I'm legitimately scared that this fucking retard will be the next president of the United States. It's giving me anxiety and panic attacks every time I see nearly universal support for this moron.
name ONE (1) bad thing wrong with him
EXCEPT marijuana legizlation
>>25135167
Too bad, you're gonna become Nordic and you're gonna like it.
>>25135211
Thinks that money grows on trees, promises the masses that all of their problems will be solved for free.
>>25135211
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCsRDLC0IA
>>25135211
It would be harder for me to find one good thing about him
he's a socialist, that alone makes him a tremendous retard
I don't hate many people but I fucking hate this jew
>>25135211
>guy can't find anything wrong with a bona fide socialist
>except with drug legalization
My god, /r9k/ IS full of retards!
>>25135216
I'm considering moving to another country but everywhere is getting cucked. These are troubled times we live in, my friends.
It's only a matter of time, wagecucks. Tick tock. Tick tock.
>>25135269
That's a fallacy anon.
>>25135310
That's a fallacy, too
The democrats hate him with a passion and are actively trying to destroy him to give it to Hillary. He doesn't have a chance, he is only a meme online candidate.
>>25135306
>tfw Republicans want to take my bux away
>>25135211
My liberal friends adore him. That alone lets me know that he is someone I would never want in office.
>>25135326
>Democrats hate him
On what planet?
>>25135274
Gotta vote for the cux to get the bux
>>25135167
>thinking the President is King of the United States
>implying that he'll be able to do change anything about the establishment with the current legislature
>>25135292
One country remains uncucked, with the only alpha leader left, though he's stupid as shit
And it is Mother Russia.
>>25135310
What part of it was a fallacy?
>he's a socialist, that alone makes him a tremendous retard
If you disagree with that you must be a retard. Just my opinion, doesn't make it a fallacy.
He doesn't have a real chance. Shillary was always going to get the nomination.
This old kike's campaign was dead in the water from the start.
>>25135347
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/18/democrats-punish-bernie-sanders-campaign-following-clinton-data-breach
The DNC is trying to destroy his campaign
>>25135379
>if you disagree with my opinion, you're a retard
You know, there's a board for this.
>>25135211
>post post
>leave thread
>come back
>refresh
>5 replies
>check them all
>mfw none of them still answer my question
Top fucking kek my lads ;^)
>>25135326
you are uninformed
I suggest you go outside and try to communicate with people
he's the normie's favorite by far
>>25135167
the president is just a figurehead anon, it doesn't matter who you elect nothing major is going to change
relax desu
>>25135394
This is the voice of a small organization. It doesn't necessarily mirror the views of the typical democrat voter.
>>25135406
someone did answer your question, you fucking retard.
>>25135449
Why are republicans always so angry?
>>25135395
But you are a retard, anon.
>>25135394
Bernie already made his point. He already has a legion of loyal cocksuckers. He can't be stopped.
>>25135448
>the Democratic National Committee, which controls the Democratic Party's money, is a small powerless organization
I bet you think the parties care about the rank-and-file membership's opinions
>>25135469
Why are you calling me a retard? You responded to my first comment on the thread. I think you're scared, Tbh.
>>25135465
Calling you a retard doesn't mean he is mad. Have you ever considered that you're actually retarded, anon?
>>25135233
I don't think you understand what he means when he says "free". The things he is proposing work extremely well in other countries, and the only argument anyone can ever muster is LOL BUT SOCIALISM.
>>25135519
I'm scared that a retard like you has voting power, if anything.
>>25135521
>calling you a retard
But he called someone else a retard, anon. Why do republicans use ad hominem arguments? They don't work.
Non-Christian candidates have a huge disadvantage, so it's very unlikely that he'll take it all the way.
And him being so incredibly tax-and-spend is another huge strike against him. It scares the fuck out of conservatives and even to a certain extent liberal voters too.
IMHO, Hillary is way to corrupted to be trusted, since she's been in the game for so long.
Donald is the most "honest" of the candidates because he can speak *exactly* what he thinks and he truly doesn't give a sweet fuck. Not that that's a good thing, but it's at least a change of some sort.
I'm at a loss to chose any of the available candidates.
>>25135548
How am I a retard, again? It seems like the only noun you know.
>>25135549
People of every group insult others. It's not a trait exclusive to republicans. It's human nature, you imbecile. You're called a retard often because people see you as a retard.
>>25135211
The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money.
I believe in him bros
>>25135167
You're one dumb pile of shit and you should kill yourself. Sanders said some pretty good things that would help us NEETs
>>25135667
When was this poll taken? Bush left the race a while ago.
Who are you voting for and why /r9k/?
>>25135669
Kill yourself you worthless piece of shit
You're a detriment to society
>>25135167
Just a reminder that if you vote republican, they will no longer send us neetbux and you will have to get a job.
Voting republican is the least robot thing you can do
>>25135685
Can't snooze the Cruz
>>25135685
Bernie. NEET bucks.
>>25135685
Rand Paul
Or whoever runs the libertarian ballot
>>25135538
Oh like in the most socalist Canadian state, Quebec, where the debt is growing exponentially and the roads / hospitals are worse than ever? America has too many poor people from other countries for socialism to be anything but a pipe dream or the fastest way to the third world.
However - if we make america great again and get it near ideal standards of human education, quality, and wealth than socialism is cool with me. I'm not giving my hard earned stem degree dollars to overbreeding niggers, at least not more than I already am.
>>25135725
>he's not self employed
Fuck off you smelly neet
>>25135167
>universal support
Not even close. He's not even on the ballot yet in many states
also
>panic attacks and anxiety
aww, did the liberal menace trigger you? go back to your safe space, faggot
>>25135669
Kill yourself i'm not really NEET, Sanders is going to help the middle class and provide free college.
>>25135685
Honestly, if I HAD to vote, the ONLY candidate that isn't completely horrible is The Trumpster. I hate to say it, but it's true - he best represents my reprehensible interests.
>>25135752
Johnson has turned into a shill. He doesn't care about our freedoms as much as he says he does.
>>25135743
Bernie isn't going to give you more neet bucks you retard. He'd spend it on free education or whatnot. And I doubt a republican candidate can even take away your neet bucks. It wouldn't be passed in congress. If anything, your neetbux will vanish once Gibsmedat turns the entire western civilization into fat neckbeard neets that don't work.
>>25135788
Looks like someone had a rough day at elementary school.
>>25135813
>Trump wouldn't take away my autismbux
Yeah, OK.
>>25135367
This. Fucking this. If anything, the President is a figurehead with a minimal amount of pull in legislation.
>>25135860
No matter how much you he wants to do that, I doubt he could pull it off. That's not how the presidency works. He's not a king.
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Who's the most center-left candidate? I'm more liberal than conservative but the democratic candidates are complete fucking morons that don't know what they're talking about. Bernie couldn't stop talking about "the wage gap" and other degeneracy.
>>25135870
>>25135367
Reflect on how destructive our last two presidencies were. I implore you to reevaluate your opinion.
>>25135551
>Donald is the most "honest" of the candidates
I can see why you (and many others) think this way, but crudeness doesn't necessarily equal honestly. He's also not guaranteed to be free from corporate influence just because he's funding his own campaign. He's probably making a shit ton of money from this in some way or the other.
The dude is also horribly misinformed and shows it every time he speaks. Whenever someone calls him out on saying something factually incorrect, he just makes le smug pepe face and his supporters on /pol/ cheer about it.
The other republican candidates represent his ideas in a more practical way. People are only supporting him because he's the loudest, and Americans are drawn to shiny things and loud noises.
>>25135924
Gary Johnson. He's a cuck, though, and he'll look like an idiot to get votes.
My dad is crazy about him. And my mom wont say it but I have a feeling she is a Trump memer.
>>25135924
It doesn't matter because only Bern and Shillary will even have a chance.
>>25135889
Then what are we voting for, exactly? If everyone in America besides one person decided to stay home, would anything change at all?
>>25135933
People say this every fucking presidency.
>>25135938
How is he a cuck anon? Does he just lack a spine or is he just beta in the way he acts?
>>25135167
sanders and trump are both meme candidates
neither has any chance at winning
>>25135852
Well meme'd, my easily triggered tumblrina friend. None of that replied to any part of my comment.
Bernie only has support on reddit and on ultraliberal college campuses. There's a facebook meme going around for people to vote and try to get him on the dem candidacy ballot in Illinois right now because he's even not on it yet.
>>25135991
He enjoys watching his wife fuck black men
He's like the anthony bursch of presidential candidates
>>25135793
>free
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>>25135538
>Socialism works elsewhere, so it will work in America.
Fallacy
>>25135753
>Socialism doesn't work in this one place, so it won't work in America.
Fallacy
Rustled?
haha he won't even get the nomination hillary has already bought it
>>25135167
>Obama 2008/2012
>"omg so tired of old white men in office xddd so tired of career politicians"
>same people, 2016
>"If you don't vote for the oldest, whitest man and longest-running career politician, you're worse than Hitler."
God bless Ameriga
Also, my grandpa fought socialists. He spent weeks in a Socialist prison camp. He firebombed the gooks and rescued his fellow soldier from the same prison camp he spent time in. Now, we're thanking him by electing a Socialist to office.
>>25135991
He'll shill anything party-related to get votes. He was ecstatic when gay marriage was passed, even though most libertarians didn't like the call. He's basically a puppet that nobody wants.
>>25135924
O'Malley for the democrats, and Kasich for the republicans. They're both relatively moderate and pretty willing to work with the other side to get stuff done.
Unfortunately, neither of them have any soundclips screaming about Trump or le muslim menace, so they don't have much popular support.
>>25136004
well tipped my neckbeard
>>25136047
Oh yeah, cuz it was the socialism that did that to him, not the fact that he was at war.
>>25135951
Hillary is so untrustworthy it's almost cartoonish. The people in my town are on their knees ready to sniff Bernie's farts. I expected him to be some what agreeable but he's just as bad.
>>25136047
I'll thank your faggot grandpa with a dick up his ass you fucking cunt
You war vet's kiddies are such proud little cocksucker's of other people's accomplishments
Literally no one cares
Yes OP
instead of Meme Sanders you're going to vote for Memeald trump?
If you're not voting for Rand than it's pretty clear that you just don't give a shit about freedom because you only see the White House as some fucking reality TV show
Fuck /pol/ and their thirst for some fascist totalitarian shithole
Bernie wants more trains, so I support him. however, if a non cuck candidate expressed a love of trains, I would support them instead
>>25136047
>Bernie
>White
>>25136077
>Hillary is so untrustworthy it's almost cartoonish
the normies don't know that, kiddo
>>25136119
This.
The lack of support for a train candidate really shows how downhill /r9k/ has gone. We haven't even had a proper train thread in a while
>>25136145
Don't derail the thread, anon.
>>25136119
Bro, I thought you were better than this. Bernie is literally reddit: the president.
>>25136156
I'm crashing this train with no survivors
I support Bernie or Trump.
Bernie could maybe help neets and provide a just society for all. Maybe he'll collapse evverything in the attempt, which is fine by me.
Trump will just burn it all down out of spite.
How can anyone here not love both of these guys? They're yin and yang. I'll accept either.
>>25136219
that's a plane, stupid
Trump supporters who cry that Bernie is making unrealistic promises to his supporters fucking baffle me.
You want Mexico to pay for a wall? You want to go to China and "make a good deal" with them? You want to ban all muslims and then deport 10 million aliens? God. At least Bernie wouldn't make us the world's laughing stock.
>>25136266
Not every republican or anti Bernie shill is a trumpfag, you retard
>>25136266
>At least Bernie wouldn't make us the world's laughing stock.
>>25135167
>hates the only guy who would make NEET life more comfy
i dont get you guys sometimes
>>25136297
They're both shity choices, and Hillary is a corporate shill
There's LITERALLY no hope
>>25136266
> You want Mexico to pay for a wall? You want to go to China and "make a good deal" with them? You want to ban all muslims and then deport 10 million aliens? God. At least Bernie wouldn't make us the world's laughing stock.
Ironically, building such a wall (or forcing Mexico do to so, one way or another) and all that mass deportation and immigration screening would increase the size of government and waste billions in taxpayer dollars.
But the idea that shitskin can afford a hamburger in America is just too much for conservatives to bear for some reason. It will literally cost more to keep him away from the hamburger "he hasn't earned" than to buy him a damn hamburger every night, and our society doesn't need to be a paramilitary shithole to do it.
>>25136337
I'm more liberal than conservative, but I'd gladly vote for Trump if he was on the ballot. The purpose of voting is to show beauracrats what we like, and what I like is a politician who will say, "Who cares what's trendy? I stand up for what's right!"
>>25136321
>everyone on /r9k/ is a neet
We need to end this shitty fucking meme. If everyone here was a neet, there wouldn't be wagecuck and uni feels threads. If you think everyone is a neet you're a deluded idiot.
Bernie's a good guy.
>>25135211
Except marijuana legalization is the only good thing about this moron, you dumb shit. Kill yourself.
>>25135167
What is it like being so dumb lol? It's literally less than 2 weeks to 2016 and your so dumb lol.
>>25136407
Anon, this is against global rule number three.
yaaaa. so just take the money I have earned and redistribute it.
And while you're at it, we'll all have the same mortgage rate..
Socialism does not work as an economic infrastructure. It has never worked, See 1451-2015.
The only reason that you would want to vote for him is beacuse you feel that you've been "cheated by the system"..
Maybe you shouldn't have bought dumb fucking materialist things with your shit pay check. Maybe you shouldn't have gone to a college that you couldn't have afforded, to get a fucking retareded degree.
Just because society doesn't value you "sociology" degree skill-set doesn't mean that you've been cheated.
If your skills aren't found to be valuable in our capitalistic system then maybe you should have though of that before.
Nothing is a privilege, the world, and the US government do not owe you a fucking cent.
>>25136411
no but i think most of you would choose neet over anything if it was more comfy
being neet in the us is a pain, or so i hear, but bernie would sort that shit out
>>25136448
Marijuana causes homosexuality and aids and it can even turn you into a nigger
>>25136407
I know you're funnin, mate, but there are seriously people that paranoid out there.
Why the fuck would you vote someone into office who would run the country into the ground on the basis that at least he'd let you have a handgun to blow your own brains out without a background check?
Because to some people, their fantasy of shooting Jamal is more important than the day-to-day happiness of millions of actual people.
>>25136462
Oh shit
I don't care anymore
>>25136024
>in one place
Name ONE (1) successful socialist state.
>>25136488
what makes you think he gives a shit about neets?
R-ron paul is going to join the race, r-right?
>>25136578
Because SJW's care about us, and he cares about them.
>>25136456
>lol, lol ur so dum lol. lol.
Okay, retard.
>>25136456
TWO THOUSAND AND SIXTEEN
I MEAN COME ON
>>25136597
>Because SJW's care about us
I'm pretty sure you disgust them profoundly unless you happen to be a black women with 8 kids
>>25136513
Tbh I was only half joking
I'm not joking about the guns. I don't really have a shooting fantasy or anything. I use it for hunting and keep it under my bed for safekeeping. I'll just utter that old phrase to help my last point.
Better to have something and not need it than need it and not have it.
>>25135233
But anon, money does come from nothing.
It is literally nothing.
>>25136466
> yaaaa. so just take the money I have earned and redistribute it.
Do you make more than $200,000 annually? Because that's the only way you'd see any change to your tax rate under anyone's proposals, including Bernie's.
> And while you're at it, we'll all have the same mortgage rate..
Given that we regulate the interest rate on most loans, why not?
> Socialism does not work as an economic infrastructure. It has never worked, See 1451-2015.
Except for all those places and times where it does work - see every first world nation other than the USA.
> The only reason that you would want to vote for him is beacuse you feel that you've been "cheated by the system"..
No, I'm voting for him because he's willing to challenge plutocrats and make them pay for their external costs to society.
> Maybe you shouldn't have bought dumb fucking materialist things with your shit pay check. Maybe you shouldn't have gone to a college that you couldn't have afforded, to get a fucking retareded degree.
I got a full ride and majored in CS, you dip. I also make six figures as a software engineer.
>
Just because society doesn't value you "sociology" degree skill-set doesn't mean that you've been cheated. If your skills aren't found to be valuable in our capitalistic system then maybe you should have though of that before.
Hindsight is 20/20, right? How the fuck is an 18 year-old kid going to know what's going to be economically viable four years from now? Or are conservatives just psychic?
> Nothing is a privilege, the world, and the US government do not owe you a fucking cent.
If you had the balls to say that to Fanny Mae, Kaiser Permenantae, and several other fine corporate "citizens" I might be able to respect you.
>>25136601
>retard
There it is again! Why do republicans do this?
>>25136649
Give me all your money then if it's nothing, you fucking tard
>>25135233
>the fed prints new money out of thin air
>wall street tap on a keyboard and create new money out of thin air
but i guess thats cool
>>25136629
They're our number 1 fans. They hold onto every Jew and nigger joke we say.
>>25135367
The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
>>25136668
>I got a full ride and majored in CS, you dip. I also make six figures as a software engineer.
Did you really think he was talking directly to you, you fucking idiot? He was making general statements.
>>25136588
his son is in the race
>>25136674
You probably hear it a lot because you're an actual retard
Is Martin O'Malley a good choice?
>>25136649
Money and its value doesn't come from nothing. It comes from supply and demand i.e. the economy.
>>25136643
Why is this gun so important to you that condemning millions of people to suffer in poverty is a good idea?
I'm all for lax gun laws. I've seen the data. We libs are more or less wrong on this one. But economic inequality is way, way more important than guns will ever be.
You literally cannot own enough assault rifles to rebel against a government with drone strikes and NSA wiretaps. There is literally nothing stopping them from taking apart an armed revolution - but they're still listening to the ballot box and that's something.
>>25136743
if you can't decide for yourself you shouldn't be voting
>>25136707
And I stand as a counterexample, part of an ongoing effort to demand actual evidence of some kind when you hear a sweeping statement made about you.
>>25136076
Name a living American who's been to a prison camp run by non-socalists.
Let's say you're a Jew, and your grandparents were in the Holohoax, and your nation starts talking about how they need to bring back National Socialism. Also, you sound like a cuck.
>>25136732
You're a cumdumpster.
>>25136668
Literally le reddit le post
>>25136838
>this reddit bernie cocksucker is THIS mad
top kek
>>25136297
>At least Bernie wouldn't make us the world's laughing stock
>The president who wants to make this country exactly like the rest of the developed world would make us the world's laughing stock
LMAO
>>25136668
>see every first world nation other than the USA
into the trash you go
>>25136047
>implying that those people wouldn't want you to vote for shillary
also, is the fact that amerifats don't know the difference between commies and socialists not just a meme anymore?
>>25136808
> Name a living American who's been to a prison camp run by non-socalists.
George H. W. Bush
>>25136343
costs more to hire a security guard than it does to replace $5 in candy every night, but that doesn't stop convenience stores.
>>25136891
the only difference between communism and socialism is the size and power of the government
>>25136862
But I'm a Trump supporter. You came up with the rest on your own.
>>25136489
That's mainly due to all the degenerate culture surrounding it, legalize it and after a few years i guarantee at the very least nigger rappers wont be hyping it up anymore and it will be looked at the same as tobacco
>>25136753
You literally just said nothing, you fucking proved my mother fucking point by saying absolutely nothing.
>>25136920
Sure you are Bernard
Stay mad, lad
>>25136917
No it's not.
In a communist government, the government owns all means of production.
In a socialist government, the government doesn't.
How do people this uninformed just go and talk about stuff they know nothing about on the internet?
>>25136840
Yeah, man, wow, never thought of it that way. The fact that you think my opinion resembles reddit was a very insightful and unexpected refutation of my ideas. I am completely 100% convinced.
>>25136959
nice fedora
>>25136916
Yeah, because corporations are fucking dumb. I've worked for four and been party to the internal business of many more. Every single one of them wasted so much money on total bullshit, it makes the government look thrifty by comparison.
>>25136947
>How do people this uninformed just go and talk about stuff they know nothing about on the internet?
Is this your first day here?
>>25136756
First, how is me owning a gun condemning anyone? I don't want any to suffer poverty. I've been there and done that. That's why I do community service when I can.
I'm assuming you mean it that way at least. If Bernie gets into office and everything is "free", then we just started a whole neet generation. We basically cuck the world. And with some other world leaders, they will fight back.
Economic inequality is what you're getting at, right? Instead of being a feminist dance therapist, be a petroleum engineer. You see what I'm getting at? If you wanna be a dance therapist or whatever, go ahead. It's your choice. But don't complain about it afterwards. You reap what you sow.
I never said I was going to take down the fucking government. I have it there should worse come to worse.
I guess you believe what you wish, but really think hard about what I've proposed here. Not saying you have to agree, just give it a think through.
>>25136942
>you're this butt flustered
What a retard, amirite?
He's better educated than you and every person you know. You're calling him dumb because you're the demographic most susceptible to right wing propaganda.
>>25136995
I wish this was my first day here so I would never have gotten addicted to this wretched hive of scum and villainy.
>>25137039
I think you need one of these, anon. You seem upset.
>>25135167
BUT Y DO U TINK HE RETARTED LOOK HE WIL MAEK US FREE AMERICANS AGAIN HE WILL MAEK THE RICH PPLS GIVE FREE MONNIES TO THE NORMAL AMERICANS VOTE BERNIE SANDERS XDDD
>>25137134
>looking for any picture to sound less mad than you really are
Do memes help you calm down, anon?
>>25136554
Mixed economy nations are literally the entire Western world, and as far as what out Americans would consider socialist practically every other developed country on Earth is one. Most of them, particularly Scandinavia, are considered successful, though the refugee invasion permitted by their cuck leaders is getting to them.
>>25136947
it happens more often than you would think
>>25137029
>Instead of being a feminist dance therapist, be a petroleum engineer
I don't think you understand what it means to be poor.
Let's look at me for example. I've fucked up so many times as a child it's insane. I was arrested for having weed, got a few speeding tickets, fucked off until like junior year of highschool, and now I'm finishing my premed and applying to med school. You know why I was capable of doing this? Because my daddy and mommy could shell out the thousands of dollars required to seal my record, pay for my tickets, and pay for a college that I didn't get high enough grades to get a full ride. It's actually really difficult to get a full ride, you know. In fact, if both of your parents are working all the time, you can't really get rides to school and back, so it's harder to participate in extracurricular activities and volunteer. Some days, you might have to work the evening instead of studying and doing your homework.
Yes, there's hard work involved in things and making right choices, but people's lives aren't shitty because they didn't major in petroleum engineering, most people's lives are shitty because they couldn't even afford to go to college or their parents weren't around them as a kid. It's amazing how people are this stupid.
>>25137167
Top fucking kek this buttblasted redditor is THIS mad
>>25137203
>redditor
The only people who unironically use this to dismiss people are other redditors.
>>25137047
>bachelor's in political science
1/3 of the adults in the united states are more educated than him, you fucking retard. Don't kid yourself.
>>25135924
k-kono PRESSUA!
>>25137230
>he's still THIS mad
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, reddit
>>25137203
Why are you in such anal pain, Tumblrina?
>>25137307
There is no need to be this upset, anon.
This election is so dumb.
Trump primarily wants to get rid of illegal aliens. Because they're definitely related to why the Great Recession happened, am I right? His other ideas sound nice but I'm sure they'll just play second-fiddle to his wall nonsense.
Sanders is focused on fixing our economy, but he's got the wrong ideas. Too much socialism. He can't possibly pull off another FDR. He's risky.
Everybody else is a literally who, otherwise I have no clue what they want.
>>25136433
>basing your political views off a computer program
Does it get any more cuck?
>>25135167
Not sure who I'd rather want as President, him or Trump
>>25137200
Well, I really hate to hear that. I really do. I hope you succeed in life.
However, your mistakes are your doing. Why should I have to pay for them with no guarantee that you'll stay away from the more unsavory things of life. If you can't get a ride, manage your money really hard to get a job. If you need to do your homework and work is in the way, at least try and negotiate with someone to get help.
Same way with college. You don't have the money? Learn and/or do something to get the funds. My best friend worked as a columnist for a local magazine for three years, started investing in stocks during the 2008 crash, and later sold those stocks. He got a degree in business financing, and now runs a very successful business. All of that from being a small time writer for a local magazine. It is possible to do.
Might I suggest you read Andrew Carnegie's Gospel of Wealth? It explains everything I've said and more in greater detail. Just a little food for thought.
>suggesting trump is a better option
Bernie is the only logical choice, because he actually CARES about the country.
>>25135367
>what are executive orders
Trickle down economics, libertarianism DOES NOT work. It's been proven time and time again. It's destroyed our society. It caused the meltdown. In bred brainwashed hicks voting republican are fucking pathetic. Worthless scum needs to be fucking eradicated
>>25137200
I live comfortably with no degree, jesus I know first-generation Mexican immigrants who make nearly six figures after emigrating decades ago with zero connections. Because they know how to work.
Bernie 2016 though, I guess.
>>25135211
The Federal government most likely won't be able to pay millennials Social Security when they reach 67. How the fuck will it be able to pay for them all to go to college as well?
>>25137694
>politician
>cares
TOP KEK
For a board that prides itself on being cerebral loners who live on the fringes of society it's depressing how many people in this thread fall for the mistaken belief of thinking they have political agency.
From gerrymandering to media agenda setting and campaign funding to interest groups, the individual voter exerts no palpable influence on policy and representation.
I expect more out of r9k than unwitting stooges.
>>25136047
It's not about that -- it's about ideas. And I don't think Obama was a bad president. We are not in a recession anymore.
Anyway, think for yourself. I think it's really foolish to use your grandparents as an example for some ideas. My grandmother was a huge racist and didn't support civil rights. My uncle fought in the Vietnam war. We live in a different time than your grandfather. You can still honor him in other ways, by actually doing what you believe in besides just hopping on an /r9k/ bandwagon.
I'm not saying that I'm a supporter of whoever, I just think you all are hopping on a really misinformed bandwagon.
>>25135935
People like Trump because he's willing to speak his mind. Aside from him and Bernie literally all of the other candidates will say anything to get elected.
All the other Republicans walk on eggshells and just spout popular opinion.
>>25135935
>Americans are drawn to shiny things and loud noises.
this tbqhwy senpai
>>25137730
Nice ad hominem and dubs.
If you really think trickle down economics don't work, take a look at socialism. The idea literally contradicts itself. Give people all the equality. How will you regulate it? Give people more power to regulate it? Corruption. No regulations? People will fight for all the power they can get their hands on. Corruption.
In any form of government, people get cucked. This is just the lesser of the evils.
>mfw my white and gold Make America Great Again hat should arrive tomorrow
Can't wait to go trigger some liberals
>>25136115
I'm already fed with /pol/'s katana-wielding ultra edgy memes, it's not even funny anymore. They won't stop until it's too late and Hitler's reincarnation is fucking them up their collective asses because they're not the perfect aryans they think they are.
>>25136115
Are you old enough to remember the shitshow of a circus that was the 2008 election? Don't act like this is the first time a meme candidate will become president.
>>25138009
>socialism doesnt work
>most succesful countries are socialist
Ok retard not reading your message do the research fuck off and die
>>25136554
America.
The UK.
France.
Germany.
All of Scandinavia.
Japan.
China.
Russia.
Cuba.
>>25138251
Damn you're on fire with this ad hominem shit aren't you.
It's not the socialism I'm worried about. It's the aftermath. We were founded on capitalism. If we became socialist, everything would lose balance. People probably could not adapt to the lifestyle and society properly. The economy would crash due to the economic equilibrium and most businesses being cut down at the knees. Socialism would fail, and people revolt. Then we have communism. So, can you say the same thing about communism? You'd be back in the sweatshops and being cucked worse than ever before.
Keep throwing the insults also. Really makes you seem intelligent. Go back and have your human centipede ass eating with colonel sanders and Tyreece.
>>25138285
>All of Scandinavia
>France
>The UK
>implying
China isn't even socialist you dipshit, Cuba is communist and Russia is capitalistic. Try again friendo.
>>25136115
>you only see the White House as some fucking reality TV show
That's not all it is?
>>25135167
>anxiety and panic attacks over a guy running for president
LMAO how much of a weak faggot are you?
>>25138610
>Russia is capitalistic
The fuck?
>>25138285
18 trillion in debt and all brands of social problems
Basically on its way to 1984
Bombed by refugee terrorists and has had God knows how many revolutions. Possibly on the way to another. At the rate they're going, economic instability is inevitable.
Birthplace of socialism, and, due to these ideologies, put in deep shit many times before. Effects of these fuck ups still felt to this day.
Some of the highest poverty rates in the world besides borderline socialist cities in the US
Average civilians work massive shifts, over 18 hours per day in the worst instances. While having the worlds highest gdp, workers suffer the above. Not having children. If not careful and have kids, the nation could be in great danger. Very honor based society, which is basically impossible for the United States.
Sweatshops. Just sweatshops. Communist.
Also communist, just not to the degree of China. Very corrupt government. Like, not even in a funny way.
TOP KEK
In this socialist ideology, you have two options. Work insane shifts like the japs, or work normal shifts and end up poor as shit (Sweden)
>>25138251
>socialism works in small, mostly white Scandinavian countries that have populations less than big cities in America
>hurr that can totally work just as well in a country with 350 million people, 40% of whom are non-white
If the US stopped subsidizing Europe's defense and made them pay for their own defense, all those socialist countries would cut tons of benefits overnight. It's only possible because we're paying their defense bill.
>>25138940
This anon. This.
>>25137029
> First, how is me owning a gun condemning anyone?
It isn't. You only condemn people when you put gun rights ahead of economic matters that are life and death to your fellow Americans.
> I'm assuming you mean it that way at least. If Bernie gets into office and everything is "free", then we just started a whole neet generation. We basically cuck the world. And with some other world leaders, they will fight back.
I have no idea what you mean here.
> Economic inequality is what you're getting at, right? Instead of being a feminist dance therapist, be a petroleum engineer. You see what I'm getting at? If you wanna be a dance therapist or whatever, go ahead. It's your choice. But don't complain about it afterwards. You reap what you sow.
Wait, what? So if I'm born poor, fail school because my parents beat me and peers bully me, then it's my fault somehow? I agree that many people live their lives without a practical plan, but this isn't about feminist dance therapists - their parents will always be shelling out for them anyway. This is about people with no other choice.
> I never said I was going to take down the fucking government. I have it there should worse come to worse.
Then urge fellow gun owners to cut back on their bullshit. The less aggro people are about guns, the looser gun laws will become.
> I guess you believe what you wish, but really think hard about what I've proposed here. Not saying you have to agree, just give it a think through.
I've heard the Just World fallacy before. The world is not fair. Only humans are capable of acting morally. Everything good in this world was built because someone sacrificed their short-term interests for the common good. Bill Gates is a great example.
He really is a moron. In 2011, he got in a tizzy because the Smithsonian was selling bobbleheads made in China. This dumbass thought that Americans should be making bobbleheads for some reason. He was really pissed about it.
He is a nationalist/nativist and protectionism. His ideas don't work in the global economy and a world where anyone can have an effect on the global market.
I feel bad that the dumbest of people like him, but i am not surprised.
>>25136947
Communism and socialism are economic systems , and say nothing about the system of government, you fucking retard. Kill yourself.
I used to think like OP when I still had hope.
Though I would eventually put my mind to use and make it somehow (of course never had any real concrete plan)
now fuck that.
I am on Food stamps, waiting for rent vouchers and on emergency assistance for money.
Fuck this gay earth.
I DIDN'T CHOOSE TO BE POOR
I am fortunate to be born and live in wealthy country (USA) my basic needs SHOULD BE GIVEN TO ME FOR FREE.
or would you rather I stab you in the neck out of despair?
>>25135167
Friendly reminder that Clinton will win the next presidential election.
>>25135167
They're just shills brother, don't worry about it.
I hate you fucking idiots
The anti sanders train started up so easily and readily, I mean it was always obvious there would be a few easy lines to dismiss him as there are with every figure, but jesus the anti-bernie ones are retarded
>hurr he jus thinks he can gib everything for free but it dun work like that!! dummy!!
>he's gonna tax us 90% and make us socialists!
fucking kill yourself
>>25135211
"im going to give everyone this, and that, were going to rebuild all the infrastructure and give free handouts to anyone who applies for it. i will do this all while lowering taxes, increasing minimum wage to discourage small business to open and thus drive the economy down."
of course that was not verbatim, but he is still a financial retard that would kill the country, money wise.
>>25139213
There's a reason Trump is supported overwhelmingly by uneducated, lower-class people who think that if Jorge goes away, they'll get a living wage for mopping floors, never realizing that Mopbot 3000 will replace Jorge in a matter of years and all this fighting will have been pointless.
>>25139252
> of course that was not verbatim, but he is still a financial retard that would kill the country, money wise.
If you're not quoting him verbatim, what's your source for this stuff?
>>25139213
>just graduated college
>have ~30K in student loan debt
>berniefags seriously think I should vote for free college even though I just missed out on Bernie's gravy train
Fuck that, I took out loans and other people can too. Free college fucks over everyone who had to take out loans, unless Bernie is willing to burst that bubble by forgiving all student loan debt.
I don't want college degrees to be looked at like high school degrees, something Sanders has said verbatim that he wants to happen.
>>25139290
What's the matter? Too dumb to get merit-based aid?
It's this kind of pulling up the ladder bullshit that will kill America faster than niggers, jews, and ISIS combined.
>>25139290
those young burniefags dont know how to vote. its going to be alright
>>25135667
>not rubio
JUST
>>25139289
listening to him in the fucking debate last night, dipshit.
almost everything i heard out of his mouth was im going to give these people this and those people that.
sanders is the liberal trump. he makes huge claims of things that arent feasible, and dumbfucks lap it up as if he is the savior.
>>25139317
No, I was too white to get any help plus my family earned just enough to not qualify for need-based aid without making enough to help pay for tuition.
All that is besides the point - if I have to pay back my loans, I'm never in a million years going to vote for free college. Besides, the way democrats implement things it would only be free for niggers, illegals and women anyways.
I'm not even American but even I know Hillary has already won the nomination. Do people not even know how superdelegates work?
>>25139049
Firstly, I understand how you didn't understand that one part. Please disregard that. I got a bit flustered. Very sorry about that.
I'm not saying that because you were born poor and whatnot it's your fault. Not in the least. It's your fault that you didn't fix it. My dad was full of cliche phrases. His favorite was, "It's not how many times you're knocked down, it's if you get back up." My family was put into economic ruin after a nasty divorce and general misfortune. Both of my parents became successful individuals on their own accord. I was bullied most of my life. I am still successful. I passed engineering school and work for great wages. I lived. I thrived. You just have to get up again. There is always another option, unless you're in prison or something.
Your final point is great. Will you sacrifice for the world?
Thank you for talking about this with me. Really makes me think.
>>25139213
where else would he get the money to implement such radical changes if not taxes? are you seriously that stupid to think taxes wouldnt skyrocket, and small business would essentially die off because of the increased minimum wage? what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>25139411
>This sucks and I hate it, but fck the next generation.
You're a real asshole, you know that?
>>25136743
i found him to be the most moderate of the three candidates. a lot of what he was saying the other night i liked for a second, then he said something almost immediately after that made me cringe. IMO, he is the best candidate the dems have though. too bad the sanders/clinton supporters are all mindless sheep who want free shit and will vastly outnumber the people who actually have at least one foot in reality.
>>25135211
He's vehemently anti-gun.
>>25139771
It's in my best interest for there to be barriers to getting a degree. More degrees for others cheapens mine because it floods the labor market with more people who are as qualified as me. If the next generation can't get scholarships and doesn't want to deal with the same bullshit I did (loans) then boo fucking hoo, they shouldn't go to college. I will never make another payment on my loans if free college becomes a thing, and I guarantee millions of other people with student loans would do the same thing.
Also, this is 4chan - you can say fuck all you want, newfriend.
>>25139543
> Firstly, I understand how you didn't understand that one part. Please disregard that. I got a bit flustered. Very sorry about that.
No worries. I get excited too, 4chan is fun.
> I'm not saying that because you were born poor and whatnot it's your fault. Not in the least. It's your fault that you didn't fix it. My dad was full of cliche phrases. His favorite was, "It's not how many times you're knocked down, it's if you get back up." My family was put into economic ruin after a nasty divorce and general misfortune. Both of my parents became successful individuals on their own accord. I was bullied most of my life. I am still successful. I passed engineering school and work for great wages. I lived. I thrived. You just have to get up again. There is always another option, unless you're in prison or something.
I'm an optimist, and so I tend to agree with you. I also became a successful engineer, but I had a lot of help from a lot of people. Even if it means a little less coming in each paycheck, I'd like to help out people who don't have a personal friend who can step and help them fix things. That's all I want - is a society where you can be broke without being dead, too.
>Your final point is great. Will you sacrifice for the world?
I really hope I can. I work for a startup that might change things for the better, and if I get rich I'm going to invest most of it in small business and micro loans. I'm also going to vote for poor old Bernie, not that it will matter much, even though literally any Republican candidate would make more sense for me and my (rich) family.
> Thank you for talking about this with me. Really makes me think.
No, thank you. Every time I'm about to give up on 4chan, I have a discussion like this and remember that there are good people out there, even if we don't always agree how to go about being good people.
>>25139889
Good. Your student loans were a crony-capitalism racket to begin with. Stop propping these parasites up and vote for free education.
>>25139952
It's been very nice talking to you sir. Live long and do good.
Sanders is a socialdemocrat you fucking retards. You faggots really need free tuition college.
I bet not even one of you know the fucking difference between a socialist and a socialdemocrat.
>>25138868
Lol sorry bro, but they've got such a 1% elitist thing going on over there it makes America seem absolutely communistic.
This died like Bernie will in the White House
>>25135594
But it's a very prominent trait in republicans nonetheless
>>25137716
>what are separation of powers
>>25139196
Maybe op is a shill as well...
ITT: future senile fox news commenters
>>25143560
maybe you're a shill. Maybe I'm a shill. Maybe we're all shills...
At least one thing is certain. Mankind has no control, even over its own free will...
>>25138868
You still think Russia is a communist state? Wow welcome to the fucking 80's retard.
Russia is a republic just like the US now and has been for like 30 fucking years.
Russia's communist state fell due to corruption and their shitty economy. This should show you why increasing government control doesn't work.
And its literally just liberals projecting, "Republicans just shout MUH SOCIALISM as their only argument lol" when in reality republicans are shouting that they don't more government control and liberals have yet to justify why more bureaucracy is a good thing.
Like the most recent debate. Bernie Sanders completely avoids the question to change the topic completely.
And of all things he changes the topic to, its the same nauseating shit he keeps fucking spewing over and over again. And yet he doesn't even justify how we should do this, just that we should. Its just an appeal to emotion.
>>25135292
Why not move to Israel? They run pretty much exactly like how /pol/ would run a country.
>>25143720
I forgot to provide the link if you can stand watching it.
Makes me cringe harder than the cringiest picture you have in your 4chan folder.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/19/bernie-sanders-on-profiling-call-911-if-somebody-is-loading-guns-and-ammo-into-a-house/
I'm get anxiety and panic attacks of the idea he might not.
>>25135343
>My liberal friends adore him. That alone lets me know that he is someone I would never want in office.
This, I don't keep up with politics so I asked some friends what's so great about Sanders and why they like him. Not a single one of them gave me a good answer.
>>25135167
I like Trump but I wouldn't mind le free stuff man desu. ANYONE BUT HILLARY
>>25135491
He has a legion of people who let him think for them. All the successful people on the other hand will be voting for Trump.
I am confident the Democratic Party won't want to put Bernie, someone who doesn't ACTUALLY represent the views of anyone in Congress, head to head with the Trumpmeister. It's much more likely that they'll go with Hillary and try to shoo in the "First FEMALE President." The "first" game worked last time, didn't it?
>>25135167
So you'd rather have someone else win, like Trump or Clinton? This is r9k I'm on, right? The board where collecting handouts is idealized? I can't think of a better president for that. Unless you like being cucked by corporations and super PACS. Literally everybody but Bernie has your interests so far down on their priority list it isn't even relevant. Know what I'm scared of? The election being given to whoever the oligarchy decides it should.
>there are people on this board who will literally vote for Donald Trump because "He speaks his mind!!!"
Might as well elect a kid with downs because he's always smiling and never lies to people.
>>25135211
You know how Obama has had problems passing his shit?
Imagine that problem with Sanders, but multiplied by a hundred. And then consider that very FEW of our presidential candidates are socialist, and that you'd now have a bunch of people reliant on socialist programs that would likely be fucked in the future because there is a high likelihood that a non-socialist would get elected.
That's not even going into his shitty policies. He literally appeals solely to poor people and the SJW type, and shills the middle class vs the rich narrative.
Sanders is literal shit.
>>25135167
>OP becomes unable to work due to anxiety
>if any other candidate becomes president he ends up homeless on the street
>if Bernie wins he is still provided for with Basic Income NEETbux
I fail to see the problem here. Bernie 2016!
>>25135685
Trump.
Hes not as good as Rand but Rand won't win so eh.
>>25137262
Haha yeah, your dad's MBA from Ohio State means that he has a grip on social issues and economics like nobody else in the country. A seasoned politician with nearly 50 years of active experience doesn't quite match that level of understanding.
Oh wait, yeah, that's right. There are people with postgrad degrees teaching community college classes to "urban" youths for a 50k salary.
Yeah so dismiss every experienced politician if they didn't do 2-4 additional years of college instead of immersing themselves in politics and relevant study.
Look at how much Obama has aged since he became president. If colonel sanders wins I fear for his life.
>>25137849
by raising taxes. a lot
>>25135167
it's not going to happen.that cunt hillary is giong to be voted in by the dnc and will be the next president - trump has no chance because RINO fags will just stay at home and not vote if he's in and libertarians won't vote for bush if he gets the nomination.
>>25135167
More critical than thinking of who is president.
Because the fact of the matter friendos is that, voting for president (as a civilian) doesn't mean SHIT.
You know who you should REALLY think about voting for?
YOUR SENATORS.
California reporting in.
These old bitches Feinstein and Boxer are about to get voted the fuck OUT.
>Support vaccine exemptions
>Support PATRIOT Act extension
>Support CISA
Are the oligarchs of America seriously pushing for an American revolution written in blood? I swear each year it feels like the stakes are higher, but I don't see what the benefits of chaos in America are.
>>25135167
butthurt classcuck detected
>>>/gulag/
>>25136011
>free
you're right, nothing is free
we'll pay for it with the blood of the rich
an untapped fuel source
>>25137553
sucking billionaire dick is pretty cuck tbqh
>people think their vote counts
This country is owned by bankers.
>>25146488
bernie will destroy the bankers m8
>>25136682
>>25136753
>what the fuck is fiat currency?
It's literally just paper with good intentions behind it
>>25136047
Communism is not socialism. Socialism as we know it is capitalism with more spending on social programs. If politics were sports, socialism would be any major team sport, where independent teams all follow the same rules and are otherwise free to do what they want, while communism would be the WWE, where everybody works for the same boss under a calculated and orchestrated plan.
>>25136808
"National Socialism" was not socialism. It was Fascism, which in the political spectrum is on the right side of Capitalism, while Socialism is on the left of it. Actual Socialists were rounded up and "deported" by the Nazis along with other "undesirables." "National Socialism" was just a propaganda name chosen by Hitler and his cronies to get people to buy into the party.
>>25146560
Nah. Our last hope died with Kennedy. After Nixon got elected it has been going down hill from there with the drug war, the middle east war and the war on terror.
>>25146629
>"National Socialism" was just a propaganda name chosen by Hitler and his cronies to get people to buy into the party.
this desu
