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>women then
>married young
>had no pre-marital partners
>devoted their lives to taking care of the house and children while men worked to financially support them

>women now
>want to spend their youth "having fun" and their education in women's studies and art
>have sex with a minimum of 20 different partners before hitting their expiration date
>want to settle down in the twilight of their lives
>have no idea how to raise children, cook, or clean properly
>want lives outside of the household even after marriage

Where did things go wrong?
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if you don't like it, don't buy it
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>where did things go wrong

When they were allowed to own property and to vote
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>>25265072
If you only have tasteless, unhealthy food available to you, just stop eating! What could possibly go wrong?
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>>25265097
>implying that's the only option
No faggot, there are plenty of women like the first group that you described. Plenty of wonderful women left. I married one.
Quit being a faggot and go find them if that's who you want to date.

There's still plenty of them.
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>>25265072
cuck f4ggot
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>>25265055
People realized life is supposed to be enjoyed.
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>>25265097
learn to cook you homo
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>>25265131
>I've only had 2 sexual partners before, anon
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>>25265055
They've been allowed to make their own terrible life decisions instead of having them decided for them by men/society
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>>25265144
2 is a lot. Not what I meant. The women I'm describing aren't even all that hard to find, you just have to try.
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>>25265097
You're not going to die if you don't marry a slut.
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>>25265223
>under 16

Thanks Mohammed
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>mens entire lives revolve around wanting to have sex
>modern women actually have sex before marriage
>men get really upset about this

male logic
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>>25265256
I'm in my mid-20s. Still not hard. If you just try, you can find them pretty easily.
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>>25265241
You're not going to reproduce if you become celibate.

>>25265223
They are next to impossible to find without going out of your way to join an orthodox religion
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>>25265275

It's because we want exclusive sex, not sharing sex
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>>25265055
Why the fuck do you even care you autist
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>>25265055
Letting women into the workplace fucked over much of the economy

Women and feminists don't realize how good they had it after marriage in the 50s

Literally no work was asked of them besides vacuuming the house and feeding the kids. Most of their day was lounging around.

They got theirs, they fuckin got thiers
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>>25265304
>You're not going to reproduce if you become celibate.

You're not going to die if you don't reproduce either. It literally doesn't matter to anybody but you. And if that's so important then maybe you should just marry a post-wall slut so she can have your kids.

You can't just expect everything to be perfect. It's not an idyllic world and this is no exception. If women are too gross for you, you literally never have to commit. I'm not saying you never have to have sex, but if you don't want to marry this empowered sexual woman everybody is talking about, you literally don't have to.

If marriage and kids is more important than your pride or whatever then you have to pony up and marry a used goods woman who has had more fun sucking cocks and getting choked and pounded and free dinners and fun activities than you could have in ten lifetimes.

Just accept reality is all.
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>>25265364
yeah, they got fucked over HARD. They honestly believe that every second man would beat the shit out of his wife for not having the roast cooked just right back then. Combine that with the fact that they want to feel cool and sophisticated and quirky like all the girls in the media they're desperate to emulate and you find out why women aren't having kids anymore.
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fuck you veronica.
FUCK YOU.
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>Boo hoo my life partner will have had more sex than me because I am bad at dealing with other people

Give me a fucking break. 99% of /r9k/ would, given the chance between all women having one partner or they themselves having 20, pick the latter.
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>>25265419
I don't want 20 partners. I can't even imagine having intimate contact with more than 5-10 people in my life separately. That sounds insane.
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>>25265304
>You're not going to reproduce if you become celibate.
reproducing shouldn't be a life goal. there are already way too many people here, and if you suck so much that you cant find a decent woman to mate with, maybe you shouldnt spread your shit genes.
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>>25265382
>They honestly believe that every second man would beat the shit out of his wife for not having the roast cooked just right back then.

I hate when they say this.

Don't forget all of the marital rape!
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>Ride dick from the age of 18 - 30
>Literally one night stands all the time, lots of boyfriends, maybe a few serious relationships
>Work a job in HR or Marketing, something that's really not that important but they themselves think it's the shit and the world owes them something.
>Hit 28, looks start to fade, male attention is still on younger girls.
>Realise time to settle down and marry and have kids with some fucking beta cuck provider
>Chances are marriage wont last, will divorce and the kids will be with her while the dad pays the bill.

That's the average white woman in todays world.
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>>25265097
You can go vegan
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>>25265419
All I want is one tbqh. Don't project family
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>>25265484
if it ever gets to the point where a husband rapes her woman, the husband is morally wrong but so is the woman for being a fucking awful wife who doesn't satisfy the man she swore an oath of loyalty too.

That having been said, I don't think marital rape should be illegal, simply because it's impossible to prove what is and isn't rape within the confines of a consensual (and supposedly lifelong) relationship.

To be honest marriage was better before the fucking french got a hold of it, it needs to be viewed within the lens of a social contract for the purpose of raising healthy children rather than blowing 100 grand on a nice ring and materialist ceremony for two people whose "love" will last five years at best.
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>>25265491
>Work a job in HR or Marketing

Holy shit, the entire HR and Marketing departments at my shitty wageslave job are female
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>>25265369
>You're not going to die if you don't reproduce either.
It's a lesser death. The whole purpose of staying alive is to increase reproductive success, if that helps you understand my earlier analogy. Before my brother was born, I'd have probably killed myself if I found out I was infertile.

>And if that's so important then maybe you should just marry a post-wall slut so she can have your kids.
That and all other available options are so blatantly inferior to returning to tradition. Not just for me personally, but also for the future of the West. Life in the West is like being forced to play a losing strategy in a team game over and over again, despite having pointed out the strategy that has been proven to work to your teammates multiple times.

>>25265460
>there are already way too many people here, and if you suck so much that you cant find a decent woman to mate with, maybe you shouldnt spread your shit genes.
Tell that to Africa you little Jew, not /r9k/
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>>25265540
Stay away from those women lad.
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>>25265535

So if a man isn't ready for kids and refuses to get his wife pregnant would it be ok for the wife to rape him in his sleep to get knocked up?
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>>25265546
im personally in favor of wiping the enrire population of africa desu. not even being edgy, i just think it would significally help this planet.
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>>25265575
Yes.

He shouldn't have gotten married if he didn't want kids.
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>>25265575
I see this logic applied time and time again. Within proper marriage, the man is the head of the household. This was made clear in the oaths sworn at the altar by the husband in wife, oaths that are still often sworn (though now optionally) by many women today.

I don't understand what is so hard to understand about this, the man makes the executive decisions. He decides when and what house you buy, how money is spent, how many children are had and the like.

Before you say anything; it's not a double standard. Both genders have different roles in wider society and different duties within the institution of marriage.
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>>25265144

fuck I really enjoyed that thread man

thanks
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>>25265631
So the man is the head of the household, but he should take no part in raising the kids, cooking or cleaning? Doesn't seem like much a head of the household. He can bring in the bills and decide how money is spent but without the housewife there wouldnt be much of a household for him to "manage".
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>>25265055
Virgin girls are really not hard to find. Let's face it they're the girls that are in our league that we don't want and pretend only wants chad because they're not always pleasing to look at.
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>>25265672
So you're saying I should settle for some fat, ugly, disgusting cunt?

Thanks bud
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>>25265624

Well at least you're not a hypocrite but you have got a double shit opinion so I'm not sure if that's better.

>>25265631

There's nothing wrong with that until it infringes on the liberty of an individuals body, if you want to argue for traditional gender roles may I recommend not attempting to justify rape.
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>>25265663
the role of the housewife is to support the husband. The husband pays for the house, he pays for the food and should also help with the socialising and discipling of the kids. The wife nurtures the children, cleans the house and prepares the food that the man earns them.

Your logic is total nonsense, without frycooks there wouldn't be a McDonald's to manage, does this mean the manager's role is in any way less worthwhile?
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>>25265687
Why should Stacy settle for a fat cunt like yourself anon, live within your means
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>>25265687
I mean, that's what most robots are anyway so pretty much yeah.
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>>25265690
I believe marriage should be as binding as any contract, while married you're in a constant state of consent. If your husband abuses you, such as forcing you to act out fetishes that make you uncomfortable or having sex while you're seriously ill, that's grounds for divorce or counselling. As far as the actual act of sex however, any decent wife should be willing to give it away whenever it is desired by her husband.
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>>25265055
Women were never like that, you retarded autist. They have always had sex and
whored around.
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>>25265712
>your logic is total nonsense
Not him but if you presented this argument to anyone who wasn't a jaded beta you would be laughed out of the room
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>>25265055
>Women used to be pure!
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>>25265723
>>25265735
How often do you see fat/ugly anons in face threads? Most here are average looking people who happen to lack social skills.
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>>25265723
>>25265735
but I'm a skelly m8 and I try to take care of myself
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>>25265055
>>women then
>>married young
>>had no pre-marital partners
Uhh, not sure about this pal. Women have always been women. I don't have first hand experience with this, but judging from some novels I've read focusing around these times, it seems that women kinda always liked to trash around with Chads.
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>>25265749
Normal people lack any knowledge of history and only take opinions that are considered socially acceptable within the current society. Saying that the average person (you said "not a jaded beta" but we both know what you mean) isn't exactly a valid point.
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>>25265763
Then go for someone you like and if you fail don't make an assblasted post about it on the internet like a functioning human being
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>tfw I'm now 30 and finally having some success with women but they want to "settle down"
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>>25265275
>100% of men are preoccupied with fucking tons of sluts
You saw it here folks, women literally do not even consider the fact that men other than Chad exist.

Other people with Y chromosomes do, but they're eunuchs so they don't count as "male."
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>>25265785

go ahead and become their beta provider

it is your destiny
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>>25265741

The problem with that argument is contracts have a way to back out of them, for example if you sign a contract with a plastic surgeon to fix your nose but then on the day you change your mind he can't go fuck you asshole you've wasted my time and force a rhinoplasty on you.

Note how you dodged the question about the wife getting knocked up from the husband while he's asleep since you know that would feel horrible but want to ignore that for le ebin reactionary opinions.
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>>25265134
While this did happen, the idea that life is meant to be enjoyed is not true. At all.
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>>25265853
So what's the purpose of life then bud?
Reproducing? That reduces human life to nothing more than an animal

Pretty fucking sad mate
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>>25265840
But I didn't ignore it you fucking dunce, I responded that different things are expected from the man and the woman within the framework of marriage, and that the man has different obligations from the woman.

>there are ways to opt out

You mean divorce?

Any ways, I'm around 90% positive at this point that I'm speaking to a woman, so I'm not likely to reply after this post.
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>>25265785
And you don't have to. Since you have some monmon and stability you can just date younger girls.
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>>25265863
>nothing more than an animal
What did you think that we were?

>Pretty fucking sad mate
If your expectations don't align with reality, it's your fault for coming up with a worldview contrary to fact, not the world's for not suddenly changing to suit you after billions of years of being the way that it is.
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>>25265914
Animals don't build civilizations, nor do they have language or culture

Humans are exceptional in that regard
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>>25265663

Providing is a lot harder than cleaning and rearing children, dumb cunt.
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>>25265933
I seriously suggest you look up the definition of animal.
>>25265937
they're both equally challenging and worthwhile roles that require a different mindset to be successful at
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>>25265055
>women then
>lived in an era where you weren't alive

>women now
>have never talked to you and will never talk to you

it's great that you can become an expert on things you have absolute zero empirical knowledge about. but it's okay, at least you have stacks and stacks of peer-reviewed studies that conclude "women today ride the cock carousel like unicorns"
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>>25265975
Are you seriously denying that women today are having more casual sex than women from, say, 100 years ago?
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>>25265964
>I seriously suggest you look up the definition of animal.

Doesn't matter since you're never gonna reproduce anyway amirite?
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>>25265996
>Doesn't matter since you're never gonna reproduce anyway amirite?
What did he mean by this?
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>>25265996
Your obsession with sexual performance leads me to believe that you're actually massively insecure about your own ability to get laid.

>is proven wrong
>resorts to insults

lmao
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>>25265992
it entirely depends on the woman. there were definitely thots back then who didn't talk much about what they were doing, definitely housewives who got some deliveries of milk while the husband was out working. and there are still women out there who have very few sexual partners throughout their lives, but you wouldn't know because you don't know a single woman.
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>>25265869

So respond directly to what you'd think of a woman raping her husband in his sleep. Would she be in the wrong because she doesn't respect her husbands decision not to have kids yet? What if he just doesn't want to have sex?

To elaborate on the the plastic surgeon analogy if it says in the contract that you waste his time and back out at the last minute you might have to pay a financial penalty, so if the couple get divorced then the wife wouldn't be elegantly for alimony or child support since wanting to get divorced over your wife never having sex with you is reasonable grounds, as long as you didn't go ahead and rape her of course.

However the whole thing is memetastic since no one rapes anyone else because they don't get enough sex it's just another method of abusing someone.
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>>25265072
This, honestly. Marry yourself, and dedicate your life to you and your artificially inseminated children.
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>>25266053
You're right anon, I have never met a single woman my entire life. I went straight from the arms of my mother into the hands of a male dr. who, in joint operation with his male psychiatrist boyfriend, raised me in total social isolation my entire life as part of a twisted experiment.

Grow up.

>>25266064
>would she be in the wrong
Yes.
>would the husband be in the wrong?
No, because the whole reason a woman marries a husband is to bear him children and raise those children. The husband is in charge of finance, so when he decides he can support children, they have children.
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>>25266102

So what if he just doesn't want to have sex?
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>>25266102
meeting women and knowing them are two different things. do you even know who your mother's sexual partners have been? how can you presume to know the lives of billions of strangers?
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>>25266072
What kind of fucked up doctor would artificially inseminate a child?
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>>25266053
>it entirely depends on the woman

Irrelevant comeback.

We're talking about women. Not specific women.

Women are bigger whores today than they were in any time throughout history

Fact
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>>25266102

chances are your mom really is where you're basing this all on
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>>25266138

And what about the state of the modern man? The modern man can barely provide for himself never mind a family.

INB4 chicken and egg argument about which is a reaction to the other.
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>>25266138
you sound like a tumblrina
>Blacks can't be racist because whites have all the power
>if a white man walked into a Black neighborhood, he would have zero power
>that's a specific situation it doesn't apply!

seriously, look at what you are saying. you are making a generalization in a macrosociological analysis based on averages, and then stating it in such a way as to act as if it were fully relevant to the lives of every single woman. if it's just "in general" what does it matter to you? if you don't seek out sluts, you should find women who fit your type.
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>>25266127
he's probably in the marriage to cover up being a homosexual, or has some sort of other disorder. They should take it to counselling and if that fails to resolve things the woman should divorce him.
>>25266129
This may be hard for you to believe but I actually have a social life. I know dozens of women, I go to social events with them and can clearly see that they're not virgin brides.
>>25266142
Whatever helps you sleep at night sweetheart.
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>>25266175
>can clearly see that they're not virgin brides
so you attach spycams to them to find out exactly how much dick they're getting
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>>25266171
but women, as a whole, have more casual sex nowadays. This is a fact and it's entirely reasonable for him to base his argument on societal trends. You're attempting to compare an anecdote with an abysmal sample size to the statement that white men do not have power in a black neighbourhood, one of these is not like the other.
>>25266213
No they all gossip and men and women on both sides talk about who they've been fucking recently, christ you really are dense aren't you?
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>>25265369
Spoken like a true cuck who gave up long ago.
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>had no premarital partners
They hid it better. There were still extramarital and premarital affairs aplenty back then. It just wasn't polite to bring it up.
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>>25266252
nobody's claiming that women never had premarital partners, but their were time periods where a woman's hymen was inspected before marriage. Your premise is pretty shaky and doesn't have anything to stand on, the truth is that premarital sex among both genders is trending on the up.
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>>25266229
>this is a fact
saying it's a fact and proving it's a fact are two different things. you have done only the former. I understand why you think this way, but without any actual hard evidence it's really just speculation based on your own prejudices.

even if you were right, so what? even if women as a whole have more sexual partners, how is this relevant to individual encounters? white men statistically have more money and control more companies than do people of any other race in the Western world, does that make you a greedy corporate asshole, presuming you are white? it's literally the same brand of logic, not understanding how to draw the line between macro and micro

>they all talk about who they've been fucking recently
I can't say I've never met a woman who talks openly about her sexual activity, but I've also met a larger amount of women who won't. I've also met many women who claim to be virgins or otherwise sexually inexperienced. If I want to go with your level of paranoia, I can assume they're lying, but if I were being logical I would also have to assume that women who talk a lot about their sex lives have an equal chance of lying in equal degrees. Or I can assume the ones who say they've had a lot of sex aren't lying, the ones who say they haven't are lying, and make this conjecture on the basis that women are prone to having lots of sex these days. Where will I take this basis from? I will conjecture it from the fact that women talk a lot about having had sex, and lie when they don't of course. I will then refuse to have any level of self-awareness when my notions are challenged.

Or I can just not be a fucking aspie.
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>>25266305
>their were time periods where a woman's hymen was inspected before marriage

And there was and is still a practice to put chicken blood on the sheets to show the parents since it's always been one big joke.
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>>25265055
>Where did things go wrong?
The sexual revolution and the invention of the contraceptive pill.
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It's like they turned into men, oh wow.
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>>25266175
>he's probably in the marriage to cover up being a homosexual, or has some sort of other disorder. They should take it to counselling and if that fails to resolve things the woman should divorce him.

But not the other way around right?

And is it bad for her to just go ahead and fuck him in his sleep?

I'm giving you permission to get mad at a woman for victimizing a man here but you can't take it because it fucks with your poor grasp of traditional gender roles lmao.
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>>25265785
Date younger whores bro
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>>25266246
The only difference between you and I is that you're complaining and I'm not.
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>>25266330
It's readily apparent that woman have more sexual partners than they used to, this is self evident. The fucking hymen used to be inspected to insure virginity before marriage. I am a student, I know women, lots of women. Very very few of those women are virgins.

>so what

Because when you look for a partner you select from the pool of single women, and if you want a virgin (or x number of sexual partners) it becomes increasingly harder to find one as promiscuity goes up. There's also the issue of STDs, HPV for example is massively on the rise, yet only women in my country are getting vaccinations. Promiscuity therefore actively endangers the health of not just promiscuous people, but anyone who has any physical contact with a promiscuous person.

>I've never met women who talk about sex

So what you're saying is you'r either a shutin loser (ironically enough, what you were accusing me of) or you've just never went to university?

>>25266394
>but not the other way round, right?
What? If the woman is refusing to fuck the man, he should absolutely take it to counselling, and divorce her if the problem persists.

You're going in circles at this point. I've answered multiple times what I believed and I refuse to answer it again. This is why I originally considered not responding to you, because women argue in circles and can never concede anything.
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>>25265975
I can smell the roast beef toasting
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>>25265964
>they're both equally challenging and worthwhile roles

Not if you're a lazy cunt. Tell your kids to clean the house for you. If they say "oh it's hard" you say they're spoiled bastards.
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>>25266507
if they refuse you should spank them, womyn hate doing that shit so it can be a hard job. Not to mention younger ones can't help with domestic chores at all.
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>>25265760
Of course only the decent looking normie ones from soc would post their faces
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>>25266540
>if they refuse you should spank them

So I should spank my wife if she doesn't do the chores. Okay serves that bitch right
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>>25266579
actually yes, yes you should.
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>>25266445
>it's readily apparent
>this is self evident
once again, saying something is true and proving something is true are too different things. the most basic attempt at an argument you could possibly make is saying "it's true because it's obviously true." This is simply fallacious, you haven't established anything, you simply want me to believe you because it makes your life easier if we abandon inconvenient things like logic and evidence before we present conclusions.

>I know women, few are virgins
again, how do you know? are you really always around to hear them talk and can you confirm their honesty? and how do you know that all those pleasant young housewives in the 50s were actually virgin before marriage? go on, I'll wait for your proof.

>blah blah extrapolating averages
if you have 20 women in a room, and one woman has sucked 40 dicks, then on average every woman in the room has sucked 2 dicks. do you get it yet, or are you going to continue to entertain tumblr-level statistics?

>you're a shut-in or were never a student
I've graduated from an American university and also studied at three other universities in two other countries. my experience is that some women are promiscuous, some women only have sex with their significant others, and some women don't have sex at all. regardless of averages, I can find what I want by establishing what I'm looking for and by being a compatible male. If I tell women around me I am looking for a stable, long-term relationship with a chance of marriage and no immediate expectation of sex, my chance of find a woman who's had few or zero sexual partners dramatically increases and sluts will stay away because our zones do not intersect.

your experiences are very limited, yet you're using them to complete a cross-analysis of women on a micro level across the world. you know nothing.

>>25266474
hurr
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>>25266812
why are you assuming that the amount of turbosluts is dragging up the average to the point that the average statistic isn't representative of most women? Why are you assuming who the vast majority of teenage girls who lose their virginity are lying about it? You claim to be rational, but you seem to have some pretty strong bias yourself.
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>>25265564
Tell me your story anon
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>>25265055
The text book explanation is that in the past, while women might have a job gutting fish, the men would be spending days at sea or 12 hours down a coal mine and come home exhausted or something. The home had to be the woman's responsibility.

The feminist explanation is the "patriarchy" conspiracy theory. All men would have to be frothing at the mouth psychopaths in order for this conspiracy to work, maybe a few were, but it doesn't explain everything.

Biology provides some explanation, there is an overwhelming amount of evidence that there are behavioral differences between men and women, the different behavior of gays and lesbians only proves there are mechanisms influencing brain development in the womb, so it is completely reasonable and backed up by facts to add women's natural inclination to raising children as a factor.

There is a problem with these views however. Why is this only happening to such extremes in the west?
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>>25267091
because we're successful. it makes people soft. it's also not just the west, it happens in japan and south korea too.
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>>25267145
south korea is highest south pole proximity korea
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Just don't marry and wrap up.
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This whole thread is one guy samefagging
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Jews infiltrated
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Tell me what's wrong with the current state of affairs without resulting to 1) muh tradition; or 2) muh STDs.

The majority of people have no problem with how things are.
STDs are not a problem. Anyone with half a brain can avoid them.
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>>25267568
>tell me how this is bad
>but don't use these two points

Okay, well the fact that hookup culture combined with condoms, the pill etc. is leading to a massive drop in birth rate. First world countries have to import migrants just to stop their population from crashing.
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>>25267568
>Anyone with half a brain can avoid them.
This is the problem. Current trends in relationships with regards to fidelity and STD transmission show that people with increasingly larger pools of partners poses a greater risk for instability in future relationships and contracting an STD.
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"A young man from the Black Sea area asked him what kind of wife to marry, 'If she's ugly you'll be swearing, if she's pretty you'll be sharing.'"

-Antisthenes

Women were always worthless, senpai.

Take the black pill already.
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>>25266161
The modern man is indeed physically castrated and he is weak inside and out.
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>>25267607
You're welcome to use the "muh tradition" argument if you can explain why tradition matters.
>massive drop in birth rate
>Anti-natalism is bad
Who cares if first world populations die out? Of what consequence is it to you?
>>25267644
Why does it matter if future relationships are less stable? Surely you're against this sort of person retiring into a stable relationship.
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>>25265055
Wow, OP, you actually believe the nostalgia goggles meme? Do you even know what the Hays Code is? Have you ever read any of the accounts of 1920's Berlin or Budapest?
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>>25265055
>men now
>want to spend their youth "haivng fun" and sitting in a bedroom in their parents' house playing video games
>want to have sex with a minimum of 20 different partners before committing
>want to settle down in the twilight of their lives
>have no idea how to raise children, cook, or clean properly
>wants to spend all is time at the bar with his buddies even after marriage
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>>25267816
>of what consequence is it to you
holy fuck do you have brain problems? How does society just disappearing over the course of a generation affect me?
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>>25267877
It's that obvious, is it? Then you'll have no problem explaining.
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hahahahahaha this thread is so stupid everyone in this thread has no idea what they're talking about and the original post is just so painfully written like a 14 year old who is a nice guy why don't girls like me would write before manning up and not learning to blame their own insecurities and issues onto others

there are people who are saying women shouldn't be in the workplace or how marital rape isn't really rape as an attempt to fit into this guise of being "redpilled" (read: dumb)

by the way you guys talk, i bet you guys think gay marriage is "immoral" and defies the sanctity of straight marriages or something stupid like that
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>>25267853

Ideally, we don't want to get married or have children
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>>25267926
I'm actually stunned by your stupidity, holy shit.
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>>25265631
>>25265631
I don't want any of that shit though. I want to decide which house to buy, when to buy it, how to spend the money, how many children to have etc. If the oaths place all this power in the hans of the man I will not swear them unless they are changed to place equal amount of power in my hands. I will not stand for any piece of shit's disgusting, unsatisfying, damaging decisions. And if he attempts to use force he deserves death for it.
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>>25267853
>have no idea how to raise children, cook, or clean properly

this is becoming less and less frequent. if anything it's women who are progressively losing that knowledge due o refusing the notion of being the ones who take care of the household.

with men taking that role much more often and with tech everywhere making learning it all easier it's pretty much the opposite. neets are a non-factor because they usually only last until their parents die and have low chance of ever having kids.
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>>25267929

r9k's attitudes about women, sex and just life in general are pretty psychotic overall
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>>25267989
>Still no argument
hurr ur so dumm
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>ctrl +F jews
>1 result
jesus christ /r9k/
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>>25265055

>Wanting to get married

What a fucking beta you are. Also women today still wanna get married, that's actually why I broke up with my last gf
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>>25265535
If a piece of shit man attempts to rape me when I don't want to have sex with him, even if he's my husband, he's asking to be killed.

This is why the marriage contract needs to be revised and why I won't marry any man who doesn't accept a very detailed and binding pre-nuptial. Too many assholes presuming shit.
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>>25267991
You'll find plenty of men whipped enough to enter this sort of relationship with you. Enjoy your share of the house and your crushing dissatisfaction and crushing loneliness following the divorce, I guess.
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Personally, I don't care.
Women are so stupid that they can't see that being whores doesn't actually benefit them, but I on the other hand can sit back and laugh when they're used up whores at 30 working minimum wage or relying on welfare.
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>>25267750

"I like to make up random fucking memes." - Abraham Lincoln
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>>25268071
get off this board you fucking roastie whore
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I always like watching women describe their ideal mate on these dating shows
>he's got make at least 100k
>he has to be tall!
>oh and he has to be a GREAT cook because i'm TERRIBLE at it lol Xp
>he has to be able to clean and fix things around the house

Like bitch, what the fuck is it YOU'RE supposed to do? Sit on your ass, get fat, and buy things with his money that you don't need? Fuck that.
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>>25268087
One of my favourite things is coming across an unattractive pregnant woman or single mother who's trying to find a new beta provider

it's just the ultimate feeling of Schaudenfraude
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>>25268058
This.
Modern marriage is for retards.
Being faithful to a whore is the worst thing you can do, and all women are whores.
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>>25265072
more like if you break it you buy it.
fags need to take responsibility and keep Staceys out of the potential marriage pool.
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>>25268075
Ironically the ones with crushing loneliness and dissatisfaction are the loser males ITT.
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>>25268139
whatever helps you cope love
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>>25268119
>Mfw I've had literal 30 year old women hit on me on-campus
Can someone explain this meme to me?
Why do older women that aren't in the top 10% of attractiveness think younger guys are interested in them?
Especially when, in college, you can get pussy at the snap of your fingers.
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>>25268148
>being so thirsty for attention he can't stop replying

Here's a (You).
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>>25268163
one of my mates had a literally pregnant 18 year old girl come up to him and start hitting on him once, shit was hilarious
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>>25268191
>>25268163
Whores think they're slick.
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>>25268089
I'm sure you don't feel silly at all now.
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>>25268139

It's true, but it doesn't make the alternative palatable.
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>>25268127
>Modern marriage

>DAE REMEMBER LE OLDEN DAYS XD

Marriage was always a shit idea. Nobody is happy in Marriage, it's a waste of time, and people only do it because their afraid of being alone.
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>>25268163
>in college, you can get pussy at the snap of your fingers

get out chad, you don't belong here
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>>25268001
Personally, I'm just waiting for sexbots with artificial wombs.
The perfect woman without any of the shittiness of actual women?
Sign me the fuck up.
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>>25268265
>Marriage was always a shit idea.
And yet nothing else works better.
No other society has lasted with any other form of relationship unless they were literally isolated for hundreds of thousands of years.
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>>25268163
hey, free milf pussy. and if she wants you to stick around or is deprived/frustrated she might even be willing to do some kinky shit or try harder at sex.

the trick is knowing to not get attached, not fall for the sob stories and keep financial distance.
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Women were always whores.

If it was the 20s, women would be going for some of the most cartoonish rich/racist Chads.
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>>25268345
Nigger, I'm not desperate, I don't go for pussy just for pussy's sake.
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>>25268347
In the 20s you could live in a village away from the hypergamy problems and because of societal pressure, Chad only got the best girl and not all of them.
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>>25268347
the difference is women in the 20s were pressured into not being whores, they had to try their hardest to suppress their nature to avoid persecution.
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>>25266812
Holy shit that beta nu-male tho. I legit can't tell if your test is through the floor or you're secretly hiding roast beef in your panties.
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>>25268338

What's good for society =/= good for you or a healthy mind
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>>25268265
Marriage is present in some form or another in every human culture because it creates a network of security, mainly for women and children, and it creates alliances between groups, via the exchange of women. Religions always encouraged marriage because it used to be the foundation of society and family.
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>>25268509
Who gives a fuck about you personally?
I'm more concerned with what's good for the species as a whole.
Since there is nothing better, marriage is the best system.
Ruining that system has actively made things worse as far as gender relations and relationships go.
Need proof?
Look at the black community in America.
Living proof that women being whores is good for no one.
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>>25265169
So, women are /r9k/?
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>>25268556

All well and good when your ug ug the caveman but we have cities and technology now. Marriage is a flawed idea that is now outdated

>>25268563
>I'm more concerned with what's good for the species as a whole.

No you aren't, It's basically impossible to be on a psychological level
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>>25268462
I don't think its in female nature to be whorish, women have lower libido than men, especially in early 20s. It is the culture we're in now that pushes them to do that. Most of them aren't even orgasming, yet they wore around as much as men do.
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>>25266413
nah, ur just a cuck :^)
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>>25265275
>>mens entire lives revolve around wanting to have sex

Again with this shit, just because women only see Chad's as "men".
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>>25268585
>No you aren't, It's basically impossible to be on a psychological level
>pseudoscience bullshit
*tips*
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>>25268585
Our problem is that male and female roles are slowly dissolving, we don't know how to behave with one another anymore, women want to have the same lives as men, and men are transforming into this passive worried satire of masculinity, we don't know how to take care of children anymore, and our birth rate is decreasing, because family (and therefore marriage) isn't one of our core value anymore, yet family is at the core of any human civilisation.
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>>25268585
>All well and good when your ug ug the caveman but we have cities and technology now.
You're literally retarded.
Marriage as an institution was created BECAUSE we had cities and technology.
There were no cavemen getting married you stupid fuck.
In fact, most pre-historic tribes were typically polygamous or hypergamous.
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>>25268641

Nice argument

>fucking SHEEP I only care about the species! That's why I'm a doctor who cures mad desieases
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>>25268655
>we don't know how to behave with one another anymore

Just behave how you want. How fucking beta do you have to be to be like:

>SOCIETY PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO ACT IM A SLAVE TO OTHERS EXPECTATIONS!
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>>25267955
Then why do you care about sluts?
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>>25268668
>Mfw training to be an actuary
Hell, anyone who advances us as a species or helps others is infinitely better than any selfish bastard out there.
I have infinitely more respect for engineers, proper teachers, doctors, nurses, hell, even fucking service industry workers, than I do for any CEO.
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>>25268691
I'm not western civilisation.
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>>25268655
Speak for yourself and blame you being a failure on others.
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>>25265055
>Where did things go wrong?
Nowhere. The only people crying about this is your kind and this is a hallmark of everything having gone exactly as it should have.
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.>>25265491
>tfw my mom is a head bitch HR cunt

welp...
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>>25268729
>>25268691
what?
>originall comment
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>>25268719

No, you aren't. So why bemoan it? Politics is an escaoe for people with little going on
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>>25268742
>The only people crying about this is your kind
Why do white kids always post this?
I mean shit, you guys must be literally blind.
You have front row seats to what the degradation of a society through lax morals looks like yet you still sit here and pretend that only a fringe group of LOSERS cares about this shit.
Can I ask? What's it like being functionally retarded?
I know gangbangers that aren't this stupid that complain about the shit morals of most people.
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>>25268748
There is no bemoaning, it's just what's going on, and it is a problem, assuming our culture wants to last.
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>>25268698

Because they're obnoxiously inserting themselves into the spaces I use to escape and demanding that they be included, while also demanding that none of their shit behaviour have an social or real consequences
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>>25268778
>degradation of a society through lax morals l

People have been saying this since time immemorial and yet it is better to live today than any other time in history. You people are retarded and always will be
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>>25268816
Is it really better?
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>>25268816
>People have been saying this since time immemorial and yet it is better to live today than any other time in history.
Right, I'm sorry, please, tell me how it's better to live as a poor black kid with no dad growing up in Detroit than it would have been being that same black kid growing up in Detroit in the 1950s.
Please, I'd love to hear it, enlighten me.
>B-BUT HE HAS ACCESS TO ALL THIS MEDICINE
That he can't afford.
>B-BUT HE HAS VIDEO GAMES
A slight reprieve from living in literal hell, which he probably had to steal since his single mother was too busy spending all her money on food to afford it.

I'm sure that kid living in Detroit would give up everything to live in the 1950s if it meant he'd have a dad, a stable home, a proper education, and a higher quality of life, even with the rampant racism.
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>>25268849

>That he can't afford.

Fix your fucked up healthcare system and that won't be an issue

>A slight reprieve from living in literal hell

Lol. Yeah it's nazi germany out there, the government puts people in concentration camps and you get disapeared if you say too much all the time


OH WAIT
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>>25265767
Very much this.

My family indexed marriage certificates and birth certificates from our ancestors. Made some pretty interesting discoveries... lots of marriages with a bun in the oven, and phenotypes that suggest the men they married were not the fathers of their children. And this was good little church girls in the American heartland.
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>>25268778
>degradation of a society
>through lax morals
>le wrong generation
If you actually read about the world in the past instead of taking the romanticism of it made by the likes of /r9k/ at face value, I bet you would have the so-called "degradation" that apparently happens only in today's world rather than some centuries ago any time.
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>>25268886
>Yeah it's nazi germany out there, the government puts people in concentration camps and you get disapeared if you say too much all the time
I take it you've never been to Detroit.
I have family there (an amount that depletes more and more every year).
And yes, it is literally hell.
It's full of abandoned houses, there are gangs everywhere, over 300 murders last year, people are literally afraid to go to work, especially in the poorer areas.
Shit, some areas in Detroit look like literal 3rd world countries, in part because of the horrible financial trouble the city has been in for the past 5 decades, but it's degraded so much because many working-class and middle-class individuals have fled due to the insane crime rates and present gangs that are exacerbated by the lax moral standards of the community.
This also applies to Baltimore and parts of Chicago.
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>>25268925
>because the society of the past had these negative aspects [insert Nazis, medieval shit], therefore it is ok for modern society to destroy the parts of the past that actually worked well and replace them with behavior that tanks the birth rate and destroys healthy socialization
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>>25268925
Birth rate wasn't inferior to 2.1 back then, though. Although the US doesn't have that much of a problem with that yet, surprisingly. Is it because of mexicans?
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>>25265055
Doesn't help that they are almost getting forced to work to pay for increasing prices of homes and cars and shit.Unless he has a top tier job, men can't afford it comfortably on his own anymore. It is a problem when these feminist bitches try and guilt stay at home women to do get a job and do something. They are happy, let then be.

On the sex thing, well whatever, not much you can do. A lot of guys do the same.
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>>25268965

Ok, and see the quality of life in detroit? The whole fucking world was like that in Roman times. On average we now have it better than any person born before us ever before has had it. And you focus on the negatives instead fo the fact that you can learn basically anything FOR FREE right now if you want to
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>>25268965
>tries to cherrypick
>gets BTFO by counterexample
>still sticks with the cherrypicked example
F A M

>>25269012
>[insert Nazis, medieval shit],
Where did I say anything about that?

>>25269013
>Birth rate wasn't inferior to 2.1 back then, though.
Aren't you supposed to argue against me?
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>>25269034
>The whole fucking world was like that in Roman times.
You stupid dumb white turd.
I'm not talking about the fucking Roman times you fucking retard, I'm talking about just 60 years ago.
Shut the fuck up if you're going to just spout retardation.
>>25269036
>>gets BTFO by counterexample
Of what?
Something completely unrelated?
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>>25269034
>And you focus on the negatives instead fo the fact that you can learn basically anything FOR FREE right now if you want to
Actually, internet isn't free.
Neither is a device to browse the internet.

Not to mention, 50 years ago, you could go to a library and ALSO learn basically anything FOR FREE at that moment in you wanted to.
Life hasn't really changed much in terms of quality from the 50s.
In fact, many believe that people who lived through the 50s had the highest quality of life, relatively speaking.
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>>25269054

lol. you mad?

Anyway fuck detrot. I live in NYC today, and it's better to live here today than it was 60 years ago. Muh moral degredation is just an excuse for the simple minded to not think about complicated things
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>>25269054
>Of what?
>Something completely unrelated?

>damage controlling this hard
Just admit if you had to cherrypick you had no argument you damn chucklehead.
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>>25269118
Actually, NYC was arguably better 60 years ago.
Lower property taxes, less crime, especially in the black neighborhoods.
Really, the only thing that's advanced is the technology.
Socially, we've regressed quite a bit, which is pretty sad.
But I think what's sadder is that you white kids are so stupid that you won't even acknowledge the obvious writing on the wall that outright shows you what a fucked up, morally deficient community looks like, and you'll sit here and pretend that things will be any different for you.
>>25269137
If you're not going to present an argument just stop replying samefaganon.
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>>25269082
Fucking A.
>every time some faggot says "but we have smartphones now".
It's now a necessity for work and socialization, which means it's just another cost. Our income buys less, and we're obliged to tie up more of it in services and objects to avoid slipping into the fringe.
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>>25269236
Yea, people are stupid and confuse technological progress with societal progress.
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>>25269160
>If you're not going to present an argument just stop replying samefaganon.
>pot calling the kettle back
Having zero argument doesn't stop you from posting.
Seriously though, we're talking about the world is a much better place now than it is in the past and all you had to offer was a microscopic view focusing on one extraordinary, exceptional example. If you look at the % of population above and below the poverty line it would suggest that we're doing something right in this day and age. I kind of doubt you're even believing the shit that comes out of your -mouth-, you seem to just want to win an internet argument.
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>>25269160


You said it's worse now than it was back then, I gave you some examples on how it's better. You then sperged out about Detroit like we're living in some utopian future and not just a better time than ever before.

>Lower property taxes

There's more social programs so It's better off

>Less crime

Crime is just reported more instead of Vinny and his Italian friends taking it in their own hands
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>>25268594
you're confusing whore and slut, a slut does it for pleasure, whores do it for some sort of gain. Look up hypergamy.
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>>25269236
>smartphone is a necessity
wew lad
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>>25269259
>Seriously though, we're talking about the world is a much better place now than it is in the past and all you had to offer was a microscopic view focusing on one extraordinary, exceptional example.
Nigger, if you want to go that route then let's compare quality of life in third world countries.
I'll give you a hint, it's been steadily decreasing in places like India, Zimbabwe, Niger, Somalia, Haiti, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and many other African and east African countries.
>If you look at the % of population above and below the poverty line it would suggest that we're doing something right in this day and age.
Ahh yes, let's take a look at that.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104525.html
>1975
>All Persons
>12.3%

>2010
>All Persons
>15.1%

Hmm, that's odd, isn't it.
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For fucks sake.

Adapt and overcome, shit dicks.

All women are shit? Fine, then just use them for sex and throw them away because they aren't worth it.

Can't get sex? Then why do you care what women are like anyway? If they were all sweet hearts with souls of gold they still wouldn't go for you.

>But muh bonding and love!
Get friends if you want that shit, women aren't meant for that in anything other than media.

>Just get friends *le smug face*
Then again, what are you worried about? Even if there were good girls, you wouldn't get any of them anyway.

If girls just want to be holes, then treat them like holes, it's that simple.
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>>25269260
>You said it's worse now than it was back then
For the black community.
And newsflash, it most certainly is.
>You then sperged out about Detroit like we're living in some utopian future and not just a better time than ever before.
I "sperged" about Detroit because it's an example of terrible living conditions even in a first world country.
You're the retard here trying to compare fucking Rome to New York.
>There's more social programs so It's better off
Social programs for who?
What do they do?
Do they pay the property taxes of people living there?
Do they provide any kind of economic assistance beyond shit like WIC and food stamps?
>Crime is just reported more instead of Vinny and his Italian friends taking it in their own hands
Right, and Tyrone and Jamal were hiding their crime super well in the 70s too I assume, huh?
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>>25269340
>2002
>11.3%
hmmmmmmmmmm indeed

Let's all go back to 2002, where all women were pure and married young.

You love to restrict the sample size to a small and specific population in order to make your argument appear valid. Let's have a look at things in a slightly bigger scope, shall we?

http://ourworldindata.org/data/growth-and-distribution-of-prosperity/world-poverty/#declining-global-poverty-share-of-people-living-in-extreme-poverty-1820-2015-max-roserref
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>>25269118
>ur simple minded!
>lul fuck Detroit I like NYC how it is because I don't like thinking :)
You are really not making anything like a good argument for your position fAm.
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>>25269324
In my spheres, it is. YMMV. I don't use FB and that is weird enough that most people remark on it.
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>>25269433
>You love to restrict the sample size to a small and specific population in order to make your argument appear valid.
Probably because my argument was originally about us here in the US.
I don't care about other countries, they're irrelevant to my argument.
I'm starting to think you might be dyslexic in addition to being retarded.
Also

>2002
Yes, relatively speaking, women were more "pure" and married younger in 2002.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005061.html
>2002 - 25.3
>2010 - 26.1
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>>25269440
It's that white female privilege family.
Things are great for them, so they don't want anything to change.
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>>25269522
>hurr durr it's irrelevant
And detroit was irrelevant to the anon who lived in NYC. Nice convenient arbitrary standards, hypocrite.

>http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005061.html
>1890 - 22.0
>2002 - 25.3

>grasping at straws and trying to feign correlation THIS hard
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>>25265134
LE CURRENT YEAR

Why is enjoyment good?
>>25265491
Women are ugly by 16.
>>25265914
Nice ideology you positivist moron.
>>25265975
Empiricists are so fallacious.
>>25268707
Why? Ideology; society is an evil.
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>>25269616
>And detroit was irrelevant to the anon who lived in NYC.
Okay?
I should care why?
If they don't care, that's fine, but my argument still stands.
I wasn't attacking his argument by saying that NYC is comparable to Detroit, whereas you are attacking my argument by saying that the US is comparable to the entire world.
>>grasping at straws and trying to feign correlation THIS hard
I'd say the person trying to relate marriage age to poverty rates and women's lack of moral fiber is the person grasping at straws.
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>>25269656
>Why?
Because they help make life better for everyone, myself included?
How is that a question?
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>>25269659
>I should care why?
You're right. I should stop caring about your desperate shitposting since you've lost already, long ago. Have fun getting the final reply out of us two and convincing yourself you've won you mong.
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>>25269684
>thing makes my life better
How? You're being arbitrary.
>better life means good
Why?

Are empiricists not taught formal logic anymore?
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>>25269705
Cya anon, maybe one day you'll realize where you're heading, unfortunately, it'll be too late to do anything about it.
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Women have always been whores though, since before the word whore even existed.
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>>25265055

It was likely never as black and white as you make it out to be. As soon as no-fault divorce came into being, half of those relationships split up.
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>>25270151
Yeah this. It's mostly social and family pressure that holds marriages together for life.

While I yearn for the (perhaps impossible) cozy norman rockwell family, I don't think it's right for people to be ostracized for not getting hitched at 22 and putting up with decades of unhappiness.
>if things were so great, they never would have changed

I can cope with the new deal, but I wish we had short term marriage contracts or something. Since the women's lib movement, it's just been relationship anarchy, and nobody knows what to want or expect. Families are weakened and in the absence of strong interpersonal bonds, people get wedded to their careers or fandoms or causes to find meaning.
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>>25265055

Women have always been sluts and whores by nature, the only difference was there used to be social shaming for it.

I remember in junior high when there was some kind of homework where we had to detail the lives of our ancestors from 100 years before or some shit like that. This girl brought in some old memoirs that her great grandmother had written way back in the early 1900's. Our teacher was reading one of them, but suddenly stopped and hesitated with a surprised look on his face, then put that one down and picked another entry and read that one instead, but only after reading it to himself as if he was screening it or something.

I saw him years later outside of school and asked him about why he did that. After I jogged his memory, he said that the entry he was reading detailed her affair with the first man in town who owned a car, including her fucking him in the car and his "large member" being much more pleasurable than...wait for it...

...her fiance's.

In aggregate, they've always been opportunistic, status whoring, hypergamous, double talking, parasitic fuck holes and they always will be.

I remember overhearing the women in my family cackling when my grandmother told them that her husband (my Grandfather) believed she was a virgin and that he had no idea how to tell otherwise.

I remember my mom openly eye-fucking and flirting with repairmen in front of my father, the man who lived a hollow existence to support her as best he could, as she magnified every mildly annoying quirk and idiosyncrasy of his into a glaring character flaw.

But at least now I know firsthand what they are.

I'm armored in these experiences, this knowledge. And I'm better for it.
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>>25270442

Or it's more likely those careers or causes or fandoms are going to be there no matter what, whereas women aren't guaranteed to be.
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>>25265055
>le "women weren't always whores!!!" meme
Fucking kill yourself, do us all a favor.
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>>25265275

Pussy isn't distributed evenly, kid.

A few men get most of it, the rest get scraps.

The Sexual Revolution made more losers that winners.
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>>25270638
So what conclusions do you draw from that? What do you do if you still have that yearning to wife someone up and treat her like your most intimate companion? Open relationships? Secret side pussy? Hit it and quit until you're too old to fuck?

>>25270663
True.
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>>25270702
That's arguably why lifelong marriage became popular.

Given the choice, women would probably rather share a really attractive, high status man than be exclusive with someone who is merely average.

The "one pussy, one cock" rule keeps you from having hoardes of frustrated sexless men running around, with nothing tying them to the group. It might sound kind of tinfoily but as marriage dissolves as a meaningful institution, I suspect more men will be pacified by porn, legal brothels of one sort or another, and so on.
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>>25267091

If anyone was oppressed by anything, it was by a lack of technology.

Women had to hold shit down in the home because in the time before modern appliances, child rearing, cooking and cleaning was a full time job and women were the ones best physiologically suited for it.

If women working in the home was "sex based oppression", then men working in mines, on railroads and in steel mills so they could support those women would have to be considered oppression as well.
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>>25267853

Blame women and feminism.

Every problem that feminism claims to want to solve, it in fact creates or worsens.

This is the future that women wanted. They got it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPETpCVrH9Y
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>>25270828
>Given the choice, women would probably rather share a really attractive, high status man than be exclusive with someone who is merely average.

They hate having to share the man just as much as we hate them wanting the man

They'll also cheat on that man eventually
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>>25270925
Yeah, but nonetheless. If you had three or four girlfriends, would it bother you that much if you lost one? Access to her pussy and whatever social benefits her company provides are the coin of the realm.

And the fact that women hate it means nothing... if anything that just makes them compete more fiercely.

Financial support is immaterial for women with careers--women enjoy being in the glow of a man with high status (which only correlates with high income/wealth).
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>>25268746

How dare you talk shit about HR!

If there's no HR who's gonna waddle around making sure everybody signed Sherry's birthday card?!?!?
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>>25271011

They're not getting any younger, though, and eventually they'll be replaced by younger and hotter women and be left with nothing to show for their competition
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>>25271129
Yeah, if things go that extreme, it'll be interesting to see if long time hikkimori decide to get married once they have their pick of Chad's leftovers, or if you'll have a generation of women who hit their 40's and become careerist spinsters.

I think it'll actually be a more moderate change. A significant minority will have traditional marriages (perhaps several throughout their lives), Chad and Stacey will keep doing what they've always done, and you'll have an equally significant minority that makes do with VR/homosex/sex bots/meds that remove sex drive.

I'm actually curious why no one has developed and marketed a medication that drops sex drive to zero.
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>>25271281

If Japan is any indication, the herbivores will become a thing and women will be so lonely that they'll try everything to get men interested in them
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>>25271366

Personally I see women pushing for polygamy before deciding to settle for betas out of necessity.

>>25271281

>have an equally significant minority that makes do with VR/homosex/sex bots/meds that remove sex drive.

Sex bots will never be allowed. Anything other besides a woman that can sate men's sexual needs will be shamed and banned. Masturbation, prostitution, etc.

Many women seem to get mad as fuck when they see guys they would never fuck in a million years getting their rocks off some other way.

Why? Because a man who's given up on women for sex is a man who can't be honeydicked into doing shit for women and giving them free stuff for the *prospect* of sex; he's opted for an alternative that guarantees him sexual release, rather than one that merely implies he might get it.
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>>25265055
>muh golden age, muh babby boomers
people were even more degenerate back then you fucking retard. have you never heard stories from babbyboomers how fucking drunk they used to get? getting totally ass drunk at work, then driving home in their cars so drunk they had to drive barefoot to feel the pedals? people rarely do that nowadays, back then it was common. your fucking OP image is just cherrypicking.

the reason why your dumb 2 digit IQ manchild ass thinks like that is because plebmedia (which you obviously consume) likes to highlight that behavior nowadays. back then they didn't.
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>>25271366
Tell me more? Any articles or other literature on this topic? I've never heard of "herbivores".

I am familiar with hikkimori, MGTOW, and "beautiful ones", just to throw out some keywords. Shit is fascinating.

Should I take a trip to Nippon?

>>25271684
>allowed
How could you stop it? Yeah, women get mad as fuck and EVERYONE shames a man who doesn't play the game, but there's no real basis for banning a silicone fuck doll with a chatbot in its head.
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this site has turned me into a misogynist
now what
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>>25271935
snap out of it
whatever argument anyone has for or against it, it's a pointless thing to be thinking about.
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>>25272368
Yeeeeup. It's a waste of time to hate women for not being perfect, chaste little housewives. Just keep your eyes open and don't fall for the bullshit. Men are just as shitty in most ways, it's just that you don't have the urge to idolize them and make them your intimate companion.
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>>25265304
>reproduce

YOU hate now. Why would a reproduction of you, instilled with your values, fare any better you fucking idiot?
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>>25271856

>How could you stop it?

When pussy throws a collective fit, The System bends.

Prohibition? The pussy did that.

Illegalizing prostitution? Largely due to pussy, because prostitution makes the pussy too easy to get for the average-or-below man and thereby drives down the value of it.
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>>25271856

Herbivore males are kind of an offshoot of MGTOW or just men refusing to commit to girlfriends and wives, depending on who you ask

Japan tends to run into societal issues a decade or so ahead of our own, so we can kind of see our future when looking at them
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>>25265055
>no idea how to sew or bake or other home ec 101 basics
please end my life.
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>>25267773
>physically castrated
>being this stupid and still trusting your own opinions
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>>25271027
Never thought I'd see a video that made me wish men and women actually were equal.

>shrugging off the clutches of male cops and running off while they waddle after you

What a wonderful world it would be.
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Just out of curiosity, what would everyone on here think about a woman who refused to date, have sex, get into relationships, etc? Like a female MGTOW?
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>>25272738
Women can claim such convictions, but I've never heard of one keeping those convictions. It's pretty much fact that feminists love Chad Thundercock more than their own ideals.
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>>25272738

Spinsters and old maids have existed for a long time
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>>25272623
Fuck. I'm kind of living it. I tell people I'm just "dating around" or "playing the field" after my last breakup, but I'm really asking myself why I would bother with any of the messiness of committed relationships when I could just bang and cuddle until one of us gets bored.
>because that's what happens anyways

My ex pretended to want all the same things, but she lied. She just wanted to play house, and expected me to provide all the stability and make one sided commitments. Quit her job a month after she signed the lease because her boss didn't kiss her ass like a pretty little princess.
>if I get a job in DC, I want us to go long term and stay together
>but if you get another assignment out of state for a month, I don't think I can handle
The rage at her hypocrisy still makes my blood boil.

>>25272738
Indifferent? I could be friends with such a woman as easily as with a man I suppose. If she was at all attractive, eventually I would want casual sex with her, but could probably set that aside if I was getting laid elsewhere.

I could potentially be a very close friend, because I wouldn't be worried about being judged a pussy, or trying to get in her pants.

>>25272783
I did have a professor (in her 40's) who was rather cute, and said she was doing basically that. But I got the impression she was afraid of men and disillusioned. I think she could tell I wanted her, and would spend a lot of time with me, but kept me at a distance at the same time.
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>>25265785
Accept wizardry, let them starve on the streets
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>>25265785
Same... enjoy them til they start asking for commitment. Use your own condoms.
>can't wait til that male birth control injection hits the market

Sad thing is, I actually want a home and kids, but wife material is pretty much a myth in my eyes... and I don't like the odds that someone else will raise my kids for me.
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>>25273021

I wonder if male birth control will ever happen. It's pretty messed up that we don't have it already.
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>>25273617
It exists, and it's safe and reversible with no surgery. Just waiting on the red tape at this point
>IIRC it's a gel that is injected into your plumbing, and stops sperm but not semen
>lasts for 10 years
>reversed with another injection

Still gotta wrap it up to avoid STI, but holy shit what a load off your mind.
>anon, my period is late
>lol that sux
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