Why are more and more men seemingly afraid to approach women now?
It seems that as the years go by, less guys are making the first move. And almost come off like they're devolving into misogyny and bitterness now.
>>24816579
nah its prob just you lol. tick tock don't stop
Yes men are just misogynistic for NO REASON, its not like 80% of women demand men be 6ft, not like women rate the vast majority of men as below average.
women are a bad investment so we dont bother
This generation of young men have less fathers than any before it.
Most of us just dont know what to do, try awkwardly a few times and fail, lowering our already crippled self- esteem even further
cause the media tells men that they shouldn't even bother if they aren't a 10/10 chad
>women have obscenely high standards, especially regarding things that you cannot change or compensate for
>men have become demonized and feminized and/or embedded in cheap/free stimulation
>inevitable collapse of western civilization anyway
>>24816666
czeched
>>24816579
Forty years ago there wasn't much to do so you found gf.
These days there's so much to do that girls just can't compete on an engaging level. I can spend my time really enjoying myself, or working to make sure someone else enjoys themself. Why would I do that, though? Afraid to approach, you say? No, I have better things to do.
>be me
>noshing upon my amazing 10nug for 2.95 meal in food court
>opening my latest batch of Pokemon cards
>fingers greasy, slick card packaging
>accidently snort frustratedly
>hear laughing
>gaggle of permaskinny clayfaces looking at me from their table
>"lol omg gross look at that pig lol amirite?"
>well fuck you too, just because i know what im all about
>im just sitting here trying to exist
>im doin me nigga
>Mega Rayquaza pull
>holy fucking shit nice
>cant touch because grease
There is too much to do, too much competition.
I prefer the solitude of my room and the comfort of waifus
>>24816579
>Girls become feminazis
>Girls become "sexually liberated"
>End up only chasing after Chad 20/10
>Become used up cum dumpsters
>HEY WHERE'D ALL THE GUYS GO XD
>WHY ARE THEY ALL SUDDENLY ACTING MORE MUHSOGGYKNEES XDXD
>WHY ARE MEN SHOWING LESS INTEREST IN US XDXDXD
>>24816579
>devolving
you get 5/8's of my keks.
Too many mixed signals; even when you think you're getting somewhere, you aren't. No one likes rejection, and talking to women=guaranteed rejection for the most part, so why bother anymore?
Essentially women don't understand than men are naturally more autistic than them, and they aren't as good at communicating as they like to think.
>>24816579
Don't buy into this"hurr why don't guys act like men no more" bullshit. It's partially because of women.They think all guys approaching themare going to KILL them
>>24816579
What, you want me to be your provider? You want me to be your personal clown, entertaining you every second just so you can fuck the first Chad you see? Or do you just want me to embarrass myself as you reject and berate me with your friends because I don't meet your ridiculous standards?
You know what, I have better things to do. I have my hobbies and my life, and no time for you. You're superfluous. So fuck you.
A failed approach can result in ridicule/harassment in meat space and online. A guy can even lose his job for if he has a professional relationship. But I don't think it's totally due to fear of approaching. I think that women aren't as enticing as they once were. These days women are more obese, aggressive, guarded and self-centred. Their company is not very enjoyable. The happiness of having a girlfriend comes more from being socially validated and getting sexual favours rather than being with her. At best approaching/interacting with women is a bad gamble. In addition, video games, movies, TV, anime and porn all offer immediate, risk-free, guaranteed enjoyment. Seen that way men are making a logical trade-off - cheap, risk-free fun or expensive, risky drudgery.
>>24816799
Fucking goat feel t b h
Roasties will NEVER know this feel
80% of women get fucked by 20% of men. The rest of the men are left with scraps or washed up 30+ year old """"ex"""""whores.
Look this
Women eat this shit up.
Statistically speaking, the odds of being killed because of rejection is insanely small
20% of women fuck 80% of men. this is prob more accurate lmao
>>24817191
lol
If women had the same standards for autism as men, all women would be classified autists. We just let womens complete social inadequacy go by because we want to fuck them.
after working around women all the time I can easily look them in the eye and do a decent job containing my spaghetti.
>>24816799
man I only ever bought like 4 packs of pokemon cards as a kid but I fuckin pulled a shining alakazam from one of them
best feeling of my entire life hands down
>>24816579
When women are more entertaining than porn and video games I'll be more interested in pursuing them. But I'd prefer to keep a hold of my hard earned money so it's unlikely even then that I'll consider them relationship material.
>>24817427
Women's social inadequacy manifests in a different way to men. It can't be characterised as autistic since that is the embodiment of maleness.
>>24816579
rape accusation
How about you fucking manlets stop bitching about height? You think if you were taller you'd be chad? I'm 6'4". My dick is not bigger just cause I am tall, in fact it's smaller than my manlet friends' as far as I can tell. I am skinny, but not a skeleton, bmi is easily within norm. I am of at least average intelligence, and capable of functioning socially, even being the life of a party - wheb drunk enough I can just walk into a bar and make acquaintance with everyone there. Face is 4-5/10. Balding has started but not very far gone. Somewhat out of shape for a lack of physical activity lately.
KHV. Never even held hands, never even had enough interest from a grill to text her without a clear reason, let alone have a date. Close to giving up all hope.
>>24816579
>False rape accusations
>Online shaming "lol check out this creepshot of a creeper who asked me out!" 5,000,000 reblogs
>female obesity
>slut epidemic
Hell, recently an Uber troll lost his job because he asked someone out on a date-- THE AUDACITY!
You gotta get lucky
>>24817427
>We just let womens complete social inadequacy go by because we want to fuck them.
This so much. Too many grown women cannot carry a reasonable conversation to be classed as normies but they get that pussy pass so everyone pretends otherwise.
>>24816666
devil's quads checked for savagery
>>24817535
>Hell, recently an Uber troll lost his job because he asked someone out on a date-- THE AUDACITY!
1) Dude was buttfucking ugly. He had no chance.
2) in you're JOB, you can't mingle with clients. You represent the company. She came to get a ride, not to be hit by shrek
>>24817682
Those aren't valid reasons to get the guy fired. A simple 'no' would have sufficed. But that wasn't enough for her and worse, she (and other women) have faggots defending her cruelty.
why bother? even if i get a gf shes already got another beta/chad lined up to replace me when she gets bored/whatever.
>>24816666
Women blown the fuck out
Roasties on suicide watch
>>24817727
Did she even expect him to hit on her? Were they flirting in the car? He should had ask her on a date on a non creepy way. He should ask her IN PERSON he was interested in her for a date.
>>24817749
this
dont even bother unless you want to be kekd/cheated on/replaced
>>24816579
How often do you see shit like this, or girls complaining about being approached by men. Or girls reacting to male interest with hostility. It sends the very clear message that girls don't want male attention, so why is it surprising that less men are approaching women.
>>24817682
>>24817810
>make it practically illegal to ask a woman out if you're not a chad
>"where have all the men gone!?!?!?!"
>>24817682
Yeah, he was ugly as shit, but that doesnt excuse what she did. A decent, normal human being would have dropped it. But she didnt, and this is why guys are avoiding nasty cunts.>>24817682
Yeah, he was ugly as shit, but that doesnt excuse what she did. A decent, normal human being would have dropped it. But she didnt, and this is why guys are avoiding nasty cunts.
I have a shit job and my current life situation isn't good.
there's no logical reason for me to pursue a gf.
Why don't women just ask men out?
>>24817825
Well obviously we don't want creeps like you approaching us, but why can't more hot guys like Chad take all the risk and do all the hard work in getting a relationship for me???
>>24817876
b-b-but thats the mans job!
>i want to remove/enforce gender roles only when it suits me :)
>>24817841
>make it practically illegal to ask a woman out if you're not a chad
Look...the guy is an ugly uber driver. Clearly he did little to no moves on her besides that text. Most likely he just gave his number to her and didn't expect him to hit on her. Make your intentions known from the start! AND DON'T USE UBER TO HIT ON CHICKS
>>24817916
I don't care, why did he deserve to be fired?
Oh right, because an ugly beta male DARED to speak to an attractive woman.
>>24816579
>afraid
No, I just stopped being a beta orbiter that thirsted any female attention as I aged from early teens and realized girls aren't worth the time. They're either entitled whores with no sense of discipline, or wrinkled/fat hags.
>>24817855
she doesn't know what he's capable of. What if she sees him again? What if he had to drive her again after the rejection? Im all against women thinking all men are potential rapists and killers, but who knows? He might be bitter and harm her. IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT HES A GUY, I don't trust Uber myself. Ive heard stories of crazy drivers attacking their clients. Even at night, ya gotta be safe.
>>24816579
because there's easier, cheaper and less dangerous alternatives to releasing sexual tension than actual women nowadays
>>24818010
I feel you homes. That's why I mace niggas whenever one of them passes me on the street. What if they try to rob me? Ya gotta be safe.
>>24816770
This tbqh senpai. So much media and mass communication thanks to the internet. Woman are only good for starting a family so no point in being with them until (if) I desire and can support a family.
For me this reveals the other fundamental problem that girls absolutely do not prepare at all for a marriage so why even bother. And I think most guys don't want to start a family so woman become worthless. They just fap and consume media all day
>>24818010
So you're going to fire a guy over an ASSUMPTION?
It's not even a thought crime, or correlation=causation bullshit, this is pure horseshit.
>>24816579
we had a HUGE thread 1-2 days ago about this.
bottomline: roasties suck so badly now that they are not worth approaching.
>>24816579
It's not who I am or in my nature to approach, not because I'm scared or intimidated but I just don't feel like starting a fake convo with some bimbo bitch to feed her ego.
>>24817825
>RPG NPC lines
if a bitch ever does this to me, I punch her square in the face
>>24817508
No thats just one Jew's ideas about it because he has it and doesn't want to seem womanly. It actually is way more feminine than it is masculine, but autists don't like that because they're mostly guys and they want to seem masculine.
Nice try feminine autist.
>>24816579
because pic related or did you expect men to be excited to date a slut who rode the cock carousel.
>>24817523
Stop bitching. You were born with genetic luck, stop whining about people who discuss that fact. You're more of a failure if you can't do what you where given extra help to do. Face it.
>>24818244
ALPHA FUCKS
BETA BUCKS
bloxbloxbloxlxox
>>24818010
>she doesn't know what he's capable of. What if she sees him again? What if he had to drive her again after the rejection?
Oh no how can we allow a womyn to be exposed to an AWKWARD SITUATION! The horror! Quick, dispose of this beta male!
>>24816579
Its because womens standards are getting higher and higher. You have to be tall, handsome, naturally extroverted, confident, dominant, have alot of girls into you, and "bee urself"
>>24818240
Women can't focus on shit like an autist can
>>24816579
Women only want the top 20% of Chads to hit on them.
An average looking man will get strung along and turned into betabucks or a kekold while she continues riding the cock carousel.
A below average man will get called a creeper, named and shamed over social media and could lose his job and what little respect people still have for him.
Women are simply a bad investment. There's easier, cheaper and safer ways to get your kicks besides women.
>sit in front seats of class
>one slutty-looking semi-cute girl and another cute girl near me
>slutty-looking one has two guys with her in the class of course
>probably expected me to approach them since I sit right next to them
>don't
>down the semester they openly discuss both of their slutscapades and encourage each for them
They probably both have 10 beta orbiters each too. Without fail. No validation for those whores. Fuck. That.
>>24818291
Pretty much. Getting a guy fired because you think he should only ask you out in a specific way that you want is full on psychosis, she should have been ridiculed for that batshit crazy reaction she had. Talk about avoidance behavior. What a crazy slut.
Pic related, its her after he asked her out.
>>24816666
Satan don't lie
>>24818363
The actual symptom is superficial obsession with minor details. That is actually what characterizes autism, not being good at something or focusing. They obsess about minor details that do not take the larger subject or problem into consideration.
They are also typically profoundly retarded, and have severe deficits in working memory. Like women.
>>24816579
>Why are more and more men seemingly afraid to approach women now?
Because most women today are incredibly anti social and just bury their heads in social media 24/7 thanks to smart phones. They will freak out if a guy she doesn't know randomly approaches her unless he's at least 6ft tall, fit, and handsome.
If you want to get a woman's attention you'll have to use social media and even then you're still competing with dozens of her orbiters.
>>24816579
Women are just worth less than ever before.
They can't leverage sex, since they throw it around freely, albeit only with Chad.
They could leverage sex with a desperate Beta provider willing to marry them after their slut years, but since divorce is incentivized for women they initiate over 70% of them, and more men are consciously aware of this and are backing away from marriage and family.
They complain about a mythical pay gap, but generally will NOT date or marry a man making less money than themselves.
We used to compete with each other as men in order to provide for a woman in the home. Now we compete with each other, as well as women, AND the Government which gives our taxed wages to women, but still with the same social expectation of providing for a woman ultimately. If we do not do this, we are not considered men. In this society, if you are a heterosexual man with no utility to any woman, sexual, financial or otherwise, you do not exist as anything other than a defective waste of space. An automaton made of flesh and blood that just kind of...exists.
Women have vagina quotas giving them unmerited favor in education, business and STEM, then women complain that there are less men in these areas than ever before, apparently not understanding that a natural consequence of throwing women into these areas en masse is that there will be far fewer men, as there are only so many seats in the classroom, and so many jobs to be had.
So much as approaching a woman in a bar or on campus can result in a claim of sexual assault and destroy a man's life and academic career.
Women have been handed all the traditionally masculine powers in society, but still retain their traditional feminine expectations and privileges. Ironically, the sexes were more equal before feminism than they are now.
This is what women wanted. For better or worse :^)
This arrangement will break before it bends.
Nowadays you have like a 1/4 chance that a woman is single, maybe less (even if she actually is, she might say she isn't because she's FWB with Chad). Also setting aside much higher standards for women, they are also much more judgmental so you can't make ANY mistakes or slip up and HAVE to make a perfect first impression or you'll get shot down badly and immediately.
The biggest problem imo however, is that nowadays women for whatever reason can also be really cruel about it, I think it has to do with that their self-value is held so high and yet their self-esteem is fragile, that if a lower scoring guy approaches them they actually get offended and maybe even hurt, and they react really hostile. They'll get angry, insult you for even thinking of approaching them, perhaps cause a scene even. The very worst thing about it though and the worst thing overall, is that they can and quite possibly will destroy you socially. Already women will gossip and spread rumors and with social network media, they can outright ruin you by saying you were a creeper and an asshole to everyone IRL and online, and unless the guy is a Chad he won't be able to salvage his social standing after that. So it's no longer an issue of JUST being rejected as if that wasn't hard enough, but you can actually seriously fuck yourself over (at least in relation to approaching other women and the dating scene, but also socially overall) now with the way things are, in terms of standards of the dating game and with things like online dating and Chad availability.
This is obviously not ALL women, but overtime the odds have gotten worse and worse to where now you honestly have to be pretty ballsy to risk it all for a modern gf, already something people are saying takes a lot of work and just isn't worth it. Basically the odds keep getting further stacked against non-Chad men, and the stakes keep getting higher. Everyone has a risk tolerance threshold, and more and more men are reaching that threshold.
I stopped approaching women because relationships aint all they are cracked up to be and the circumstantial conditions that they seem like they won't just outright be a prick to you for even trying to interact with them is fucking ridiculous and does not seem very feminine to me since at the surface level of the interaction it's not even civilized.
If I seem like a prick it's because I'm acting that way to push people away. Being alone is better than being with the wrong people.
>>24816579
>>24816666
>>24816898
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>>24817427
>>24817535
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>>24818941
feminism is the cause of this travesty.
Modern society is going down the drain due to this "movement".
Just date a tiny transgirl senpai.
>>24816579
because of jews
not even joking
>>24817825
>geez like so many guys hit on me its sooo annoying
I honestly don't think it's going to matter. I think many girls are going to have lots of sex in their 20s and when they approach 30 they'll lock onto somebody like you as a real providing partner.
And then people like you will happily take them, because you must admit that even though the idea of getting a used goods partygirl whore is pretty revolting, it would be even worse just to be alone forever.
I'm not afraid, I'm 6'2 and haven't really had an issue getting girls.
It's just not worth it. What do I have to gain?
They're probably people I wouldn't want to talk to and I don't want a gf.
The only girls I ever like talking to are genuinely weird dorky ones and you never see them outside anywhere.Maybe you do these days, I just stay in and play vidya these days.
>>24818546
This. They need their constant fountain of handheld validation.
>>24819568
>And then people like you will happily take them, because you must admit that even though the idea of getting a used goods partygirl whore is pretty revolting, it would be even worse just to be alone forever.
>that's what roasties honestly believe
>>24819568
>And then people like you will happily take them, because you must admit that even though the idea of getting a used goods partygirl whore is pretty revolting, it would be even worse just to be alone forever.
uh no, with the access to data we have today, you can easily see how divorces and non-married men numbers have skyrocketed, we are going to have A LOT of roasties getting old and lonely in about a decade
Because if the woman's not into it, you get instantly labeled a creep, stalker, rapist to everyone around you. This can even result in white knights literally picking a fight with you even if you immediately lay off.
WOMEN ARE DANGEROUS
STAY AWAY FROM THEM
LET THEM ROT IN THE HELL THEY CREATED.
>>24816579
>Why are more and more men seemingly afraid to approach women now?
because it's 2015, the idea of sex roles such as "the man should do the approaching" are archaic and outdated
>>24816579
Who are these people you're talking about?
If you find that less guys are making a move, it's because you're past your prime. A girl friend of mine complains about this all the time. She not all that bright, and even *she* figured it out quickly.
What's your excuse, OP?
>>24819568
>And then people like you will happily take them
nice one m8
>>24816579
Men are afraid to make the first move because men know if they fail they will be beat down.
That'll make you suicidal.
So will not trying. Theres no way out, and I can see suicide rates rising in the near future.
>>24819622
shit is getting bad you need to carry a camera or a sound recorder around women at all times just in case the lying bitch tries to pull a false rape. all women are potential false rape accusers.
>>24817427
>If women had the same standards for autism as men, all women would be classified autists
but we literally DO use the same standards for autism diagnoses
>>24816579
They don't want to be accused of rape.
>>24819751
the thing is that women don't get diagnosed as much in the first place because being autistic is much less of a hindrance in her life
other people will be willing to compensate for her autism because she's female, and you can just call it a "quirky personality"
>>24819568
>And then people like you will happily take them
This is my biggest fear. If these women end up old, used up and alone it will be glorious poetic justice. But if beta males bitch out and take them in then they'll have gotten away with treating us like trash.
I suppose there's some comfort in the fact that a lot of us are NEETing it up so there will be a sizable proportion that couldn't even act as providers if we wanted to.
>>24818240
>It actually is way more feminine than it is masculine
[citation needed]
>>24817855
>>24818010
He sent her a text message. The reason she blew it up is because women get mad if ugly guys ask them out because they think "How dare that ugly fuck think we're in the same league. By asking me out with that gross mug he is deliberately implying that I'm ugly too. Fuck him. Hey, other girls, look, please validate my looks by mocking this guy with me. How dare he." "Haha wow, what a creeper. I'm sorry that had to happen to you Stacy."
Because I go to community college and more and more of the "women" turn out to be trannies. I've so far run into 8 trannies. How the fuck does one community college have 8 trannies??!?
>>24819853
Idk, I've never even met a tranny.
>>24816579
>Improvement in social media allows females to find more males who fit there needs
>More and more guys are no longer wanted by local females
>Select few guys get a lot of attention
>Females they choose are happy, ones who the guys reject are left feeling alone
>They wonder why the guy they rejected for years now doesn't want to speak to them
>They move on to another guy
>Cycle repeats
Basically as technology allowed women to find better partners at longer distances, the less defined men become worthless. Leading to men not wasting the time and effort on females. Causing a cycle.
>>24816579
Because it's become acceptable for women to be bitches.
I seriously had a girl scream at me that I'm a coward in class because I wasn't willing to ask someone else for his textbook because she forgot hers.
Who do you think got the weird looks? I did.
That's just an example, but stuff like this has happened multiple times.
In ye olden times it was expected of women to behave like ladies. That's not the case anymore.
As a result, it becomes more and more likely that you'll get a very public very clear reaction if she says no, not to mention that a woman that doesn't behave womanly is also less appealing in general.
Not worth the effort and risk.
>>24819808
Never underestimate white knight c ucks.
I know a dude who dated a girl who fucked other men, drove him into debt, and insulted him all the time. She tried to fuck me in front of him and he let her do it. He just wanted a girl more than he wanted his self respect.
>>24819808
The thing about that is that people don't really pair off in that idyllic way where everybody takes their equal.
They'll pair off according to what's available. So instead of miss 8/10 roastie slut ending up being alone for having been a slut, she'll end up with betabux and the uglier and fatter girls will end up alone if there's a shortage of men out there.
It's not really anything like justice any way you spin it.
>>24816579
Because these days, when a man approaches a woman who isn't interested, she doesn't respectfully decline, but instead post her "story" on facebook for the whole world to laugh at. Women don't get to ridicule men for doing X and then demanding men do more of X. It's really simple, but obviously too hard for women's brains to understand.
Men have emotions too, and being ridiculed for approaching a woman is like saying "look you unworthy piece of shit, just fuck off already, you're a fucking joke and nobody takes you seriously". Is it really surprising that men don't want to feel that all the time? So if you keep making those funny facebook posts, publicly laughing about average men with your friends, you're not encouraging them to be confident and respectful people towards you.
Furthermore, the modern woman is more preoccupied with studying gender theory (or whatever fancy name they give for "useless marxist bullshit"), disfiguring her face with piercings and destroying her natural skin with tattoos. They dye their hair unnatural colors and cake their face with so much makeup that men can't see anything more than a mask for a superficial person. Instead of being loving and supportive mothers and wives, they decide to party it up in college, taking 50 different dicks in every whole, indebting themselves for $100,000 and expecting to land where they don't have to do real work.
But those reasons for men distancing themselves from you are conveniently ignored or dismissed. You refuse to see men's viewpoint and lash out at them for being logical, so why should we even try anymore? If you want to destroy yourselves, you're free to do so, but don't blame us for the consequences of your decisions.
>>24819922
>I wasn't willing to ask someone else for his textbook because she forgot hers.
I don't understand. Wasn't she able to ask that person herself?
>>24816579
>It seems that as the years go by, less guys are making the first move. And almost come off like they're devolving into misogyny and bitterness now.
Because I'm tired of shallow whores rejecting me for being 5'8. I've asked out over a hundred women and only two agreed to date me only to dump me a few weeks later for a taller man.
I felt myself going insane so I decided to give up on women.
Best decision of my life.
>9/10 gf
>im 7/10 at best
>shes getting a masters degree in counseling
>super nice
>super pretty
>was a virgin before me
>all i did was ask for her number first time i met her
that's really all there is to it... and dont be a little cock sucker
>>24820000
Yes. She's just chronically unwilling to take care of herself.
>>24819808
This won't happen, anon. VR-waifus will cause a paradigm-shift in the dating market during the next decade. Feminists are already scrambling to ban them in the name of equality and other nonsense. Of course this won't work, the potential market is far to vast for them to put a stop to it. Most roasties will actually get what they deserve.
>>24816579
For me, it's not so much that I'm afraid as it is that there is ton's of porn on the internet with hotter girls doing way kinkier things than I could ever hope to persuade one to do with me.
It's just easier to fap. Why would I want to put all the effort into getting the real thing?
I'm 23 and I think I'm starting to get indifferent to women. I noticed how I rarely look at girl's breasts or shapes anymore, a few years ago I was obsessed with that shit, but for a while now all this obsession juice is going away it seems. I fap maybe 1 or 2 times a week now, before that it was much more.
>Manlet approaches 1000 women over the course of 4-5 years
>Rejected each time, yet isn't discouraged
>Recounts his situation on reddit on a sub for sympathy and advice
>Gets brigaded to the point of being banned for being "a desperate creep"
https://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/3n7zqs/as_of_today_i_have_been_rejected_1000_times/?sort=top
Top comments:
>desperation is a stinky cologne, and people can't smell their own
>Nobody wants to date the guy that asks a girl out almost every single day for three years!
>Dude you're a creep. Learn how to make people feel comfortable around you (ladies and gentlemen) and then you might have a chance to connect with someone before your creepy vibe sends them running for the hills. Relationships are built one step at a time, and if you try to run toward the top of the stairwell without doing the lower ones first it's no longer a step, but a wall you're running into.
>A girlfriend isn't something you "get." Love is not something you find. You can't go looking for these things like you're going to a grocery store. These are events. These are things that happen over the course of time.
>Female here. Based on what you've said I would steer clear of you if I knew you and was single. Desperation is really unattractive.
>>24819988
5 star post senpai.
>>24820116
And you're probably also out of shape. Way to let your testosterone decline.
>>24819840
>He sent her a text message. The reason she blew it up is because women get mad if ugly guys ask them out
This 1000x times
When I saw what she tweeted I was half tempted to try a social experiment by replacing the ugly dude's avatar with chad's avatar and repost it, just to see how much differently people would react to it.
The whole thing pisses me off so much because the guy literally did the lowest-stakes, lowest-inconvenience, approach of all time. It's not like he propositioned her when she was locked in a car going at speed. He sent a FUCKING TEXT, a pretty flattering and moderately amusing one at that. And he got fucking demonised for it.
This is the reason why men are afraid of approaching women these days. Because you don't just get rejected any more. You get bullied, berated, publicly humiliated, and you can lose your job or worse. And that's if you're lucky.
rape accusation culture, stratification of sexual activity (i.e. chad fucks half the girls in your graduating class and betas get nothing)
>>24820071
why are here you hit the jackpot. a woman who really likes you is fucking rare considering they pretty much hate all of us
>>24820338
>rape accusation culture
if you actually believe this shit, you probably got a concussion from tipping your fedora too hard
>>24820407
>if you actually believe this shit, you probably got a concussion from tipping your fedora too hard
what does this mean? are you just trying to say you disagree with the concept?
>>24818148
>1-2 days ago about this.
we have threads about this every fucking day
multiple, even
>>24818498
You're confusing autism with OCD.
Autism is about the inability to read or understand social cues and other shit that I won't care to detail
>>24819726
Maybe just kill her. At this point prison seems like a better place than the outside world.
>>24816579
it's the fault of whores.
almost every woman these days thinks she can have her cake and eat it too, be a whore when she's in her prime and then settle down when she's ready, men don't like this for obvious reasons.
no man wants the mother of his children to be a whore, retired or not.
>>24820440
she's just being irrational like every woman and trying to use memes because logic is a foreign concept to her mind
>>24817825
What most guys fail to understand, or are unable to, is that the majority of women are unfettered when it comes to satisfying their ego or seeking validation. When a woman is used to simply being praised or wanted for simply being, the base amount of attention they get isn't appreciated at all.
When a woman says "I'm so lonely... I wish I had a boyfriend," she doesn't ponder the men that already shower her with attention, her family that readily gives support, or even her friends that sympathize with her as things that contradict her feelings. She is simply looking for a specific kind of validation and will not accept any other kind. To get it, she will not really care whose feelings she hurts or what shameful acts she might do because she's convinced that this validation will truly make her happy... Oftentimes, it doesn't.
>>24820288
Ostracism causes a PHYSICAL pain response.
Women are propagandized to war over the threat of being ostracized (i.e. imagining being with a low value male).
Everybody knows that women have always been the primary victims of war. Even when they are ones specifically imposing the violence.
This is why the war will never end, women love war (on humanity) because they are awarded privileges and benefits by the law merchant for removing overhead.
Women don't just hate man, they hate little boys as well.
Little girls are socialized in a prison culture of hate to obediently learn the proper socialized methods of institutionalized misandry.
Our shiksa peers are ostensibly the most advanced eugenics project around for breeding the more convenient male.
> Why are more and more men seemingly afraid to approach women now?
- Men are now raised to be pussies
- Men get rejected more harshly than before
- Feminism etc. says that approaching or hitting on a girl is evil and wrong
- Porn, depression, low self-esteem etc. make it less appealing to men
>>24821647
>Women don't just hate man, they hate little boys as well.
this is true. i read a study just the other day that shows female teachers will mark exams lower when they know it was taken by a boy.
when they mark exams with no names on them, they mark them fairly. when they mark exams with names on them, they mark the exams taken by boys lower than the ones taken by girls.
male teachers don't do this to girls (or boys). but female teachers do it boys.
for whatever reason, women genuinely do hate boys and men.
this thread... holy shit, this is like the worst sjw shit with mirrored genders
>>24816579
>Why are more and more men seemingly afraid to approach women now?
Where the fuck do you live? It's illegal to approach women here.
>>24821882
>It's illegal to approach women here.
where i am it's just discouraged, it's not illegal yet.
>>24821822
except we're actually using rational thinking, facts and logic to present our point
>>24821246
Off-topic but what even is the guy in your pic supposed to be doing that's weird?
>>24817825
THIS THIS THIS
>"Stop catcalling! It's mysoginist!"
>"Eww this guy who approached me tried to flirt with me! Can't men just leave me alone? I'm not here for your attention!"
>"A man just tried to touch me! SEXUAL ASSAULT!"
and then they wonder why men are too shy or hesitant to approach women
>>24822012
he exists in the presence of the female
>>24822012
Nothing, she just wants attention from her online orbiters.
>Why are more and more men seemingly afraid to approach women now?
Feminists got their cake and now they're choking on it.
>>24817876
>45 year old milf posts teasing pictures on reddit and asks to be rated
>One guy asks how she would like to be approached
>Betas get salty when she admits that a man has to do all the work.
>>24822019
What do you think of a girl who enjoys catcalling? She's a slut, right?
>>24817899
>Well obviously we don't want creeps like you approaching us, but why can't more hot guys like Chad take all the risk and do all the hard work in getting a relationship for me???
because in your demonization of unattractive men you are also shaming attractive men who are awkward, as well as attractive men who just happen to have low self esteem, and attractive men who just think they are doing the right thing by not approaching women when they say they don't want to be approached.
the remaining men, the chads who have high enough self esteem and know they should ignore it when women say they don't want to be approached, well there are only a few of them, and they have an awful lot of pussy to choose from. what makes you think you're so special that they're going to choose yours?
>>24822143
that sire is a loaded question
Because feminism. There is no point in approaching a woman if you'll either be rejected or trapped in a relationship in which you're forced to conform to insanely odd or humiliating standards in order to be "adequate" for them to date. dating is a lose/lose situation for guys. Love is stupid, fellow robots. Don't fall into the same trap your parents did, and your grandparents before them did, and get married. Don't waste your life on someone else. Make yourself happy, and pursue other ventures. There is no point to dating.
>>24822143
why the fuck would i think that? if some random girl across the street complimented my looks i'd be ecstatic
there's a difference of course between "you're very pretty" and "ayyy baby let me fuck dat ass!"
>>24822143
i genuinely admire women who can handle catcalls without bitching about it or claiming it's harassment.
bonus points if she's funny about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35KqGNa1FGA
>>24822172
Leading, yes. Loaded, not so sure.
>>24822178
And which one is catcalling? Seems like the latter.
I'm On holiday right now, big normie party place, all my friends will hit up the clubs,I tag along because there's nothing better to do but chicks are so stuck up man, they're egos are inflated as fuck family
>>24822143
It depends on the circumstances.
>>24822231
>handle
Implies that it's something to be endured. I said enjoyed. And if you think it's something to handle, wouldn't you won't there to be no catcalls?
>>24822262
same answer, admiration.
>>24822176
Lexi Belle is a coal burning slut. However she was enjoyable to watch in the few brazzers lesbian vids she's been in. Still kind of mad they took down that one video that was insanely hot; it involved lexi being rape sleeped by her step mom, waking up acting all "oh I'm not into this", and after awhile giving into the pleasure and enjoying it immensely.
For some, It's literally easier to get into one of the most prestigious schools in the world than have an intimate connection with someone of the opposite sex
>>24822321
If it's sexual, it seems like she's a slut. Why would admire a guy that was okay with that from strange men? Wouldn't you think, I would never go out with this girl?
>>24822378
>19% said they'd engaged with 10 or more sexual partners while at Harvard
Fuck this shit I'm done, it's literally always 80-20. I really wanted it to just be a stupid meme but I guess I don't get to have a happy relationship because I'm in that 4/5, I'll just have to settle for dangling money in front of whores slamming into the wall like a pair of boo boo keys if I want a girl to like me.
>>24822402
>If it's sexual, it seems like she's a slut
not really. it's nothing more than validation of sexual attractiveness. being able to take a catcall as a compliment is a far more positive and healthy response than fear is.
i absolutely wouldn't judge a woman who admitted to enjoying catcalls.
>Wouldn't you think, I would never go out with this girl?
no, in fact i'd be more likely to avoid the feminist woman who fears and sees catcalls as some horrific example of female oppression than the confident woman who can see them as the compliments they are.
>>24820116
Holy shit, are you me?
Got 23 like a month ago. Literally stopped fapping daily since then. No interest in getting sex anymore. Not even planned. It just happened.
>>24822432
Just don't date anon. There's no point. Whats the purpose of having a girl that loves you if by entering into a relationship you limit what you can do? Relationships are absolutely pointless. Exchanging your freedom for sex, that's pretty much all they are. I'm a fucking biglaw firm associate, I make $200,000 a year, I look decent, i'm not fat, I'm not autistic and can hold my own in conversations, but I'm still a 28 year old virgin. i'll always be a virgin. No girl will ever talk to me, just because I'm not in that top 20% of chads. Fuck women. Do what YOU want, not what society and feminists expect you to do.
>>24822562
if we went out, in a hypothetical situation, to hang out, would you buy me a beer?
Problem is: Women want to be like men but without geving up their privileges and advantages.
Men are supposed to act like men when they are grown up but they are treated as girls in early education so they don't fit or know their role.
>>24821910
>putting staring and small talk in the same category as masturbating on a train
>>24822489
I think if she would take a catcall, she would take a dick too. I'm sure she would be the type of bitch to be upset for saying something sexual about her too but not caring about some other guy. Even if she liked you, she would not want you to treat her that way. And that makes me mad.
>>24821792
No joke i lost a scholarship because of that. One of my female teachers fucking hated me and took whatever excuse she could to knock down by grade and fuck over my GPA. It was fucking blatant and bad even other students took notice but the faculty just shrugged and said its her last year here.
I was a white boy so my options were obviously pretty goddamn grim even without my GPA getting nuked. It ended up fucking me over for years and I still haven't recovered from it.
>>24822562
Nigger you stupid? Money can get you anything.
1. Regularly fuck escorts
2. Start doing steroids, blast and cruise
3. Lift and get low bodyfat (drugs for that too, or liposuction would help)
4. Buy nice clothes
5. Hire a bunch of dating and social coaches
Fuck. Want to hire me as your life/dating coach?
>>24822613
Sure, why not? Acts of good will and charity are completely different from what I described in my post. An act of charity is carried out in good faith to help someone in need, or in this case, I'd be buying something for a friend without expecting anything in return. Love, however, is characterised by mutual respect and sacrifice (though like I said, in the real world it doesn't work that way. Love is abuse.) I wouldn't be devoting myself to you, submitting to your will in any way, shape or form. So yes, I would.
>>24822767
Here's the thing though. I shouldn't need to do all of that to get a woman interested in me if I'm not a disgusting autist who looks appauling and needs someone to tell him how to order at mcdonalds without having a panic attack. I'm a normal human being. And just like any other normal person, it shouldn't be hard for me to find someone with mutual interests at the very least. That's how its been though. That is the problem I was addressing. I don't dress flashy or announce everywhere I go "HEY IVE GOT MONEY" because that wouldn't get me any true friends, only parasites who want to feed off of me. That's not what I want.
>>24822861
That's because you're in your 20s, when men who are below 8/10 have literally 0 sexual market value and women are at their peak.
>>24822887
>when men who are below 8/10 have literally 0 sexual market
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>>24822887
That's exactly what I was saying in the first post. There is no hope for the bottom 80% of men regardless of what they have.
>>24816579
Because women are dangerous. They can ruin your social status, your life, everything if they just want to. And trust me, they want to.
I'm not risking all that so that I can ask a girl out. The ammount of trouble that you have to go through nowadays isn't worth the pussy. The equation is uneven.
The man invests all his resources and goes through pain just so that the woman can receive, receive and receive.
Girls are raised to be selfish freeloading whores and after their charms fade away they have to give up being selfish and freeloading, so they just end up as whores.
/thread and fuck off.
>>24822562
>Relationships are absolutely pointless. Exchanging your freedom for sex
>but I'm still a 28 year old virgin
The freedom to shitpost on r9k ayy lmao
>>24822887
>men who are below 8/10 have literally 0 sexual market
That just is patently false. I'm an average looking to below average looking guy and still manage to get numbers and go on dates when the mood strikes.
>>24823083
Normie detected. Please go and kill yourself.
What if, like, no one has any real idea about how the majority of men have acted towards women over years because none of us live longer than a century to witness it? Let's be real, only recently have people even become literate. That's billions of human lives that have come and gone without any documentation. This is even worsened by the fact there's hundreds of different cultures and ways of life out there.
What if your over generalization is just you pushing an agenda, and has no real analysis beyond some bullshit personal anecdote? I think this is all just an ego stroke and you believing the whole world is like the world you live in. It's not true at all. It's a much bigger, diverse, and unknowable place than you think.
But no. Go on and tell me how you know how the majority of men act certain points of time and what this means about this all. You sure seem to be on to something. No one ever has explored these realms of thoughts before. Hell, you might even get published! Good for you. You're so smart OP.
>>24823175
see see >>24823184
lol what are u scared of?
worst thing that can happen is she says no!
>>24823275
>Implying I'm normie
The truth is women respond to a lot more than looks. Personality is a huge part of it.
>>24819988
Do you know where to find the PDF of his paper? Can't find it
>>24823385
>personality
Fuck I wish people would just stop with this meme, it's tired, stale and so blatantly false.
>>24823426
>Implying it's a meme
You're only hurting your self by fighting it.
>>24823385
>I still manage to get numbers and go on dates
>I'm not a normie
pick one, normiescum
>>24823399
It's clearly a fake quote. Mobius was a mathematician. Also the birth and death dates are completely off. It's just the usual "hey look some smart guy agrees with me. I must be right!" shit.
>>24816579
Depends on the people you meet. You are speaking from personal experiences, not statistics or facts.
>>24823480
It's called swinging between periods of insanely high confidence and periods of crushing depression.
A normie would just be confident all the time.
>>24823560
>I fuck girls every day and can communicate properly
>but I feel a little bit sad sometimes so I'm a robot like you guys!
this is just like those pseudo forever alone women
you're either a robot or a normie, there's no "but"
>>24816579
>misogyny and bitterness
>Is that what were calling it now, when men realize that women are just hypergamous whores that use us for material resources
>Only three stats you need to know as a man when deciding if to ever get married
>50+% Divorce Rate
>Women initiate 70+% Of Divorces
>Men Pay 95% Of Alimony
>Bonus Round
>60 percent of second marriages end in divorce.
>73 percent of third marriages end in divorce.
>The more times you try to make a marriage successful the quicker it fails (because you know you're just lying to yourself)
Due to movements like feminism men understand the true nature of women now, so you only have yourself to blame women.
>>24816579
let me put it simply to you women who are here, and to normie fucks who literally get themselves into the same scenarios that robots do yet they are too stupid to figure it out and still think women are all different.
Approach woman
>get accused of rape
Approach woman
>slut has such high standards she won't settle for anything other than 10/10 with a Ferrari and a Castle
Approach woman
>Ok take me on a date and pay for everything XD
Approach woman
>Ok sure I need some emotional support after my break up with chad, let me use you as a emotional cum rag until I can leech off the next Chad i fall in love with
Mass Media and Cultural Engineering has made women a weapon, a very predictable weapon that can be marginalized and well understood once you know how the game works.
Just pay for a escort, its literally the same thing as a GF except much cheaper and she won't falsely accuse you of rape/divorce you and take all your shit.
I don't know about the rest of the male population, but I'm too busy enjoying my own autistic hobbies like gardening and playing/programming vidya and discussing my autistic hobbies with other autists.
>>24821822
You know, people have been making the
>/r9k/ is just tumblr for males
>robots are just the male version of SJWs
But people make this point without drawing the most important and obvious conclusion.
See, you admit that there's insane beliefs on this board, but imagine if these absolutely ridiculous beliefs and ideals were actually used actively in guiding policies and and legislation in the real world.
Imagine a law that outlawed women talking to chad, or something like that. It would be insane, right? But what is happening right now is just that. We're seeing that level of insanity being pushed into the mainstream, forced onto us since we were kids, and now actively shaping the laws.
So yeah, it is pretty insane. That's exactly the point.
>>24819937
I'm madly in love with this girl. She's really great, smart, funny, 8/10. But there is something about her that just tells me she is a slut or at least has been in the past.
I've never seen her go home with a guy, but just the way she acts, how she talks to me, how she talks to other guys, implications other people make when talking about her, you just know that she's been around quite a lot.
But I just can't help it, she's my oneitis. Am I promoting the problem?
>>24823632
>Only 2 types of people exist
You keep telling your self that.
>>24817400
Sommmeeeee reeaaal bullshit over here
>>24823896
there's no half-normie you tard
also nice strawman
>>24823651
The odds aren't so bad mate.
>>24823801
Yes you are contributing to the problem.
You are putting her on a pedestal but your true instincts are telling you the truth.
Stop giving a shit about her so much and starting treating her like fuck meat and you will see her true colors.
>>24817191
this desu senpai; i just bottle all my feelings up until they explode in an alcohol/drug fueled rage or eventually i guess i'll just die and my feelings will go the grave with me
>>24823801
Yeah you're overthinking that aspect of her and building a whole new personna around her. Don't guess. Just take solid cues from what is really going on. Don't overthink and get on with it. Act and do something about it. Make a plan.
>>24816579
I am not noticing these things.
I am stripper and there are always many men the come.
>>24823799
This
It's the same with "le /pol/ is just tumblr for racists and stormfags! XD" meme
The views spouted by tumblr - however retarded - are the views of mainstream academia, and most Western governments, taken to an absolutely insane extreme.
You can get a degree in Gender Studies, but you can't get a degree in Misogyny
>>24823952
But I just can't help it, she's just too perfect in every other way.
Also, I don't know for a fact that she's a slut. Maybe being on /r9k/ too much has fucked up my views of women.
>>24823985
What do you mean by "make a plan"?
Should I not think about her possibly being a slut and just treat her like she's a true pure waifu until I find out the truth?
>>24819568
>And then people like you will happily take them, because you must admit that even though the idea of getting a used goods partygirl whore is pretty revolting, it would be even worse just to be alone forever.
I'll probably be used to it by then. And even if I'm not, I'll probably be bitter and would rather make myself miserable if there's the chance it'll make someone else unhappy.
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>women paradoxically consider 3/4 of men to be below average
>women push for higher salaries but won't date men that make less than them
>women wait until their looks have deteriorated before trying to get married
>women consider their traditional role to be oppression but expect a man to fully fulfill his traditional role
>no fault divorce
>discriminatory divorce and custody court system
Roasties gonna roast.
>>24822231
this shit is fake
>>24816579
That's what equality means. Men and women are behaving more and more similarly. Isn't this what you women wanted? You wanted men and women to be equal right? So why the fuck would you complain when men no longer act like men?
>>24824344
What a fag, 10 years since he got his wizard powers and instead of mastering the elements he's crying about not getting any pussy. No respect.
>>24818010
>she doesn't know what he's capable of. What if she sees him again
Then it's probably a real bad thing she got him fired?
Like, where's the logic in thinking this will piss him off LESS than just saying no?
>>24823799
>/r9k/ is just tumblr for males
It's true. But, you males definitely have more reason to feel persecuted.
>>24824344
I've looked through all his comments awhile back. He hates MRA and Redpill. He calls himself a male feminists and fights for the rights of women 24/7.
>>24822861
>only parasites who want to feed off of me. That's not what I want.
Then you don't want a woman friend ;)
>>24823936
The odds are shit, did you even read?, after each consecutive marriage, people get divorced more, I can only assume this is a sad attempt at trolling.
>>24818010
YEAH, YEAAAH! KILL ALL MEN, KILL ALL MEN, KILL ALL MEN, KILL ALL MEN KILL ALL MEN KILL ALL MEN KILL ALL MEN KILL ALL MEN THEY COULD BE RAPISTS AND MURDERES
ESPSCIALLY THE UGLYFCKSERSSDF
KEP CHAD
>>24824770
I'm not trolling. The chance of losing everything in your first marriage is still just over 1/3. Those are not bad odds.
>>24824706
i've looked into this guy too and came to the conclusion that either he's a troll or he's seriously mentally ill
i mean listen to this shit:
>I don't know what to do about this problem. I was walking by a college campus once and there was a table with a couple feminists. They were trying to raise awareness about online harassment by giving out flyers and brownies. A self identified MRA went up to the table, knocked it over, and threw the brownies in her face. He threatened to assault her if she ever came back. Real sad to see this kind of thing. I have so much respect for feminist women for the things they do. I heard that the women tried to come back the next day and he really did return and attack them. One of them was hospitalized.
>I beat up the violent one. There was a feminist raising awareness about online harassment and she got assaulted so I stepped in. He kept telling me about how "hypermasculine" he was, but when it came down to it, he was a big baby. She gave me some of the baked goods for rescuing her ;)
the biggest red flag for him being a troll was this comment in his 40-year-old virgin post:
>You're right. I might not be having any sex but at least I know that I'm doing my part to make the world a better place. The important thing is that I'm being a good person by refusing to make women feel unnecessarily uncomfortable or pressured into doing anything she might not want to do. The problem here is masculinity. If men were not pressured to approach women like creeps then men like us wouldn't have to be so obligated to make sure women feel extra safe. Women just would be safe. What I'm going through might be difficult, but things women go through under patriarchy such as the fear of being catcalled are much worse. Plus, many of them don't want to be called a "slut." This is why I need feminism.
>but things women go through under patriarchy such as the fear of being catcalled are much worse
>fear of being catcalled are much worse
wtf
>>24824858
I think this isn't a troll, he's just a textbook beta kek, to put it into words with buzzwords.
Men this pathetic actually exist. And they call themselves feminists.
>>24824858
>>You're right. I might not be having any sex but at least I know that I'm doing my part to make the world a better place. The important thing is that I'm being a good person by refusing to make women feel unnecessarily uncomfortable or pressured into doing anything she might not want to do. The problem here is masculinity. If men were not pressured to approach women like creeps then men like us wouldn't have to be so obligated to make sure women feel extra safe. Women just would be safe. What I'm going through might be difficult, but things women go through under patriarchy such as the fear of being catcalled are much worse. Plus, many of them don't want to be called a "slut." This is why I need feminism.
That's actually a pretty cool thing to do. I wish more guys would take the hint and give up.
>>24824851
>The chance of losing everything in your first marriage is still just over 1/3.
Those are what you call nice odds, if there was 1/3 chance of you dying for posting on 4chan would you do it?
>>24824521
no shit it's fake, it says so in the description
>>24824858
>>24824941
Nobody can be that far gone. Maybe he started off as a troll and he was so deep undercover he bought his own trolling.
>>24824943
>That's actually a pretty cool thing to do. I wish more guys would take the hint and give up.
why?
>>24824858
I doubt it, the people at thebluepill are taking him seriously
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/3vvdwq/oh_look_you_guys_red_pill_has_an_entire_thread/
My Favorite:
>Sorry to hear you haven't met the right one yet, but the majority of people go through a phase in life where they're searching. It's not something uniquely wrong about you or what you're doing in life... so hang in there. Work on loving yourself and being positive. (After all, if you can't love yourself, how can you ask anyone else to?)
>>24824858
ahahahaha
how pathetic do you have to be to make up stories about white knighting feminists on the internet
>>24824957
Those odds are still less than the odds that you catch cancer and die from it. I don't see you hitting the gym, cleaning up your diet and taking care of your body. Life is full of risks. Those are good odds.
>>24816701
Tried more than a couple of times ended terribly like sitting down at a strangers dinner table and engaging in Congo
I didn't charm shit and it was just awkward for 15 mins
>>24816666
WITNESSED HELL
>>24824372
I'm with you on everything except no-fault divorce.
Thinking people should be legally trapped together is utterly retarded.
>>24816799
>HURR DURR MEN HAVE BETTER INTERESTS THAN WOMEN LOOK AT ME COLLECTING POKEMON CARDS SO MUCH BETTER
kill yourself Yu-Gi-Oh was better in every way
>>24825059
>Those odds are still less than the odds that you catch cancer and die from it.
No it really isn't, I don't drink or smoke, don't do any drugs
>I don't see you hitting the gym, cleaning up your diet and taking care of your body. Life is full of risks.
Dude, you don't see me doing anything quite obviously kek, I don't know you. I'm not overweight and I walk often, you don't need to diet unless you're extremely overweight (you are assuming a heck of alot here, like you're imagining some obese fuck when reading my messages kek, I'm black btw just to show you how much assumptions you made, bet you thought I was white)
>Those are good odds.
Keep telling yourself that, have at it, you're one of those guys that only accept reality after the divorce and you're on the edge of suicide, point is despite the odds, if you do a simple cost benefit analysis the risk outweighs the gains, men today don't even get to marry virgins like our forefathers, we have to settle for used up whores with gaping holes (its ridiculous).
>>24817322
>They think all guys approaching themare going to KILL them
Idk with all the rape and pedophilia that gets talked about on this website, as well as the "women are so weak i could fucking kill them with my bare hands" idk why I would be safe knowing these are the same people I sit next to on the train y'know what im sayin?
I'm just a small kid and I've nearly been pushed onto train tracks cuz nobody can fucking see me, if a man every decided to push me around I'd be fighting for survival right then and there.
>>24825003
Guys should just accept that 95% of them will never have love. Will prevent a lot of embarrassment for them (like the 500 guy in a pic above), and save a lot of trauma for women.
Go your path, and leave normal people alone, kinda. No one cares, so do your own thing. This is sounding meaner than I meant, but I think you understand.
>>24825222
>I'm with you on everything except no-fault divorce.
remember that ever since no-fault divorce, 75% of all divorces are now initiated by women. women stand to gain the most out of a divorce, with 97% of all alimony coming from men. modern marriage is basically just an opportunity for women to claim the future earnings of a man and no-fault divorce is the reason they can see it as such.
it's probably the single greatest contributing factor to the declining marriage rates, with men having basically zero reason to get married any more.
actually having to find grounds for divorce would make people take marriage more seriously once again.
>Thinking people should be legally trapped together is utterly retarded.
"legally trapped" would mean nothing really, other than she can't take your money if you didn't do anything wrong. you can still get a divorce on the grounds of irreconcilable differences, and marital fault should absolutely be a factor when considering alimony. right now your wife can cheat on you, divorce you, and you still have to pay her alimony.
now THAT is what i would call "legally trapped".
>>24816817
This is a simplified but true statement
>>24825375
Meh. I'm not even white. It's you guys who are getting wiped out anyway.
>>24825573
>It's you guys who are getting wiped out anyway
I don't even know what you're talking about kek
I've been treated very poorly by women.The story r9k spins fits what I've seen
>>24825482
>Guys should just accept that 95% of them will never have love.
that's demonstrably untrue, but i'm interested in hearing what you feel the role of the remaining 5% of guys is.
do they love 5% of women, leaving 90% of women and 90% of men alone?
or does each remaining man take 20 partners simultaneously? or do you do serial monogamy where each women gets one of the men for 2 years then spends the rest of her life alone?
what does your utopia look like?
Because women hate me and I hate myself.
>>24822562
>is bitter virgin
>pretends it is his choice not to date
k
>>24825654
Not them but I reckon she dreams of a future filled with strong, stunning and brave single mums raising Chads' kids on tax money taken from the 95 percent of men who get nothing out of life.
>>24823920
Not the same guy, but you literally gave that false dichotomy exactly, then tried to accuse him of making a strawman. Fucking retarded.
>>24825654
Not him, but I think he means 95% of men will be settled for, ie, not actually loved by their partner. Personally I think that number is more like 80% but whatever.
>>24825654
>what does your utopia look like?
Ideally? Someone for everyone. I hate seeing this place and that site that's the female version (if it's still around).
I'm just dealing in realities, though, and that works just like now, except where there's a handful of Chads at a club and a hundred untouchables pawing futilely at the girls, there's just a handful of Chads.
Just like now, they're the only ones actually going home with someone. There's just less harassment and hurt feelings all around. No desperate guys getting their souls crushed, no women fending off creeps.
The guys here can go do whatever makes them happy. The women that don't go home with a Chad will have a chance another night, or they can decide to go do their own things alone...let's face it, not every one of them will make the cut, so they'll enjoy their brief prime, then move on...just like now, only without the whole "I'll settle" thing (on both sides) afterwards.
>>24826041
so how do you respond to studies like "The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness" (http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969) that more or less demonstrate that women were happier back when 90% of people of got married, and are miserable in the current hook-up culture where they are all fighting over a handful of chads?
>>24825654
polyamorism is inevitable at this point
so it's going to be a superchad with a harem of like 20-30 girls that also fuck each other
>>24817916
>look
no, YOU look, if you're a faggot normie piece of dogshit, fucking end yourself.
I can pay to just fuck escorts, and they're cheaper and friendlier.
>>24826303
Every escort I've ever seen has pretty much treated me like a piece of shit, and this is still true.
>>24826149
>are miserable in the current hook-up culture where they are all fighting over a handful of chads
They need to stop fighting each other and just be happy sharing Chad with other women, then female happiness will skyrocket because it will be how nature intended.
Literally all I want in my life age 30 and onward is to settle down with a virgin woman, raise a family, and be content with average middle class life.
Reading shit like this makes me want to die.
>>24826361
Females aren't bears that raise their cubs on their own. It is generally accepted that two parent families produce much more successful and healthier offspring.
>>24826361
but female happiness declines sharply after their 20s, when chad isn't interested in them any more and they don't have a husband.
>>24826426
If you can't be emotionally stable on your own what makes you think you have what it takes to raise a family?
>>24817400
this fucking dude in the purple makes me wanna smash his face in, holy shit, what a self-sabotaging retard.
>>24826471
i hate that argument.
>if you can't be happy when you're lonely and miserable, what makes you can be happy when you're in a loving relationship?
>>24826431
Yes, and it's generally accepted that Chads don't do that shit.
Do you want to be the beta "I'm her real father in all the ways that count" surrogate that she settles for, though? The guy she won't have sex with because "my trainer at the gym says my uterus is tipped, so I can't have sex with you...ever."
Nope. We're going to have to sacrifice something, and it is the notion of fatherhood. Single mothers do good enough.
Before long, people will decide parenting is too important to leave to parents anyhow (and such a drain on time), so all that will be done by the state.
>>24826426
And behind the "virgin woman" is "I want a woman with a degree in STEM that has a job that pays six figures, is not just skinny but has an hourglass figure and sizeable tits and ass, knows how to suck dick, and wouldn't leave me if I cheated on her. Also she must be white, aryan or anglo saxan"
Unofrtunately my man, 99% of all attractive women are not virgins because of all the men who go after them. The 1% is in an arranged marriage, extremely religious or has something wrong with them.
>>24826471
>love yourself first meme
fuck you and you b urself tier advice
>>24826561
If you hate that argument then you hate yourself. A few days ago a police officer near me had two kids and his wife dumped him, he spent all day drinking then crashed his car into a tree. having a family wont make you happier. You need to get your shit together before you take on responsibilities.
>>24826561
this.
that argument is stupid as shit and reeks of normies. there is no guarantee whatsoever that things will turn out fine in any way.
>>24817825
I chuckled at this one. Although "I heard about you and your honeyed words" could be taken as invitation.
>>24826561
>>24826639
Butthurt is worse when it's true, huh?
Really, man...you feel shitty and self-loathing by yourself, it's going to be worse when you're with someone else.
Trust me, I have the alimony payments to prove it.
>>24826664
lol what a faggot retard you are
>wife fucks up badly
>you don't even blame her in your post
>instead you go "hurr y didn he man up" as if that even matters in such a crazy situation
pls end yourself
>>24816579
Because we all know how high women set the bar. They compare you to all the seemingly perfect males that exist out there and that they fantasize about. In their mind, you will always be a worthless shitbag if you're either not 9/10 looks or a millionaire or a doctor or some shit.
