveling system.
I get the feeling Oblivion did loads of the heavy lifting required for gaming to advance to the next level.
Beginners tips for oblivion?
>>25306874
don't take it too seriously and have fun the main quest isn't that good but the guilds are amazing especially the dark brotherhood and the daedric shrines. Also go to inns and ask about rumors for quests.
OP here. Oblivion is the last true Elder Scrolls game isn't it? It still has some Morrowind in it's heart, as getting quests will sometimes make NPCs tell you where things are. Like actual directions, not just "Yeah it's here"
>>25307077Skyrim's art style and overall feel was much more like Morrowind to me than Oblivion.
>>25307106
Because potato face?
>>25307127
In Oblivion there was no variation between races. Skyrim's colour palette and shapes were inspired by Morrowind
>>25306874
Save at the sewer exit gate
Pick a pre-made class just for flavor and get immersed in the world, don't level unless you feel you have to (sleeping levels you)
You could have one character that never sleeps and stays at level 1. But research the quests that require sleep so you can either avoid them altogether or get them out of the way before you level your skills enough to level.
>>25307162
That's something. I always preferred Skyrim's art style to Oblivion personally, but Oblivion is still a better game. I don't like how faces looked in Oblivion. Everything else is good though
>>25307191
That's retarded as fuck. If you're that afraid of Oblivion's bad leveling system, then do some research on some major skills to avoid, not sleeping would destroy immersion and it's more trouble than it's worth. Also, if you're playing a pure mage, just keep your primary damage dealing schools leveled and you'll be fine (Destruction/Conjuration), if you're warrior, then keep blade/blunt high (atheletics will fuck your shit) and if you're rogue, shiiiiiii, your sneak skill will definately fuck your shit up
>>25305479
This is the dumbest fan theory, Sheogorath is the prince of madness he can't be killed just banished to another plane of Oblivion until he can reform a mortal form. Even daedrics like Boethiah mention they get more power the more people know and worship them. Sheogorath was probably trying to get more power from making everyone talk about him, or he went crazy being bested by a mortal and started to go shizoid and think he was the hero of kvatch.
Protip on Oblivion, don't take alchemy as a major. Buy a mortar and pestle, go to the farm infested with goblins that you can do the chillrend quest between the white gold tower and that nord village in the north (wouldn't do the actual quest because legendary weapons at a low level fucking suck and defeat the point of unlocking them) but the farm has ingredients to make fortify intelligence potions for free you can pick up, fort int makes alchemy success increase and better potions, sell those off and you can get a chunk of gold really fast at the start.
>>25307386
No. It's very good advice for someone that just wants to go wild without being hindered.
Next character he makes can go mad with leveling till he understands efficient leveling (assuming he even sticks around that long)
>not worshipping Jyggalag, the Daedric Prince of Autism
>>25307683
I'm familiar with Efficient Leveling, but it's not something I would do. Too much micromanaging.
>>25307613
except that it's not a fan theory you meme
>>25307872
Everyone does that to some extent though.
Morrowind leveling up didn't hurt you because there were huge increases in your ability from stats and skills not to mention pre-leveled characters instead of pure level scaled ones (even though level scaling could up some monsters and their weapon types) it was still in your favor to level up.
Oblivion there was no point in leveling the scale sucked.
Skyrim they just decided they couldn't work out a system by 11/11/11 marketing date. Kind of sucked how they took out the level 50 and 100 skill abilities you developed in Oblivion that was an excellent improvement over Morrowind. Skyrim was Oblivions broken level scale almost fixed but just dumbed down from everything else in the series.
>>25307872
It's not that hard senpai, unless your trying to min max just pick skills that you're going to use and level up attributes relevant to those skills, by the time your level 30 or 40 you'll be overpowered as fuck no matter what you do.
Trying to min max in oblivion wasn't even satisfying for my autism. It was just plain tedious.
The skill system is intuitive enough (the things you use improve) but the results of that as you level up and the points you get are done wrong imo.
The best system I've ever used was Anarchy Online, but that's dedder than ded now.
>>25308388
It's implied = fan theory
>>25304212
worse than morrowind and prior, better than skyrim and leagues ahead of fallout 3/4
>>25308454
im so fuckin done talking about ES, anyone that started playing before 4&5 are like considered fuckin freaks. series is made for normies now.
>>25308410
>>25308404
Oh, of course just pick attributes you're going to use. Mind if I post a class idea for some feedback?
My first and all time favourite. Oh the memories..
>>25304779
>another fantasy game for autismos
>what is witcher 3
It's like you haven't spend hundreds of hours hunting down the gwent cards without help
>STILL no vanilla option in a bethesda game to set up a portable camp somewhere in the world where you can cook/sleep
Even FNV, the worst FO/TES game, had fucking bedrolls
>>25304855
this. Stealth archers are usually a pretty good class to play
STOP, YOU'VE VIOLATED THE LAW
>>25308741
>new vegas
>worst fallout game
this is bait, and terrible bait at that
HALT WHERE YOU STAND, CRIMINALS AND SCUM!
>love tes
>teso comes out
>lore is completely butchered
>mfw cant escape screenshots and proof of the existance of Teso
>mfw seeing noble dunmer with the soulless stinking nords and argonian scum
>>25304212
better than skyrim, I only play skyrim because of my 76gb mod folder.
You just can't beat skyrim modded to work like mount and blade with a 4k texture back.
Enter thread on /r9k/ and its all about vidya, enter thread on /v/ and anon is talking about how he diddled his nephew on Christmas and is terrified of the consequences. Whats happening?
>>25308454
It's spelled out pretty fucking clearly, do you not understand anything unless it's explicitly stated
>>25308767
PAY THE COURT A FINE OR SERVE YOUR SENTENCE
>>25308454
sheogorath says that he replaces himself every few hundred or thousand years, mentions being at very specific events that the player character was a part of in oblivion but nothing earlier than that. It was pretty obvious, hell you replace sheogorath at the end of the shivering isles
>>25308820
Honest /r9k/ threads are more on topic than anything /v/ can cook up. It's a place for shitposting about vidya.
>>25308454
you replace sheo at the end of the dlc why wouldnt you be him
>>25304330
IMO the only really bad thing about Skyrim was the Guilds. I managed to have a lot of fun with the game and the vampires in the Dawnguard DLC were executed surprisingly well.
>>25308806
Tried it, enjoyed it for a day, dropped it. Completely right about the lore being butchered. I just wanted to visit Cyrodiil one last time...
>>25308897
Miraak would've been the perfect Skyrim main game final boss...
>>25304423
I know. Morrowind is amazing and was THE rpg of its era, but it doesn't eclipse any of the other TES games at all. Each have their ups and downs (*cough* Morrowind's fucked up combat *cough*) I do believe it is the best of the 5 though.
>>25304629
All these replies.
Well Sally, we'll have to get through this shitstorm one way or another.
>>25308897
didn't like the whole Imperial/Stormcloak thing. neither side is worth fighting for, and even after doing the quest, barely anything changes
>>25304779
IMO Skyrim wasn't that bad for a bit of fantasy RPG fun.
Fallout 4, despite being a great game on its own, is a pathetic excuse for a Fallout title. Fallout is an RPG series, yet F4 gives you no room to roleplay by giving your character a voice and, worst of all, A BACKSTORY. At least Skyrim let you roleplay properly. The closest this game gets is your look and name.
>>25304967
20 year old? You mean 12, right?
>>25305373
Your character was enjoying the fruits of being a Daedra Prince by the time the Great War comes around.
>>25309034
I find the Main Quest worst than the Civil War. The Civil War is underwhelming, the Main Quest embodies most things wrong with Skyrim with the most stand out thing being the Blades Armor. After the Main Quest the problem doesn't even go away, the very things you tried to stop are still fucking shit up. You get new shouts, and new equipment from exploring dungeons, but you also get dragons that can kill NPCs. The dragons aren't even hard, they're just pests. The Civil War is underwhelming, the Main Quest is just boring with not much to it other than learning more lore which was honestly the main thing that kept me going.
>>25305657
So? Gotta love slaughtering Altmer scum.
>>25308454
FUCK OFF CLIFFRACER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>25308523
This is what I don't get about this fucklord shit stain of a community. I started playing ES with Skyrim. However, I have played, and much prefer Morrowind. Despite this fact, I am dismissed as a 'fucking casual newfag' constantly by long-time fans. Why? Why can't I be a dweeby nerd like you because I haven't played a game for as long as you have?
>>25308741
New Vegas was by far Bethesdas best Fallout game.
>>25309034
I agree. It had SO much potential for an immersive and compelling storyline.
Extremely fun game for its time. Its not as good as Morrowind, kind of on par with skyrim. Skyrim fixed many of oblivions issues but also forgot what made TES games so unique. Bethesda forgot how to make games. Fallout 4 is a great example of it. They keep backpedaling and you shouldnt support them.
>>25309070
It's good in the sense that it's an entire world that you can explore that is varied enough to keep it interesting as a fucking around sim, but every other technical element is either average or garbage.
I pirated it so don't blame me for its success.
>there will never be another real elder scrolls game, just rubbish that can't even be fixed by mods like skyrim
It's all over lads.
>>25304212
Best of the series IMO. Skyrim was boring af.
>>25308849
PLOP RIGHT THERE CRIMIMULBLUM
BLAYBLUBBLOURTBLABLABBORPLPLUPULBLUBULPLPLPLUP
I just wish they'd hurry up with the conversion mods so I can enjoy the horribly aged ES games in this day.
>>25304583
This. You might as well pick skills you aren't going to use, the ones that are harder to level otherwise, than ones you will be using just by default.
>>25304330
>Better than Skyrim honestly.
it's absolutely not.
>>25305680
This, I completely ignored the main quest and became a dickass thief.
>>25310783
>Actually had an excel sheet to make sure I got +5 every level in the stat I wanted
>For hours leveling mysticism and shitty spells just to give me +5
