Is there any point to being a good person?
If you have latent homosexuality and need to direct it somewhere.
A real man doesn't look up to anyone for acceptance.
He acts in accordance to what he wants.
>>24976599
Yes, nigga, so you can die in peace.
Building up favor to manipulate people
>>24976599
What is a good person?
Good doesn't exist
The only thing that can seperate you from others is your will, and what you achieve with it.
Not being a total dick feels good.
>>24976599
Yes, sociopath boss needs a good honest wagey
>>24976637
>die in peace.
what does that even mean
>>24976658
God, you're a faggot but you're entirely correct.
Op, good/bad, evil etc are subjective things. However, if your someone who consciously chooses to go against what your society deems as "good," eventually they'll get tired of putting up with your shit and you'll be marginalized, if not completely disregarded.
But, if you're incredibly wealthy or powerful or someone of high status, you can be an asshole and not suffer the repercussions most average people would have to face. Donald Trump could literally go on tv right now and say, "All niggers need to be euthanized." and it wouldn't that great of an impact on his life given how ridiculously wealthy and influential he is.
It's best for the common person to be good or at least cooperative to the best of their ability so they can live without hindering their own advancement or happiness.
Point in being a good person? Of course, everybody should be a good person.
Your problem is youve confused 'good person' with 'door matt'. Be a good person, Dont be a door matt
>>24976599
you can feel righteous indignation rather than rage when someone fucks you over.
>>24976791
no difference between a good person and a door mat.
Being good is usually about sacrificing your resources (or time) for others.
>>24976650
Wrong. To manipulate people you need to be alpha and intimidating on some level, otherwise being a good person will just make people see you as a door mat and they'll never return those favors when you really need them
Just be a sociopath and don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself, it's the most profitable way.
>>24976920
Manipulation can happen in a number of ways.
Women generally aren't seen as intimidating but they are the most manipulative creatures on the planet, next to babies. And I don't mean that in a derogatory sense.
Manipulation isn't solely limited to being physically intimidating.
>>24976942
>Just change your entire neurophysiology!
You can't just magically become a sociopath, you idiot.
>>24976764
How am I faggot if I'm right
>>24976976
Just wanted to call you a faggot, love.
>>24976920
I got my parents nearly divorced and talked my way out of dozens of fights with Chads even though I'm a pathetic manlet. Now in the process of taking my uncle's inheritance.
If you think you have to be X to manipulate people you aren't doing it right.
>>24976955
As a sociopath, I feel lucky
But I'm primarily a sociopath because of a head injury sustained in childhood
the only "point" that i can ascertain is having a completely guilt free conscience.
good people have a purity about them.
>>24976599
Ultimately? No. Nobody in today's world matters particularly much. Most of can't name more than a handful of historical emperors and kings, dead celebrities, or world-famous athletes. Names from before the time of Greece and Rome are, for the most part, forgotten. We know Alexander the Great, Jesus, Plato, Socrates, and Caesar, but will the generation of the year 3000 or 4000? Will our species even survive for that long? I suppose we likely will, but none but the most brutal or powerful or saintly among us will have left an impact that is noticeable.
Even then, this entire planet will, at some distant point in time, cease to exist in its entirety. It will be consumed by the sun or disappear as a tiny dot among a million others. And frankly, from the vantage point of the universe, that's all we are - a small, isolated anomaly that can ponder the ramifications of its own trappings but do little to alter them.
Sucks, huh?
Personally, I think that we can find some worth in doing good. Improving the lives of others lets us make an appreciable albeit minuscule difference to those around us. If life is valuable and consciousness is as well on account of its rarity, it seems alright to make an effort to better the circumstances of our fellow, self-aware beings. We might not matter in the slightest, and we may not be remembered for more than a handful of generations, but perhaps we can gather some semblance of purpose from contributing to the joy or happiness or comfort of our fellow humans.
Of course, there's no reason as to why consciousness must be regarded as valuable. On the whole, however, altruism and "goodness" benefits the species and, when practiced collectively, allows us to continue thriving and existing into the future.
sleeping well and living a good long life healthily, surrounded with ppl you can trust
yea there is
ppl forget easily they wont always be young and every act of violence (physical or emotional) will result in similar reaction
but its not popular nowadays
>>24977059
>muh existentialism
I like how you added "sucks huh?" like you're discussing something new and enlightening.
>>24976713
It's like the old song Satisfied Mind. At least my idea of it. A lot of people have done that one you can look it up. Willie did it too.
>>24977092
the sucks huh was completely unnecessary and reddit. Honestly behavior like this needs to be forcibly eradicated. It shouldn't exist.
>>24977092
God, I fucking love 4chan. This made me kek entirely too much.
You took the time to read his post and the only thing you got out of that was "None of this is new to me, so I'm going to insult him."
>>24977092
I know it's not new or enlightening, bruh. In the same vein, I've been around here long enough to enjoy typing posts for the sake of putting my thoughts into words rather than teaching life lessons to strangers. If you care, you care; if you don't and it's nothing new, then that's fine too.
>>24976713
see, if you're going die and you haven't accomplished anything, you were miserable the whole time, and everyone mistakenly hates you, at least you would be able to say that you tried to be a good guy, even if that doesn't count for anything
>>24977188
if you aren't a condescending prick, you aren't adhering to the board culture normie scum
>>24976658
You don't have to achieve anything to be separated from others you just have to be a dick and not leave your room. Waste of a will t b h
>>24977188
It's a pretty general trend and an unoriginal statement. A lot of people seem to think they're the only ones who "get it" and that anyone who types out an idea that doesn't relate to frog memes truly thinks they're the first person to have ever thought it.
>>24976863
what if you dedicate your life to fighting bad guys? then you are a good guy but can still be assertive
>>24976599
Only if you look better than a 6/10
>>24976633
>If you have latent homosexuality and need to direct it somewhere.
that's a very random thing to bring up out of nowhere, where did that come from? are you gay trying to come to terms with it or what?
>>24976943
>>24977028
True. Both in both of these cases the manipulator was valuable. Whether it was pussy or being the kid caught in a divorce these people had some inherent value that they could use to get what they want. Just being nice though and doing favors gets you shit
>>24977266
But he wasn't addressing you, he was addressing Op, unless you are Op.
Why not simply ignore something that's irrelevant to you instead of taking the time to be mean to someone? That information may seem common place to you, but there are others who may not have been exposed to or seriously considered such ideals.
>>24977188
>None of this is new to me, so I'm going to insult him
His post was verbose when all he had to say was "nothing matters, morals are objective, so do what you want." His over explanations were patronizing and edging into euphoric levels.
He deserved to be insulted and shamed.
>>24976599
Define 'point'.
>>24976599
>finding someone who is also good
if you are bad people who are good are gonna distance themselves from you
>>24977392
People lie to strangers all the time. You don't have to have any inherent value to someone in order to manipulate them.
I mean, scam artists and magicians literally make a living off of manipulating others and capitalizing on their naivety. If you have a decent understanding of human psychology, you can manipulate someone.
>>24977405
I'm not the guy who was being a dick. My comment was actually criticizing him. I see those "LOL you think you're the first person to consider this?" posts a lot. I sincerely doubt that most of the people who make those posts think they're stumbling across a revolutionary idea, but instead wanted to take a moment to put their thoughts into order via a more concrete medium.
>>24977430
(I hoped I would get muted.)
Also, this: >>24977431. Good people are usually creative and intelligent, too.
>>24977417
>le edgy meme man
>>24977392
You manipulate people to get them to value you gargantuan moron
>>24977430
In modern mathematics, a point refers usually to an element of some set called a space. More specifically, in Euclidean geometry, a point is a primitive notion upon which the geometry is built.
>>24976599
>>24977059
yes there been scientific studies that good people tend to do better in the long run.
>>24976599
You don't feel guilty. You don't ruin anyone elses lives.
>>24977474
What if I'm a sadist?
>>24977036
What part? Somewhere around the frontal lobe, I'd image.
>>24977417
>objective
That's the wrong term, friendo.
>>24976633
the values that you consider to make someone a "real man" are no more valuable, it is just another version of the undefinable "good guy"
>>24977458
Thoroughly true. Thank you. I didn't even remember to dismiss OP's question for its reliance on the secondary, figurative sense of the word, but you're right.
>>24977417
>verbose
seemed like a reasonably solid post to me. I hate how this board is just a bunch of faggots hating on everything which is why i don't come here to often. And if you think that is verbose you need to learn some more words, kiddo
I believe you need to be good in order to be a good father.
>>24977417
>>None of this is new to me, so I'm going to insult him
What a fucking interesting post that would have made, Anon.
>>24977512
>this board is just a bunch of faggots hating on everything
>proceeds to hate on a faggot
seems like you belong here
>kiddo
psh, nothen personnel kid
>>24977561
>being this angry
>>24977561
Go home, you lost
>>24977570
>>24977568
yall just mad that nothing matters because the sun will explode one day.
>>24977598
those frog memes aren't going to post themselves, friend. shouldn't you be in a rare pepe thread gathering material?
>>24977453
That's not how things work. You can manipulate them to value you even more but you're not getting anywhere unless you already have some value. Con artists and magicians are charming and entertaining, thats how they draw people in. That's where their value lies. You can't just pick any beta faggot up off the streets and expect him to be able to manipulate people, because he has no skills, no value.
Being good is pointless.
Look how entertained everyone in this thread is thanks to one jerk.
>>24977634
Why make memes when the universe will expend all its heat and die.
Those dank memes will be forgotten.
Sucks, huh?
>>24977649
See >>24976650, that's why I said "build up favor". It takes time.
>>24977662
>I'm going to continue getting dismissed because I didn't like somebody making a nonfrogpost
>>24976863
No, a truly good person acts for the benefit of everyone; that everyone includes themself and what they do needn't be a sacrifice.
>>24976599
I like to think there is, many people on this board have had the experience of being given unhelpful advice from someone. I mention this because recently i've been trying to be a good person and from what i've experienced it's hard. When someone confides in me and tells me their problems and my only response if fucking memes like 'hang in there' it makes me realise how hard it is to help someone. Knowing the right thing to say how to know what will actually help this person. It makes me think back to the times that people have given me unhelpful advice and it made me feel good because even though the advice was useless the important part was a good person showing they cared about me.
>>24977683
>"If you care, you care; if you don't and it's nothing new, then that's fine too."
>gets pulled into shitposting
what happened to that high ground kiddo?
inb4 i'm someone different :^)
>>24977059
WOW kiddo
did u really think im doing to read that wall of bullshit?
>>24977734
I am someone different you dunce
>>24977734
That was me, you fucking retard. Have you not realized that multiple posters are telling you to take a hike?
>>24977746
>>24977734
obvious samefag is obvious
>>24977674
Oh wow, I get it now. Such a simple concept too
>>24977753
>That was me, you fucking retard.
>proves my point by shitposting more
lol 2 ez
>>24976599
I don't think anything matters at all, we all end up dead, doesn't matter if you're a bible thumper or a killer that murders hundreds of people a year as a private contractor for the Government/CIA, nothing matters to anyone when they're dead in the end.
>>24977746
>tfw i used the word kiddo after some guy used it like 50 times and now ppl think my post is a samefag
im actually alright with this i guess
>ITT everyone flipping out because someone said a "mean thing"
when did this place become a hugbox? fuck off reddit
>>24977698
I think the only thing you really need to do is listen to them; at least that's what I want when I confide in someone, just being listened and maybe cuddled.
>>24977059
>Nobody in today's world matters particularly much. Most of can't name more than a handful of historical emperors and kings
>>24977800
You're an idiot.
No one is "flipping out"
>>24977792
if nothing matters because you will die eventually why not kill self right now?
>>24977800
Does it bother you that it bothers them?
>>24977815
sucks huh?
b
>>24977815
Sucks, huh?
>>24977815
>LOL lets insult someone for not posting le memes hahahahahahah
Fucking stupid edgelords.
>>24977828
it upsets me immensely.
>>24977815
>le hat joke
Simply epic.atheists btfo again
>>24977841
want some fries to go with that salt, kiddo?
>>24977841
> Most of them can't name more than a handful of historical emperors and kings
Sucks, huh?
ITT tiny minds can't handle their insignificance in the universe
>>24977826
It's really 50/50 at this point, I don't have a valid reason to live but why should I die if I don't have to?
>>24977874
>salt
oh so you are reddit invading
cool XD
Not comparing the two, but I bet if that guy had posted an excerpt from "The Pale Blue Dot" you autists would have had the exact same reaction.
>>24977875
Ironically though it doesn't even suck that much.
Those people are dead. They can't know about people caring about them today.
ITT: somebody makes a long post that isn't even that badly written and /r9k/ collectively shits itself over two words
There is no point.
Ultimately, all your actions will be forgotten. You might as well enjoy yourself with the little time you have on this planet.
All your "good" deeds will be obliterated when the sun implodes anyway.sucks huh?
That depends on what's meant by being a "good" person. Broadly, to prosecuting one's objectives effectively requires assertion. There are cases, however, where it pays to cause individuals to underestimate your capabilities and forge a softened image of yourself.
1. Persist -- people are inclined to take the path of least resistance and dislike social tension and conflict. Behave aggressively if necessary and position people to fold before even making a request.
2. Exhaust people if necessary. This relates to point one.
3. By firm but polite in requests. Escalate if there's resistance. This will reinforce submission/capitulation moving forward. Again, this relates to the first point.
4. Make implied threats. Remind people that something could happen should they choose to go against you, whether in employment or broadly.
5. Focus on costs versus benefits and, to the extent possible, set aside your fear of rejection. For the most part, costs amount to no more than someone saying "no".
6. Leverage employment protections against employers.
7. Don't be afraid to lie. Most bluffs aren't called and many people assume honesty. I don't have a degree but that hasn't prevented me from obtaining jobs for which degrees are necessary.
>>24977975
fuck you guys are way more autistic than I ever thought
>>24977967
>being this upset that everyone called you out on your 3rd grade philosophy that you presented as DEEP
SUCKS
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>>24977998
LOL LE FEDORA POST DO YOU THINK UR THE FIRST ONE TO THINK OF THIS? XD
>>24978009
>shitposting because no one liked his euphoric post
stay mad kiddo
>>24978008
>le animu face
>>24978008
Calls somebody angry while repeatedly sperging out through thread
>>24978023
>>24978009
>>24978008
can everyone just shut the fuck up
>>24978039
>>24978008
>>24978009
>>24978023
>>24978030
>>24978034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdWAcK6Eh8
>>24978030
>le LE meme
>>24978034
>>24978030
>>24978023
>>24978009
>>24978008
>>24978002
>>24977975
>>24977967
>>24977915
>>24977909
>>24977900
>>24977875
>>24978059
>>24978039
r9k in a fucking nutshell right here
>>24978080
>le Le le clever ironic shitpost
>>24978080
>le reverse memester
>>24977998
>>24978009
Disregard the spelling/grammar errors. I just woke up. No, I'm not the first. These are classic tactics. Get into people's heads and try to predict their decision-making process when evaluating how to present or pursue a goal.
The biggest recommendation I have is to lie and lie unabashedly. But keep track of one's lies and rely on lies conservatively.
>>24976863
This woman would like to have a word with you.
>>24978082
I got a you haha
>>24978087
>>24978091
>went from thoughtful posts to shitposting
how badly did I upset you two?
>>24978109
I feel bad for you son. You have no idea what you walked into.
>>24978030
>>24978080
>>24978087
These truly are the end-times....
>>24978109
I can taste the euphoria from here
>>24978192
kinda has a 2008 /b/ feel to it.
>come to r9k
>click on this thread
>see contents
well back to /int/ and /trv/
>>24978192
>these truly are the end times lol
>truly
>end times
Lmao, faggot. What is this, a fantasy novel? Are these the "end times" when the nasty orcs are going to come and pillage the beautiful farms of the Shire?
Go back and read some George R. R. Martin, you dumb cunt.
>>24977059
>>24977998
for real? 6
>>24978192
>end-times
>>24978227
Is the "6" indicative of the grade level at which you can read?
>>24978226
>still sperging because no one liked his post
damn anon. You've exceeded my expectations.
how do people enjoy shitposting so much?
ITT: meme-posting faggots versus retards who expected to be taken seriously by the shittiest board on 4chan
>>24978192
>the apocalyptic end-times are upon us, oh no!
>>24978268
>If you care, you care; if you don't and it's nothing new, then that's fine too.
>see shitstorm
>pretend to be multiple people
>watch as autists scramble to make sense of it all
>>24978192
>>24978204
>>24978209
>>24978226
>>24978227
>>24978229
Look at all these "special little snowflakes" who are just too intelligent for this world.
You're all just 3deep5thisworld rite?
>>24978317
this has got to be one of the most autism ridden threads I've seen in years
>>24978312
>watch people try to take the high ground
>break them and get them to start shit posting
>they start attacking everyone that enters the thread
dance monkeys, dance
>>24977901
To add to this i've picked up lots of bad social habits from my outlook on life the past 28 years like smoking tar heroin behind dumpsters or barebacking a schizophrenic homeless woman.
I blame the research chemicals that I did when I was 17 about 11 years ago that made me completely nihilistic...psychedelic tryptamines and phenethylamines.
ITT: pseudo-companions
>>24978357
ITT people who post ITT when they feel defeated
>>24978354
>smoking tar heroin behind dumpsters
>barebacking homeless women
>research chemicals
>nihilistic
>random substances
So, Anon, do you just feel like your life is being slowly enveloped by the sun?
>>24978332
>le autism meme XD
back to reddit, friendo.
Helping others helps me deal with feeling like shit. It takes the focus off of me, I get to spend time with people who appreciate my existence, and I feel like I did something worthy of my time.
But most importantly of all, it makes me feel like a "protagonist" rather than a "side character". The protagonist or the hero is always the one who sacrifices for others, while the side-characters are after their own self-interest. I want to be the main character, not some side character.
>>24978390
>le Reddit meme
>>24977059
>it seems alright to make an effort to better the circumstances of our fellow, self-aware beings
>mfw his level of self importance when he writes this poorly
>>24978402
>he compares his life to animhue
Sucks to suck, huh?
>>24978409
>not hyphenating self-importance
topkek
>>24978402
INFx?
>>24977239
my entire life from start to finish summed up in one post
>>24978374
>ITT people who post ITT when they feel defeated
What did he mean by this?
>>24978384
I feel like my life should have ended about 5 years ago.
>>24978431
Let me consult my philosophy manual, Anon, and I'll get right back to you. Perhaps Kant has something to say on the matter.
>>24978443
Check between the chapter of "Basics for Beginners" and "Things That Suck."
Holy shit this thread!
Record breaking levels of autism.
>>24978357
glad you remember that thread anon
>>24978425
No, INTJ, but good guess.
>>24978484
You sound like an INFP.
Wants to help everyone so they can be the center of attention.
>>24976599
The good things you know of this world are made by good persons.
>>24978468
c'mon ...don't you think the whole autism meme is played out by now? get with the times buddy everyone has schizophrenia now.
>>24978538
oh thanks me too
>>24978507
The 16 personality types can be deceiving. I don't recommend taking them too seriously.
>>24978534
Agreed. The people that made porn and alcohol were good folk.
>>24978577
God bless you, I will pry for you.
>>24978694
oh i'm sorry I will pry for you.
>>24978694
thank u anon much appreciate godbless love
