Going to take LSD for the second time soon. What should I do while under its influence?
>>25279478
Ego death in the sense of killing yourself.
>think
>listen to music
>sit outside
>meditate
>create something
>write your thoughts
>adjust the lighting of your room
>control your breathing
>jack off when you're coming down
Avoid electronic bullshit breh
>>25279535
>think
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>meditate
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>create
>>25279535
None of those is possible on 'psychedelics'.
>>25279556
Psychedelics hate Guy? It's been a while.
Anyway Op, I like doing lucy with my friends and just talking, listening to music is cool too. Just enjoy it and ride the wave.
begin beta uprising
>>25279556
>None of those is possible on 'psychedelics'.
you're not even trying, are you?
>>25279799
>Psychedelics hate Guy?
If the smartest, most level-headed, nicest (as in, genuinely inoffensive, not superficially pleasant), creative and insightful people you've met largely had autism, and then you read about 'the therapeutic successes of treating autistic children to psychedelics', it is hard not to hate them.
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>>25279846
'Psychedelic' 'thoughts' are just unhinged sense of platitudes' relevance.
'Psychedelic' 'creativity' is just random, self-indulgent [dn]oodling.
>>25279896
your next post will be, "I was merely pretending to be retarded"
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>>25279896
I started quoting the parts of this post that sounded absolutely retarded but I quickly realized I'd have to quote the entire thing.
tell me friend, do you have an actual mental handicap or is this just some sort of trendy pretend autism?
I went to the botanical gardnes then beach when on acid with mates. Was a good sesh, will be going to either the zoo or new years eve on psychadelics next
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>>25279960
I know.
I know.
'Psychedelics' made you 'understand' that having an 'open mind' is 'important'.
Insight truly incisive.
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>dismissive pretentious spergbabble buttressed by inane strawmen in a vain attempt to seem worldly or interesting
knock it off you clown
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>>25279478
fucking drug addict kill yourself you worthless fucking piece of human garbage already so that you can burn in hell already like you deserve
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>strawman
>the posts to which I replied made no claims to misrepresent in the first place
I am concerned, druggie. Your grasp on things is truly slipping.
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You are accomplishing nothing.
>>25279478
Whatever you normally do, when you're getting high or drunk and trying to have a good time.
Don't let any dweeb fool you, there's nothing magical or special about psychedelics. You won't gain some deeper understanding of the universe and the human condition. You'll just get really high. Any "insights" you imagine will be just that, imaginary, under the influence of a drug. You're short-circuiting your brain for a few hours, that's it.
That being said, I love psychedelics. Shrooms, acid, mescaline, dmt, it's all great. I don't do any of it much, any more, I'm getting too old for that shit and have things to do, I can't be frying face for twelve hours.
But if you're young, full of cum and have nothing to do, typically, have yourself a blasty blast.
Read Finnegan's Wake while listening to the complete symphonies of Beethoven.
>>25280086
If you can even read while tripping, your dealer boned you hard and gave you some nonsense.
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>>25279478
Try and watch the Speed Racer movie.
I did and I spent literally the entire time trying to figure out if it was real or not. It was so unimaginably awful that I refused to believe someone had actually produced it.
I also convinced myself that I was dead. That's what death is. Just lying there unable to move while speed racer plays in front of you.
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>>25280153
Again, you are accomplishing nothing under your misimpression that your gibberish is rendering threads in which druggies post even less comprehensible than can be expected from them.
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Can you please stop? Is there a point to this?
>>25279478
play marvel vs capcom 2. seriously.
I usually put on ambient or chill music, get the room cold, and have no light except maybe a little candle or oil lamp going. Just hide in bed and trip. Feels good. On the come down go for a nice walk. Smoking weed before the walk can kick it up a notch or two, but it's hardly necessary. Just a nice walk since you won't be able to sleep.
Get some cool fabric. Fabric is some next level shit. I had a scarf and that thing was my baby. Just feeling that shit was top notch.
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>>25280232
Beside trying to drive me away from this thread through considering it lost, it is supposed to be a satire of my posting of 'incomprehensible wall of texts' I imagine.
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>>25279478
Call your mom and tell waht you've done
>>25279478
realize the world isnt real and kill yourself
>>25279478
420 in epic thread blaze it
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>>25280261
You, too, stop your shenanigans, then.
We get it, you don't like hippies.
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how do I get myself some lsd?
>>25280302
Disregarding even the artistic and intellectual damage, 'psychedelics' literally lead to suffering and ignorance -- not just self-unawareness, literal suffering in the sense of preventable injuries and deaths.
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>>25280361
Cheeky usage of 'synonyms' feature on microsoft word soberfag
>>25280338
Life is suffering, buddy. There's no "preventable death". You're going to die, and one of your own vices will kill you. Even if you have absolutely no vices, and live a 100% healthy and active lifestyle, you're still going to die.
If someone wants to spend some of his time doing risky things, which according to you, includes doing drugs, while he's alive, then he should have at it. You're not going to make people not take acid, or not meditate (why you hate just plain meditation, I don't know), any more than spam man is going to make you leave these threads alone, any more than my trying to reason with you will make you leave these threads alone.
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>>25280411
Among others, your error is the banal naive one that 'psychedelics' don't make you not only (1) recommend them to others, but (2) display behaviours, such as paying attention to appearances ([1], basically), empathizing, being religious, being immaterialistic (disinclined to discuss matter), which are going to influence people around you anyway, leading to an uneducated society and suffering.
And no, 'it is other people's responsibility to refuse to act the way I do' is not a morally sound argument. This is a fallacy -- I *am* in the power to effect some change. And even if I weren't, impossibility to offset a wrong is never a justification.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind-blindness
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>([1], basically)
*the opposite of [1]
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>>25280507
Now I see why the other guy's spamming incomprehensible nonsense. Your actual posts are incomprehensible nonsense.
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Just that I used 'effect' as a verb doesn't make my post nonsense, anon.
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I would like to think 'psychedelics' have made druggies creative enough to thin to write a bot for such things.
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How do psychedelics lead to suffering and ignorance?
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Man, I haven't seen this particular spammer in a while, if it is even the same guy.
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>>25280783
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>>25280878
So psychedelics make someone more empathetic, which makes people believe that everything is subjective, which then leads people to not get educated or "robs them" of what they currently know, which makes them want to get less educated, which makes them less competent and then they make mistakes and hurt them selves, which makes them suffer?
Also are you saying what I wrote was a strawman or are you just typing stuff?
>>25281004
Yes, more or less.
And I'm sorry for the 'strawman' -- druggies have been crying that whenever I cite an average druggie anti-intellectual sentiment of which I learned as a result of relatively voluminous reading on drugs which those same druggies accuse me of not having done.
I'm sorry, but I got to go ATM. Later, maybe.
>>25281004
I honestly thought that post was word salad spammer.
It my experience psychedelics make me more disconnected from everyone and think on how human connection is impossible and shit.
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What the FUCK is going on in this thread?
>>25281143
Spam, it's reddits version of downboats when they can't find a downboat button.
>>25281271
nah, imitation is the highest form of flattery. that's what druggie guy will likely tell himself anyway
>>25279478
Listen to this album.
>>25281143
The spammer is giving us a demonstration of what's going through your brain on 'psychedelics'.
>>25281562
bull fucking shit
I've had some of the most enlightening, logically consistent, rational discussions of my entire life while on LSD
You tripping nigga
>>25281614
>I've had some of the most enlightening, logically consistent, rational discussions
With and judged by...?
>>25281004
>>25281084
>>25280878
>drugs make you want to avoid knowledge
Lolwat.
I think you fail to understand that the sort of idiots you are talking about were already stupid before they started using drugs. Weed and psychedelics have not affected my interest in general knowledge, and have instead made me more interested in philosophy.
>>25281625
with my actual, certified genius friends at MIT (not really MIT, but an elite-tier STEM school, dont wanna give away identity here tho senpai)
judged by them and my other homie who was sober and with us while we were on the trip
>>25281667
>already stupid before they started using drugs
Glaringly morally untenable.
>Weed and psychedelics have not affected my interest in general knowledge, and have instead made me more interested in philosophy.
It doesn't work that way. The latter has taken priority. Not to mention that 'philosophy' is the catch-all term for the intellectual dregs that fail the relevance criteria of every other subject.
>>25281562
I've had dxm trips more coherent. Hell, even more coherent dph trips. Dxm and dph are not psychedelics by the way.
Unless you're going for a heroic dose you appear and sound normal aside from the pupils. Associations can become looser and the mundane can appear profound. That's about it. It's all very logical, or it feels that way to me. I do scripting and math shit for fun though so it's not difficult for me to reach such a mindset. I've never tripped with others but I've read trip reports and none report thinking in gibberish.
>>25281712
>I've read trip reports and none report thinking in gibberish
WOW
>>25281703
>It doesn't work that way.
Well it did work out that way for me.
>Not to mention that 'philosophy' is the catch-all term for the intellectual dregs that fail the relevance criteria of every other subject.
The legal system and constitution of your country (whatever country that may be) is simply the philosophical musings of the founders and leaders of your nation put into legal terms. Your ideas about morality would also fall under the purview of "philosophy."
>>25281765
>Well it did work out that way for me.
Then why for forty years' worth of extolling of 'psychedelic research', there was not a single longitudinal study about preferred reading subjects?
>The legal system and constitution of your country
Then why didn't you just say you had legal insights?
>>25281726
Have you? I've only read trip reports on hallucinogens so I'm by no means an expert on every drug in the universe. Please link if you have seen any. I work in mental health and have seen people come in high speaking word salad, but that's usually preexisting schizophrenia with a heaping helping of stimulant psychosis on top or similar. I've wondered if they're actually thinking that crazy shit, if they're thinking something else but that's all that comes out, if it's purely motor with little cognition, or if they think they're actually being coherent. You see some real cuckoo birds come through. It's fun talking with them.
>>25281872
>I work in mental health
If only I didn't want to live on this planet anymore already...
>Have you [read trip reports]?
Yes, more than you. 'What I thought was vague platitudes my residual memory of profundity of which has led me to cling to the idea of psychedelics causing introspection.' Said how many druggies ever?
>>25281811
>Then why for forty years' worth of extolling of 'psychedelic research', there was not a single longitudinal study about preferred reading subjects?
I don't know. Would you be willing to put the money forward to fund such a study?
If not, why do you think someone else would?
>Then why didn't you just say you had legal insights?
I was merely pointing out that philosophy is not limited pointless intellectual masturbation.
>>25281920
>Would you be willing to put the money forward to fund such a study?
Absolutely. Meanwhile, I might amuse myself and myself only by constructing such a study, suggesting it to universities, and watch them panic as they grasp desperately at excuses that 'it is unneeded' and 'flawed' and 'would prove nothing' and 'it has been conclusively proven already that psychedelics are harmless'.
>I was merely pointing out that philosophy is not limited pointless intellectual masturbation.
I was merely pointing out that you are backpedalling by broadening the definition of philosophy once you were called out on it.
>>25281811
Probably because psychedelic research is difficult to get approved, and when done it focuses more on therapy for things like addiction, autism, and depression, and hospice care. I'm sure one day a book club will fund some psychedelic research though. It's pretty low on the priority list at the momentmoment. What good could come from such information anyway?
>>25281950
But I'm not backpedaling. I am saying that law is applied philosophy, and therefore philosophy is not as useless as you seem to think. You also ignored my quip about your ideas on morality being your own personal philosophy.
>hehe, the universities would be against it!
I kinda doubt that. John Hopkins was just recently conducting a survey to ask psychedelic users about experiences with perceived divine beings. Other researchers have had studies either monitoring psychedelic users or questioning them about their experiences/use.
>>25281917
Are you having suicidal ideation? How long? Do you have a concrete plan in place to commit suicide. Are you thinking of hurting yourself right now?
To answer your question, I don't know. I don't recall coming across such an expression in a trip report, and patients we get usually are in serious trouble, not just dabbling in recreational psychedelic use. As you mentioned, you've read more trip reports than I have. If you can't remember any gibberish reports could you mention which drug they were on? I'd really like a link to one though.
>>25281625
LOL No response? >>25281676
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>>25281971
>Probably because psychedelic research is difficult to get approved
I laughed out loud like I haven't in months.
>things like addiction, autism, and depression, and hospice care
Translation: 'things that involve caring, being concerned, finding important, and tenacity'. I understand that it tells you nothing, druggie, I really do.
>What good could come from such information anyway?
N-nothing! If people want to read Daniel Goleman rather than Joaquin Fuster, Thich Nhat Hanh rather than Simon Baron-Cohen, Alan Watts rather than Arthur Jensen, it is their personal private choice! No way this can affect the society whatsoever! That's paranoid!
>>25282048
>Are you having suicidal ideation? How long? Do you have a concrete plan in place to commit suicide. Are you thinking of hurting yourself right now?
Yes, I can't wait to see the yellow of my slashed arm and the purple of my swollen face. Getting hard thinking about it.
>>25282087
You think addiction, depression, autism, and hospice care are of no use to research but the books someone checks out at the library are?
Since you missed the implications of my questioning practical applications of psychedelic research on reading choices I'll spell it out for you. It is immoral to forcibly drug or deny access to drugs just to make people like the things you like.
>>25279478
Listen to Riverside and do Ketamine while you're at it. It'll take you to a whole new level my friend.
>>25282113
I doubt you're the person I was replying to, but either way I think you'll be OK. I wouldn't suggest a 72 hour hold at least. This sounds like self harm and some weird sexual shit. Outpatient therapy will fix the cutting and ssris will fix the erections.
>>25282229
>You think addiction, depression, autism, and hospice care are of no use to research but the books someone checks out at the library are?
I think such misconclusion is typical of you.
I am saying that research is being intentionally limited to people whom 'psychedelics' can *arguably* 'help' so to be able to disingenuously claim that 'they have only ever been found to be beneficial'.
>just to make people like the things you like
The materials I gave are objectively harmful.
>>25282293
Not him, but what you are saying is that you have made up your mind (that psychedelics are harmful) and believe studies should revolve around searching for proof to back your ideas up. There have been plenty of studies done by anti-drug groups or funded by anti-drug groups/governments.
>The materials I gave are objectively harmful.
Only if you consider believing things that you do not personally believe to be harmful.
>>25282293
(Of course, as they are gaining popularity, they alter the population's definition of benefit ('you should care less about this shit, man... and as a matter of fact, about that, too -- and that -- and that -- more microgrammes -- definitely!'), so that they are delegalized more and more, eventually leading to mandatory administration.)
>>25282351
>Only if you consider believing things that you do not personally believe to be harmful.
Truth/accuracy of beliefs and happiness are objective values.
>>25282372
>mandatory administration
(As you are typing the word 'paranoid', think what when the minority that swears by 'everyone should try them at least once' is multiplied hundredfold.)
>>25282423
Sorry man, but you're off your rocker. Most people that have done psychedelics understand that it's not something that should be forced on others. You do them if and when you feel like you can handle it.
>>25282387
>Truth/accuracy of beliefs
Scientific beliefs? Sure.
>happiness
What brings about happiness is subjective.
>>25282293
Do you think you could get a double blind human study done on drugs to prove they cause harm? You can't, but even wanting to is fucked up. No one says psychedelic drug use is harmless, but why should hurting people take priority over helping people?
It's only natural someone in mental health would be interested is therapeutic treatment for mental health issues.
I'm about as far from being a commie but I don't think we should start burning books by Marx and banning venti pumpkin spice latte mocha cappuccino diddlyrinos.
>>25279478
>going to try acid for the first time early next year
>qt friend of a friend who likes country music will be there
Am I going to say some autistic shit or hit on her or something while high? I've never done acid before and I never hit on girls because I'm shy/don't want to subject them to me.
>>25282515
I find mainstream country music incredibly annoying on acid.
>>25282515
In all honesty: You might
If you have feelings for the girl it is very possible that they'll come out. If not, then you should be fine. Even when I'm tripping I have the presence of mind not to run my mouth too much.
>>25282475
>What brings about happiness is subjective.
Broken limbs, shorter lifespans, bites by rabid animals, inability to ask a foreigner for directions in dire need, inability to manipulate a device, inability to suggest a shortcut to a passer-by, those are relatively objective.
I am smiling at the very thought of you saying in future threads, 'he literally believes that use of psychedelics causes dog bites, he literally admitted to believing this'. The way you said I am 'triggered by mentions of jazz', remember?
>>25282479
This is... just bizarre. I don't know how to reply.
'Psychedelics' are as harmless as amputation. Called for when everything else fails (though I would die rather than try them even if I shouldn't kill myself anyway), harmful in 99.99% of cases. Academia designedly obscures the harmful consequences, depicting them in innocent phrases such as 'openness to experience' or 'creativity' or 'religious experiences' (never: induction of religious beliefs, because to be implied is transience) or 'self-awareness' or 'introspection' or 'broadened horizons'.
>>25282515
>Am I going to say some autistic shit
>'psychedelics'
>autism
Considering that autistic people are known for their attachment to the rational and the factual, no. Absolutely no chance. Don't worry.
>>25282372
>mandatory administration
Chemical castration of repeat sexual offenders is highly controversial, even for pedophiles, a group so hated it makes 1692 Salem look like a coven's vacation community. Medicine stresses the importance of patient rights, even patient is considered a bad word because of pc bullshit. Clients have a shit load of rights, including the right to be informed of their rights and to seek retribution for any rights not respected. Among the most important rights is the right to refuse medication and treatment, and the right to be an active participant of the treatment team.
>>25282570
I doubt we'll be listening to any country while high, nobody else that's there likes it.
>>25282594
Shiieeet
I've never hit on girls when I've been drunk so here's hoping.
>>25282654
>Among the most important rights is the right to refuse medication and treatment, and the right to be an active participant of the treatment team.
So far.
'I cannot let my children die without experiencing such wonderful things as I experienced during my best trips!'
'We cannot let people suffering from anxiety live without realizing the beauty of connecting to other people!'
'Science cannot afford people being unaware of the fact that words don't describe reality accurately!'
>>25282645
>I am smiling at the very thought of you saying in future threads, 'he literally believes that use of psychedelics causes dog bites
Uh, alright? That isn't at all what you said, so I wouldn't say that.
What is bizarre is that you seem to think evil hippies seek to force you to drop some acid and listen to Grateful Dead with them.
>The way you said I am 'triggered by mentions of jazz', remember?
I'm not sure what post you are referring to. You must be quoting someone else.
>harmful in 99.99% of cases.
Do you have a single credible citation to back that up?
>>25280406
What is this?
Original
>>25282770
>What is bizarre is that you seem to think evil hippies seek to force you to drop some acid
The number of times this's happened is definitely 5+. Maybe 10+; not sure; long lost count. It's in the archive, if desustorage.org's done importing archive.moe.
>You must be quoting someone else.
You must be unaware that English language shares the singular and plural second-person personal pronoun... somehow.
>Do you have a single credible citation to back that up?
I can just see the druggie getting giddy realizing they get to ask this.
I understand that you don't understand how science works and are attached to your imaginary arbitrary standards of studies' reliability ('credibility') in intentional absence of studies fulfilling those standards. I understand your anti-scientific dogma dictating that you only allow discussion of that which follows those arbitrary, imaginary standards. It's fine, druggie.
>>25282851
In other words, it is exactly the druggie tactic to lobby for non-existence of studies of harmful effects and then intentionally ignore other premises as 'unscientific'. Then calls for 'credible' studies will be refused because 'there have been no premises that would suggest that there are harmful effects'. It is circular reasoning, a masterful druggie deadlock.
>>25282645
I don't think you've actually read any of the research. Psychedelics can't be compared to amputation. I'd put it on the same level as ECT or ketamine use for treatment resistant depression and bipolar. Psychedelic therapy is all that's left when abstinence and Sinclair method opiod antagonist therapy fail to treat alcoholism. You are within your rights to prefer death over psychedelic therapy. It's far from the craziest shit I've seen. Jehovah's witness refuse blood products and many asians refuse palliative therapy.
Something would not even receive additional trials if it was shown to be harmful 99.99% of times though. Using your ridiculous example of amputation, it's better to have it as an option when it is indicated than not. In the case of hospice care the individuals are awaiting death. They are often given a fentanyl drip to control pain and the focus is on allowing them to pass with dignity. It can be hard to come to grips with death, especially for younger people. It is terrible to die while still in the anger stage of grief. Psychedelics help with this and bring them to peace with their mortality. I'm sure family would prefer a calm grandpa over a pissed off grandpa drooling and doped up on fent and Ativan, or in a medically induced coma.
The wording used in research doesn't matter. Look at the data, the numbers and graphs. It's either therapeutic or not. That's what these studies examine.
>>25282904
>The wording used in research doesn't matter. Look at the data, the numbers and graphs.
Holy shit.
Holy fucking shit.
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>>25282851
So you don't have any citations, and you simply invented that statistic?
Well that's fine then, I guess. It's late, so I need to get some sleep. I hope you do realize that there isn't some massive conspiracy to force psychedelics on everyone like you seem to believe. That's just (for lack of a better word) crazy.
>>25282898
Who are these druggies that are "lobbying" against studies on the harmful effects of drugs? How does one lobby against private funding of research?
>>25282930
No, druggie, you have invented standards of reliability of studies out of yourdrugged brain. An 'unreliable' study (it makes me laugh that someone can even use this term) is better than none, and definitely better than none as a result of intentional obscuration of consequences. But by all means continue to manipulate.
>How does one lobby against private funding of research?
LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF RESEARCH ON 'PSYCHEDELICS' HAS BEEN DESIGNED WITH THE EXPLICIT PURPOSE OF PROVING THEIR BENEFITS. LITERALLY NO PIECE OF RESEARCH ON 'PSYCHEDELICS' HAS BEEN DESIGNED WITH THE INTENT OF LEARNING THE BREADTH OF THEIR CONSEQUENCES ON FUNCTIONING.
>>25282904
>dignity
Personal short story time.
I once saw a druggie say that their trip made their realize that 'there is a world beyond labels'.
It was then that I realized and resolved fully that I would rather die than think something as... ugly.
'Psychedelic' 'realizations' about importance of acceptance, about petty things being unimportant, and so on... this is true indignity. Those are for dogs, not for humans. I would not like to die like a dog.
>>25282705
What do you mean by "so far"?
Parents do act as the deciding party for their children, but the state can override it if they're being retarded and refusing chemo because muh prayerz and holy water.
People aren't involuntarily committed just for anxiety, and drugs are never the first thing thrown at it, at least no drugs stronger than Prozac or wellbutrin. They try counseling and antidepressants until they're down to beta blockers, benzos, then maois as last resort.
I'm not even sure what to make of the last slippery slope. Science is a method, not a person, egregore, or godform. It's long been accepted words are a poor form of communication and describing reality. It's about the best we've got though. Psychedelic experience is often described as ineffable so it wouldn't provide any solutions to the inadequacy of words. Math and logic are better suited than words for most things like measuring and quantifying, but that's the realm of stimulants.
Stimulants work great but it's bullshit how they're pushed on children. I was put on them at 7. They should seriously reconsider the ethics behind that. Amphetamine makes you feel like shit. I don't understand how anyone gets addicted to them, but it's probably to do with therapeutic vs recreational use.
>>25283118
Every single drugged delusional 'realization' is just ugly. That of arbitrary importance or unimportance of this or that. That of free will. That of 'things beyond language'. That of understanding one has wronged others. That of 'importance of knowing one doesn't know everything'. The anti-intellectual vitriol is just unpalatable.
>>25283118
Was he dying from ass cancer at 35 if not it's really not relevant to dying with dignity. It's not the only way, but the tool is there. Ativan and fentanyl do a good job too, but excessive sedation can make goodbyes difficult, and lingering anger not yet worked through also makes goodbye difficult. This isn't something small and petty. This is the most profound sense of loss beyond what is imaginable. The cessation of everything you know and think I know I'm not ready to die yet. If lsd could help me to find acceptance I think I'd take it. It's not like they're going to talk shit about we at the funeral next week.
>>25283118
>'there is a world beyond labels'.
there is a world outside 'language'
>>25283132
>It's long been accepted words are a poor form of communication and describing reality.
Absolute arbitrary druggie nonsense.
Owing to never having done drugs, I have understood the vitriol behind those claims, their nature and origin. The nature is you arbitrarily, intentionally interpret there always being room for elaboration, that a description of something always include more parametres, of as 'limitedness' and not infinite expressibility. Or, you arbitrarily, intentionally mistask language with something it is not supposed to do, e.g. 'language cannot explain the colour blue' (yes, that fucking analogy you've been having on the tip of the tongue the whole time), which is equivalent to saying that, oh, that mass (the physical concept) cannot be used to describe debugging (the CS/IT concept). This is absurd, but druggies do that because they're desperately grasping at opportunity to connote the words' 'limitations'.
And you do it out of misguided populism -- because that's what everyone wants to hear.
The rest of your post is just regular irrelevant drugged ramblings.
>>25283211
If I witnessed my loved one's mind being broken by 'psychedelics' and consumed by empathetic delusions of importance of this or that, I would kill myself that same day.
>>25283219
Try communicating in English with a non English speaker. An extreme example, but even with a shared language it is impossible to convey an exact idea with words. This is a problem due to lack of telepathy we all share.
A good enough attempt can be made to encode and transmit an idea that can then be received and decoded close to the original thought. This is what we call communication. Language is a very big deal, sepir-worf theory is an interesting read on the subject. It shapes your perception of their world.
A lot of your post is hard to follow, but your example of language not describing blue doesn't make sense. You can give the color in wavelength, hexadecimal, rgb, etc. There are also cultural associations, but they aren't by any means traits inherent to the "blueness" of blue. Contrary to your assertion of everyone wanting to hear it, most people want to believe the exact opposite. I've held groups on interpersonal communication. If we could telepathy the entirety of our thoughts my cuckoo birds wouldn't need to be taught to use "I feel" statements instead of "you make me" statements. The fact difficulties exist in communication proves it is not a lossless form of data transmission. People manage to get beyond solipsism easy enough but recognizing the importance of their verbal abilities is something many struggle with. Words are by definition limited in their meaning though. If all words meant all words it would be useless for conveying a message consisting of only some words in a certain order, semantics and syntax.
>>25283235
Family isn't there for psychedelic therapy, and referring to it as their "mind being broken" is melodramatic. The goal of such therapy is to achieve what the druggies refer to as "ego death" and "religious experience". The trip isn't permanent, the sense of profundity and similar shit is long gone. What's left is a sense of calm. Keep in mind the alternative is usually anger and pain or a benzo/opiod stupor.
>>25279478
Watch holocaust documentaries and listen to black metal
>>25283827
>The trip isn't permanent, the sense of profundity and similar shit is long gone. What's left is a sense of calm.
This 'sense of calm' comes at the price of an equally permanent, lifelong increase in empathy. And palliative 'treatment' is literally 2% of all conditions are sold as a miracle cure for.
>I've held groups on interpersonal communication. If we could telepathy the entirety of our thoughts my cuckoo birds wouldn't need to be taught to use "I feel" statements instead of "you make me" statements.
Oh Jesus Christ.
So you are one of those people who say 'did you forget to take your meds today' and then follow this with a shit-eating 'I am 100% honest, this was a genuine question whether you are taking medicine, I was just curious if you use psychiatric services, stop seeing insults that aren't there'.
You are the lowest form of human and I feel deeply sorry for your victims. You just indulge your ego trips whereby you bully people into unwarranted self-doubt, 'hey man, you can't tell if you have been insulted like that, you can only tell that you feel insulted, exert some linguistic self-control, will you?'. This is a cowardly way to deflect responsibility, to be able to insult freely so then to blame the victim with your 'how can you be sure? pay more attention to your perceptions instead of judging others!'. And then to pretend that this brainwashing whereby you cow moral, timid people into hesitating to point out insults is improved character and raationality. I know you are going to say your 'strawman' and 'that's not what it is about'. This is only the more of the same, more of safe, secure denial of responsibility: 'you cannot ascribe motivations to me like that!'. I have seen this mindset all too often in real life and you are all vile.
The rest of your anti-intellectual manipulation pales in comparison. Ever new confirmations that people attracted to 'psychology' are passive-aggressive, cowardly scum.
>>25279478
Abstract and generalize shitposting
>>25283827
>Family isn't there for psychedelic therapy
Of course. Manipulators want their victims to be defenceless, to there to be no one who can remind them, 'this is just your brain creating delusions', 'this is your brain convincing itself that language is not everything', 'this is your brain convincing yourself that forgiveness is important', 'this is your brain convincing yourself that experiential reality is something superior to description of reality', and explain the mechanisms behind each of those. You want to prey in peace.
Fucking hell, half a year later (of actually doing things with my life) I come back to an /r9k/ psychedelics thread and see the same autist constsntly arguing against them. Only on Arcanine
>>25284083
In other words, the only people in whose interest it is to convince other people that all it's possible to speak of are subjective impressions ('I feel offended') as opposed to objective truth (e.g. about another person, 'he offended me') are people who want to keep people from learning the ways in which truth can be gleaned!! For instance, the ways to detect lies through, for instance, logical inconsistencies. Let me mention again the example where I was insulted with 'what you said is nonsense', and subsequently with 'it's false' -- if it's nonsense, then it is neither true nor false, which betrays that they just wanted to insult me and had no coherent thought. But you don't want people to build trust in their objective discernment, which is achievable -- you want to reduce them to creatures powerless before the 'reality' that language is 'at best limited'. Obscuring the power of reason to them if you cannot eliminate it completely. You are vile.
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>>25284306
>inb4 your belated vacuous declarations that 'you value truth'
SHOW. DON'T. TELL.
>>25284083
>>25284306
Du cherissait tu republique evidemment eclatantes ah. Ils heureuse les commanda horrible aux oui. Atroce he courbe sa jambes doigts credit glisse. Simple je et poteau il impose trouva he propos. Arriverent etonnement oui indulgence non claquaient fut bouquetins ici. Patrie bas bon bonnes altere fer blemir. Jour non sous tous soit ton.
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Cavaliers comprenez ou gendarmes je annoncait. Fabriques attelages non dut peu car echangent etendards jugements. Je indus voyez de fumee cette. Son est rang sur veut avis. Lassitude he sa servantes sanglante et carabines. Souliers rizieres il illumine au allumait cornette il crispent un. But ete ordure terres choses. Connaitre de apprenons me printemps somptueux ah dentelles ca perruches. Aime pour eux car ames car.
>>25284324
Do you work in special education?
Only a retard would concede this a proof of language's 'flawedness'.
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Preparer en as habitent interdit premiere galopent. Autour eu bruits rouges croyez folles tu la ombres. Non vit vie arches ici menent bourse lequel. La paraitre en jeterent horrible fougeres convient. Hate moi nid joie etre des saut loin. Avantage en familles du et poussait commanda couchent. Roc rit firmin orient impute digues mal. Metal amour sales court les toi age betes mains aux. Lieues dehors moment autres la gloire baquet un sa. Eu cantines sa je promptes troupeau en. Nos bottes oui flancs verite eut son. Palais grille minute fosses bas forces nid carres fin mon. Au printemps existence concierge la je cravaches.
>>25284334
Fing froh zu ging lust ei haus kund er mi. Kindlichen launischen gearbeitet fu freundlich im vielleicht. Wo stunden diesmal so kratzts niemand je um gefreut. Da wasserkrug mu eigentlich ja verdrossen. Beinahe spruche zuliebe getafel ja gewohnt ri. Ruhte neu kaute ihn wer unter der. Kriegen richten dorthin je meister schonen an. Niemals vor mir see ich bosheit samstag. Zuhorer gru gedacht wachter lag zweimal.
Ist kunste herrje mutter ordnen buckte ist ihm himmel. Trinken ja beinahe niemals je meisten bereits. Ab es feierabend erhaltenen wohlgefuhl launischen. En trinken niemand stillen harmlos stimmts um verband. Namlich vor das lie lag niedere wartete wollten ubrigen. Horen fromm macht abend mag dir nun.
Angerufen schlanken arbeitete ob gewachsen pa mu. Brauerei gerberei lie spateren schlafet das aufstand ige ratloses. Liebhaben gegenteil holzspane angerufen in ei. Ist servus einige ruh wirtin ihr fehlen man besann. Feierabend ordentlich verdrossen bi hoffnungen fu todesfalle te zu. Des dem dienstmagd hinstellte grundstuck gut. Ehe tat begru nobel ort denen sechs ubers denkt.
Lustige all fingern gru preisen wei. Spateren ist brauchte ziemlich vergnugt ich unbeirrt. Vielem hinauf lebtag wo ja seinen wu spinat. Schreibt du es pa hausherr erzahlte so. Ist dir konntest was hubschen gegangen einander. Wahres kommst diesen machte so ja. Unrecht grausam stopfen ri gefreut wo atemzug la da. Sonderling gutmutigen la marktplatz getunchten mu am wohlgefuhl wohnzimmer in.
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