Reminder you're depressed because you're supposed to be living like this
>>25211462
Ignorance is bliss but knowledge is power
And my power level is 2 high
>dark age
>no town center
somebody is shit at this game
Why the fuck everybody thinks all their stuff was made so sloppy.
And I'm depressed because that's what people should feel. It's life.
>>25211462
If we lived like that, we woudn't even have the shitty kind of art that that picture is.
>>25211499
Look at the filename dingus.
>>25211524
Hunters of cattle and gatherers of crops?
society is such shit. makes you work for slavery all day to get a few bucks to afford food and housing. I would love to just have to work a few hours to hunt some food. iirc the cavemen only worked a couple hours a day to get their food. it would be so nice living like that. sure we get things like internet, stupid material possessions, drugs and alcohol, but at what cost?
>>25211539
Yeah okay you're right. That is a weird filename.
Idiot friendly book that discusses this subject if anyone's interested.
"Things Fall Apart" by Chinua Achebe is another retard friendly book(commonly printed in large letters so it's easier for the 'urban community' to read it) that has a sort of different approach to a different side of the concept.
You're absolutely correct OP, but what you're forgetting is that in modern society 5%> of people are happier than any animistic gatherer folks will ever be. The idea is that you get into that 5%> group in one way or another. Usually by acquiring a fuckton of internationally-valid exchangeable power units.
>>25211462
>thinking that human beings are supposed to have agriculture
We've only had it for the last 12,000 or so years of about 200,000 years of anatomically modern humans. If we need to live the way we evolved for in order to be happy, then we need to be hunter-gatherers.
>>25211462
Wow is wish i live in shit and died when i was 30 so bad
>>25211793
Someone always has to say it. You're missing the point.
Is it better for a Tiger to live 20 years in a cage than 10 years in the wild?
>>25211812
who the fuck wants to have no toilets and be dirty as fuck with stinky hairy pussy with crusty feces on it and get diseases and other painful shit that cant be helped
its better now
Actually, you're depressed because you're supposed to be living like this.
Those people don't look very happy.
They'll probably die slowly in their mid twenties as well.
>>25211856
For a betamax like you maybe.
Too bad you only exist because this society can coddle you.
A man's natural state is to hunt for his own food and provide for the tribe. This urge has now been convoluted and abused to slavery.
>>25211856
Yeah but you speak with your ancestors and know 100% that you're going to the afterlife to assist your descendants because that is absolutely what happens without any doubt whatsoever I mean like, you're not really thinking about the cultural context involved here. Hunter Gatherer's work on average 1-2 hours a day, assuming they aren't in the jungle in which case >work
It's probably pretty awesome to have a 100% reinforced religious worldview and wives promised and your life figured out entirely by age 14 with no regrets and shit.
>>25211856
You wouldn't give a fuck if you were raised in that environment from birth.
It only looks bad from our current perspective.
>>25211812
I'd rather take it easy like the captive NEETiger.
>>25211613
> internationally-valid exchangeable power units
I call them fuel units
>>25211462
That's a depiction of an early agricultural society, not a hunter-gatherer society. Do you even Anthropology, retard?
>>25212005
It was a poor choice of picture. I just grabbed it quickly. You get the point though.
I guess I need a hairy gf who hasn't bathed in weeks
any fembots want to volunteer?
>>25211499
>dark age
>>25212027s-s-s-skype
>>25211989
Its money you dumb cuck
>>25212022
No, I don't get the goddamn point, are you saying we need to go back to being hunter-gatherers or early agriculture?
>>25211462
Yet, there are many people who live the same way I do and are NOT depressed. Now fuck off, fellow technology user.
Reminder you're depressed because you're supposed to be looking like this.
>>25211613
tfw you got introduced into this concept by "Industrial Society and its Future"
>>25211499
a hearty kek was had my fellow anonymous user hehoo!!!!
e-yeeeey!
>>25211462
>that giant in the background
>>25212042
I was stuck between dark and feudal because they clearly have agriculture unlocked, but they don't look civilized enough to have a military
>>25212102
try the unibomber's manifesto while you're at it
Daily reminder that you're depressed because you don't do anything. Old lifestyles don't diminish depression because they're somehow "correct", they diminish depression because they force you to do work. Modern society gives you the privilege to work extremely little, so many people abuse it and become depressed. Obviously this isn't the sole cause of depression, but if living in a different time period with a different lifestyle would fix your depression, this is the case.
You queers.
If you think you'd be happier just hunting for your own food and surviving off the land, then go hunt your own food and survive off the land. Nothing is stopping you, except the knowledge that living in modern society is better than any other choice.
Would the old hunter gatherer life actually be better for the modern robot? I feel like society nowadays is much more balanced towards betas, and the power dynamic would be much more skewed in a primitive society.
>>25212154
I'm sure the plato pic has something to do with the obvious nomenclature change, but personally I think the work is decent enough to call by its original title.
>>25212164
Literally everything is stopping you. You can't live anywhere for free.
>>25212164
>Nothing is stopping you
the fact that you'd be doing it alone. which is impossible.
>Modern society gives you the privilege to work extremely little
Hunting is something we were literally born to do. It's genetic. We're good killers. You think the hunter gatherer considered hunting "work"?
Hunting is not in any way comparable to sitting in an office staring at an electronic screen counting numbers for 9 hours a day.
>>25211876
Underrated post
.,. Hmm
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You're not supposed to live in the stone age, but we are tribal by nature.
The fact that you lose all your childhood friends because they all just pack up and move makes you fucked up.
>>25212194
You can walk out into the middle of the fucking woods.
Seriously- there are sooo many people just living in national forests and shit.
>>25212216
>which is impossible.
Humans are social beings, but providing your own food isnt impossible.
Need others? Get a group of about half a dozen.
>>25211499
Ohh brother
>>25212164
If you think the government would allow you to gang up and live off the grid, you're mistaken.
They tend to shoot up "militias".
So many people talking out of their asses here, really pretentious.
>>25212156
>Old lifestyles don't diminish depression because they're somehow "correct", they diminish depression because they force you to do work
"the Dobe work week is approximately 15 hours, or an average of 2 hours 9 minutes per day."
Pretty typical for a hunter/gatherer community. Very different from a 40 hour work week. Get educated.
>>25212164
You are completely disregarding the cultural context of being raised in a hunter/gatherer animistic society. Your religion is indistinguishable from science, it explains reality in whole and leaves very few questions to be asked. Life is very simple and everybody you know treats you like family and cares for you. If you are struggling, that's because everybody is struggling. It's a very different thing than running off and camping.
>>25212172
If you don't have a wife in a hunter/gatherer community, wait for one of those qt six year olds to grow a few years older.
>and you think you had it better
You fuckers are so stupid. You have no idea how good and easy you have it. Do you really think you wouldn't be depressed if you had to struggle to find enough food for you and your family every day? Think it's not stressful to go hunting for 9 hours and come back with nothing to feed yourself? I bet it's great getting intestinal parasites and malaria, and not having basic antibiotics. Maybe you should just move to the fucking Amazon or Africa to NEET it up with the savages
>>25211462
honestly this is the fucking truth. the lack of connection to the basic needs to function is the source for a lot of misery in modern society. chasing manufactured needs is a fruitless endeavor.
>>25212216
You do not need to use an electronic screen, nor for a large portion of the day. You can still hunt and it has a thriving culture around it. You cannot recreate the conditions exactly but you can make large lifestyle changes to achieve the same mental effects. The problem is you need the discipline to enforce those lifestyle changes, whereas in previous times the discipline required was much less because the motivation death and suffering provides is great.
>>25211499
wololo
>>25212305
good and easy are not our natural states. They create depression because there's no push and pull. Hardship is not the same as depression. You need the fear of the beast to appreciate the cooked meat. You need the cold to appreciate the warmth of the fire.
>>25212156
>>25212156
I'm pretty happy at work, because I have good coworkers, and it keeps my busy. As soon as I get home, I get depressed again, because there's nothing here but video games.
>>25212305
Incredibly butthurt
>>25212305
>struggle to find food
>hunting for nine hours come back with nothing
you've never been outside, have you? there is food all over the fucking place. when there isn't for some reason, you either pick up and move or stop living where it fucking snows.
>>25212305
excessive comfort does not equal happiness anon. we evolved to react to comforts in small doses, like that one time when we bring home a fucking bison. not the comfort of unlimited tendies.
>>25212367
No, you dumbfuck. Hardship provides a lot of psychosocial stress. Read some fucking books.
>>25212405
If you live in a constant state of excessive comfort you never truly appreciate anything or feel fulfilled.
You've never been camping have you?
>>25212386
People have to eat around 1500 cal a day to be healthy, and they need a balance of macros and micros. You think unlimited food is available year round in the wild? Hunting is hard, and collected foods are usually nutrient poor and require processing. H+G life is not good, but neither is sedentary life that forces you to sit at a desk 8 hours a day with unlimited junk food.
>>25212464
wild meat is virtually the most nutritious thing on the planet
>>25212480
but its hard to get, more so without rifles
>>25212464
Why would a tribe settle somewhere where getting food is hard? Everything anthropologists have ever observed about pre-modern society has implied literally the opposite.
Yes, unlimited food is available year round in the wild in most places where hunter-gatherer societies settle down. That's why they settle down in those places. I could point you to dozens of areas around the US that could and have supported tribal societies in the past with shittons of easily obtainable food, and this is after guns came and decimated all of the large game and dams fucked up all the salmon. Food is fucking easy as shit when you are a human being.
>>25212172
>betas
they would all die in that time frame of society it would be to harsh no modern medicine to help beta offspring nor any enablers
>>25212496
From what I can gather, humans evolved to chase down medium sized animals. That's why we're bipedal and hairless.
>>25212521
>Why would a tribe settle somewhere where getting food is hard?
Because the government put them there.
the problem isnt really that youre supposed to be hunting and gathering, its that people forget the only real problems are the ones that stop you from putting food and water into your mouth. everything else is made up, a lie your brain is telling you; if it doesnt put your life into immediate peril, there is literally nothing to worry about. you are an animal that thinks they are better than other animals, start acting like one
>>25212566
alternatively, we may have evolved as scavengers that developed powerful running to compete with other scavengers, and became hairless due to our dependency on marine resources
>>25212576
Hilarious but true
>>25212608
I think it makes sense that our running is a weapon. We can't outspeed hyenas, gazelles, or chimps. All we can do is outrun them.
Maybe if its so once we see vultures or whatever we can slog it out instead of stopping and resting like other animals do.
But I doubt we would need to scavenge anywhere with non burrowing mammals. Literally just chase them until they give up.
I can't seem to find much concensus on it but it seems like our ecological niche. We descended from the forest into the plains because we are distance running carnivores, not searchers and foragers like chimps are.
>>25212530
Not true, actually I would think there would be less room for alphas. Only one or few can be alpha, the rest have to be followers.
>>25212804
look at other animals like wolves and birds betas are often killed. Omegas and gammas make up the bulk of the male herd they have the endurance
When I teach kids and have to pass out pens, if I leave all the colors in they take forever to pick and will ask if they can switch later, etc. If I only leave in blue ones, they just take them. That is the problem of educated, industrial, Western society in a nutshell
There is so much stupid shit in this thread I can't be assed to have seperate arguments with each mother fucker in here who said something stupid.
God damn guys, some of you really do live in your own retarded lala land don't you?
And no, I'm not going to point out which of the people in here are retards and which are alright, I made this post to be passive aggressive and express my disapproval in a way that won't devolve into long arguments where nobody listens to anyone anyways.
>>25213098
>I need all of you to know that I am right and all of you are wrong but I won't post any basis supporting this idea!
Is this how you boost your self esteem these days? If you're so smart, make a good argument and prove it, or else, guess what I'm 200lbs of pure muscle and I've fucked over three hundred women and make 600k a year also I'm smarter than all of you and you are all wrong.
>>25213098
your contribution is not noted
>>25213143
If I like, knew you or you were my friend or class mate or someone I spent time around you'd be right, it would be nonsensical to just passive aggressively say you're stupid and not say why and break it down for you step by step.
But, this is 4chan, I don't know you, I never will, this is not a place to have a debate and it never has been, and many of the people who posted in here are probably not even here anymore.
So fuck off, I don't need to do shit if I don't feel like it.Also for all you know I may have agreed with what you said in this thread.
>>25211462
My pure white bloodline has lived through agrarians societies for 30 thousand years, it's been a long time since we lived liked niggers.
This is probably why niggers have such difficulty adapting to white society. While everyone else on the planet has been adopting to agrarian collectivist lifestyles, and have biologically and culturally evolved for such, niggers still just live like fucking chimpanzees. Absolutely disgusting.
>>25211499
I actually laughed gg anon
>>25211462
Is this what wagecucks actually believe?
Tolstoy had the right of it. Hard, manual labor is what makes the man. We're miserable because we no longer feel and act like men.
>>25211499
Fuck you anon. I was supposed to be depressed, not laughing.
>>25214600
>My pure white bloodline has lived through agrarians societies for 30 thousand years
>Agrarian societies are only ~10,000 years old
>they originated with shitskins
>trying this hard
>>25211462
>tfw no autarkic neo-feudalistic high-tory agrarian united kingdom to live in
Do you feel it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cUfEKAuSes
>>25214825
oh fuck this video got all Blacked up with commentary sheeeeit
https://soundcloud.com/nydailynews/sandy-hook-shooter-adam-lanza/s-CtgB9
>>25214759
The first to discover agriculture were whites in the Middle East. The second were Whites in Europe.
Get good shit skin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_agriculture
Also it was 20 thousand years, not 30. My bad on that.
>>25214871
>whites in the Middle East.
>20k years
Top fukken kek. How fucking retarded and desperate are you?
>>25214871
>Middle east
>White
Also
>12, 000 years ago was 20, 000 years ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic_Revolution
>American """"education""""
>>25214895
>>25214911
Evidence of oat harvesting dating to 30,600 BC has been found in Paglicci Cave, Italy.[7] Evidence of plant cultivation dating from 23,000 years ago has been found at the Ohalo II site.
Niggers just mad you're behind the curve in literally anything. BAKA.
>>25214911
kekmus maximus oridius
>>25214947
>Oat harvesting
>Thinking human ancestors haven;t been harvesting plants since they figured out how to
>Ohalo II
>Israel
>Africa
>Thinking they were fucking white
Christ you are fucking stupid. Either kill yourself or get castrated and spare humanity any accidents you may make.
>>25214600
>pure white
>30 thousand years
>it's been a long time since we lived liked niggers
>dubs
checked, my funny man
>>25214911
It was white before the arabs invaded.
>>25211546
You are correct anon. On average the hunter gatherer works about 4 hours a day, most of which is social stuff like hunting and fishing with your caveman buddies.
The rest of the day is spent playing around, consuming psychedelics in group rituals, dancing etc.
>>25215302
>The rest of the day is spent playing around, consuming psychedelics in group rituals, dancing etc.
You forgot dying at 30 or having his head cleaved in by a neighbouring tribe
>>25215334
Actually, life expectancy after childhood in hunterer-gatherer societies is thought to be around 70 years. The average is just skewed down hugely by the insane infant/child mortality rates.
>Europeans exterminate the injuns in North America only to realize they had it right all along
Shit, that's some George Lucas pottery right there.
>>25215663
>Europeans exterminate the injuns in North America
That was the Spanish and the Americans. The English and the French were relatively cordial with the injians
>>25215691
>Europeans and European diaspora wreck the injuns
I'll take it.
Just be happy bros, it's not like you need millions of dollars and can work only when you want to or anything
