>tfw family is full of republicans and was shilling for Donald Trump the entire Christmas Eve dinner and then I brought up that Islam is good and ISIS doesn't represent the Quran and is receiving aid from Western countries to enslave women and children.
Told my mom she should admit she's racist and bigoted if she unironically supports trump. Don't know why anyone can bash sandniggers so much without knowing anything about them or admitting they're even a little racist. I am but I have the common sense not to get rused by a shitlord like trump
You aren't even smart enough to realize Islam isn't a race
>>25233943
>ISIS doesn't represent the Quran
which you've totally read for yourself
right?
>tfw literally made my annoying Young Turks watching libtard Redditor 16-year old cousin cry after we got in a debate about Bernie Sanders and I kept shitting on him and laughed at him when he didn't know how to respond to an argument
It was worth it desu
>>25234202
Not all of it, but I can name 20 reasons to why ISIS doesn't represent Islam
>>25233943
Lmao the Quran directly tells Muslims to brutally kill infidels. You are a liberal zombie.
OP is an idiot who gets ass blasted over memes and ruins Christmas dinner because of it.
>but le TV man said trump is racist and to be mad at him
Why do you even care?
Fucking libtard moralfags.
>>25234260
It is forbidden to kill any Christians in Islam
>>25234213
did the same but with my sister
Fuck you, you fucking cuck.
>>25233943
Shut the fuck up faggot. >>>/tumblr/ with the rest of your cancerous brethren.
>>25234287
>>25234235
>>25234164
>>25233943
Fuck off berniecucks
>>25233943
>Islam is good
ayyy lmao
>>25234164
>using the term "shitlord" unironically
Back to tumblr
>>25234164
>she should admit she's racist
>bash sandniggers
typical hypocrite autist cunt
You sound very much like a redditor
You should get out
>>25233943
low quality b8
>>25234260
>>25234356
>>25234340
So, which one of you is OP?
>ISIS doesn't represent the Koran
The Koran explicitly states that Muslims are not to interpret it in any kind of way other than fundamentally. ISIS are the most devout and holy Muslims there are in the eyes of the Koran. Any Muslims who say shit like "Islam is a religion of peace" would burn in Muslim hell were it real.
You don't know what you're talking about, but 8/10 for making me and others respond.
Weakness is strength,
Ugliness is beauty,
Islam is the religion of peace,
victimhood is desirable
>lolberals
>>25234442
I wasn't aware that you had to specify your race on your university application.
>>25233943
FUCK YOU FAGGOTY KEK
YOU'RE NOT MAKING MY BAD MOOD ANY BETTER SO GO SUCK BERNIE'S DYING JEWISH PENIS YOU FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT FUCK YOU DON'T SAY THIS AT THE DINNER TABLE
:)
>>25233943
This bait is classic
>>25234287
>my mfw face when
>>25234442
>PEOPLE OF COLOR
das RAYCISS
>>25234414
The Quran teaches the ways of peace and the ways of war. There is no war. In the Islamic law of war, not just anybody can declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in the war. This person must be accepted by the majority of Muslims. Tell me how Osama Bin Laden or the ISIS leader qualifies when nobody has ever even heard of them until the US Government released their names. If they were a true Caliph would be known around the world by the billions of Muslims, not after the US Government has to find out their name. They are frauds and will suffer an eternity in hell.
>>25233943
Stop with the bait
>>25233943
>at Star Wars premier with a friend
>dorky kid turn around and asks, ''You people have the time ?''
>''What the hell do you mean YOU people ?''
>kid looks nervous and begins stuttering
>hfw we begin reciting the 99 names of Allah
>>25234620
Thanks for keeping racial tensions down family
>>25234576
Surely they that believe, and those of Jewry, and the Christians, and those Sabeaans, whoso believes in God and the Last Day, and works righteousness, their wage waits them with their Lord, and no fear shall be on them, neither shall they sorrow.
Quran 5:69
Quran promises Christians and Jews along with Muslims that if they have faith and works, they need have no fear in the afterlife. It is not saying that non-Muslims go to hell, quite the opposite. It is also forbidden in Islamic law to kill any Christian, Jew, or any other person religious to a Holy Scripture.
>>25234659
I told him the time after the 4th name but he was slouched in his chair and remained nervous looking for the rest of the movie. Almost felt bad for him
>>25234587
Can you source your claims for Koran saying only to kill/convert nonmuslims in times of war, as directed by a Caliph?
>go to family dinner
>aunt gets started on Obamacare
>won't shut the fuck up, raging against it
>tfw I like Obamacare because it benefits me because I'm young and poor
>tfw have to lie to maintain peace
just lie lol
>>25234442
70 percent of the US population is whites. So.. what's the problem here?
>>25234235
(former) Muslim here, ISIS is literally Islam. ISIS is Islam. ISIS IS FUCKING ISLAM, I WISH LIBKEKS AND RETARDED FAKE MUSLIMS WOULD WAKE UP AND REALIZE THIS. THIS IS THE FACE OF FUCKING ISLAM, THESE ARE THE DEEDS OF YOUR PROPHET SUPPOSEDLY ENDORSED BY YOUR DEVIL OF A GOD.
ISIS doing is exactly what Muhammad did. Nothing they are doing is unislamic unless you're going to argue that Muhammad wasn't a Muslim, when in Islam he is considered the perfect model of a man. ISIS is an apocalyptic ultraconservative interpretation of Islam, but again, everything they do comes from the Qur'an. All sorts of lecherous pseudowesternized Muslim idiots want to believe that Islam is peace and flowers, and more importantly want the westerners to believe that as well. But that is not the fucking case!
>>25235529
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity
>Non-Hispanic White
>63.7%
>>25235673
They are fighting a fake war with a fake Caliph. They are not Muslim. They are the fake Muslims.
>>25235736
>They are fighting a fake war with a fake Caliph. They are not Muslim. They are the fake Muslims.
So the establishment of any caliphate over the old one is fake and the usurpers not real Muslims?
>>25235736
There is nothing fake or illegitimate about Baghdadi's claim to be Caliph, he meets all requirements established by precedent.
>>25235673
>All sorts of lecherous pseudowesternized Muslim idiots want to believe that Islam is peace and flowers, and more importantly want the westerners to believe that as well.
They want the westerners to believe that because it is part of a tactic that comes straight from the Koran whose name I can't remember. It says something along the lines of it's okay to lie about Islam and its goals to non-Muslims so long as it furthers the real goals of Islam.
Am I remembering this correctly?
>>25235801
There hasn't been a true Caliphate since the time of the Mongols. The title was held by various rulers until it was destroyed by Mustafa Kemal Ataturk of Turkey, the successor to Ottoman power.
Don't you ever say what represents the Quran. You don't know what Islam is so don't you ever comment on it. Keep your mouth shut.
>talking politics at the dinner table
such low class
surely there aren't better, more cheerful, holiday appropriate topics in your daily life you could discuss?
>>25235673
You need to be put to death.
>>25235827
No, that is bullshit. Taqiyya is only a Sh'ia doctrine and it applies much more narrowly than memers on these boards argue. In fact, the main use of Taqiyya was to protect Shiites from Sunni persecution, not to infiltrate non-Islamic societies.
Western Muslims want you to believe this because they want to fit in with a new country without severing themselves from old traditions. This is, of course, a fool's errand. A lot of them are driven nuts by trying to do this and end up going full ISIS when it turns out that their retarded faith is incompatible with western values.
Either Islam must reform or it must be abandoned by all ciivlized men.
>Tfw my father talked about trump
>Talked about how his entire strategy is US against THEM
>Doesn't matter who THEY are, because you're with the US, and we're going to take THEM down
He was pretty spot on honestly.
>>25234200
Please stop with this shit. You know what the fuck he means. The difference is just semantic.
>>25235529
Yeah it's stupid. It should've been a breakdown of the percentage of bachelor holders within each racial category, not the racial breakdown of bachelor holders in the entire US.
>>25235808
He's nothing but an impostor and would there be a real caliphate (even an Ottoman one) in the Muslim world today, Baghdadi would have been proclaimed an apostate and promptly disposed of along with all of the pigs that follow him.
>>25234213
>feeling proud for beating a teenager in a political argument
pretty pathetic t b h
> Islam is good
At what exactly?
>>25235879
That is literally every group in the history of existence
>>25235924
I did some cursory research on your "true caliph" claims, and it seems like ISIS is rather tame compared to some of the shit that went on during the time period you specified.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almohad_Caliphate#Status_of_non-Muslims
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Hakim_bi-Amr_Allah
What exactly makes ISIS illegitimate, but these guys not?
>>25235736
It is a real war with a real caliph and everything. The hard fact that seems to be lost on everyone is that current religions are useless now that mass communication exists. We are now living in an age where people are inverting their identities into their digital avatars in order to gain control of a world that they could never have controlled before by physical coercion. There is no religion for this, but it is the current spiritual meme. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all religions of the past that do not recognize that there has been change and even try to prevent it.
It's all an excuse to separate us and start hate. Don't buy into it. From ethics, enlightened self-interest, and the commonwealth, global governance will emerge.
The Quran states that in a time of war, you should kill any infidel unless they accept humiliation or convert to Islam. All Muslims follow this it's true fact.
The Holy Bible says that you should stone any person to death for believing in another religion, regardless of time of war or peace. Everybody who is a Christian does this. True fact.
>>25236038
>The Holy Bible says that you should stone any person to death for believing in another religion, regardless of time of war or peace. Everybody who is a Christian does this. True fact.
There is no equivalent to the old testament for the Koran, fag. New testament is much more tolerant and much more widely adopted.
>>25236093
Over 90% of Muslims are Sunni yet the entire world judges them based on the smaller extremist Shia and Jihadist population.
>>25235879
It does matter though. If them were Russians Trump would be bad. If them were Mexicans and mudslimes then fuck yeah shut up and take my votes.
>>25234686
Damn, that shut him up.
My nigga actually knows his shit haha.
>>25235950
Not really proud of beating him in an argument so much as proud that I made him feel like shit.
You fucking PATHETIC VIRGIN KEKLORD
>>25236153
You don't even understand the difference between Shia and Sunni. It's Shia that tend to secularise while Sunni do not. IS is Sunni and they're targeting Shia and Christians. Proportionally Sunnis and Wahabi are more likely to commit acts of terror while Shia terrorism is a very rare occurrence.
>>25235673
THE CRUSADES ARE CHRISTIANITY!
>>25236980
The Crusaders did nothing wrong get out you cuck.
>>25236975
Isn't one of Shia Islam's main tenants dependant on its followers having experienced divine inspiration? How could that lead to secularism?
OP acted like a faggot and his family called him out on it.
What's the problem here?
>>25234164
I know a decent amount about Islam and the middle east and I'm bigoted as fuck, at least towards sandniggers.
>>25234500
You do though. In the US, you do have to do that and your application is classified and judged differently based on your race. That's not made up, we really do that. You can refuse to answer, of course, but it doesn't change the fact that answering with a minority race greatly increases your chances.
>>25236975
http://muslimvillage.com/2014/08/16/56863/isis-sunni/
>>25235479
>i like shitty thing because it gets me more shit i didnt earn
Liberals out ree
My favorite thing about this upcoming election is how I can flaunt my knowledge of how the US government works to shut down pro-Trumps and pro-Bernies. I ruin everybody's fun. My goal is to make people see that we're in a democracy, not a presidential dictatorship.
>>25237117
>doesn't think executive orders and ever expanding power of the executive branch haven't wrought a psuedopresidential dictatorship
>>25237066
>IS aren't real Sunni!
IS claim to be Sunni and sprung out of Sunni regions. You can take their word for it. You can take their killings of Shia that they are not in fact Shia.
>>25237018
Sunni are the problem. Look at this.
>>25236153
Sunnis still follow the quran absurd teachings.
>>25236980
Correct.
And the posers wearing suits on sunday morning and disregarding politically incorrect parts of the bible are a bunch of clowns.
>>25237137
>executive orders are an unchecked power
>>25237117
Tbh thats why i want trumps presidency. If he tries any backstabbing, he will get shut down.
>>25237117
Protip: None of it is real. America doesn't have a democracy. Only hidden hands.
>>25237407
"Boo hoo, capitalism itself is a form of democracy where a dollar is a vote and people are voting wrong"
wait, shit
whats with this normie pepe
>>25237164
>Secular/Political/Anarchist: 16,458
MURDERING IS NOT TRUE ANARCHISM, ANARCHISM IS AN IDEOLOGY OF PEACE
>>25236980
Crusaders literally did nothing wrong
>>25233943
Islam aint good you fucking cuck and ISIS literally represents the quran
but yeah they do receive aid from western countries
>ISIS doesn't represent Islam
Says everyone who hasn't an Islam upbringing. Stay sheltered, white kids.
>>25234235
Why are you a living buzzfeed article?
>>25235736
DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR!
>>25233943
>can't discern between an ideology and a race
Good b8 tho.
>>25233943
>>25234164
>>25234235
>>25234442
>>25234587
Leddit pls go
Go back to reddit. Fucking libtards
Do white families really discuss politics at holiday gatherings? My family just watches movies and tell stories
>>25239183
>>25239546
Hello /pol/ :-).
>>25234686
Forbidden, unless they transgress against Sharia law or do whatever other kind of minor transgression that will earn them a supposedly lawful death.
>>25236980
The crusades tried to reconquer land that had previously been conquered by Jihading Muslims, and nothing more.
The Crusades are a drop of nothingness compared to Islams thousand years plus of Jihading.
>>25239760
>The Crusades are a drop of nothingness compared to Islams thousand years plus of Jihading.
Indeed they were, let's just forget about the Christianization of the Americas, Britain, Scandinavia, the Reconquista, the Spanish Inquisition and the Teutonic Order.
>>25239883
>that brought civilization and prosperity to the entire world
>oy vey those damned Christians
The Reconquista literally means the reconquest as well you filthy Muzzy retard, because they were recapturing land that had been conquered by filthy Muslim shits like you, and yeah the Inquisitors were bad, a lot of Catholics were pretty shitty but that was because they were a corrupt order that swayed away from the teachings of the bible.
>>25235924
found the muslim apologist
>>25236000
Nobody acknowledges Baghdadi. He's basically the irrelevant anti-Pope for Muslims.
Also ITT clueless westerners arguing
Dune teaches that in the future we'll all be a mix of Zen, Islam and Catholicism. We'll also ride giant worms on alien planets and use drugs to fold space.
>>25239920
Calm down kiddo, I'm not even religious. So what do you think Protestant religions are faithful to the teachings of the Bible? HA! Most of them just pretend the Old Testament doesn't even exist.
Also the Muslims brought civilization and prosperity to a lot of the land they conquered, try again.
>tfw my dad and I both bought Make America Great Again hats
>>25240050
Yeah there are so many prosperous, modern Islamic countries out there. Kek.
>>25240485
Yeah. Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Indonesia, The UAE, Oman and then there's Iran that's on the rise.
>>25233943
Sandnigger reporting in,ask me anything fags...COME AT ME /R9K/
>so anon who do you want to see become president?
>Donald Trump
>uncle says "yeah good on you bud"
>female leftie cousin lets out a big sigh
>does it again because she didnt get attention the frst time
>everyone looks at her
>"anon Trump os never going to be president just dont even support him"
liberals are really scared arent they?
>>25240525
Lol. Ill give you SA and UAE but they're only successful because they sit on a tonne of oil and the US isnt keen on invading
>>25240572
pretty much yeah
its so infuriating that they just pretend the opposition doesn't exist any longer
You people trigger me,you didn't live in the middle east and I bet you never travelled here and you just go shitpost on /pol/
>>25240583
Very well, den all you like. At the end of the day the truth stays the truth.
>>25240525
They're literally all shit tier compared to Western Christian countries.
>>25240606
The truth that Islam is a violent religion that brings suffering and poverty to every single country it touches?
>>25240607
Sure they are. I bet you still think the US has the greatest quality of life on earth.
Everyone who thinks that islam or muslims are good, had never been in an islamic country or lived in a muslim community.
almost everything they believe is againat libshit principles, but libshits still support and tries hard to suck their dicks.
>>25240633
It has one of the highest as long as you aren't a criminal or a lazy bum.
>>25240756
Yeah sure. Enjoy paying 5000 dollars to fix a broken finger. Or 50000 a year for university tuition.
>>25233943
Hopefully they reported you to the NSA as a terrorist sympathiser, you scum
>>25234213
Precisely the opposite happened to me: made my Breitbart-reading, Milo-following /pol/-lurking 17-year-old Aspie cousin get so mad he cried when we got into an argument about Bernie v. Trump and he couldn't defend Trump against Bernie's superiority.
>>25233943
You know people tend to think your a smug little shit when you try to force political conversation at a family get together. Especially when your argument is full on feels and empty on logic.
>>25234235
I'll bite. Goddamn it. List your fucking reasons then.
