the youth of today
The youth have always been interested in dumb shit, this is nothing new.
good luck breeders
the youth of yesterday
They're probably looking at interpretations and context of The Night Watch online.
It's less bulky than a giant thirty pound Art History textbook, and you know how all the colored printing in the back falls out of the binding.
Fuck that shit.
do "cultured" people just stare at paintings for hours and hours in their spare time?
>>24834973
They could all be reading Kant or Nietszche or shitposting
Just saying
>>24834973
Museums with paintings aren't as interesting anymore because you can literally see them on Google whenever you want.
>>24835117
And you can Google the entire history of the Mona Lisa and critics commentary on it.
>>24835079
they are socialising on their dumbphones. normies don't even go outside anymore, it's too much of a hassle.
>>24835117
>tfw there's a lot less wonder in the world because you can just see it on Google
>>24835074
Being cultured is about possessing the knowledge or experience to properly appreciate the sublime aspects of an artist's work e.g. their skill, technique, vision, or message.
fookin worthless the lot of em yeah
they don't even play sonic 2 for the sega genious.
why do they have to be heathens
>>24835159
but couldn't they have just done that and then sat down to post on twitter or something?
>>24835117
You've never really been in the room with a moving painting, have you?
You can look at every little pixel of Guernica, but it's just a picture.
When you're in the same room, it strangles you.
I'm pretty bad about looking at my phone for hours on end and I'm 30.
They will die in ww3
>>24835159
Good Sir, we are in agreement.
>>24835202
you yung folk are so into this social media fantagnazia. Us people of my age aren't so into that soykaf.
Does OP think were any better?
>>24835117
While you can see it on Google you can't see how they compare to you, their size, how textured the work is (especially paintings), and so on.
I remember when I had to do a report on ancient art and going to an exhibit to describe it. The Assyrian relief was actually pretty massive spanning the whole wall. It makes me wonder what sort of life they had at the time, where this would be at, how their cities were.
>>24835226
Philistine.
>>24834973
They're there on a field trip, they had an to look up the answer to a question.
>>24835254
bruh i don't wanna listen to anymore this booshit ya herd get da fuk outa here
>>24834973
Does anyone else here feel like they were born in the wrong generation?
>>24835285
alright bro that's coo i mean yall just gunna talk bout that shit like bruh that ian't even a meme
inb4 they're viewing the museum's reference app and OP is BTFO'd
>>24835205
I have been. I've seen all the classics and statues they have in D.C.
I was just making a general point. Because before extensive internet archiving it was a big deal to see a painting. Because it was only in one place. But now it's one search away. I can see and read every bit of culture without spending hundreds or thousands of dollars to travel to a museum.
>>24835145
>tfw normies are exhibiting robot behaviours
>>24835074
Well, I was in that museum not too long ago and there's so much too see I could spend hours just staring at everything.
I see no reason to use a smartphone when I am surrounded by things that are a million times more interesting.
>>24835272
DON' MAKE ME WHIP DAT ASS O' YOR'S MUDDA FUQQA.
>>24835285
>90's
>no internet
>forceful edge and optimism
>shitty fashion
>80's
>no internet
>everyone whinging about AIDs crisis
>fear of being bombed to shit by Russians
>70's
>no internet
>deviant drug using disco fiends all over the place
>blacksploitation littering media
>60's
>draft
>"sexual revolution"
>hippies
>women's pubic hair covering entire body
>50's
>no internet
>get run out of town for being a weirdo
>everyone wants to be treated like retarded children
>40's
>no internet
>war rationing
>have to fight suicidal japs
>or maniacal nazis
>lipstick is made out of wax and fat taken from sewage facilities
>30's
>no internet
>the depression
>if you aren't a hobo you have to fight hobos
>20's
>no internet
>no booze
>gangsters all over the place
>urbanization is still facing infrastructural problems regarding waste and crowding
I'm actually fucking good.
This is pretty good.
>>24835419
>I see no reason to use a smartphone when I am surrounded by things that are a million times more interesting
I agree! Glad to see someone else on this board is as sophisticated as me. G'day m'sir
>>24835444
>mfw newfags can't even fedora shame correctly
Waste of trips.
>2005
>You're always on your computer
>Go out and socialize
>You're wasting your life
>2015
>You DON'T have a facebook?!
>What do you mean you didn't know? I tweeted it!
>My iPad's stopped working, can you fix it?
I got so much shit for being tech obsessed, even brought my mother to tears.
Now it's the other way around. Fuck everybody.
>>24835117
Nah, seeing them live completely blows you the fuck out.
I remember being left breathless by the Sistine Chapel, even though I had seen it dozens of times on Google
>>24834973
>They all get brainwashed by BBC porn
Just as planned
>>24835489
time to go outside again?
>>24835285
>inb4 le wrong generation XDDDD
Unless you're being an ironic little fucker, fuck that meme.
>>24835475
>newfags
>implying
Your just jealous of my trips :^)
Probably using the Rijksmuseum app or google looking for the answers of their school assignment.
iz anyone else born in le wrong generation XDXDXD
Because when every other generation was young they all stood awe struck for hours in art museums
>>24835117
To be quite honest, the museum has a lot more than just paintings, there's a lot more too see.
I'm a sucker for old furniture myself.
>>24835254
Went to the British Museum, saw the Assyrian exhibition. Saw the massive Lamassu, the Balawat gates and the enormous relief gallery, just relief after relief for what felt like miles, and to think that they would all have been painted brightly at one point.
It was incredible. But I also looked at my phone a lot, to research geneology of kings, or for interpretation of some symbol or other.
OP is a lewronggeneration memebaby
>>24835826
get yourself to the China gallery at the BM m8, they've got some fucking beautiful Qing furniture and desk pieces (inkwells, brush stands, etc)
>>24834973
>ugh today's kids waste all their time on the Internet! This generation is awful
>I better complain about it online at my Taiwanese ping pong enthusiast forum
I honestly feel that there was some extraordinary circumstances which allowed real humans to be born in the period from 1991-1993.
Everyone born outside of this period is not a real human, more like a living meme.
>>24835925
I've noticed that too. I've had a 60 year old say something similar as well.
I didn't get my first official phone plan until 14, in high school. My mom felt it was right since I was involved in a lot of extracurriculars and I went to the library after school often. It'll be tough, but I'll do the same for my kids. No phone until high school.
>>24835925
What exactly are you on about?
Kids were dumb as fuck pre-smartphone era though as well. You can't expect them to actually be little geniuses. The best you can do is keep them well behaved.
as if kids at any age during any time gave a fuck about the "deepness" of art.
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>>24835898
I'm expecting kids in 5 months and people like you are the driving force behind why I have to raise my children to be non-tech-obsessed intellectuals. You people disgust me from deep within.
>>24835925
91-93 isn't that bad. 1995 and up are the real meme generation. This coming from someone born in 89.
>>24836042
tip that fedora harder senpai
>>24836063
If wanting non-meme children makes me a fedora so be it. Go play angry birds or candy crush or whatever the fuck you facebook kids do, faggot.
>>24835925
>>24836042
What changed in '94?
>>24835254
A good, high quality photograph is as good as seeing it in real life as far as I'm concerned. I remember I saw the book of Kells once, and all I saw was one page behind a glass casing for a few minutes. Now I have the entire thing saved on my computer where I can see far more detail than I could in real life and can look at any page whenever I want.
Same thing with the Assyrian reliefs, I saw them in the museum but it was hot and crowded and I was exhausted from walking around, and seeing them all at once was overwhelming. I can appreciate them better with some pictures.
The problem though is that you can never find very good photographs for everything in a museum, and even when you do they tend to lack things like scale, proper lighting, etc.
>>24836088
lol, just because i don't think I'm super deep for looking at art in a gallery (leaving aside the fact that I actually work in one) doesn't make me a meme kid
you can look at art, then sit down and have a break, read some news on a smartphone, digest the piece, read about it, compare thoughts with friends, it doesn't bother me, what matters is that people are responding to it
but seriously, are we going to compare a bunch of schoolkids who were probably dragged to the Rijksmuseum on a school trip, whether they wanted to go or not, to an adult who voluntarily decided to go of their own curiosity.
Being a fucking smug luddite is not the answer to anything, and desu I'd rather have bored kids quietly using their smartphones in the gallery than running around causing trouble like your little shitstain mutant offspring would
>>24836042
>>24836088
>having children
>posts on /r9k/
How does it feel knowing you are a walking meme destined to produce meme children even worse than the ones on here?
>>24836099
They grew into adolescence at around the same time internet culture became mainstream (2010). They missed out on a lot of development like getting jobs, participating in extra-curriculars (non-sport ECs are definitely dying), or proper dating in favor of playing around on social media.
That being said, lazy parents could've done something about it, but it's easier when their kid is sucked into a phone for hours not bothering them.
>>24836196
>proper dating
Subjective, opinion based; if young people don't value that model of dating why would they care about never having had it? Nobody misses arranged marriages.
>participating in extra-curriculars
Kids have been blowing off EC's to play video games since the 1980s.
>getting jobs
Get the boomers to retire so the massive backlog of people working in shitty low-level jobs can move up the ladder and open up spots for teenagers.
>>24836196
>proper dating
>Hours on the cellphone
BACK IN MY DAY WE COURTED GIRLS ON HORSE BUGGIES AND WE LIKED IT.
>>24836168
I wasn't the anon that was defending real art over pictures, but I'm still disgusted that people would defend schoolchildren using smartphones at all.
>you can look at art, then sit down and have a break, read some news on a smartphone, digest the piece, read about it, compare thoughts with friends, it doesn't bother me, what matters is that people are responding to it
You may work in a gallery, but I was also a teacher once. Only the smart kids might be doing anything like that.
>Being a fucking smug luddite is not the answer to anything
>not liking what I like makes you smug >:O
>I'd rather have bored kids quietly using their smartphones in the gallery than running around causing trouble like your little shitstain mutant offspring would
Yeah, and most teachers would prefer it to be that way in their classrooms but that wouldn't make us very good at our jobs would it?
>>24834973
I remember going to the National Portrait Gallery back in like 2005 for a school trip, nobody was interested back then either
Actually I envy those kids with the smartphones, that trip had us all bored to tears
>>24836306
I called you smug because you think you're much better than people who use smartphones for no reason other than having fallen victim some fuzzy modern 'natural is better' nostalgia driven Nature Valley marketer's fantasy
>>24836042
>2015
>having children
Haha have a nice life, its all downhill from here faggot
>>24834973
I agree with you but I think the picture's fake, I've been to the museum where that picture is and there are no benches that close.
>>24834973
That's a Rembrandt, right? Il Maestro
>>24836346
Heh, yeah kinda. Either way, I think we've surpassed the equilibrium of technology and humanity, and I guess I just prefer humanity.
>>24834973
Try gain some self-awareness OP. No kids are interested in classic art, it is literally not in their brain. Just like abstract reasoning doesn't develop until ~14, so judging a kid below this on having to be forced to eat healthily because he won't consider his future health is retarded. As is judging these kids for being interested in fun and socializing.
I love galleries now and do a lot of art in my spare time, but I absolutely loathed them as a kid.
Don't conflate the fact that you weren't included in the kids' socialization with the idea that you somehow chose a higher path. You were simply left out.
>>24836856
Exactly, everyone seems to forget what a pathetic shit they were when they were younger. I recently went back to uni to study medicine (im 26) and the 18 year old medics are all cringe in how hard they try to be cool, they seem stupid as brick dust and like the worst music imaginable. But in truth im sure i was the same when i was their age, i wanted to go out a lot and get off in clubs, i loved drum n bass and i made some really awful fashion choices.
Similarly the professors are always astounded by how little we know about medical topics as if some things are common knowledge, and they have clearly also forgotten that they didn't always exist in this state of privy wisdom - and were too at one time uninformed and clumsy.
People need to gain some introspective abilities.
>>24836954
> /v/
> introspective abilities
cuk what are you hoping for, everyone here has about as much self-awareness as a mushroom, they even call themselves robots
Would you say one of the reasons youth of today are addicted to this shit is because they are all incredibly lonely and shallow or something else?
>>24835489
I miss 2005 and early 00s, Apple and Facebook truly fucked us over by making anyone and everyone come onto the internet by claiming they have a "voice".
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>>24836954
Probably true to an extent, but it is possible that a generation is objectively worse. Not so much the kids now, but i fear the kids in 5-10 years will have no autonomy, will be completely socially driven and will also be the biggest cuucks of a generation.
But the current kids can be rated badly for how they are objectively more sex-obsessed and slutty (shitty media and left-wing influence), but they also drink less and look after themselves more in my experience. So maybe they're just different and not worse necessarily.
>>24837041
No, most of them aren't lonely. Just the barrier has been raised as to what being social is - now people feel inadequate if they don't have 10,000 friends and instagram followers. So as opportunity increased so too did the standard of being social. If anything social media has just allowed those who would have otherwise been completely and utterly isolated to have some connections.
>>24836042
>You people disgust me from deep within
I'm dirt poor and being able to pay 30$ for a PDF of a 250$ book is one of the few things keeping me in school.
I know you're scared of what might happen because of a changing world, but through the fear and uncertainty there are glimmers of light.
Think of every change humanity has survived, and thrived through.
Congratulations regarding your expecting!
New birth into this new world, relish the challenges and surprises of parenthood Anon.
>>24836042
>Having kids
>2015
Literally for what purpose
>>24837172
> believing he is actually having kids when it was clearly a samefag post
Isn't it strange that the times when people think the world started going to shit almost always coincides with the end of their adolescence?
>>24836042
>having kids in the current year
>thinking you can raise them to be different
>>24837290
No matter how much they saw the meme "the older hate the new generation" history repeats itself.
Guaranteed the cool kids of the 50s thought they would buck the trend because they weren't stupid and oh wait.
Seems like an evolutionary perception trick, where just like we cant see the gorilla in the basketball game, we all cant see the young objectively.
I too think anyone aged 14-25 or so is completely brain dead and dangerous, but sure as shit the world will still be running somehow when im long dead.
>>24836954
I used to be a major bitch when i was younger, hated exercise, was passive aggressive pre-empting not being chosen for team sports by not participating at all (whilst simultaneously telling everyone how bad i was at sports, literally retard-tier grabs at sympathy and attention). Now i am without question the most active person i know; i co-owned a gym for a while, play rugby, and cycle and work out 5 days a week. I think things just change when you grow out of adolescence and that occurs at different times for different people. But judging a generation on what their teens do is and always has been a depressing and pointless exercise.
They will mature and take over from us, just the same as our shitty teenage selves eventually did.
