What do robots think about after death?
Every time I think about it, I cringe and feel so devastated, knowing there might be nothing but no-existence and infinite years of.. Nothing. Infinity is scary, isn't it?
>inb4 heaven, God and all related stupid religious stuff. I don't buy it.
Well.. Sometimes I wish I could. Everything would be much easier.
>>24913809
how the fuck is it scary if you wont experience it, faggot
I've always believed that we rot in a hole or in an urn or whatever, no spiritual bullshit. People don't like when I say it though because they can't live with the fact that their loved ones are actually just being eaten by maggots and not in heaven living the life.
>>24913809
>there might be
what do you mean? Life is not a magic.
For YOU dying is the same thing as falling asleep without dreams but you wont wake up.
>>24913809
I think we just cease to exist just like before we were born.
It's not so scary anymore when you see it that way.
The process of dying scares the shit out of me though. I just hope it ends fast for me when the time comes.
>>24913928
how can you say that, you psycho!
You can't experience non-existence.
Do all the billions of years that passed before you were born bother you?
Just don't worry about and try to live your life as best you can.
You disappear until the random pattern that generated your consciousness recurs again in the universe (or maybe multiverse)
The transition, to you, is instantaneous, and of course you won't remember your "last life"
Or that's my guess at least
Most phenomena are repeatable, I don't see why consciousness would be an exception.
>>24914984
>as best you can.
the thing is the "best" thing for your brain (as a carrot) usually is masterbaiting to lolis or whatever. You're basically dysregulated by porn.
What makes peoples good is what they like the most (what they do).
Slaneesh #1 god of animals.
>>24915075
>consciousness
>no idea about the term
speaking
>>24913809
Literally every time I go to sleep, I pray to God that he kills me in my sleep, that I have a heart attack or something and just never wake up.
I pray because I don't have the guts to kill myself, tried a few times, always pussy out.
>>24915148
What do you mean when you say this?
>>24915204
I'll teach you that last time.
RULE #33.
then check out this >>24914009
>>24913883
There are people this retarded in the world my man.
>>24915262
I'm not going to understand if you keep being intentionally vague
>>24913809
I thought I was going to commit suicide today.
I did a double dose of edibles to knock myself out faster, but before I did I would listen to my favorite music walking down the street. My brother would be extremely upset that I "invaded his privacy" and took his edibles. It would make him angrier than Hitler, then again, he seems un-diagnosed bipolar with a myriad of issues up there as well. He would call and text me while I was outside, firstly concerned about the "traitorous act" I have committed. Secondly concerned since he knew that I was high and went off alone without telling anyone he would seek to rid himself of possible liability.
Anyway, I left the apartment too early. I was feeling relaxed but it began to hit hard on the walk. Waves of emotion, regret, failure, and most of all uncertainty. Uncertainty. To know enough to realize how little one truly knows. And as I learned more, the less it seemed I want to learn. I went inside the convenience store on the corner, bad part of town, biker gang had rolled in to the bar across the street. Favorite spot for the "tough" guys, problem is these gangs can be no BS and not friendly. I was going to call after one of them, ask him about his Bike, it looked amazing to be honest. A golden, brownish free flowing web design, with an auburn background lined the main metal, the pipes and engine, shiny and chrome. He ignored me and went on. Some other shitty people were around, the apartment residents walking their dogs, giving you weird looks.
So I walked onto the tracks after buying sour crawlers, my favorite candy besides chocolate, gulped them down easy. I looked into the blackness at the end of the tracks, at least the end of what I could see. They seemed to stop abruptly, right before these spots of dark, and move on in a scurried fashion. But the closest ones felt like an abyss on each side had opened up to consume me. Suddenly the thought of death wasn't so comforting.
I am starting to believe we will live another life after this one and so on. We will be given the traits based on how good of a person we were in the past life. So if you were a do gooder in this life, next life will gift you the looks of a Chad or above average intelligence. If you were an opposite, you will be reborn ugly, dumb or myb with a disease of some sort. Makes sense, no? Heaven and hell is too simpke and flawed imo. If you are up there, forgive me for these thought l, based God.
>>24915399
found the religious kek
out
>>24913883
Well, what else do we assume happens to our consciousness when we die?
>>24915331
ah, alright mr I CAN ONLY FOCUSED.
Sorry, my fault. it was supposed to be this >>24913975
Your "consciousness" even if (Infinite monkey theorem) won't be YOU because there is no "you". YOU are just a temporary program made up from memory connections which are changing all the time.
>>24915416
Come on man, Im just trying to find sonething that makes sense. Why else would there be a starving African child and a Chad that enjoys money, drugs and sex on this same planet? Seriously, I feel bad for thinking this way, but its the only thing that seems fair.
>>24915436
Your consciousness dies with you.
>>24913883
>>24913928
These posts are true.
>>24915075
>until the random pattern that generated your consciousness recurs again in the universe
The universe, and even the multiverse, are not infinite. So there is not really a guarantee that the pattern will occur again.
>>24915502
>fair
There is no fairness. Everything is absolutely random.
>>24915399
why do you even try fitting in here?
>>24915502
stop trying to look for fairness where there is none. some people got it bad cos the universe's existence & composition is random and completely arbitrary and it's pure chance that our world turned out this way.
>>24915502
not realising that this particular "the starving african child" would be the second Mao Zedong if given the right opportunity.
>>24915377
No if anything, it felt absolutely wrong to be there, at that time. I wanted to escape. It was one of the worst things a human being could experience, an easing unsettling scream of my conscious rang out as a man with a cane approached me. He asked for $1.50 to buy wings, when I told him I didn't have any money he was angry, waved his hand and went off. Another bum. I wonder if that would be me one day. Walked past the bar, and headed home, answered by my brother whose first questions where "what are you on?" "where did you get it from?" from the beginning he was asking that. No "Are you okay?" "Whats up?" "Sit down, relax, its alright". I was blasted. I am blasted. Do you know why I loathe this man? and at the same time, Pity him? Because he's human. He pretends to care about his family and asserts himself on others while avoiding emotional baggage and actually making the other person feel guilty for saying anything logical in a situation where he is evidently wrong. My middle brother, well, I don't have anything against him, but at the same time I would prefer to be alone. These two, are part of the reason I loathe myself as well. My vulnerability, my naivete, when it came crashing down I couldn't handle it. My blood boils at the thought we share these genes, that my parents are similar, weak...this weak family. I wanted power. I wanted to be respected. By desperately fooling myself I attempted to pretend to be smart over the years, I tried boxing, I tried being so many other people and other things that I lost sight of who I was. I still don't know who I am. What do I think is funny, truly? What was important to me. What did I want with life.
In the end, my fear and uneasiness led me to step off the tracks. And now that I think about it its funny how much of a narcissistic bastard I can be.
Funny, when I came back, my brother told me his wife's sister had a dream I died of an allergic reaction. Death is sleep. Lets see what happens.
>>24915488
Right. And if a temporary program can be created that may or may not be arbitrarily assigned to "me", then why can't it happen again?
There is something tethering these random patterns to awareness itself, I just don't know what it is.
>>24915399
I wish I could be as ignorant as you.
Consciousness itself doesn't even make much sense. There's too much we don't know to make any definitive conclusions.
>>24915800
Pretty much this
It's nice to make theories because they're a shot in the dark that might lead somewhere... maybe... but it's hard to say
>>24915729
>can't it happen again?
Infinite monkey theorem. Fuck you, I wont make a precis especially for you, lazy fucktard.
Even IFFfff. It's just a copy.
I may be just a dumb polish guy but don't you have any good sci-fi books in your country?
>>24915908
No need to be an ass I'm actually trying to understand what you're saying
If anything that infinite monkey theorem you're talking about would seem to support my stance, unless what you're trying to say is that awareness evokes reality and not the other way around (which is what I was saying). Is that what you're trying to say?
I just think we are all already dead, what we are experiencing right now is just an echo of what we already lived multiple times. Time is slower toward the start of the "echo" but gets condensed near the ending of it's lifespan, so it gets gradually faster. The echo doesn't end, it only gets compressed and implodes on it's own, unleashing life once again.
That or you know, a penguin and dolphin god eating our souls.
>>24916170
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>tfw no true death
>>24916136
And, if that is what you were trying to say, then the question remaining would be what are the rules that govern how it conjures reality? Unless rules don't exist, are transient, and it all truly is spontaneous. In which case we're (not) fucked. But if rules do exist, even temporarily, we could take advantage of them to get where we want to go. But then those wants are just a facet of the reality being observed and not awareness itself...
>>24916274
>>24916274
But in that case there would be no distinction between awareness and observable reality, so even then those wants are still an expression of "it"
Things falling into place could be seen as lucky if it is all the result of spontaneity
>>24913809
How could salvation from suffering be scary?
>>24916210
Interesting, I had no clue this was already a philosophy.
>>24916400
Yeah if you're into D&D and tabletop stuff Planescape is a pretty interesting and philosophy-laden campaign setting.
It's only 2nd edition I believe but it's still an interesting read.
There's also the video game.
>>24915697
Holy shit
Are you the future me?
>always the "smart kid"
>currently training for boxing
>love sour crawlers and chocolate
>have 2 brothers
>since coming on 4chan since 10 outlook on life is as shit as yours
>suicidal thoughts sometimes
>take too much painkiller, like 500 mg for a 200 mg pain
I don't want to end up like you. Where did you fuck up?
>>24915416
>>24915594
>>24915597
>>24915615
>>24915774Scooby doo bap pap da doom
>>24916448
Cool! If the video game is okay, I might check it out.
>>24913809
>You will probably fall asleep then wake up, finding out that you are still trapped in your body. It is bury into the ground. You will lie there for eternity in the darkness and the only thing you can see is your eyelids
>>24916625
The gameplay itself is kind of tedious and it runs on an ultra low resolution but the storyline and the dialog are pretty good imo
>>24916509
...alright I'll tell you what I think went wrong. Started to care more about what people thought of me than my own future, than myself. Began to be paranoid, analyzing people, analyzing myself, always coming to the conclusion that I'm childish and that my family is made of assholes, when in reality I'm just a desperate child fooling himself every day.
Find ways to reward yourself I guess. I don't know what to tell you, I'm a sack of shit whose probably going to be homeless soon.
>>24916621
Chocolate rain of blood on you.
>>24915697
>>24915377
This is well written. Consider trying writing.
I'd really like to hear more. Do you have anything else to say?
>>24915377
>>24915697
I would really like to hear more from you. Please, reply if you read this.
>>24913809
"you" will personally die and cease to exist, but consciousness and experience will continue to be generated.
we're all fundamentally identical with regards to consciousness and experience.
the ride never ends
I look forward to it. I don't care about what's on the other side, if God is the fat kid who blocks his sims in the pool and lights their house on fire and deems I should suffer even more for all eternity then so be it. Nothing is going to change that at this point. All I know for certain is that when I die I'm not going out alone.
Death is just release from the burden of life.am I edgy yet?
>>24916637
That's possibly the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Nothingness is nothing you dumb fag. We were already nothing and we don't remember shit and now we're shitposting. If heaven isn't real then fuck it, i won't experience it. We just fall asleep and don't wake up.
>>24914009
Nah, this universe is the latest of a long line of simulations being run at a prestigious university in another dimension. The goal is to find the optimal physical laws to cause the maximum total quantity of suffering. I mean, think about it. Conservation of energy means that there will always be scarcity... the root of all suffering for our species at least and I would imagine all others too. Not to mention that ever-present imposing threat of heat death, where everything that anybody has ever cared about is reduced to a few neutrinos spread across the icy void.
The problem they keep running up against is that the current family they're pursuing has a tendency to create a few people who have it really really good and don't suffer at all. I wonder if they'll be able to adjust the weights to fix that or if they'll have to scrap this entire track.
Only time will tell.
>>24913809
Nothingness is scarier to you than hell. Think about that for a second
>>24913809
I find the concept of death absolutely terrifying and it's been occupying my mind more and more the last year.
I just can't imagine leaving my consciousness and all my life experiences behind to become nothing and be completely forgotten by history in no more than at most a hundred years.
>>24920903
>The goal is to find the optimal physical laws to cause the maximum total quantity of suffering
If you really think that you, or any human in history, has experienced anything near the utter optimal amount of suffering, you are misinformed.
You have no idea what "the optimal amount of suffering" really means. It's like being amazed at the size of mountains. It's reasonable because it's valid relatively. But there things unfathomably bigger than mountains.
>>24921224
...what?
no, I'm not saying I could comprehend it, but I'm assuming that these extra-dimensional scientists have ways of measuring suffering in a simulation. They're trying to see how high they can get the quantity (divided by total sentient organisms of course)
>>24921280
Yes, and im saying this would be a particularly poorly yielding simulation.
honestly? I can't wait. being unconscious and not needing to do anything forever? ceasing to exist? sign me up. I want out.
>>24921315
Why aren't you out right now?
>>24921364
not enough money for a shotgun or helium
no other methods available
don't want to do it close to christmas and mess up my family
>>24913975
This is much scarier to me than death. Never even being alive...
>>24921310
how can you say that? they're repeating the experiment many many times with slightly different starting conditions. one would surely yield the most suffering per sentient organism. you also have to remember that physical laws are very vague and you definitely can't just have a law like "all sentient life is perpetually in pain". the life itself develops within the terms of the physical laws.
it might take many many repetitions, but surely they have enough computational power for that.
>>24913975
>>24921419
What about "I think, therefore I am" ?
>>24921464
Bundle theory. I don't know how it's evolved past Hume though. I need to read more. Unfortunately it looks like absurdism is the only way though.
How long til immortality? I want answers!
Sometimes, I like the concept of oblivion. It sounds so nice and peaceful, like an eternal dreamless sleep.
Other times, I want there to be an afterlife. I want my own little planet like King Kai in Dragon Ball Z (okay, maybe a bit bigger than that). And I could visit other little planets and go on adventures and shit, and there wouldn't be any worries weighing me down like there are in this world.
It would be pretty shirty to kill yourself then be alive again. I think there is a movie about this. Gonna try and find it
>>24921705
Wristcutters. Looks kinda shitty though
im freaking out now because I'm terrified of the process of dying, when I realize that I'm indeed dying and sinking into that abyss of nothingness, the last experiences I will ever live, then black, then nothing
>>24922290
Shhh it'll all be okay anon.
We're all in it together though. I'm just as fucked as you are.
>>24914984
WHY DO PEOPLE SAY THIS LIKE IT'S COMFORTING
>>24915075
Would I have have a different life or would I live the same life?
>>24915436
>you are not your consciousness (and accompanying sub processes)
>>24913975
This guy gets it.
>>24915508
A lot of people don't understand that even IF there are an infinite number of universes/realities it doesn't mean that the specific reality they desire exists.
I can easily construct an infinite set of universes that don't contain that scenario.
Infinity is not a guarantee of success.
The sequence of odd numbers is infinite but that doesn't mean you'll ever get one equal to 2.
>>24913809
same feel as before you were born
>>24913809
for something to be "scary" you have to be able to perceive it. do you think all those years before you were born were scary? the ones that come after will be the same. you won't be there to have to worry about it.
>>24923488
Because nothing happens, you idiot. It's over. "You", don't even exist, in any way, shape, or form. Because you're the only conscience you have.
its a realm beyond physicality, and everything the physical universe contains.
its really beyond our ken. but also exciting in a way. nature isnt cruel. not in life or in death. nature simply is. death to my mind is the same. the seed of a new beginning in the husk of an ending. like puberty.
>>24924139
still not good
This is not desirable
God damn you must be a real laff at parties
>>24913809
I dont care what it is. I just know even infinite nothingness is better than this meager existence i've carved out. wish i was fucking dead.
>>24924056
>The sequence of odd numbers is infinite
i suppose in this sense you are right, but when we speak simply of infinity (witthout this condition of "odd numbers") we are speaking of all infinite conceptions aren't we, given infinite time?
What would you say to the common thought experiment of "if there is a monkey typing random keys on a typewriter infinitely eventually it will write the complete works of shakespeare"
it seems to me that speaking in terms of probabilities and given infinite time this would inevitably happen.
I had this near-death experience when I was drowning in a lake. It felt amazing, like this cosmic warmth and eternal acceptance of the void. Everything felt warm, even in the cold water. It was like this blanket of niceness, this acceptance that I was going to die, this comfort from feeling I would suffer no more in this life. I saw all these spinning colors and I read later in this book on the Tibetan Book of the Dead that they were symbols of my life and the things I've done. Not sure if that's true, but it's pretty interesting that others have had similar experiences as me.
>>24925525
>the Tibetan Book of the Dead
tell me more anon?
>>24925771
Basically virtues are attached to certain colors you see during death and if you go through all of them then you can achieve Nirvana, or else you have to wander this world as a spirit until you find a new body to inhabit. Spirits are usually unaware that they are spirits, and they try doing the same things they normally do over and over again. At least that's how I remembered it from the book, it's been a while.
>>24925819
interesting. is it anything to do with auras around people? I used to see an orange aura around my old IT teacher in middle school.
Religion, Does any of you believe in Jesus, Allah, Blah, blah. at all?
I'm a athiest and I think the numbers today are growing in a large rate, which is suprizingly good, less stupid people.
pic unrelated.
>>24925866
Not sure. The book I read was only focused on the moment of death.
>>24925905
I'm agnostic but fairly spiritual.
>>24925905
I believe in a transcendent truth that subverts and encompasses all reality, which can be reached through meditation and trance-like experiences, through drugs, psychosis, or otherwise. I have schizophrenia so I don't take half of what I think seriously, but I do think there's some kind of truth to be unearthed about the human condition and consciousness as a whole. This is coming from my own experiences, it's not something I can convey well through words. Many others have come to similar conclusions as me, which makes me believe that there's some kind of meaning and ontology to this truth "thing", whatever it is. This truth includes the meaning of why we are here, as well as our destiny through life and death.
I used to be scared of the nothingness after death, but after years of depression I find the idea of nothing after death very comforting.
>tfw big crunch
>tfw universe eventually shrinks down back to infinite nothing
>tfw infinite nothing is basically infinite everything as far as i can comprehend
>tfw destruction of the universe in this manner is basically a re-creation
>tfw your matter will eventually get jumbled around until it becomes something capable of perceiving itself again an infinite amount of time later
Man, this is the first time I've typed this out and looked at what I believe and have drawn conclusions to, and, damn. I sound like a fucking nutcase. Life's so fucking gay.
>tfw look forward to my inevitable disintegration and despise inevitable future consciousness
>>24926051
I actually made an edit of that very funny frog back when it was still a thing. Do you like it?
I agree with your post pretty much, I had psychosis when I was 14 but never got diagnosed with anything.
I believe in stuff like the afterlife. Hard to believe we end up as nothing but what do I know?
If I do get reborn I'd like to see what life as a girl is like.
>>24926112
I'm right there with you bro
>>24926112
>as above, so below
Do you deprive yourself of sleep because you're afraid of not having any dreams? That's exactly what it would be like except you don't wake up.
Nothingness is the most peaceful thing you will ever experience.
>>24925905
you will burn in hellfire
>>24926224
It's very nice, I saved it.
>>24927845
Thank you, anon. Feels good to be validated. Usually I only find my OC on normie tier facebook page comment sections.
>>24927386
>Nothingness is the most peaceful thing you will ever experience.
>nothingness
>experience
the fuck you talkin bout
