ZZZZAP! Uh oh... zzzZZZZAP! ZZZZAP!!! What could be happening? ZZZAP! ZAP! ZAP!
Looks like you forgot to take your SSRI, anon. ZZZAP! Better take it now if you want to feel happy. ZZZZZZZZZAP! Do what Dr. Sheckle says, remember that he only wants the best for you. ZZZZAP!!!
The way people talk about anti-depressants on this site make me think that in 50 years they're going to thought of as we think of bloodletting today.
Never took zoloft which is surprising
Currently only on Xanax for anxiety and seroquil as a sleep aid. When I'm in my "happy"stage I tend to stop taking any anti depressants, at least try to feel normal
>>25077267
Yep.
Like how bloodletting didn't work all of the time, but was sometimes a useful procedure.
>high blood pressure
Just sayin'.
Started taking Celexa yesterday. What am I in for?
>>25077267
Keep in mind that you're dealing with a bunch of self diagnosed shutins who are incapable of moderation and possess zero medical knowledge. They take them on a whim.
>>25077296
ZZZZZAP! ZZZAP! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAP! What's that? ZZZAP! You wanted to jerk off today? It really hurts? ZZZZZZZZAP! ZZZAP! That's too bad, anon. Maybe after Dr. Sheckle makes you all better you can ZZZZZAP! get some relief. ZZZZZZZAP! I'm sure the SSRI will start working eventually. ZAP! ZAP! ZAP!
>>25077302
SSRIs are clinically indistinguishable from placebos in all studies.
>>25077267
Nah they're just stupid crybabies
>>25077296
don't listen to OP, the zaps only happen if you come off them fast.
I was on citalo (celexa), didn't work to me, but it wasn't negative
>>25077246
>on 150 Sert as anxiety
>Makes me depressed but don't wanna go on any different SSRIs
>Atleast para/schizo has calmed down
>>25077366
Hey, I'm on Sert
Did you get massive sleep issues when you started?
>>25077246
>>25077323
>zzzap zap
Explain
>>25077382
Brain zaps - they're a very weird withdrawal effect of SSRI antidepressants
>>25077324
That's a valid point. I'm not defending this kind of medication, I'm just saying expecting any sort of coherent results from robots as your test group is like expecting the sun to produce ice.
>>25077395
>Anxiety head and brain zaps anxiety symptom description: It feels as if your head, brain, or both have experienced a sudden shake, vibration, tremor, jolt, electric shock, or zap. Some people describe the head and brain zaps symptoms as if the brain has been suddenly jolted by electricity or strong electric charge
Jesus Christ. And I thought Exploding Head Syndrome was some scary shit.
>>25077350
This
I've been on and off ssri's since I was 16, never really had this issue
>>25077421
it's bloody weird.
When I came off citalopram I got them, when I looked in a certain direction, they weren't painful, just weird.
>>25077379
Was insomniac before hand, got told I can't have any more sleeping pills as "addictive personality", i'm actually on about 34 hours of no sleep at the moment, I sleep about 3-4 times a week, but it was like this before Sert, best of luck to you anon
>>25077288
Bloodletting is still the standard treatment for iron poisoning.
>>25077498
Sleeping pills are terrible for your brain and they're just a temporary solution, you get tolerance for them quickly and they stop working. The studies show you need to do therapy for long-lasting relief. There are melatonin agonists that you can be put on too, they're non-addictive, non-abuseable, and tolerance doesn't develop.
>>25077557
Yeah i've been on a few, the main thing I wonder is what people think about before they fall asleep, if I go to bed then I just constantly think of real life events or my degree, and then can't sleep. Also have to have a fan/white noise if I do try to sleep.
Also suffering from rare liver disease which means a lot of meds got changed recently, the bump up to Sert 150 hit me like a truck desu, tried to commit sudoku. But hey, atleast my body will kill me soon enough.
doc wants me weened off kpin and upped to 200mg sert fuck me
>About to be put on anti-depressants
Time to join the ride
>tfw want therapy but don't want meds
I really just want someone real to talk to
I'd rather not pay for that if I don't have to
>>25077557
I hate to add more problems for people to worry about, but it also trashes your gal bladder. Most of you probably won't have one if you make it to old age.
>>25077649
don't put that shit into your body anon
I wish I could go back to being myself, but something changed on sertaline
>>25077650
You'll have to convince your therapist that you don't have a chemical imbalance but you're still in a situation where you feel awful. Shouldn't be too hard, just get a therapist while saying you have some sort of moral principle against them.
>>25077650
Don't wanna beat you while ya down, but therapy is a pile of shit, it's some guy/girl getting paid to pretend they care, you have to be so careful what you say as if they think you are suicidal then they tell family/doctors and it's put on records. Accidentally said I heard voices then had to spaghetti my way out of it saying it actually was a voice in the end.
No hope bois
>>25077685
Fuck that, if suicide is my other choice I'm willing to hop on the ride
I've been off an on different anti-depressants for like 2 years. I've never stayed on one for more than 4 months, I've been on 6 or 7 different ones.
I always get to a point where I just can't handle how numb they make me feel. It makes life feel even less worth living.
>>25077685
>>25077705
On sert 150 as we speak, it's better than others, atleast for me it was, it helped with anxiety/paranoia/schizo, but it made me extra depressed, if you are already depressed your not meant to go above 50. But if waking up sad I didn't die is the price I pay to fix the others then it's worth (semi)
>>25077705
the closesrt I was to suicide was when they put me up to 200mg
almost jumprd infront of a train leacving college
>>25077650
If you go to a uni, they usually have a counseling center with free therapists. Mine has a psychiatrist too who helps me with my medication.
Otherwise there might be affordable options if you live in the city, maybe even free if you're lucky. I've just heard of a few, I don't know how to search for them or anything.
Therapy helps a lot though, it can give you more control over your life. My therapist helps me find resources to cope with my poverty. He also helps me make plans for my life and set goals for myself, which is really important in any mental illness. You don't have to take any meds if you don't want to, it's completely up to you. Therapists usually don't prescribe anything anyways. Good luck, anon.
>>25077630
also i've made a few suicide attempts on higher doses of anti depressants and the only therapist i've been compatible with in over a decade of treatment left the clinic
i'm considering just going back on heroin until i fizz out
> get prescribed zoloft
> read side effects online
> learn about withdrawals
> hmmmm.jpg
> look into alternatives
> st.johns wort
> take that shit
> feel much better after 1 day
combined it with 5htp (prob a bad idea) yesterday and felt amazing. been walking around today (only 1 tablet st.johns) with my head held high, no anxious thoughts, confident/focused/calm, just excited to live again. i'll be taking 1-2 tablets a day now.
legit the best feel iv had in ages - hope
>>25077891
* i should note that i stopped watching porn, and try to exercise every day for a natural serotonin boost. but i really think the pills did all the work here
SSRIs are helpful and genuinely needed for some people.
The average failed normalfag that browses /r9k/ doesn't have the hardcore genetic fuckups that would require them to take anti-depressants for any real reason past lack of willpower.
>>25077891
St. John's Wort is amazing, it's much better than SSRIs. Doesn't stop you from being able to jerk off, doesn't have the constant sweating, very little side effects and there's no withdrawal from what I can tell.
Tianeptine is pretty good too, works in a different way from any other anti-depressants. It can get you high at large enough doses too, because it's got opiate activity.
>>25077936
iv got 5htp and zoloft as well. i'll probably run a few weeks on each to compare, but this shit is damn good after just 1 day. im pretty amazed some herbal shit actually has this effect, but thats probably quite ignorant... from what i understand it is an SSRI, just natural not synthetic. i don't really understand why big pharma didn't just copyright this shit and sell it themselves?
i promised myself i wouldn't commit suicide and for the past several years have spent every moment of my life trying to subvert unbearable and crippling psychosomatic pain. i can only justify it by hating myself. i want to kill myself but i promised i wouldn't. i think it's going to end with a second existential crisis. or that's the only way i see out at least. otherwise i'm going to rot stagnantly for the remainder of my time living
>>25077918
lol str8 up
20mg lexapro and i am a-ok
Brain zaps aren't even that bad. Stop being a bitch.
>tfw Iktf bro
>>25077246
Between obese bitches and cunts on anti-psychotics it really lowers the dating pool
>>25077421
i have this it is literally hell
AD's never worked for my depression--just anxiety. Most people on them are normies who don't have the clinical disorder for both depression and anxiety. Instead, they have an adjustment disorder. Patients with adjustment disorder do not benefit from AD's. Thats why studies are so fucking flawed--tey include them into the studies.
>>25077324
Are you from the past?
Zoloft made me feel like an emotionless zombie, ativan/lorazapham didn't do the trick, they just stuck me on vallium. Anyone have any experience with it?
Tfw just wanted xanax because everyone seems to talk about it so it must be special
I didn't learn my lesson the first time and started taking pills again 2 months ago, I quit cold turkey a week ago and I've been dealing with the zaps. The good news is my sex drive is back to normal and I can jerk off just fine.
>>25077302
How would they get prescriptions for SSRI in the first place if they were self diagnosed ? Think sometimes
>>25079352
You've never been to a doctor in your life, have you?
>>25079320
Xanax has an extremely short half-life. It's kind of the benzo to take if you need action right away and quickly for something like a panic attack. Valium and Klonopin are used if you need a long, steady dose. Those two have long half-lives
>>25079352
Getting prescibed an SSRI is easy as shit. All you have to do is say you are depressed. BAM, SCRIPT FOR SSRI.
>>25079368
Yeah that's what I was told, that and it's a minor muscle relaxant
Just wondering if anyone has had any previous experience with vallium since everyone I talked to said to get off zoloft asap and it was shite
>>25079365
>>25079377
In my country only psychiatrist can prescribe them and she diagnosed me for almost an hour.
>>25077246
>risking permanent dick failure
>risking dependence due brain zaps
Resist the shilling. Try SRRIs LAST, not FIRST.
Wellbutrin and Mirtazapine have an equal chance of working and are far less shit. Fuck SSRI
I am on it. Very far from happy
about St. john's wort: should I get it in pills or a liquid extract?
>>25077279
Why didn't you just drink in social settings and take valerian with some camomile.
Redpill me on ST Worts
1st side
>"Im 50 year old woman and a hippie fuckhead, blah blah government, I use natural medicine since its not dangerous, I also hold Chakra seminars, and sell Magic Crystal imbued with secret chakra for only 40 dollars each
2nd side
>"Hello I'm a scientiest and possible corporate shill, St worts show no positive or negative signs according to our studies.
3rd
>"We are not really selling genuine ST Worts, but we still want your money goyim"
OMG i dont know who to believe, and where to buy it from.
>>25077444
Exactly this. Thank god they're over, but holy shit they lasted like 2 months for me.
Antidepressants are not a cure. At best they are a little booster, like a mental energy drink, to get you to start sorting out the shit in your life.
The majority of depressions are a result of social and pyschological shitstorms. Sure there is a genetic element that can increase your vulnerability to falling down the rabbit hole of shit but that does not remove the element of personal responsibility.
From my experience working in mental health care, depressions and low moods amongst the demographic that are likely to visit 4chan are the results of social isolation, poor ability to build positive social relationships and a narrow ranged of personal interests.
Simple things really, things that are often ignored and put down to more "deep" existential problems. In reality I think the existential bullshit is mostly secondary rationalisations for not having basic human needs met. You just have to be honest with yourself, start recognise your bad habits and innate cognitive biases and put some work into rebuilding your character. Its not easy and it takes work but that's the first step to pulling yourself out of the shitheap.
>>25077246
rolling for 139
>>25079726
It's okay.
I like brahmi and holy basil a lot more, though.
>>25080139
DDAAAAAMMMNN SON
My 11 years old brother takes Sertraline. I sometimes think about stealing one of his pills to know how it feels like. To find out if it's really as fucked up as I think to dope a kid who doesn't even have pubes.
>>25080076
This was actually pretty insightful
>>25080076
Spot on. If I really think about why I'm unhappy it always boils down to basic needs.
Not eating enough/healthy enough food
Not getting enough sleep
Smoking too much weed
Not exercising
Spending too much time on the computer instead of hobbies
Self neglect due to escapism, and escapism as a result of self neglect and feeling self conscious about it.
>Are you a monkey or a man-child?
>>25080321
Sert isn't too fucked up - it makes me very tired and unable to sleep, but it's not horrible
Zoloft is good stuff 2bh
>>25080442
My bro also takes sleeping pills. I'm a robot so I don't really care much about him, it just makes me upset that people think giving drugs to kids is somehow acceptable and normal. Must be a jewish conspiracy or something.
>These niggas don't even know about Phenibut
>>25080574
Shit son I'm gonna take some right now.
Powder form, gonna make some tea and feel the anxiety fleet away and let those happy good times roll in.
>>25077421
It's not painful, just a really odd and disorienting sensation
>>25080388
Yeah dude, basic nutrition and exercise are so important for normal brain function.
For example, vitamin D. So many westerners are vitamin d deficient. Especially those that don't spend much time outside (ring any bells). That shit regulates serotonin synthesis (the same chemical SSRIs work to increase).
>>25080139
checkeroni
The fuck am I even reading? is OP having some kind of mental episode?
the worst part of SSRIs was not being able to fap, that fucking sucked so bad.
at least I haven't gotten any zaps for about five years.
>>25077685
this. I know something changed after I was put on the pills, but I can't remember what my old self was like anymore.
>>25081446
OP is shitposting by relating to anti-depressant side effects where if you stop using them the wrong way you'll forever have these freaky-ass ZAP sensations in your head.
>>25080321
Taking one pill wont do anything. Its something that has to build up in your system to have any effect.
Brain zaps are real but they dont hurt like an electric shock. Its just a weird sensation occurring every so often. The real withdrawl is dark, unshakable, horrible depression.
>>25079550
>social settings
>>25079726
its legit. i read online that 'Nature's Way Perika' is the best brand. but i just walked into holland and barrett (uk health food store) and bought their brand.
read info online m8. you shouldn't be taking mind altering drugs without reading about them first anyway
>>25077324
Mind showing us some sources?
I took SSRIs twice: two different doses of the same medication in the span of maybe a year. Began with a 'C' if anyone is familiar with its effects.
Anyway, on 2mg, the very next morning I felt the intended effects, and more: better mood, felt WIDE awake (I never feel well-rested), vision seemed somehow clearer, like I'd put on glasses, and overall cognitive abilities were enhanced.
I'm betting on placebo because they claim it takes about 6 weeks to feel the effects, but I know I felt better, thinking I wouldn't.
But after a week I started getting those fucking zaps and said, "This can't be fucking good for me," and stopped. Fast-forward 6 months, taking them at 40mg (the max dose, wtf)
ZZZZZAP, day one. Fuck no. Threw them away.
Are SSRI being "happy pills" a meme? The only thing they did for me is to make me tired and I had to piss a lot.
Do they really change the personality for some people?
>>25082656
SSRI's are a joke
There's very little evidence for the clinical efficacy, and there's very little evidence that the theory behind their mechanism of action's effect on mood is valid.
serotonin is not the 'feel good chemical' (dopamine arguably fits that title) that drug companies make it out to be, the physiology of the psychology of happiness is much more complicated than the action of the serotonin receptors.
The current theory being explored in the pathology of depression is decreased hippocampal growth, which is remedied by drugs that can increase neural plasticity, you may have heard of the use of ketamine as an antidepressant, this is why.
another example of this can be seen in the chemical 'tianeptine', it does a couple things; first it does the exact opposite of what SSRI's do, it is a serotonin reuptake enhancer, as opposed to an inhibitor. second it has an effect on the glutamate receptors, AMPA and NDMA, this is believed to be implicated in its positive effect on neural plasticity, much like ketamine. third it's an agonist of the mu-opioid receptor, activation of mu-opiod receptors leads to a signal cascade that increases dopamine and GABA levels in the brain. This chemical has been shown to be more effective than traditional SSRI antidepressants and works in the exact opposite manner.
tl;dr don't take ssris, they're a waste of time
>>25083013
what about amphetamines and such? I'm on bupropion which isn't meth, but is structurally similar to amphetamines. it works better than an SSRI ever did.
>>25077279
>xanax
xanax should never ever be taken long term. if you ever stop taking it now, you will have hallucinations and horrible withdrawals
>>25083121
I've been on tons of ssris and bupropion is the best thing I've ever taken. It makes me feel miles better than any other meds I've been on. Only thing is I have to take an anti anxiety med with it or else I have hourly panic attacks
>>25082609
Not the anon you quoted, but Irving Kirsch meta analyzed data which basically showed that anti-depressants were totally ineffectual.
>>25083174
yeah, when I was first getting on it and getting to the right dose I would get those but since I found the right level (450 mg/day kek) I've been fine.
alcohol helps, too.
there was some guy here who claimed he cured his AvPD with a hard MXE binge which almost killed him
its some good stuff
>>25083268
MXE is so magical, I'm convinced it can heal all wounds
I'm waiting to get some money so I can order some from Europe
>>25083121
bupropion may be a sub'd phenethylamine, but that doesn't mean its effects are going to be similar to amphetamines
that being said it is a potent norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, as well as a minor dopamine reuptake inhibitor. The reason it doesn't give the same 'high' as other sub'd phenethylamines is because it has a low affinity for dopamine reuptake inhibition and does not effect release of catecholamines (dopamine, epinephrine, norepinephrine), like amphetamines do. Its dopaminergic activity is more comparable to sertraline than it is to typical dopamine reuptake inhibitors like ritalin.
In theory, things like ritalin or amphetamine could be potent antidepressants due to their dopaminergic activity, but they aren't very sustainable, and they lead to rapid tolerance and dependence. Hopefully the research on brain plasticity is conclusive and we can finally get sustainable treatments for depression.
I would say buproprion is probably more effective than SSRI's, but it still has a very small benefit over placebo in clinical trials
>>25083268
this effect is most likely shared with ketamine, and is currently being studied as a treatment for depression, this is the real deal and most likely the precursor to the next wave of antidepressants
modulation of the glutamate receptors, especially antoginzation of NDMA receptors is linked to increased neural plasticity and thus can potentially help rebuild underdeveloped areas of the brain, most notably the hippocampus.
unfortunately, sustained ketamine use has been associated with neurotoxicity, mxe probably has similar problems, so better medications will have to be made for this effect to be stable in a larger population (ketamine antidepressant effects seem to last only a couple weeks after administration)
Zoloft was my first anti depressant. It didn't work and gave me several side effects. After trying several others i wound up on cymbalta, which does work well for me with minimal side effects.
>>25084390
>sustained ketamine use has been associated with neurotoxicity
senpai, you do ket like once or twice a month to sub for MDMA on a night out when you're with the lads.
Going for the full effect is neat, but you really don't need to do that more than once every six months or so.
My doctor gave me this, I took it for 3 days. Side effects were not feeling hungry at all, and farting all the time. I haven't had an orgasm since then either. I'm female btw
>>25077246
oh shit, i started taking zoloft a week ago
what should i expect?
iktf brainzaps suck
>>25077296
The first month you will feel lots of mood swings and irritability, chemical castration after 2 months, loss of emotional empathy after 3. If you taper off or stop cold turkey, you will experience brain zaps and mood swings.
>>25084232
>>25084390
Quality posts
>>25080076
>are the results of social isolation, poor ability to build positive social relationships and a narrow ranged of personal interests
so autism, in other words?
what is ZZZAAPPP
>>25077279
>seroquel
>"sleep aid"
Fess up faM. Is it bipolar or schizo?
Zoloft works well for my OCD though, its almost miraculous.
I used to not be able to go to bed because i had to keep locking and unlocking my bedroom door and I used to think if I did it too few times something bad was going to happen.
>>25079223
stay on da path brudda
>>25087439
It's a onomatopoeia.
If you go off certain antidepressants cold turkey or continually forget your dosage, you get what feel like little shocks throughout your nervous system.
>tfw when you just want to go back to how you felt before taking zoloft
>tfw when you know you never will
JUST
>>25077267
Except bloodletting actually works for certain conditions. I have haemochromatosis and have to get blood let once a month
>>25079726
Pharmafag here. Here's a bit from the most reputable database in the world on herbal supplements. Those numbers are citations of research that the claims are based off.
Keep in mind though that St. John's Wort also fucks with the cytochromes in your liver so make sure you speak with a physician or pharmacist before taking it if you're on any other meds.
>>25077650
My psychiatrist attempted to get me on SSRIs but after explaining to her how they fucked my brain up, she finally let it go and now she just acts as a therapist; just someone to talk to.
>>25087462
I had a friend who took that shit for his bipolar disorder and he gave me a piece of one and it knocked my ass out
>>25080076
True but just because I know that doesn't mean I can develop the skills necessary to widen my range of interests and meet people from scratch.
>>25077267
Pretty much, their effect is barely above placebo and they have horrible hilariously counterproductive side effects that sometimes remains for months and even years. Even today it's not fully understood how they work (and neither is "depression" even remotely understood).
>>25087738
pharmafag, what do you suggest as a supplement to treat brain-fog and general loss of mental focus and acuity?
I'm currently taking B-12 to see how it works, and I might try adding fish-oil in the mix
>>25077918
They're useful in the worse cases, problem is doctors throw them around like candy. I'm pretty sure they overall do more damage than healing.
>>25079508
This guy knows exactly what's up, SSRI/SNRI should be a last resort, not the first tool. Also +1 on wellbutrin/voxra/bupropion.
>>25077685
I'm experiencing something similar after trying escitalopram/lexapro/cipralex and venlafaxine, it's impossible to know since you cannot compare but i feel like something is "off", like it damaged my motivational and reward systems. Might just be because i'm even more depressed now but i will never know...
>>25082609
Nice anecdotes m8. Btw you could start by reading up on the basics on wikipedia.
>>25077267
i fucking love bloodletting dude, i wanna bleed out
>>25083013
This post should be posted in every single thread on the matter.
>>25083013
Tianeptine has not been shown to be more clinically effective, it just has less side effects.
>>25083121
Bupropion would be pretty good if it weren't for the almost guaranteed increase in anxiety in any individual with such issues. Still a much better alternative than the serotonin garbage though in most cases.
>>25084560
What kind of anti-depressant?
>>25088363
Multivitamins do wonders
They can help cover things that you're missing
>>25084560
side effects are the same. went through a blast of productivity but now im just constantly tired
>>25077421
coming off of cymbalta and lexapro did it to me
It is so awful. You are literally disabled for the duration of your withdrawal, which can be a significant amount of time. If you've ever had laughing gas at the dentist and had the weird spinal shivers while on it, it's like that but it lasts all day/night. it wakes you up. You have massive brain fogs and blackouts where you forget where you are or what you're doing.
Never quit cold turkey.
It's really important to find another doctor who will help you wean off of it slowly if your doctor doesn't want to help you quit.
You don't want to be responsible for the shitty life decisions you made during withdrawal if at all possible. If your doctor is a pill pusher, drop him/her. There are plenty of people out there who will actually help you reach your goals in terms of your health and let you decide what you want.
>>25091293
>There are plenty of people out there who will actually help you reach your goals in terms of your health and let you decide what you want
I want to believe this.
>>25091350
It is true, but it is hard to find a doctor that is a good match for you or isn't a nutcase.
>>25077444
Same here. Came off cold turkey.
I still can't feel guilt or 'wrong' since. I know what is wrong and what would make guilt since those emotions worked when I was young and learning but I can't feel them.
>>25077324
That's untrue, though it's true that they were just BARELY more effective than a placebo in the majority of studies.
SSRIs are a vile band-aid; a band-aid is great in some situations, but putting it on a chest after a heart attack isn't going to do shit. The entire pharma industry is disgusting beyond words.
>>25077323
Fuck those brainzaps. Those brain shocks are weird as fuck and unpleasant. Getting off SSRIs makes your original reasons for getting on SSRIs in the first place much worse. I get so fucking angry when I'm off them that I I have to restrain myself from assaulting people, or screaming, or just throwing things.
They're vile, evil bullshit, but I'd be lying if I said they didn't help me out. Lot less intrusive thoughts, less anxiety and sadness, etc. They're just given out too easily, and with so little research or expertise on the part of providers.
Zoloft is actually shown to be effective on OCD; more so than most things. Though I haven't been diagnosed (which means fuck-all; we live in the age of barbaric ritualism when it comes to mental illnesses), I'm confident that my self-diagnosis is entirely valid, given that I suffer from every symptom of OCD there is and have since my age was in the single digits.
Aside from the withdrawals I get when I don't have them, which is what upsets me the most (fucking cunts giving away physically addictive pills like they're candy because you fill out a survey pointing out you're sad), they actually DO help in my case, and have let me enjoy life a lot more than I did before.
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>>25091559
Oh, but I also have ED at the age of 25, and it probably won't ever go away. On the bright side, somehow, it takes longer to cum which makes jerking off a lot more enjoyable and satisfying, though my cum just sort of leaks out instead of squirting, and my dick can never get as hard as my Full Mast Of The Past did.
I was on the SNRI Duloxetine (Cymbalta) for several months. While it only worked to a certain degree for me, I can say that brain zaps really aren't that bad. They are a bit unsettling the first time you experience them, but they do not last long and should not scare you away from antidepressants. That said, I am now on a tricyclic antidepressant and have had much better results on it.
>>25077246
I'm on citalopram. Only persistent negative side effect is it makes me sleepy and sometimes makes it hard for me to cum. Never had "zaps" or whatever.
>>25077421
I have exploding head syndrome. It doesn't happen all the time, but I'll describe my experiences.
Imagine waking up to a REALLY loud 8-bit like noise with that nails on chalkboard feeling. Also, if I'm half awake sometimes I'll have mini sound explosions every few seconds, and regular sounds are even louder, but this usually happens when I am falling asleep in class.
Cycling piracetam (take 1 week, then stop next week, then start again) is an incredible antidepressant in my experience. Take 800-2000mg a day with some choline bitartrate.
There was a time in my life where I was REALLY anxious and got put on an SSRI. I hated it. Then after a few months of it, I took Piracetam since I read its okay to take it with an SSRI...then I felt BETTER THAN I HAD IN MONTHS.
FUCK SSRIS. Yes, they will bottom of the "lower threshold" of your feelings so that you can't be super sad or anxious, but they also cut off the upper end of your emotions, so you can never be super happy.
>>25077296
ED & asexuality
>>25087738
I'm not clinically depressed, but I'd love to know if these can help with motivation issues. Also is it safe to take these with Finasteride? Don't wanna lose my hair in the process of becoming a more productive member of society.
Oh, and how about treating ADD naturally? Mine flares up every once in a while and its incredibly frustrating because I genuinely want to get shit done. Can't even focus on menial tasks that don't require the use of my brain when I'm having an "attack".
>>25091845
>>25077421
Happy mine went away. They weren't terrible, but they definitely confused me as a kid.
>>25091559
I have ocd and bipolar disorder. sertraline 50mg did help me and i wouldnt be alive today without it. my thoughts used to loop over and over 3 times a second but it slowed it down to once every 30 seconds or so and stayed that way till this day. i went off it cold turkey after a bad experience with akathisia that may have been from amisulpride, i dunno. it did change me but it helped me cope.
>>25088253
>Even today it's not fully understood how they work (and neither is "depression" even remotely understood).
This is actually not true. There's lots of evidence suggesting that the true mechanism of action is not necessarily serotonin modulation, but an increase in neurogenesis (especially in the hippocampal & parahippocampal regions) that has the antidepressant effect.
There are a few theories on why depression manifests itself in animals, but these are more speculative, as is the field of evolutionary psychology as a whole.
Lots of information out there if you cared to look.
Wellbutrin works. Nothing works for anxiety though. I've been looking for like 15 years now the closest thing I ever had was xanax, but it turns me into an Alzheimer's patient when I take it. Couldn't remember shit, I actually lost my car and had to have my parents drive all around town, because I got out of the car to walk somewhere and totally forgot where I parked.
>>25077246
Zoloft is literally poison
Fuck the pharmajews that invented it
Shit have me 2 aneurysms and permanent nerve damage
Not shilling, but if you have to take any antidepressant, try wellbutrin
Shit is so cash
>Dick works amazingly well
Boners are rare with SSRIs
>Can cum
I would fap for HOURS and not cum on Zoloft
>Less appetite so I eat less, save money, lose weight
Zoloft made me gain like 30 pounds and I had constant cravings
>no withdrawal effects
No zaps or any weird shit
Only thing I should mention is that it gives you REALLY vivid and fucked up dreams.
Not necessarily nightmares, and I can of enjoy them. I live entire lives and go on amazing adventures with friends, strangers, creatures, and even get to fug some qt's.
And if you start lucid dreaming, it's like 1000x better
You can get it from a 2 hour nap or a 10 hour snooze
>>25077421
Imagine walking down the street, and you suddenly feel this slow buzzing in your head, it speeds up and zaps your brain.
You lose your balance and try not to fall.
You don't remember where you are.
You're suddenly really nauseous.
This happens every 5 minutes
