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Anyone here gets sad while masturbating? Recently every time
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Anyone here gets sad while masturbating?

Recently every time I start to fap I suddenly get really sad to the point that I have to stop
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I know this feel.
I'm starting to lose interest in masturbation as well. There is no hope for me.
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that feel when crushing loneliness
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>>25170174
same here, i just rush threw it so I'm not violently horny anymore.
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Yes
Masturbation is just a routine I do every 3-5 days now, been thinking of ordering an onahole online to spice things up

The worst part is that It's now becoming more of a chore than a pleasurable experience so sometimes I just stop halfway through and end up blue-balling myself

Depression sucks anon and masturbating doesn't make it any better cause deep down you know what the problem is and porn can't distract you from it for very long

pls respond
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>>25170174
>>25170200
>>25170202

the thing is that I don't know why I get sad, I have some theories, but I'm not sure of which is

I wouldn't call it depression though, I don't think I'm having it as bad as you do guys, but it sure is worrysome
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>when you can't watch porn or even see a girl anymore without getting depressed to the point of tears because you want to be one so badly
I'm so tired of this life.
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I would bet there is an addiction to masturbation and some people here suffer from it, but it sounds so retarded that nobody would take it seriously
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>>25170226
it's worse with hentai

>"Senpai, I always loved you"
>"I'm so happy feeling your warm embrace"
>"A-at least kiss me..."
>"It doesn't hurt at all"
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>>25170142
I usually fall asleep.
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>>25170250
>fall asleep
>while masturbating

that's a new one

holy shit, how long does it take for you?
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>>25170142
i usually get sad afterwards....
and before
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>masturbating
>look out of the balcony door
>see a happy couple walking and enjoying the sunny day
>stop
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>>25170429
>masturbating to hentai
>happy couples everywhere
>stop
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>>25170142
I've never had a pleasurable fap. I've come to conclude that it's all mental, and my mind just doesn't really know how to get aroused and enjoy an orgasm, I've got a big post about what makes fapping enjoyable if you guys want it.
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>>25171243
Fuck it, I'll post it. Then I'm gonna shower.

I used to come here for fap advice, I thought I'd return the favour with some of my discoveries. Hopefully they will increase your pleasures.

To make a long story short, I'm a virgin who's NEVER had a good fap, but I've came up with some ideas about what makes a fap pleasurable, and I want some opinions.

I'll note that since I'm a guy, I'll be sticking to appropriate terminology for that, although this might be applicable for others.
Anyway...
One tip I was always given when looking for fap advice was that a lot of it was mental, makes sense really - if you were to grab your dick and fap until you cum, without looking at anything or imagining anything, it'll be a shit fap. Naturally however, what you do physically plays a part, the fact that onaholes and hundreds of different fapping methods exist is proof alone of that.
So, let's break things down a little bit and make an obvious statement 'The pleasure from fapping comes entirely from what you do both physically and mentally'.

Now, one question worth answering is now 'if the pleasure from fapping comes entirely from what you do both physically and mentally, how are they divided? For example, does what you do physically give you more pleasure than what you do mentally?', well I suppose I'm one of the least qualified people to answer, given that I'm here saying that I've never had a single pleasurable fap but I'd argue the mental part plays a larger role than the physical one, if you want to prove that to yourself then I'd suggest one of two things:
1) Find something you find actively unarousing and then get all your favourite fapping stuff (your best onahole, lube, whatever) and then fap to it, I'd reckon it'll be shit.
cont...
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>>25171243
>>25171295
2) Try erotic hypnosis a few times, specifically the type that promises to make you cum without touching yourself. I've never got it to work since one of my friends got me to promise that I'd avoid it, but assuming it does work (and I've seen numerous reports that it not only does but that's it's very pleasurable), that's proof that you can have a pleasurable fap with no physical component whatsoever.
I could give plenty of other examples, like blue balling yourself with thoughts alone (I've done that a couple of times... being able to control your dreams can be a curse) or how anxiety makes it so that some guys can't even get it up.

So long story short, I'd argue that the mental part plays a significantly bigger role than the physical part. On a tangental note, I think this is a decent way to be sure of your sexuality, I know that I'm straight because when I'm half asleep, I find myself fantasying about women and if I do it for long enough, I can fucking blue ball myself.

Come to think of it, have you ever been in a thread where people talk about their first faps? The vast majority of people seem to have enjoyed their's, and you can't for a fucking second tell me that they just happened to have good technique the first time they did it - if it was pleasurable, it was the hype that did it, that is - it was mental.

So, I'm left with a more personal question - what am I doing wrong?
Well, here's a few things:
1) I was exposed to porn at a very young age and I've always been able to control my dreams (apparently it's correlated with playing too many video games), so there's nothing I haven't fantasised about - nothing is novel to me. I have no hype.
2) My attitude is probably wrong, I don't fap expecting to enjoy it.

To be honest, I'm probably doing more things wrong, but since I've never had it right, I can never be sure. I'd appreciate help in that regard.
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>>25171243
>>25171295
>>25171307
Actually, there's one other thing I want to say. As errotic hypnosis proves, the mental side alone is powerful enought to produce a good fap, but there's a weird side to this that kinda confuses me. Imagine something sexy, really sexy, try not to fap. Just lie back and fantasise for a few minutes. If you've done it right, you're probably horny and want to fap, like I've said, if you keep going you can blue ball yourself but... have you had fun? Have you actually experianced any pleasure? I suspect you haven't, but I'd imagine that for most people that if you kept fantaisiing and fapped now you'd probably have some fun, but that's kinda what confuses me, I don't see where the fun's introudced. Fantasising alone isn't fun, and just grabbing your dick and jerking it until you cum isn't either, so at what point, when you combind the top does it become fun?

Thoughts?

Also, if anyone wants, I can move away from this sob story and post some advice for fapping based on what I've learned trying to get a good fap, but I was hoping to get some thoughts on the above first.

Here's one interesting response that I've had:
>I've heard pleasure described as "alleviation of discomfort," and that seems to work here. Arousal is uncomfortable - you warm up, blood rushes to your genitals, and your thoughts stray unwillingly. Look at your scenarios, and you can see why there's no pleasure - when you're just fantasizing, there's discomfort but no alleviation. When you're just grabbing your dick and pumping, there's no arousal, hence no discomfort. You can't really derive pleasure from either of those. It's just the combination - arousal, then release - that feels pleasurable.
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I draw my own fetish porn and fap to that. No "feels" here, just pee-pee friction pleasure. Ain't no need to make it any more complicated.
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>>25171344
>pee-pee friction pleasure
What? I don't even know what that is even trying to mean.
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Maybe it is because it makes you realize how lonely you are and that you'll never have someone to enjoys the pleasures of sex with.

At least it is what happens to me.
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I find myself focusing on the cinematography of pornography more than paying attention to wahts going on at this point. Honestly I only turn on porn out of habit these days, I could masturbate just as easily without it.
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Sometimes I get sad afterwards, because of the material I fap to. I'm ashamed of it but I keep going back.
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