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You'd think people would be sympathetic toward social outcasts
>>24931002
they're ignorant yo
Normies don't like unattractive, shy, timid, short or low status males.
>>24931002
Its sometimes hard to communicate with social outcasts.
Outcasts are outcasts for a reason.
source: >>>/jp/
>>24931002
Every time a mass shooting occurs us social outcasts take the blame. It's no wonder the normies hate us.
>You'd think people would be sympathetic toward social outcasts
This makes no sense at all. We're social outcasts because we were CAST OUT by normies to begin with.
>>24931057
Its really just the shy and timid thing. I like shy and timid people as friends tho because you can teach them your ways and they are low maintenance. You can just sit back, chill and listen to music with them and they never complain about my choice of music and they dont pressure me to "go talk to her bro haha"
>>24931082
I see sperglords with a bunch of friends. Most of us aren't as outright weird as sperglords. Hell, the marching band kids I know even have friends. They make them easy too. Why did they cast us out? What's wrong with us?
>>24931002
normies are basically violent hateful shits who need a target for their endlessly vicious hateful anger so they go actively looking for convenient targets to be terrible to
the reality is that height, looks, and status don't actually matter they're just excuses that normies make up to have someone to be terrible towards because they're completely rotten people
What did we do wrong? I try to be nice to people but I still can't make any friends.
>>24931002
Two major reasons
1. People sympathize more readily with someone who is culturally relatable or similar looking.
So if you're ugly, different skin color, or from a different culture from the people around you, then they will not sympathize with you. Some may try, but they will instinctively be more critical of you.
Also, science tells us that "ugly things" triggers the same centers in the brain that physical pain triggers. This is why people grow irritated with ugly people for seemingly no reason.
2. Our tribalistic nature compels us to push out things that are not like us.
This ensures conformity and a stronger bond = greater survival. If you have trouble communicating or seem too introverted, you will be seen as problematic or even detrimental to the tribe.
>>24931253
Easy .you're being too nice and trying to be everybody's friend. Thats fake. Everyday we run into people we dont like. Just chill your senses
>>24931002
Roissy/heartiste once summed this up very well: "A lonely woman inspires sympathy. A lonely man inspires contempt."
So, if you were playing on tutorial mode (that is, if you are a 4+ woman who is socially awkward but periodically goes to social events), enough men will eventually find you + your situation cute that they will hit on you enough times that at least one or two will wear you down over time. Bang, non-virgin full normie with a social life. This does not extend to truly hideous or physically deformed women - when ugliness is extreme, this will introduce a visceral contempt which battles with the intellectual pity-reflex.
Men on the other hand are just redundant. To sympathize with surplus men threatens the safe friendships and relationships of already-partnered people, as it invites the possibility of kekoldry, which leads to the destruction of the above relationships, violence, or worse.
Also, women can't empathize with truly solitary men. There's a pertinent image which is regularly posted here, something like "female solitude: omg what I going to do friday I don't know anybody here" / male solitude: "I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO ANOTHER PERSON IN TWO WEEKS." And even if partnered men can empathize, they can't dwell on this to their gfs for too much or too long, as this would amount to a DLV which would ultimately cause her to leave him (which he's trying to avoid since he's already in a relationship in the first place).
It just occurred to me while writing this, that I have never heard of female prisoners being placed in solitary confinement for extended periods, except for one BDSM anecdote and the countess Bathory, who was an EXTREME example. Meanwhile an old black panther nigga literally did something like 40+ years in the box, uninterrupted, until his recent release. Although his case outraged human rights groups, it's still a fact that no one had any trouble doing that to a man. Now I want to look up men vs. women in solitary.
>>24931292
inb4 people call this post out for "euphoria" or whatever, you know he's right.
>>24931002
>outcasts
This word literally means that you have been cast out -- actively.
>>24931438
Yes, but why? Where did we go wrong?
>>24931374
Adding to this, the reverse is obviously not the case. surplus women are welcome and acceptable in small social circles, and the private lives of straight people, in a way that surplus men just aren't. I haven't actually checked the data, but I'm going to make a bold statement: surplus women in lover's triangle situations (this is an actual metric in annual homicide reporting) don't kill nearly as often as men do (I suspect). Quite the opposite, women are more often happy to share sufficiently high-status men and keep the peace. When there is an oversupply of women relative to men (say, after a war), they don't shoot up malls and schools due to sexual frustration. Occasionally, one will successfully commit suicide. Usually, they empty a pint of Haagen Dasz and moan sadly, but they don't actually do anything destructive.
That is why Chinese and Indian society have diametrically, exactly the wrong values when it comes to reproductive sex preference. If they actually knew how to have a society worth having, /they would breed a surplus of women relative to men, and not the other way round/. This would of course necessitate relaxing conventions like dowry, caste and so on. My point here is not to cheerlead for women, but rather to make life more worth living for the men, who as a group would have elevated bargaining power over the women, with the odd MFF arrangement, reason to live, and so forth. And the unhappy surplus in this case doesn't go shooting up the place, as I've already mentioned. The hit in productivity to national economies would be worth it, as long as the imbalance is kept stable, but sadly I don't think any society is smart enough to sustain such a thing, and I suspect there would eventually be reversion to the (50/50) mean, one way or another.
I think the surplus beta Chinese men are being shipped off to Africa to do business and mate with negresses, now. As I've said, can't have surplus men around. What a disgusting injustice!
>>24931636
So we need to start another big war and send the dominant men off to die?
>>24931636
>often happy to share sufficiently high-status men
this is said often on imageboards but i just have never seen or heard of this happen, the alphas i've met have always been in monogamous relationships - even the most blatant case where this guy cheated on his gf (he always admitted it right afterwards to his gf and despite crying she always forgave him) over a dozen times, never did actively date two girls at the same time.
>>24931185
You yourself may not now have a sperglord affect, but most of us on this board have some surface or deep traits in common with those types. Most people here have some mixture of sperg traits, even if you yourself have been around legit autists or geeks with no self-awareness, and been disgusted by them (I've experienced this too).
I have my own place, have had sex (years ago), pay my own bills, own a car and so on, so full normie by most standards. Yet at this very moment I have a neckbeard, I regularly wear socks with sandals, and I masturbated to some furry porn this morning. If you're here, you're doing /SOMETHING/ "wrong". If not one thing, then another.
>>24931711
Two things in response to this. You are correct that (serial?) monogamy is still the social norm. But notice how your thing /involves two women fucking an alpha, and not fucking you/. Nothing more really needs to be said, does it? But I'll add one thing.
Women are still happy to share the same subset of men. If not concurrently (and you know this happens too-sister wives etc), then /serially/. Exactly like what you just described.
Second, I mentioned BDSM earlier. I once went to an event where a single guy had three different women with him. One had a craggy face, but was still thin - the other two were solid 8+s, and not ugly or gross as often happens in this subculture (and even then, multiple women are literally mapping to one man). This foursome were all walking down a hill, just happy as could be. When you see something like that, you don't forget it.
>be dormfag
>just now
>hear people talking about me outside in the hall
>"Yeah, his name is... Anon? I've said hi to him, but that's about it."
>realize I'm probably the only one on my floor who doesn't socialize at all
>realize the normies probably talk about me behind my back
Fuck
>>24931002
if they were sympathetic we wouldn't be socially outcast
How difficult would it be, really, to allow someone to be part of society for a few months so they can learn social skills? Then they will never again annoy you.
It is kind of like homelessness, how difficult would it be to get rid of all those illegal immigrants, all the "refugees", spend the money on our homeless instead, give them a trailer and pay them minimum wage to pick oranges?
Tfw you realise people just about see you as human
Anyone else here have this feel? They laugh hysterically or sound amazed when you say something remotely normie
>Be me at normie table
>sit quietly but realise im the only one not talking
>people looking at me feeling sorry
>try joining in
>"OMG anon you like that too? Hahaha omg i didnt know I always saw you as kinda robotic haha.."
>>24931844
Hey fuckboy, not shaving for a few days, jerking off to cartoons, and wearing socks and sandals are not what we're talking about. We're talking about those of us who have been cast out in EVERY aspect of life. You're a normie who's trying to fit in here because "it's 2015 and it's cool to be le sperglord from time to time XD". Fuck off faggot.
>>24931002
Yes, you'd think the people who purposely kicked people out of the social circle and go to great lengths to avoid them would be sympathetic towards them
>>24931636
You keep mentioning surplus but the weird thing about this is that there about 5 MILLION more women than men in the U.S. So is the idea that there is a much smaller pool of available male /mates/. I'm now curious if there are any statistics about how many men never reproduce vs. women
>>24931002
Why is there so much drinking featured in that anime?
>>24932739
women live to be older than men.
Not really relevant to the thread, but I've been hanging out with some of my old "friends" lately because they wanted to start hanging out with me again. I can't stand being around them to be honest. It's like everyone just exists in this strange state of self-consciousness while waiting to pounce on everyone for practically anything they do. Fuck people.
>>24931002
Normalfags are hostile to us largely because we're hostile to them. It's very difficult to sympathize with somebody who claims to hate you.
>>24931292
We should just be destroyed at birth, then. Save ourselves and the world the trouble.
>>24932994
I agree 100%. I think euthanasia should be legal for anyone. And if someone decides they want to die but does not have a terminal illness, they should be checked on for say a period of 3 years every month to confirm nothing has changed their mind. If they still wish to die after that then one nembutal shot coming up.
>>24931002
The normie's identity is merely a pastiche of the attitudes of the collectives that surround them, a product of a pathogenic society. To this creature the very idea of aloneness, independence and mental sovereignty is contemplated with dread. Men who embody this state are despised and ridiculed because they bring into question every single value at the heart of the normie's collective driven identity.
>>24932799
Get better friends. Not everyone is like that.
>>24931002
Because if they admitted that we're fucked no matter how hard we try, they wouldn't be able to delude themselves anymore that they
>got where they are because they made an effort
>started off with an even playing field but put the work in and it paid off
etc.
>>24931002
>sympathetic
>toward social outcasts
What?
>>24931002
People are always very nice to me in the beginning. But they give up after a while.
>>24931002
Oh and, even if for some reason someone tries to help someone like that, they most often have no idea how to do it, and do what they would do with any other person, to which asocial people react badly.
>>24933191
Yeah, I know. The thing is I'm 30 and have gone through too many circles of friends already. I mean in my experience most people are like that... trying to cut each other down etc. every chance they get. I realize there are some decent people out there but I wouldn't know how to find them.
