Why don't you meditate robots?
The Buddha, an ordinary human being so redpilled a whole philosophy was founded after him, achieved enlightenment through meditation and contemplation. Surely the fact there is an entire belief system founded after him despite wishing against it, shows some evidence it helps people. If meditation didn't help people, why has it been around since before Christ?
There has even been speculation by historians that Jesus was a Buddhist monk.
inb4 youknowwho
ITT we summon the antibuddhist
>>25184702
I can;t into silent meditation because tinnitus, and the leader of my yoga center says its pointless, the kind of meditation I do there is with chanting and stuff.
Aaaaauuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>Why don't you meditate robots?
to self-awarre
I meditate for about an hour every morning. It helps a great deal.
>>25185382
I don't see what the problem is. Tinnitus shouldn't stop you from doing anything.
>>25185449
there's no problem, because if I'm going to meditate, I'll chant aum or whatever the mantra is
I don't notice the tinnitus except in silence, and its much preferable to avoid such conditions
>>25185693
>its much preferable to avoid such conditions
There's no reason to avoid it though. If a sound bothers you, listen to it.
>>25185382
>shaved teen totally shaved
>hairy man arms
>>25185382
I guess you hear a background noise.
If truly that is tinnitus, then you should just exercise more, explore your own mind and find calm, after you reach that state the real works starts, meditation is just a tool to reach a calm state for inner works.
If your tinnitus is self diagnosed, i'd suggest you try to get as far as possible from electromagnetic sources, in my experience i'm annoyed by any electromagnetic source like TV, PC, cellphones. Strong ones even make me hear a constanct screeching sound in my head.
Ah, also cut out the porn, seriously cut it out to zero, you have no idea if you haven't yet reached a deep mediation state, how destructive and impairing that shit is for your mind, when you reach deep mediatation you cleary see the effects and the obstructions in your body and mind caused by external and internal factors, porn impairs the mind lucidity in particular, and flashes its images in your mind when you're not aware of it, like when you're asleep (REM phase) or when you're in deep meditation (in which you're conscious and can act on the problem).
>>25186050
stop telling me what to do faggot, you're as bad as the anti-buddha
*tips meditation cushion*
>>25186104
aIso porn
>>25186104
wat?truly original seal
I don't understand the weird spacey or mystical imagery associated with meditation.
>>25186145
its actually just because drugs, not mediation
I can't concentrate whenever I try to meditate. I always get turned on for some reason and have to go fap afterwards. What's wrong with me?
>>25186132
>>25186104
Well i'm not telling you what to do, i'm telling you what should you do if you were serious in your "yoga sessions", what i told you wasn't even yoga related anyways, but it would help towards your direction
>>25186145
For the 2deep aspect if you refer for thread imagery.
If you mean why everyone depics it in such a mystical way, it's because meditation is directly tied with magic.
>>25186224
>>25186197
And also because many people into it are hippy junkies that think they are doing the right thing the right way.
>>25186145
you can really just ignore all that shit
you can have lots of strange perceptual experiences while meditating (I typically have closed eye visuals like almost immediately), but it's of no consequence
>>25186218
Ignore it. If something comes up, you don't have to respond to it. It'll go away on its own. You get better at it eventually.
>>25184702
I'm too stupid to figure it out
>>25186290
Also that, probably normies think they are seeing god or something when they give form to some of the shapes they see when they manage to break free from their perpetual mind numbed state.
>>25186328
It's easy though. If you think you can't do it, it's a misconception. You have the wrong idea of what you're supposed to be doing or what's supposed to happen.
>>25186218
If you don't fap, your strenght in intent will be higher and your fapping urge can be suppressed more efficiently, even if it comes with greater force.
>>25186323
>>25186384
Alright Anons I'll try it again. It's just difficult to sit there for 30+ minutes with a boner. Fuck.
>>25184782
>>25184824
I have mostly derived all there was from posting. Over the course of the three years or what it was, I have realized and clarified to myself (and possibly, just possibly, others) Buddhist fallacies, of '...in moderation', of 'it's about awareness', of 'you can stop if it's harmful', of 'it's good for you', of 'there are studies proving...', of 'you do it already', of 'it's about self-control'. My questions now largely lie somewhere else.
>>25186145
There are tons of ways to meditate.
If you don't like he weird imagery, you could just lie in you bed and just take notice of how you are feeling; cold/hot/aches/tingly/whatever, take notice of the thoughts you are thinking; "this is boring"/"I'm lonely"/"what should I do about xyz", and take notice on how you are feeling emotionally; happy, sad, numb, curious, impressed.
That would be a mindfulness meditation, because you are paying attention to what is usually on autopilot for you. Then you can notice and change it to be different. Think better thoughts or adjust yourself.
You could also do meditations were you move like tai chi, I think.
>>25186357
>>25186342
he's right, just lay there, relax and explore, and experiment with yourself, see what happens when you're very relaxed, and your mind is not focused on anything, look at how your whole thinking function changes, and go on with the flow.
>>25186408
Initially it can be hard, don't stress your mind, i remember being unable to concentrate at the beginning, now i can just reach that state in a minute or two. Don't understimate meditation as it is the basis for many other skills.
>>25186412
tl;dr in the land of the mind, the three-eyed man is a retard. Meaning, the more you, meaning you here, 'meditate', the less intelligent you get; which means that I appear smarter in comparison. Which I can't really complain about.
>>25186224
>"yoga sessions"
>serious
Your pretentiousness and fedora is showing.
Yoga is for joy and happiness, not sticking your head so far up your ass that your heart and mind become euphoric.
>what i told you wasn't even yoga related anyways, but it would help towards your direction
What direction? I can see you feel the need to give people advice and think you know everything- you might be the same guy who urged me to see a doctor to check for some skeleton disease when I casually mentioned in another thread that my forearm was hurting from too much computer use, when its plainly obvious to me it was form overuse + bad posture.
>>25186412
>what the fuck is this guy going on about?
>o-oh it's that guy, shit...
>>25186503
but my main point being that I have a system that works for me, and I am happier than 99% of robots
I have accepted that I am unavoidably sexual, but while I do feel the psychosomatic benefits of reducing the amount I ejaculate, I still enjoy looking at and edging to pornographic images.
I doubt I could ever be a true yogi, monk, or whatever because I enjoy the sensual too much to relinquish it
>>25186559
Whom a Buddhist refuses to accuse of a mental illness, a Buddhist must be silent of.
Meaning, hush.
>>25186441
I don't find lying in bed works very well. You fall asleep too easily. If you can't maintain alertness you get distracted.
The traditional positions aren't magical, but they allow you to remain still and alert for a significant amount of time without too much discomfort. You can find other positions that also work, but it takes a lot of trial and error.
And also if it's too undirected it's too easy to get off track. It's generally better to have an object of meditation. You can try zazen too but it's a lot more difficult in my experience.
>>25186503
From your answer think i think you're projecting things from the perspective you're experiencing, i don't think there's any need to be so upset anon, nor the need to load more mental poison on this board in form of images.
>>25186651
>alert
Of what?
>>25186629
Do you have some sort of automated search and alert thing set up, or are you just on /r9k/ 24 hours a day, vigilantly scanning every thread for hints of buddhism?
>>25186659
>From your answer think i think you're projecting things from the perspective you're experiencing
Just calling you out for being a high minded, self important, fedora tipping dufus
>i don't think there's any need to be so upset anon,
I am 0% upset. You must be a woman, or very girly man, to infer made up emotional charges from my matter-of-fact revelations
>nor the need to load more mental poison on this board in form of images.
Deal with it faggot.
>>25186743
>are you just on /r9k/ 24 hours a day
Buddhist, Buddhist, hyperbole must be plausible. That's why your pal has chosen '18 hours a day' for his lie. Apply yourself.
>>25186593
I think the point is ultimately to recognize that it doesn't get you anywhere. Sensual pleasure is empty. Yeah, you can indulge in it, but it doesn't really do anything. Do you not feel a little tinge of disappointment the second after you orgasm?
>>25186666
The point is to maintain focus on the object of meditation, or awareness of what's happening. If you're sleepy, you get distracted and your mind wanders too easily. It defeats the purpose.
>>25186781
Dooes meditating get you anything? Apart from the disappointment?
>>25186743
Also, programming an 'automated search and alert thing' would be pretty retarded if you have automated preg based thread watcher catalog addition built in.
>awareness of what's happening
Ah. Namely?
>>25186852
Meant to quote >>25186812, mtqblox.
>>25186749
Well i guess there can't be conversation as it just ends up calling names and spamming porn.
For your info, and hopefully inspiration, i haven't felt more masculine and strong than in this period of time, as i've established my abilities in inner and outer works, and the materialization of my will into reality multiple times. It's easy to confuse emotive behaviour with strenght of will when simply reading a phrase in an imageboard, specially when used to insults and savage below avarage levels of discussion.
>>25186768
I think it's plausible that you're on a week long meth binge.
>>25186916
I think it's plausible that you're new.
>>25186915
>
For your info, and hopefully inspiration, i haven't felt more masculine and strong than in this period of time, as i've established my abilities in inner and outer works, and the materialization of my will into reality multiple times
English pls no more new-age speech, me not understand
I can believe most of the Buddhist philosophical principles, but Buddhism does have deities and it subscribes to the idea of reincarnation. It also has multiple "buddhas" and other goofy shit like "32 signs of Great Man/Buddha" which in my mind gets lumped into the weird deity shit.
So Buddhism is just like every other religion. It has sensible things to say, but it was invented thousands of years ago so it has a lot of weird voodoo shit in it that no sensible person would believe.
>>25187024
>but Buddhism does have deities and it subscribes to the idea of reincarnation. It also has multiple "buddhas" and other goofy shit like "32 signs of Great Man/Buddha"
It's just a metaphor bro, Buddhism is not to be taken literally, the people who invented those were as rigorously scientific as any today's scientist, they just chose to speak figuratively, but it makes perfect rational sense, you just need to read into it the right way, don't judge before you understand what those truly mean, it's only unambiguous on the surface, with proper reading it all becomes clear, you can't judge an ancient text at face value.>there are Buddhists out there who actually argue like that
Also.
>>25187024
>It has sensible things to say
Not true. 'In moderation' is justification of degenerative connotations. 'It's in your mind' is detraction from objectivity. 'Observe your mind' is an ad hominem. 'Suffering is in your mind' is rejection of responsibility. Literally nothing Buddhists say or do helps anyone. It is by far the most anti-intellectual faith.
>>25187007
Finally something that isn't porn.
There's nothing new agey about what i said, new age is a scam, it steals from the ancient knowledge and mixes it with "peace and love, we're one" shit, which in part can be true but is a very small piece of the whole.
Peace and love is but also the opposites are a matter of fact and needed reality, we might be one, the soul that has given birth to this existence might be one, but one is also the subjective experience of every single one of us, so you must not hesitate to bust the head of some nigger if he dares to touch you or your family.
>>25186781
>doesn't get you anywhere
Where are you trying to go? Where do you think I want to go? Is there anywhere to go? What is this striving for something? I don't understand you.
Extreme hedonism nor extreme stoicism works for me, has to be a balance, all things in moderation, including moderation, knowing there will be turbulence, times I indulge more than I have wanted to, times when I regret missed opportunities to experience worldly pleasures because I stayed in my comfort zone of stoicism.
>>25186781
>tinge of disappointment the second after you orgasm?
yes, this is what I refer to as the post-ejaculatory slump. Its purely physiological sensation related to orgasm and ejaculating. However, indulging in the sexual without orgasm and ejaculation is something I find enjoyable leisure activity, and if I manage to moderate it, ideally ejaculate once every 10 days so the impact isn't as noticeable. Honestly I feel like I am operating at a higher consciousness the longer I go without cumming, but at the same time, all that happens is becoming preoccupied with sex. Its both a good and bad thing.
But I have no expectations or attachment to non-striving and non-attachment. I just live in the balance of all things that is the human condition. Everything in nature is sexual, there's no way around it.
>>25186812
out of curiousity though meditationfag, have you tried mantra meditation as opposed to silent meditation?
>>25186820
lots of subjective an objective benefits related to health benefits and feeling in a calmer, more peaceful, happier mood. What I'm trying to illustrate though is there are many more ways to meditate than be silent in lotus position, and you don't need to be a paddy hat tipping buddhist to experience the benefits of a meditative practice.
>>25187024
>Buddhism does have deities and it subscribes to the idea of reincarnation.
There's plenty of secular Buddhism. Chinese and Japanese Buddhists tend to ignore that stuff.
>So Buddhism is just like every other religion. It has sensible things to say, but it was invented thousands of years ago so it has a lot of weird voodoo shit in it that no sensible person would believe.
Buddhism also encourages you to be skeptical. It came out of a certain cultural context that assumed things like reincarnation. You're not required to take everything at face value.
>>25187125
pls stop
blox
>>25184702
argumentum ad populum tbqh
>>25187024
There's no reincarnation. It's rebirth, which is different. Rebirth of phenomena. There's no way "you" will be "born in a new body" in buddhism.
>>25187264
>There's no reincarnation. It's rebirth
>>25187024
>you can't take certain practices while ignoring others
>>25187239
Translation:
'pls don't criticize my faith'
>>25187215
>There's plenty of secular Buddhism.
>Buddhism also encourages you to be skeptical.
>You're not required to take everything at face value.
>>25187198
>Where are you trying to go? Where do you think I want to go? Is there anywhere to go? What is this striving for something? I don't understand you.
As I get better at this I find that hedonism is basically pointless. Take it or leave it. It doesn't really do anything for me either way, so I might as well not bother. The point isn't asceticism, just the recognition that satisfaction of desire is basically empty.
I think this leads to making decisions based on intrinsic good rather than anticipated satisfaction. Because satisfaction never really comes.
>>25187264
Literally >>25187087, so soon.
'R-reincarnation is a metaphor bro, what they meant is not reincarnation of bodies, t-that's silly haha, who would believe that, we totally meant reincarnation of, uh, uh, of "phenomena", trust us!'
To be fair when "you" sleep there's no way "you" wakeup the next day.
>>25187198
>have you tried mantra meditation as opposed to silent meditation?
I have not. Mainly vipassana. I recommend walking meditation and metta also, though I don't do those often.
>>25187130
You wrote a lot of words but you still missed the point.
>, i haven't felt more masculine and strong than in this period of time, as i've established my abilities in inner and outer works, and the materialization of my will into reality multiple times
The fuck are you trying to say with this?
I think one thing a lot of people fail to realize, is that the historical Buddha never called himself enlightened. He never declared he was enlightened, as if he had the ego in him to do that, he wouldn't be enlightened.
I don't think reincarnation was ever meant to be what a lot of people interpret it as. I personally think of reincarnation as something more similar to
> A deer is killed and eaten by a wolf
>The wolf defecates, and flies eat the waste
> The flies are eaten by a frog, which is then eaten by a pregnant raccoon
>The raccoon gives birth, the energy from the deer has essentially gone to a newborn raccoon
> The energy from the deer has been "reincarnated" as a raccoon
>>25187287
the image here is also correct
We know, indisputably, that energy cannot be destroyed or created. It's always going to end up in something else.
>>25187380
"...Others were "eternalists", postulating an eternally existent self or soul comparable to that in Christianity: the atman survives death and reincarnates as another living being, based on its karmic inheritance. This is the idea that has become dominant (with certain modifications) in modern Hinduism.
The Buddha's concept was distinct, consistent with the common notion of a sequence of lives over a very long time but constrained by two core concepts: that there is no irreducible self tying these lives together (anatta) and that all compounded things are subject to dissolution, including all the components of the human person and personality (anicca)."
>>25187413
I think he's shitposting desuoriginal
>>25187434
>We know, indisputably, that energy cannot be destroyed or created. It's always going to end up in something else.
Why so verbose, Buddhist? Just get to the gist. Einstein proved reincarnation.
>>25187362
Along your lines of logic: Life is pointless, why not kill yourself?
Sensual desire is empty at its core, but so is aversion or indifference to it. Doesn't matter, I don't overthink things.
>intrinsic good
No such thing. Only people give things such value judgments
>>25187478
>Along your lines of logic: Life is pointless, why not kill yourself?
Not at all. I think you have reading comprehension problems, honestly.
>>25187436
'R-reincarnation is a metaphor bro, what I meant is not reincarnation of bodies, t-that's stupid, only those silly Mahajanapada folks believe that, what I meant is totally that, consistent with the common notion of a sequence of lives over a very long time but constrained by two core concepts, there is no irreducible self tying these lives together and that all compounded things are subject to dissolution, including all the components of the human person and personality, trust me!'
ive tried many times but i just end up falling asleep
>>25187584
Anatta is a key concept. This is not a "no true scotsman" or even "its a metaphor bro". It's a key concept.
>>25187584
>>25187623
(And, two thousand and six and four hundred years later, world has still produced no Feynman genius enough to get the inkling that that crap just means 'things change'.)
>>25187623
>concept
I can't agree. Concepts have this peculiar, often overlooked, property of referring to something.
>>25187594
Try a different position or a different time of day.
Tibetan Buddhists believe that if you don't reach enlightenment in this life that you will go to hell in the next life.
>>25187703
>Try a different position
True.May I recommend the position that 'meditation' is a harmful practice that disables your sense of things' urgency (cf. the unspoken analogs of the triple A of anger, anxiety, addiction) and narrows your awareness by rewiring your brain to perceive less of the environment and replacing it with self-absorption, while disabling your defence mechanisms against it through the impression that said self-absorption is "true" awareness, and decreasing both mind-wandering and frequency of thoughts to resume one's mind-wandering once it is disrupted?
>>25187786
I like that I can always recognize your posts. They're so thoroughly disorganized and clumsily phrased that I have trouble following after about the first 5 or 6 words. Even if I can decipher what you're actually trying to communicate, I have no idea what leads you to think such things.
>>25187786
>May I recommend the position that 'meditation' is a harmful practice that disables your sense of things' urgency (cf. the unspoken analogs of the triple A of anger, anxiety, addiction) and narrows your awareness by rewiring your brain to perceive less of the environment and replacing it with self-absorption, while disabling your defence mechanisms against it through the impression that said self-absorption is "true" awareness, and decreasing both mind-wandering and frequency of thoughts to resume one's mind-wandering once it is disrupted?
The general leveo of that urgency and the adrenaline or anxiety driven response people have to the smallest things in today's culture are wildly inappropriate. Sure meditation isn't great if you're trying avoid being eaten by animals, but meditation brings you to a better point if you're just reacting to the chaos of modern society.
>>25187866
One in time gets better at compressing fallacies' expositions, but one can only cram as much into the amount of time one's willing to spend.
>>25187913
>wildly inappropriate
>>25187913
>to a better point if you're just reacting to the chaos of modern society
>the changes that 'meditation' brings are for the better
>according to the priority system I have adopted after I have begun 'meditating'
Hmmm.
>>25186412
oi m8 you've been here for a few years so I applaud your consistency but I do recall a thread about a year ago where an anon wrecked your entire argument and personal philosophy so cleanly I'm surprised you kept posting. I wonder if the other guy is still around but I haven't seen that sort of engagement since.
>>25188012
>an anon wrecked your entire argument and personal philosophy so cleanly I'm surprised you kept posting
Post the screencap/the ds.org archive, let me point out your fallacies, keep reposting (or, most likely, just mentioning) the screencap/the ds.org archive as a proof of my incompetence.
>>25188012
>but I haven't seen that sort of engagement since.
They tend not to happen often if taking apart the position is at all difficult.
One of the things with 4chan is that, if your argument is easy to make, it's more likely to prevail most of the time by sheer volume. The more thought that has to be put into a position, the less likely it is to be shared with other anons in any kind of recurring thread because people just get sick of the effort of reposting it.
>>25188012
Of course he'd never admit to that or even recognize that it had happened.
>>25188145
>The more thought that has to be put into a position, the less likely it is to be shared with other anons in any kind of recurring thread because people just get sick of the effort of reposting it.
Much as I hate to do that in absence of a real proof that I *have* a position in this thread so far, I can confirm. That's why I have been largely fucking around in this thread with >>25187584 and >>25187357. (Not that they're false.)
>>25184702
except he didn't achieve enlightenment through meditation, he found it less enlightening than the Upanishads led him to believe, iirc
Buddha was the OG nihilist
Tried meditating. Gave me severe panic attacks. It's basically Like my shit tier, depression addled brain was sensing that I was trying to shut it off and it freaked out and went into overdrive. Made me want to off myself right there.
>>25184702
It's called mindfulness,
>>25188043
https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/15029113 It doesn't really get good until 60% of the way down
It took me a while to re-read the thread, but just on quick summary you managed to:
>Claim you only post on Buddhism for the sake of your "longer piece of writing" (still working on that?)
>Ignore all the scientific evidence regarding the benefits of meditation, later deny that you're ignoring them
>Imply there was evidence to the contrary (i.e. meditation is harmful) but it hasn't been studied
>Fail to even give background evidence that would generate such a harm hypothesis
But the real funny stuff is where you:
>Claim that pursuing "true awareness" (which you self-defined) is the real goal of life (above all others)
>Ignore later posts that redefine awareness in line with the scientific use of the word (which you implied didn't exist)
>Not give an actual response to the guy who showed you that your goal isn't actually special
>Proclaim yourself as a 95 IQ multiple-high-school-dropout (I'm somewhat impressed by this)
I was also amused when the anon basically brought up the (Western) philosophical concept of bundle theory (though he did it in Buddhist terms) and you claimed it had no implications, to which he asked you to show the lack of, to which you responded your brain just doesn't find meaning in it.
I could pick the thread apart some more but honestly your pattern of not giving a real answer and instead responding with a diarrheal stream of irrelevant ideas means I shouldn't leave you with more than this much to do it with.
>>25185693
You can meditate on your tinnitus
>>25190969
why do that when I can meditate to mantras or other pleasant sounds?
>>25191330
I could be wrong but it might make the tinnitus more bearable in general.
>>25191456
the tinnitus is bearable, pretty mild and I usually don't notice it except in the 5 minutes before falling asleep
just saying that even if I was interested in getting into silent meditation, which I'm not anyway, it might make it unpleasant.
Question for people who actually do it though- do you listen to nature sounds, binaural beats, aaauuuummmmm, or anything else, or do you actually try to make it as pitch silent as possible.
>>25184702>>25186412
Daily Buddha Vacana
December 23rd
The Lord said: That which is not yours --- put it away. Putting it away will be to your welfare and happiness. And what is not yours? Body, feeling, perception, mental constructs and consciousness are not yours. So, put them away. Putting them away will be to your welfare and happiness. It is just as if a man should gather up, burn, or do whatever he wanted with all the grass, twigs and sticks here in Jeta Grove. Would you say: 'This man is gathering us, he is burning us, he is doing what he wants with us?'
No, Lord.
And why not?
Because they are not ourselves, they are not us.
Even so, body, feeling, perception, mental constructs and consciousness are not yours.
-- S.III,34
>>25184702
>The Buddha, an ordinary human being
A Chad richfag
It's easy to renounce worldly things when you experienced the finest things in life
Lets see how the buddha would do as an ugly virgin poorfag
>>25186412
you are so pathetic that you become very funny. please do not leave, entertain me instead.
>>25191598
he would understand dukkha quicker, since his quest for hedonist would fail quicker.
r he would remain a beta, trying to live through women like you.
>>25184702
>If meditation didn't help people, why has it been around since before Christ?
because dumb people have always been sustainable to getting memed on
>>25191552
What's the point of quoting Theravada texts when almost all of the Buddhism that permeates Western society is Mahayana type? The stuff you're quoting is really only apart of today's Tibetan Buddhism (a tiny minority). Besides that, the texts are recognized to be a progressive dialogue that evolves over time, so why don't you continue from where the dialogue left off instead of backing up so far? It doesn't work the same way as a Bilble/Torah/Quran. Unbiased scholarly analyses could help you do that quicker, but that's up to you.
>>25191677
>he would understand dukkha quicker, since his quest for hedonist would fail quicker.
That's bullshit and you know it.
>he would remain a beta, trying to live through women like you.
>like you
Do you realize that knowing that pursuing sex/pleasure, especially if you're not equipped for it is useless, does not alleviate, suppress or help you transcend the craving ?
If you take all your so-called enlightened monks and get them off their mountain and into the city, all of them would fucking lose their minds when confronted with all the temptations.
You can't transcend what you didn't experience.
>>25191831
The only man on video who burned himself alive without screaming his lungs off was a meditating monk. You want to tell me the same guy wouldn't be able to live with being single?
>>25184702
BUDDHISM IS A SHITTY NORMIE MEME
>>25187024
The Buddha was agnostic about the voodoo shit. This Sutta might be a good read. The intent of the teaching is purely humanist, the rest is fluff that helps some people.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.063.than.html
>>25191855
I'm telling you that there's no merit or truth in hiding from the world pretending that you transcended it, and I'm telling you that if you lived in a monastery in the mountains somewhere in asia since you were a kid, you too would probably be able to break bricks with your little finger, run on the walls or set yourself on fire without screaming like a bitch.
>Sir on ass and do nothing.
>Expect results.
Meditation is just prayer for niggers.
>>25191932
Ok but most schools don't really do the whole "gotta be a monk" thing. Take zen for example, you could be the president of the USA and do it. The stuff doesn't seem to be about hiding from reality, or getting a one-up on anything so you're sheltered from harm. What I take from it is that it's about letting go of your unfounded core beliefs that you cling onto for safety, and then realizing that you don't need any of that to be okay. I don't think anybody NEEDS to meditate, but I personally find it helpful.
>>25192022
I have nothing against meditation or buddhism anon. My original point is just that Buddha was a Chad and a richfag so I can't get much out of his teachings since our lives are different. Just like I wouldn't have any useful tips to give to an african child soldier or an inuit hunter.
>>25192105
he had a life after being rich
>>25191994
>>25191994
>Meditation is just prayer for niggers.
this , hedonists cannot understand meditation
>>25192136
Being rich enabled him to have said life. What if he had been a poorfag ? With no time to reflect on anything, constantly trying to survive.
>>25186812
>he doesn't realise sleepiness is as much an object of meditation as anything else
>>25192186
trying to survive is what leads you to unhappiness
