>claims to be depressed or have social anxiety
>has friends, gf/bf, isn't a virgin
Seriously where do normals get this stuff?
when I see those girls online who talk about their social anxiety and depression i think wow so girls get me
then you find out how they have a boyfriend, friends and a normal life, I just think WTF, these lying bitches how dare they pretend to be like me
women are carried through life by white knights and they have ZERO self awareness about it
I want to fuck /mlp/-tan
For normalfags, social anxiety and introverted means going out every two weeks instead of every one
>>25272979
mfw when normies are appropriating muh conditions.
They want attention and appreciation from it so they can be treated as a soft special snowflake
A person with real depression or social anxiety doesn't show off or brag about it on social media
>>25273084
That girl is for raping.
She'd look cute being strangled.
>>25273128
Like this senpai?
I don't even know if it's the same girl as the one in the OP
>>25273123
>real depression
topkek
>>25273170
I don't believe depression exists either. I put real there so Depressedfags don't get their jimmies rustled
Yes the sole reason why one gets depressed is because they don't have a gf. Are you an actual child?
>>25273123
pretty much
I've spent the last 4 years figuring out methods as to hide my social anxiety and depression at all costs
>>25272979
why are you so bothered about what some homely looking basic does?
>>25273152
YES, except no ones choking the life out of her.
>>25272979
Normalfags piggyback on words' connotations. It is a subtler, connotative variant of equivocation. 'The definition of, say, depression is quantitative, you can't prove that my symptoms are milder than yours.' Thus they appropriate the term by watering it down, garnering sympathy for themselves (for the time being) and derision for genuinely, say, anxious people, in the longer term, when the society begins to find anxiety a 'meme condition' as a result of their reckless appropriation of it.
>>25273211
If you have actual depression you won't have the energy to seek out and maintain relationships
>>25272979
>BRAZZERS
You forgot "is a porn star" opie
>>25273123
exactly
it's like the "robots" that post theit faces to be rated
people that genuinely believe they're ugly wouldn't ever do that
>>25273269
>actual depression
topkek
>>25273268
When society as a whole views depression as a meme, people who are actually mentally ill will get a new word to call it, so they know who to take seriously and who to laugh at.
>>25273223
>does
please do not disrespect does by equating them to these slovenly boorish "women"
>>25272979
Source on top left pic?
>>25273313
Depression is a real thing and messes up the way your brain works physically. Quit being a noob
>>25273347
True, but this is just a 'term mill' that causes confusion. Either you have to awkwardly say 'I'm literally/genuinely/seriously x', or people will have to learn another term, rendering the, say, past literature less clear.
>>25273268
In other words, words strictly obey the laws of economy. Normalfags cause inflation of the words, say, 'anxiety' or 'depression', by making them more common (there being more nominal value in the society), but the value, 'describing/denoting power' corresponding to 'purchasing power', decreases, because the word doesn't refer to anything anymore.
>>25273313
I can't get upset or blame you guys for thinking its fake when 95% of "depression cases" are just sad normies that don't know the first thing about despair
>>25272979
God I want to rape mlp-tan dead
Being depressed is cool now, didn't you know?
>>25273415
Muh disease that the lady I pay $100 an hour to treat says I have.
topkek
>>25273416
You could perhaps draw an analogy to coin debasement of word debasement, whereby a normalfag referring to himself as 'having a serious condition' clips some of the 'denotative power' off the word, stashing it away (enjoying the private connotation of 'having a serious condition'), but taking from the public value of the word (corresponding to the stripped metal). I'm not sure yet.
>>25273439
Muh special rare case of a fake disease.
Nigga you not sick, you're just a fucking loser. That's why you're sad.
>>25273489
Clinical depression is in the same category of neurology as schizophrenia.
A person with clinical depression has as much control over their depression as a schizophrenic has with his hallucinations.
If you've ever MDMA or similar drugs. Being depressed is like having the feeling of the comedown all the time.
>>25273411
Finally found it
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>>25273574
Cancer is a disease nigga. Depression is huckster central.
>>25273574
stop it
there are stupid people on 4chan, then there are also stupid people on 4chan who think pretending to be stupid makes them smart
guess which one youre interacting with right now
>>25273592
imagine how pathetic and disgusting her beta orbiters are
>muh depression
>muh anxiety
must crawl back into the womb.
Well, you see, some people understand their problems and then try to fucking correct them.
You, as well as most of /r9k/ in general, however, just bitch about how bad you got it on the internets.
They're at least trying.
You're just fucking lazy.
This ACTUAL retarded nigga has a job and functions in society.
But the therapist mommy writes checks to says there is something wrong with me so I sit around and complain.
Kill yourselves faggots.
>>25273592
PERPETUATION OF WOMENS SOCIAL SUPERIORITY BY FAWNING OVER STUPID/AVERAGE LOOKING GIRLS LIKE A RETARDED DIK APE
>>25273734
That retard has likely never felt sadness in his life
His coworkers on the other hand probably wanted to kill themselves after having to be lumped in with a tard.
The 'you are just lazy, you are just finding excuses' normalfaggots are such a fucking nuisance, drowning any meaningful discussion of the subject we could have had.
I'm saying this as a person who has never been close to depression.
>>25273773
Oh is anon sad. Oh poor anon.
YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT SICK, YOU'RE SIMPLY FAILURES.
>>25273783
There is no meaningful discussion, because you're wrong.
The only reason why they're different from you is because they are working past their depression and you're just wallowing in it.
>>25273783
I'm just shocked that you huckster faggots don't like it when someone questions your hustle.
>>25273846
>you're just wallowing in it
I have literally never been close to depressed, anxious, autistic, or otherwise mentally ill and I'm still saying that you are just producing noise that keeps people from rationally separating nature and nurture in subjective impressions of powerlessness.
>>25273783
I mean I've been diagnosed with 'depression' but if I think hard about it I'm honestly just pretty lazy and can't find reason in doing anything with my life. Apparently this is a 'symptom' but to me it's more a cause.
>>25273846
>working past their depression
>you're just wallowing in it
Denying that people feel so shitty that they physically can't find the effort to move is pretty ignorant, just like saying 'man its just not real mayn those hallucinations arent reall brah just ignore them'
>>25272979
its called special snowflake syndrome. and there is no cure but beatings.
>>25273846
so am i correct in saying depression is as simple as it being in an on or off switch? do all people that suffer depression suffer it exactly the same? do all people that suffer depression have others to help them with their struggles? do all people with depression have the same economic advantages? do all depressed people feel exactly the same and have the same tools to get out of the hole as every other person that has dealt with depression?
>>25272979
It's almost like the ones you see doing this stuff are the ones who are attempting to, and succeeding, in dealing with their issues.
If they weren't, you wouldn't see them. Depression and anxiety are not unbeatable.
>>25273592
She's pretty cute. Shame I hate MLP.
>>25272979
i hate them i hate them i hate them i hate them i hate them i hate them i hate them REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE beta uprising when
>>25273871
Lol, they can't find the energy to physically move?
Bwahahahahahahahaha
Anon, I've got a beach house in Nebraska I think you might be interested in buying.
>>25273929
That's a pretty commonly reported symptom of depression, a complete apathy. I really don't understand what's so hilarious about it when there's thousands of anecdotes referencing that exact feeling. Sure it might not be a disease but it's still a problem that people have that they find pretty hard to overcome.
I should stop replying to this fucking bait desu
>>25273914
lol like omggg bobbeee like i also hate it when normies pretend to be depressed lamaoooo reeee beta uprisin when xd so cool to hate on them haha funny pic
>>25273896
Good post. This is exactly what I (>>25273783 and >>25273864) mean. Every economic, societal, familial, opportunity, stimulus, exhortation, to 'just beat it', can be scientifically correlated to, for instance, one's neurological condition -- is it sufficient to overcome it? When does a platitude manage to motivate, and when not? When is awareness of direness of one's living situation manage to motivate, and when does it fail? Normalfaggots silence study of those with their sweeping 'doesn't matter, you're just excusing laziness'. Belief in free will as always hindering progress whereby medicine could be found to help people.
>>25273970
>I should stop replying to this fucking bait desu
Not them, but it is not bait.
>>25273970
Wait, so the hucksters have a rap?
Oh, well then I take it all back.
>>25274012
By this logic, one would have to believe everyone on disability is disabled.
B-but they told me they where.
>>25273997
Sure seems like it senpai, why else would you be discussing the fact that depression isn't real on a board with a sizeable number of depressed shutins?
>>25274012
?
>>25273970
>I'm a complete loser who no one likes
>I'm ill and it's beyond my control
Which of these do you think these failures are going to adopt to even internally digest their miserable lives?
>>25273983
In other words, it is completely, thoroughly irrelevant if one (the stereotypical depressed robot) is 'just lazy' for failing to do something with their life ('fixing it') or not. Because at the end of the day, the question -- the responsibility -- which believers in free will consistently cowardly reject -- is to find *the kinds of motivation* which *do* manage to overcome the others'... 'laziness' or 'illness', whichever you prefer. Those solutions, those actually working motivators, might be environmental, chemical (pharmaceutical) or even eugenic. But empty blame, 'it is all your fault', is, well, empty. At the end of the day you have to face the realization that no matter your personal sentiments of 'what a lazy faggot', the best, most moral, you can do with your life is to try to think of ways which *do* penetrate others' illness/laziness -- discussion of which ways is pure science, again, pure correlation of exposing another person to a normie platitude versus a pill versus lending a listening ear, and so on. But blaming, that leads you nowhere.
>culture bound syndrome
>disease
pick one and only one
>>25274110
In yet other words, the laziest people ITT are people like >>25274107 who think that accusing people of laziness 'ought' to get them to fix their lives, and move the blame for ineffectuality of that 'advice' onto those people as well when it eventually fail. 'Waah, waah, why won't the world fix itself? Why can't the world just stop having problems? Why can't the world just be itself?'.
>>25274170
>>25274110
I mean, I too could go around telling people to 'just do' and 'just stop'. But I respect myself more than that.
Med student here. Depression is not a biological brain malfunction or disease.
Sorry, but fact.
>>25274204
I should have really wrote: 'Depression'.
>>25274107
I'm not saying that there aren't people hopping on the depression bandwagon for prescriptions, sympathy, a way to opt out of responsibility. Literally all I'm saying is that some people do have debilitating sadness through either stuff they've witnessed (experiences) or issues with brain chemistry (lack of serotonin), and these people do experience what could be diagnosed as 'depression'.
>>25274204
Correct. "Depression" is a pathological behaviour, it is in no way a disease.
>>25273836
What he is saying is true what you are saying is not.
>>25274277
>>25274279
You are talking to believers in free will. Belief in free will is a highly irresponsible worldview. Don't waste your time.
>>25274277
Nope. No issue with brain chemistry. That is complete hogwash.
>>25274278
Yup. Depression is as real of a disease as chronic overeating.
>>25274314
Free will?
If all else fails get real abstract huh?
>>25274384
I am not being abstract.
You are.
Cf. >>25274348. 'How do you stop being depressed? Oh, just stop having depressive thoughts! Just as you would stop overeating! kthxbye.'
Pure failure to regard the brain as a set of habits which are only malleable to certain thresholds of external pressure, again either environmental, chemical, or genetic. I am not being abstract -- I speak purely in terms of physical action and reaction of the brain. It is you who flee into abstractions, 'oh you just need to realize that you have control over your reactions', so to avoid responsibility for helping people.
Anons, therapists are not doctors. They will tell you whatever they need to, to keep the money flowing. You have poor behavior patterns, you are not sick.
>>25274466
>You have poor behavior patterns, you are not sick.
Another lazy coward.
Raid that disgusting whore plz
lets make it loud and clear,to send a message
>>25274433
I feel soy sorry whoever is footing the bill for your clearly deeply entrenched bullshit.
"special little people"
>>25274489
Let me say for the third time ITT, I have never in my life been anywhere close to depressed, anxious, autistic, having a personality disorder, or anything of that sort.
Isn't depression mainly a chemical thing where your brain just can't produce enough serotonin or whatever it is you need to make your mind happy?
>>25274506
Nope. Again, there is ZERO evidence that 'depression' is a biological brain malfunction. Absolutely none. "Depression" is a product of psychology.
>>25274504
(Again, I just refuse to blame people. When someone says they feel powerless, I find it low and cheap to tell them 'just stop' or 'this is just your thought patterns'. I am trying, or at least supposed, to relate this to nature and nurture and find at least three different motivators -- specific things to suggest to them based on their personality -- which they could enjoy and let rekindle their activity.)
Because normies have no decency. I was a no friends autist all through school when I got to college I got a few friends and now I'm just an autist. Now I'm terrified for them to know my past or say/do something retarded and go back to square one. But to people who never had a problem with social interaction it's just another way they can be "SO QUIRKY EXDEE" while they post on kikebook fishing for likes
>>25274574
In other words, robustness principle, YET again.
'Act as if you were the only person in the world who has free will.'
Lol, r9k is the same exact thing as tumblr. Except instead of muh eating disorder, it's muh depression.
Smh
>>25274685
Thatsthepoint.mkv
>>25272979
Two main reasons
1. its become synonymous with nervousness
>"omg! i presented today and i was nervous SOCIAL ANXIETY:D"
2. to feel like a special snowflake. they do this with many other disorders like psychopathy and depression, its all part of the "wahh im a cute girl who needs a handsome chad to cuddle me and sooth my overexadurated insecurity's"
>>25273856
why do you even come here? seriously, you have never been to a mental health facility, and chances are that you are a normie.mwhat are you doing here and why? this is a place for people with (sometimes severe) mental problems. why do you come here? can you not just go back to wherever you came from?
>>25273899
>Depression and anxiety are not unbeatable.
without medication/ threatment, I would argue that it basically is unless you got a lighter version.
>>25274935
I imagined this pic in head earlier today.
I actually wanted to shoop something like this. weird.
>>25274935
they use psychopathy to look dangerous and mysterious but if they knew a thing about psychos they would know that they don't tell others about it
>>25274204
there are physical causes for depression in your brain.
just saying.
>WAAHH I did a basic biology course I am the king of the world all the real scientists are wrong
We're the real crazy ones; they're posers.
God, you people are not only pathetic, you're lame.
>>25275045
Nope. Complete clinging to straws made up nonsense.
>>25275045
Kek. Go ask your MD to treat your depression. Let us know what happens.
>>25273734
As someone that has worked with retards, he sure as shit is not functioning at that job. I despise that society forces these poor people to have employment.
>>25272979
Everything about social anxiety aside: some people are really shitty people who are never satisfied or happy.
Nigga could be literally drowning in friends like that pic and go "I'm so lonely" because they constantly want more and more.
>>25275136
>>25275159
if there is no neurological issue, why is electroconvulsive therapy so successful in depressed patients? does it shock the bad behavior patterns away?
I agree that some things in psychotherapy are badly researched and many have been made a meme by society.
However, you guys are just as bad as those creationists that say the dinosaurs died out because they where to dumb to climb mountains in the great flood
>disregard all science
>spew memes to make yourself feel superior
>do that unironically
>>25273269
>>25273871
>>25274277
>>25273415
>Depression is a real thing and messes up the way your brain works physically.
There's no such thing as a physical test to prove whether or not you have depression. In real life when it's "diagnosed", it's almost always just by talking to a quack about how you feel.
The chemical imbalance hypothesis is nothing but a completely unproven hypothesis, there is no way to test for a "chemical imbalance".
>>25273574
>Clinical depression is in the same category of neurology as schizophrenia.
Schizophrenia isn't real either. Of course psychosis is real, of course hallucinations are real, of course being crazy is real, but schizophrenia is a pseudo-scientific label that was created in the early 20th century to give a "legitimate" psychiatric label for "crazy".
Of course there's sad/lethargic people, come back to me when you can prove with a physical test that there's a neurological disease in your brain which you pinpoint is causing your sadness and bad emotions, then I'll accept you telling me your sadness is a real medical issue/disease.
>>25274433
>>25274506
>>25275045
See: >>25276308
>>25275317
> why is electroconvulsive therapy so successful in depressed patients?
It's not and it's usually regarded as an inhumane outdated practice.
>>25274974
Complete joke.
>>25276308
>Of course psychosis is real, of course hallucinations are real, of course being crazy is real, but schizophrenia is a pseudo-scientific label
'Everything that a term denotes is real, but the term itself that denots it is suddenly magically not real and is pseudoscientific!'
That's like saying that consequences of consuming alcohol in terms of accident-proneness and violence and coordination are real, but the term 'intoxication' is not real.
I have never seen an anti-psychiatrist quack grasp at ways in which to infuse a psychiatric term with negative connotations in such a pitiful way.
>>25276522
Do you think I'm arguing that for no reason? The label itself causes many issues.
When you have an illegitimate label created by a pseudo-science to advance their ideology and push their agenda like this, I have a problem with it.
Often the psychiatric labels themselves can cause more harm than the actual issues they're meant to describe. The labels are used to push what psychiatrists want, without the labels (that are almost entirely voted into existence by the APA), psychiatry wouldn't even be the same thing. The drugs wouldn't be pushed the same way, the stigmas wouldn't be placed on people the same way, laws regarding psychiatry would be completely different, general cultural sentiment about psychological issues would be completely different, etc.
The labelling system itself causes a mass amount of harm. I'm not just arguing semantics and being picky over words.
>>25277027
Your post is literally just 'field x is really, really, really, really evil because it makes mistakes that necessarily follow from its using a term'. It's literally just 'police is really, really, really, really evil because it makes mistakes'.
It would be worthless even if there weren't the vile anti-psychiatric agenda behind it, which I deeply hope you would have the heart not to espouse had you just once seen a mentally ill person.
Robin Williams was depressed and he was famous, had a kid, etc.
What are you getting at?
>>25277027
And how do you imagine 'psychiatry without labels', anyway? 'I want some medication for the, uh, wink-wink you-know-what'? 'I think my aunt is suffering from "the thing" again, can you please come'? You are as retarded as you are evil for thinking that your post could make sense to anyone.
>>25277157
In other words, words *necessarily* come into being as soon as there is a need for them. Psychiatric terms will *always* be there as long as there are mental illnesses. Your vile censorship so to discourage people from seeking treatment is completely impotent.
>>25277118
> which I deeply hope you would have the heart not to espouse had you just once seen a mentally ill person.
I've been called "mentally ill" before, I've seen the inside of psych wards as a teenager, I've come into contact with psychiatry, I've come into contact with many "mentally ill" people, I live around the crazies and junkies, and I've seen all the despicable acts psychiatry commits, which I think should be illegal.
Psychiatry is a pseudo-science. It's not that they make mistakes, it's that they fundamentally are a mistake.
If you had any heart and understood the issue, if you could see the reality of the system, you would be disgusted by it. I've seen them do horrible things to children, and they weren't mistakes, it's the accepted fundamentals of psychiatry.
>>25277240
>I've seen the inside of psych wards as a teenager
Whom were you visiting?
normies allways claim to have "anxiety" or be introverts because its cool to have mental issues now. When in reality they are all normal extroverted people with no anxiety issues whatsoever aside from basic nervousness in certain situations.
>>25277240
>Psychiatry is a pseudo-science.
Will you be a liar as boldfaced as to pretend to have an argument as opposed to the vacuous sophistry which you've already displayed whereby 'illness is relative' and 'illness is just a different way of seeing the world' and 'psychiatric labels are just labels' and 'illnesses don't exist, just their symptoms do'?
Because you are aware that it is thoroughly irrelevant.
>>25277157
>'I want some medication for the, uh, wink-wink you-know-what'?
Mind altering harmful drugs almost never help psychological issues, in fact it's usually the opposite. They recklessly throw these drugs around, we have children on amphetamines and told they have a disease simply because they don't pay attention in school.
You don't have to go into a quack and try to get a bullshit label to receive help for a psychological issue, I don't know why you're implying you do.
>In other words, words *necessarily* come into being as soon as there is a need for them. Psychiatric terms will *always* be there as long as there are mental illnesses.
Mental illness is not a real thing. I'm fine with you DISCOVERING neurological diseases, what I am not fine with is the APA voting into existence "mental illnesses".
> Your vile censorship so to discourage people from seeking treatment is completely impotent.
It's not treatment.
>>25277313
>>25277240
In other words, as I already explained, you are safely, securely slandering psychiatry knowing that the professionals won't stop helping people either way. You are a reprehensible coward, finding yourself a safe target.
>>25277313
>Will you be a liar as boldfaced as to pretend to have an argument as opposed to the vacuous sophistry which you've already displayed whereby 'illness is relative' and 'illness is just a different way of seeing the world' and 'psychiatric labels are just labels' and 'illnesses don't exist, just their symptoms do'?
hahaha what
>>25277377
I'm partly quoting that anon from another thread he made a couple of days ago.
>>25277336
>I'm fine with you DISCOVERING neurological diseases, what I am not fine with is the APA voting into existence "mental illnesses".
This is just 'no true psychiatry', making psychiatry by definition concerned with non-neurological conditions, 'if psychiatry has contributed to neurological research and insofar as it is concerned with it, it is not psychiatry, but science'.
Your embarrassing yourself has just reached the obvious stage. I no longer have to post in this thread.
>>25277313
> 'illness is relative' and 'illness is just a different way of seeing the world' and 'psychiatric labels are just labels' and 'illnesses don't exist, just their symptoms do'?
Lets back up now, you must have not read my earlier posts: >>25276308
>>25277260
I was the victim of being held in one myself.
If they ever ask you "have you ever thought of committing suicide", and you say "probably/maybe/yes", they'll send you to a psych ward. If you get angry in a hospital setting, they'll probably send you to a psych ward. If you act out as a teenager, they'll probably send you to a psych ward. It's not very hard at all to land in one as a teenager.
>>25277377
nice. czeck'd
bloxbloxbl0x
>>25272979
They all want to be a special snow fake as fell as a fetish for being the victim.
>>25277351
The only reason I speak out against psychiatry is because I've seen the horrible things it causes, and I want less harm caused to people, not the opposite.
>>25277411
>> 'illness is relative' and 'illness is just a different way of seeing the world' and 'psychiatric labels are just labels' and 'illnesses don't exist, just their symptoms do'?
>
>Lets back up now, you must have not read my earlier posts: >>25276308
Nice of you to remind readers ITT of a post of yours to which I replied with >>25276522.
I have become aware of existence of posters like you. Your mode is of quantity, not quality. You just repeat yourself over threads, hoping that there are too few people to point out your sophistry. And you are right.
>>25277449
>Your mode is of quantity, not quality
I don't want to keep arguing you know.
>You just repeat yourself over threads,
That's why I just quoted one of my posts instead of repeating the same thing, right?
>>25277490
Over *threads*, not over *posts*.
>>25277529
I never post on /r9k/, Excluding this thread, I've made maybe less than 10 posts on /r9k/ in the past several years.
>>25277568
Then you will find a mirror spirit in http://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/25139593/ .
>>25272979
Jokes on you, OP. I've been diagnosed with major depressive disorder and generalized anxiety disorder. Yet, I still have friends, I've had relationships, and I'm not a virgin.
